TWF (unofficial) rally choice poll

Hopefully we get a gigantic lean one way to make this easy and we can get rates as fast as possible. If you have another option, please voice it. Click here (http://www.twowheelforum.com/showthread.php?p=195801)for new poll to determine month of event. edit: fixed jeeps error when he added that link to my post.

:lol: not everyone vote at once

10:30-12:00 is always a slow time on TWF... wait until lunch and tonights crew that surfs from 10pm to 1am.

Lunch time and around 8-9pm are our busiest times.

I voted For Maggie of course. There is lots of places to go and close to Gatlinburg, Pigeonforge and Townsend. The list of possible destinations would take way more that a week or two just to see the sites other than the obvious Dragon.

Yep, I'm more interested in the local roads than the dragon.. I'm not much into traffic... Although I gotta find me that loop de loop :D

Lunch time and around 8-9pm are our busiest times. I don't know, when I log on in the morning :readng: , I see alot of posts from 1-2AM :willy: I need my beautly sleep though :yaewn:

I voted For Maggie of course. There is lots of places to go and close to Gatlinburg, Pigeonforge and Townsend. The list of possible destinations would take way more that a week or two just to see the sites other than the obvious Dragon. I just voted with Jeeps... I figure he knows best!

do we have dates or are we just picking spots now?

It's more of a HOW do we want to do it. If we do it ourselves, dates are less relevant. If we want to piggy back with another group, then that narrows down our dates. So, do you want it to be just TWF, or make it easier for the guys and piggyback with a bunch of strangers.

how far is maggie from the gap

Judging from previous discussions with Jeeps, I'd guess (I'm not from the area) Maggie Valley is the valley that stretches from the gap area down towards Gaitlinburg. So More than 5 minutes, but not significant. You want to warm up your tires before the dragon anyway.

well it looks like you have a lien towards Maggie so far, i was waiting to see what the consensus was too since I dont know anything up there...but since Jeeps said Maggie valley is near lots of other things (shopping, i hope) i would rather go there, esp since there should be plenty of choices on eating as well in a populated area...what can I say...shopping and food...:lol:

Good call on eating Rae... cause there wasn't that much just outside the gap in Tenn.

I vote Vegas! Wishful thinking...

maggie valley is not an easy ride to the gap like fontana or townsend, but you do get to ride some nice roads to get to the gap from it. You can see distances here, fontana is a lot closer than any of these. However, maggie valley is the most populated location and it's a lot easier to get the beer/alcohol you want. http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7841/areaqx0.jpg

I think those of us planning on taking a week of vacation to play would definately prefer the whole set up at maggie valley, those only comming for the weekend rally, would probably prefer something closer.

I think those of us planning on taking a week of vacation to play would definately prefer the whole set up at maggie valley, those only comming for the weekend rally, would probably prefer something closer. depends on what you want to do when your not riding or if you don't plan on not riding. I have stayed in Maggie Valley and Townsend. If you are going for other attractions besides riding, I hate to go against jeeps, but I would rather stay in Townsend. In easy range of the dragon, pigeon forge, foothills parkway, cade's cove, gatlinburg, the national park, and maryville/knoxville are pretty close if you want to hit up a city.

looking to see if anyone has an address of anyplace near deals gap. Looking to mapquest it to get the estimated mileage to figure if I can handle rideing there and back or if I trailer the mike from MA. I'm 45 min out of boston ... pm me an adress if you know one...

This is the store at the end of the dragon. Deal's Gap Motorcycle Resort 17548 Tapoco Road Tapoco, NC 28771

thanks trip..........

19: End at Deals Gap Motorcycle Resort 17548 Tapoco Rd, Tapoco, NC 28771, US Map Total Est. Time: 16 hours, 4 minutes Total Est. Distance: 962.47 miles per mapquest it is just under 1,000 miles one way....... that may be too far to ride if i want to enjoy my riding while i am there...

thats what you call sore ass.

When are you looking at having this like ballpark dates.

may through july

FONTANA........FONTANA.......WOO HOO :willy: WOO HOO :willy: WOO HOO :willy: I seem to be alone in this decision :skep: :scratch:

FONTANA........FONTANA.......WOO HOO :willy: WOO HOO :willy: WOO HOO :willy: I seem to be alone in this decision :skep: :scratch: I'm with ya, buddy.

