Audiomechanic 08-12-2006, 05:08 PM Well, after a messy screw up with the bank (their fault), I am forced to sell the Gixxer. My credit score has dropped about 200 points and I am just blah right now.
It's a sad day. I washed the Gixxer this morning and parked in the garage for it's final resting until the next owner rides her off.
It was a good ride while it lasted (4 months). I won't be able to buy another bike for a couple years or better. Next time I'll go for somethin different like an RC51 or XB12R. Something V-twin.
Well, thought I'd pass on the news. I'll still hang around though. I'm still a motorcycle enthusiest but for a while I'll be one without the motorcycle.
-Peace
JK_DILLA 08-12-2006, 05:41 PM Wow, do you not want to tell the rest of the story?
Well, thought I'd pass on the news. I'll still hang around though. I'm still a motorcycle enthusiest but for a while I'll be one without the motorcycle.
Yes, stick around, we can help make your time without a bike, unnessicarily difficult. :D
Audiomechanic 08-12-2006, 05:47 PM Basically, the bank did not update my address info and their automated phone system would not let me talk to a human being. The phone number kept asking for an account number but I didn't have that because I didn't get any statements. finally, I got through to my dealer's sales manager, he gave me the "back door" number to the bank and I talked to a person but it was too late. My account was already sold to collections. So, after a lot of stress, I was able to co-sign a loan through my credit union with my dad to pay off the collectors and keep a repo off my credit. My credit WAS perfect. And I mean PERFECT. My score was almost an 800 and now it's a 542. It's gonna take a while to build it back up but in order to stay afloat, I need to sell the bike.
Crazy250 08-12-2006, 05:54 PM ouch man, hope everything turns out alright. Good Luck! and stick around
fatburg 08-12-2006, 05:56 PM wow that sucks. Good luck getting that all straightened out.
Stick around and enjoy this great place:twfrox:
King Bob 08-12-2006, 05:57 PM That seriously SUCKS. and is the reason I always try to pay in cash upfront. Sorry to hear this kind of stupid crap happened because they use that automated CRAP. I pick up a phone to talk to a PERSON NOT A MACHINE!
Audiomechanic 08-12-2006, 06:04 PM That seriously SUCKS. and is the reason I always try to pay in cash upfront. Sorry to hear this kind of stupid crap happened because they use