I think fontana, punkin or one of the other really close resorts would be my choice, but I am not voting because I can go there any day I want because I live here. Townsend would be my choice if I was wanting more of a vacation that didn't have to be motorcycles 24/7.

I think fontana, punkin or one of the other really close resorts would be my choice, but I am not voting because I can go there any day I want because I live here. Townsend would be my choice if I was wanting more of a vacation that didn't have to be motorcycles 24/7. hmmmm, seeing as i dont know of anything up there, i would like to be where there are plenty of other things to do as well...maybe fontana is the better choice, i dunno, but i already voted for maggie...maybe later you can make a poll btw the 2 and give us the specs on both to make a more informed decision...

fontana, punkin, and the other close resorts are good locations if you want to ride a lot. maggie valley is good for non dragon riding and be in a populated area, I know they have a winter ski resort and some cheesy theme parks like Ghost Town and Santa's Village, but have never spent much time up that way. Townsend is close to a huge vacation spot. Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge as well as a quicker trip to the dragon. Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge has discount stores, tourist trap stores, touristy restaurants, all kinds of music shows, Dolly Parton's theme park and water park (Dollywood and Dolly's Splash Country), Dinner shows, music shows, ripley's believe it or not type entertainment. Cade's cove is close to townsend as well, it is an 11 mile one way road loop that has all kinds of old old homes, churches, wildlife, nice hiking trails, and is just rich with history in the Great Smokey Mountains National Park. The Park also has a ton of other stuff to do. Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge itself has all kinds of places to stay from cheap cabins/hotels, campgrounds to as ritzy of a place to stay as you could want, but the traffic is awful. Bumper to bumper for miles, townsend is more quiet with less options to stay. I think they have like 2 or 3 hotels, but loads of cabins and campgrounds. Just google about gatlinburg/pigeon forge, there is just loads of stuff to do if you don't mind traffic. Jeeps can explain more about Maggie.

oh well in that case i would rather be in that area... thanks for the info!!:dthumb:

oh well in that case i would rather be in that area... thanks for the info!!:dthumb: Having vacationed in the area for nonmotorcycle reasons before I lived in the area, townsend/gatlinburg/pigeon forge always appealed to me a lot more than the north carolina side of cherokee and maggie valley.

I've just heard enough about Fontana to say NOT DOING IT. Anywhere else I'd consider. But it sounds like they're not worth the location.

All in favor of trusting Trip on this one since he lives there....+1

All in favor of trusting Trip on this one since he lives there....+1 :yup:

jeeps lives near maggie valley, he might have another opinion on it. I am not trying to make ya'll indecisive :lol: This is ya'll vacation, so I want you to make an informed decision. This is just another week at home for me.

RObbinsville

someone is just going to have to make an executive decision apparently because everyone wants to go to different places lol or we can just all go at the same time and stay wherever you want and have certain times to meet up.

We stayed in Robbinsville and it kicked ass... Very close to both the skyway and the gap. SOme good cheap motels all very close to eachother there too.

I've just heard enough about Fontana to say NOT DOING IT. Anywhere else I'd consider. But it sounds like they're not worth the location. I'm all for riding with you folks in Fontana............MANY MANY MANY canyons & tracks to have fun at, BUT.............I have to agree with you Pucky, as far as the smog, traffic, people, & the bologna they bring with them, it may not worth it! :disapp: You'd have to be able to put up with a lot. Sad, isn't it? If it weren't for my daughters' school & friends, I'd move back to Montana.

I haven't voted yet... I will put some thought into it. I've been to the GAP many times, however there's still alot of ground I haven't covered down that way. I'll post up later after I have time to put some thought into it.

Well, there are only two votes to piggy back right now. So we have narrowed it down to the point were we want to just be a group by ourselves. Since it's an "un" official rally anyway. The next poll should be listing the available weekends. And seeing when is best for people. Then Jeeps and Trip need to collaborate and put together a summary of pro's and con's for each of the recommended locations. We've heard a bunch about Fontana, and we've been talking about Maggie Valley, but this was the first anybody chipped in with information on Townsend. Once we pick a primary and alternate weekend, we need to take a final vote on the place. Preferrably with the information laid out in front of us for people that didn't pay attention to the initial threads.

Weekends I noticed were tame this year: Memorial Day Weekend - this is a hit or miss every year. Could be extremely slow like it was this year or it could one of those years with 1000 cruisers going across the dragon in one long line. FZ1/SV rally weekend (June 10th weekend) - Just cause we don't piggy back doesn't mean we can't be there the same time. They were two calm groups and the traffic wasn't too bad. This one is a little harder for me because I stay away on weekends for the most part and hit it in the afternoons when I hardly see anyone on it, so if you have had pleasant experiences on weekends in may to early july time frame, let us hear which ones. Weekends to avoid: R6/R1-forum weekend - squids, squids, and more squids Mazda RX weekend - they were all over the freakin road Miata weekend - acknowledged by most to be the worst group at the dragon Mini Cooper weekend - they have a very large group that keeps growing

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TRIPLE POST! Here is the tail's calender for 06. They usually keep the same weekends, so you can see when certain groups are there. http://www.tailofthedragon.com/calendar.html

I think alot of guys here are waiting to see what date is picked to decide if they can go.

My POV Townsend I really like Townsend for being a Tourist and frequently spend weekends there as so. Townsend is close to everything for tourist in a beautiful mountain setting. Shops, shops and more shops. Bars/clubs are a little tuff to find in the dry counties. Those looking for those after hour activities will need to go towards Knoxville to find them. Food is abundant in that area with all the upper scale joints as well as Mc D's, BK and such. Its great for bikes too unless you hit the area during one of the big car shows. Fairly close to the Gap too. Traffic can be a nightmare to get through even if you know the back ways to move around. Trip, correct me if you know any different but its also about a 45 minute ride with light traffic and ridding quickly to get to the Gap. We need to make sure we don't get mixed up with one of the big shows. If so, that same travel time can take over an hour just to get out of town. Maggie Valley Beautiful mountain setting, Not quit the hustle as Townsend area. Shops and more Shops in the area. Even has a casino close by. It is further from the gap but the ride there is usually light traffic and almost as fun as the Gap itself. Its also a great ride to Gatlinburg/Townsend area as well. It has bars and no clubs. Those looking would need to go towards Asheville for clubs. Great food is also available. FYI Most the roads I would show anybody in the area would actually go in other directions away from the Gap. I know a few good roads in the East Tenn. area but not living there. I haven't found many that were as good as what's in my back yard. Trip would be the man for that tour. However, those interested in ridding would not be disappointed in the Western NC.

I think alot of guys here are waiting to see what date is picked to decide if they can go. Dates are a tuff subject. Once we decide on a certain date. Were going to stick to it. That's the only way to ever get it done.

Dates are a tuff subject. Once we decide on a certain date. Were going to stick to it. That's the only way to ever get it done. :iagree: My cousin's crew stays at the Jameson Hotel. I forget what town he said it's in...but they rent out half the joint at $65/night. $85 is the regular rate. He said its about 30-45 minutes from the Dragon.

As for activities...I'll be there to ride. Thats it. And drink a few beers at night. Then ride ride ride.

So one of you mods...start earning those big bucks Shan pays you and start a "Month" poll to determine the month...then do a "week" poll to determine the days of the week...finally, after we get the month and days down...we can argue about where to call for reservations... Geez...this was so simple even I thought of it...

So one of you mods...start earning those big bucks Shan pays you and start a "Month" poll to determine the month...then do a "week" poll to determine the days of the week...finally, after we get the month and days down...we can argue about where to call for reservations... Geez...this was so simple even I thought of it... Maybe not a bad idea.

I think it would be better to pick a date off of weather conditions and which groups are already using that date for a rally than just blindly picking one.

the thing with that is that ppl need to put vacation time in to this and have to have advanced warning

the thing with that is that ppl need to put vacation time in to this and have to have advanced warning exactly, thats why we need to decide on a date now using the 06 calender because groups keep their same weekends normally.

Ill need a little advance notice my self. I'm sure most everybody else will need the same so that vacations can be scheduled. What everybody needs to remember is that once the date is picked. We need to stick with it. Check work schedule and family holidays before voting. We cant change because, ie.. Rae's Uncle Jim's birthday is the same week Or my Moms 50th anniversary is on the same week. Those of us that are seriously planning on making this trip need to get this sorted out before the date is finalized. If something pops up after the fact. Then it will stay the same just with out that person. I know this sounds crude and rude but its the only way to do it.

:dthumb: :iagree:

So one of you mods...start earning those big bucks Shan pays you and start a "Month" poll to determine the month...then do a "week" poll to determine the days of the week...finally, after we get the month and days down...we can argue about where to call for reservations... Geez...this was so simple even I thought of it... Click here (Deals Gap rally possible dates.)for new poll to determine month of event. Also added link to first post in this thread.

Only thing that would stop me would be another deployment. This vacation is for me. Nobody's going to interfere.

Only thing that would stop me would be another deployment. This vacation is for me. Nobody's going to interfere. Are you full time or part time.

Ill need a little advance notice my self. I'm sure most everybody else will need the same so that vacations can be scheduled. What everybody needs to remember is that once the date is picked. We need to stick with it. Check work schedule and family holidays before voting. We cant change because, ie.. Rae's Uncle Jim's birthday is the same week Or my Moms 50th anniversary is on the same week. Those of us that are seriously planning on making this trip need to get this sorted out before the date is finalized. If something pops up after the fact. Then it will stay the same just with out that person. I know this sounds crude and rude but its the only way to do it. Thats the only way to do it. Inevitably there are going to be people who can't make it one week but can the next and this guy couldn't make it next week but can this and all that. We simply can't suit everybody...which I think we all realize.

MI National Guard... 8 months left on my ETS. Last stop loss caught me at 33 days, then we didn't deploy for 6 months. :cursin:

Thats the only way to do it. Inevitably there are going to be people who can't make it one week but can the next and this guy couldn't make it next week but can this and all that. We simply can't suit everybody...which I think we all realize. That's another reason I want to make it a whole week instead of just for the weekend. That way peeps that cant come fro the whole week might be able to squeeze in a weekend at the beginning or the end of the event.

good idea, rep points worthy

That's why I've voted for some place a little away from the Dragon... I'm comming for the company and the saddle time... not one specific stretch of road. I plan on covering alot of ground in a week. I'd like the location with the most versitility, not the shortest route to the Dragon.

I can promise a good variety of destinations but most all will be mountain two-lane roads.:drool:

are there any other kinds of road in TN?

What do you think I'm looking for jeeps... :scratch: if I want 4 lane highways I can stay home in michigan... :skep: I have lots of flat 2 lane roads also.... :leaving:

are there any other kinds of road in TN? East Tenn. and West NC have some boring highways. I don't know many in good roads in Tenn.

That's another reason I want to make it a whole week instead of just for the weekend. That way peeps that cant come fro the whole week might be able to squeeze in a weekend at the beginning or the end of the event. One problem with me and in maggie valley is that I will definitely only be a one weekend rider if we stay there. That is too long of a ride for me from work to go on weekdays and I still haven't been bumped to the next level of vacation time at work, so I have to be careful on how much I use until I reach that 3 year level. I definitely prefer the dragon locations or tennessee side then way over into NC.

Vacation is irrelevant to me because I will schedule accordingly.

Well, I wish I had that luxury, but we all need electricity 24/7. It looks like Maggie has won this poll. I will let jeeps deal with getting this thing setup if that is the choice for sure. I know nothing of that area except cataloochee skiing and ghost town. Plus, time getting this thing set up and me actually being in that area isn't agreeable due to distance and free time I will have available on weekdays. If some of you want to just stay in the dragon area instead and split the groups up because we all don't have to be in the same location to be close enough to have group rides, I can try to arrange group rates with one of the resorts based upon what date we decide on.

I thought this was tenative, and that after we set the date, we'd acutually get prices and decide what / where the majority group would acutally set up? I'm flexible with townsend or Maggie... but I won't do Fontana.

Pretty much it is your vacation, you ultimately have to decide which location is right for yourself. Some people want to be close to the dragon. I know would want to be if I was planning a midnight attack on the dragon. Meeting up for group rides is easy if we just keep the centralized location as the gap. You going to have a whole week there and are going to want to do more than ride 24/7 with the abundance of other activities they have in this area. I say we just get rates and we can choose what location is best for ourselves. I don't plan on going over to maggie at all, I am going to stick to the dragon and skyway.

Pretty much it is your vacation, you ultimately have to decide which location is right for yourself. Some people want to be close to the dragon. I know would want to be if I was planning a midnight attack on the dragon. Meeting up for group rides is easy if we just keep the centralized location as the gap. You going to have a whole week there and are going to want to do more than ride 24/7 with the abundance of other activities they have in this area. I say we just get rates and we can choose what location is best for ourselves. I don't plan on going over to maggie at all, I am going to stick to the dragon and skyway. That's why I don't think we want to be right next to the Dragon. But I do think we'd all benefit from being together. This is about hanging out together and riding together. If we all choose different places, It will limit some of the other stuff. Like dinner and drinks... If some of us have to drive somewhere else afterwards to get to bed. It limits how late I'll hang out, and I won't drink. Where ever we end up, it should be emphsised that this is a GROUP rally and we need a majority consensus on where we're going to be based out of. Some will split off yes. But don't make that an option from the get go.

That's why I don't think we want to be right next to the Dragon. But I do think we'd all benefit from being together. This is about hanging out together and riding together. If we all choose different places, It will limit some of the other stuff. Like dinner and drinks... If some of us have to drive somewhere else afterwards to get to bed. It limits how late I'll hang out, and I won't drink. Where ever we end up, it should be emphsised that this is a GROUP rally and we need a majority consensus on where we're going to be based out of. Some will split off yes. But don't make that an option from the get go. Well I started trying to set this up as a dragon rally, it was split off from there. I won't be able to attend as much as I would like if it's location goes as voted for, so if some what to stay where I can attend more, I will be happy to try to help these people.

Relax Trip. This is a preliminary. Don't get your panties in a twist until people start making reservations.

Relax Trip. This is a preliminary. Don't get your panties in a twist until people start making reservations. lol, I am fine. I just want to be able to attend a lot more, especially since it was me that started trying to get this thing setup.

so for trip a place close the gap would be best, is there anything in the area that has other offerings to satisfy the tourist in all of us??

Sounds like Trip just needs to post up a whole post on Townsend. Attractions and accomadations. Maggie Valley just had more publicity going into the first vote. Townsend sounds like it's got most of what we want, and we'll be riding to do stuff anyway, if they want more variety. And it's closer to Deals Gap. Try some positive advertising instead of trying to splinter the rally, and I'll support you instead of harrass

i know mine and psychos view is: tell us where to go and when, we will be there

i know mine and psychos view is: tell us where to go and when, we will be there With the one exception that I won't stay at Fontana. That's pretty much my attitude. It won't be work, and I'll be with friends 'nough said. I'm just trying to give feed back to the planners... and :whore: while avoiding my duties at work. :leaving:

Fontana is not that bad, I stayed there for the weekend during the SV rally so I could hangout more. I never had any problems with them. I had one of the full cabins with air conditioning and TV. R1's hotel room didn't look that bad either.

cable and A/C is a MUST!

Nothing beats turning the a/c on until you're cold and snuggling up to a warm body in bed...

not for everyone, I think R1 was planning to camp next time. They also have cabins with no A/C, towels, TV, or bedsheets. They are a lot cheaper.

not for everyone, I think R1 was planning to camp next time. They also have cabins with no A/C, towels, TV, or bedsheets. They are a lot cheaper. NO THANK YOU!!! I need all those things!

cable and A/C is a MUST! :iagree: i can camp, my gf ... not so much

:iagree: i can camp, my gf ... not so much I like to camp as well. But there's nothing like sittin on the bed after a long hard day of riding. No A/C... and I'll be going down the road to the holiday inn or whatever...

You don't have to get a no A/C room or cabin. It's just if you are a budgetminded consumer or don't mind the great outdoors.

Yeah I understand..

As stated before, Ill go where ever the majority go. Matters not to me. I love hanging in Pigeonforge area. Just don't know many cool roads. I love ridding in the Maggie and surrounding areas but I know all roads. I'm still open on all this. Just waiting on the majority to decide.:tt:

Pretty much everyone has voted that was interested and some that aren't even voted lol.

Trip summarized the expected weekend schedule for us in the other thread. I'd guess we're looking at the first week of June if we want to make it two weekends and a week so people could make it whenever they could make it. The next step I'd recommend is to check both Maggie valley, and Townsend and see who'll give us group rates and list ammenities and prices. Lets see if we can get a consensus. I wouldn't mind moving it to Townsend if the price is right. I'll be comming down for the whole week, and will ride more than the immediate area we're staying in.

I will get my girlfriend to post a comparison for nonmotorcycle attractions and the female perspective a little later for both places. We actually met on a ski trip to maggie valley and go through townsend a bunch to do stuff in the mountains.

My girl didn't come over last night, I will get her to do it as soon as she does come over. Someone talked about Tapoco Lodge Resort earlier. This is near the dragon but the other way at the crossroads from Fontana, going toward Robbinsville. Looks pretty nice. http://www.tapocolodge.com/

That's in my price range. I'll take an economy room... and we'll have the party in the TV lounge.

That sounds like a nice enough place. Never been there so I don't know anything about it. Do you think they can handle twenty or 30 of us at one time.

If we make reservations early enough we can get in anywhere. Plus there is still cabins in the area and other locations like fontana or robbinsville.

it said that they could take groups, and the economy room is in my price range

punkin center on the tennessee side of the dragon, I would say it is closer to the dragon than fontana and close to maryville. http://www.punkincentermotorcycleresort.com/ Here is fontana's site for anyone interested http://www.fontanavillage.com/

this is also a consideration http://www.twowheelinn.com/ has a garage for two bikes that comes with the room

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thats in robbinsville, there is a ton more lodging there. These 3 locations are a lot closer to the dragon. There is always the Deals gap motel, probably is expensive though.

oh well, that the whole garage that came with the room was a interesting idea

oh well, that the whole garage that came with the room was a interesting idea That would top my list of ideas! I know I have some personal issues about leaving a $35K chop sittin outside!!! A serious issue!

I haven't voted...only b/c I dont know the area and really dont care where I stay...as long as I'm riding.

That would top my list of ideas! I know I have some personal issues about leaving a $35K chop sittin outside!!! A serious issue! I don't blame you!

I don't blame you! Me either.

Me either. Yeah i'm not trying to be special...but when a guys single bike is worth like 3-4 other bikes... you have to treat it differently.

Yeah i'm not trying to be special...but when a guys single bike is worth like 3-4 other bikes... you have to treat it differently. I'm not worried about mine cuz my security system consists of me parking next to nicer bikes. Your's IS the nicer bike.

There are 112 posts in a thread with 23 votes in the poll...:yikes: must be some :whore: :whore: :whore: :whore: :whore: :whore: :whore: :whore: :whore: :whore: going on...:cheers:

Yeah well... I can always put my bike in my room!!!

Yeah well... I can always put my bike in my room!!! Truth. Ground level room brother.

Truth. Ground level room brother. That's what I'm thinking! And believe me... I'LL DO IT!

That's what I'm thinking! And believe me... I'LL DO IT! I wouldn't blame you...infact I would encourage it.

There's a refurbed campsite in Stecoah which is on 28 just north of 74 if you look on the map posted, about where the "Graham" is printed. Not a bad site. The web site doesn't do it justice. Jeeps, you've been by it I'm sure. It's the one on the right as your heading towards the Gap right after the 4lane drops back down to a 2 lane and just before where you turn off to Iron Horse campground. Bryson is about 10 miles away and the Gap is about 20 and a nice ride up 28 to get to it. The campground is called Kick Stand. http://www.kickstandlodge.com/

There's a refurbed campsite in Stecoah which is on 28 just north of 74 if you look on the map posted, about where the "Graham" is printed. Not a bad site. The web site doesn't do it justice. Jeeps, you've been by it I'm sure. It's the one on the right as your heading towards the Gap right after the 4lane drops back down to a 2 lane and just before where you turn off to Iron Horse campground. Bryson is about 10 miles away and the Gap is about 20 and a nice ride up 28 to get to it. The campground is called Kick Stand. http://www.kickstandlodge.com/ Know it well! :dthumb: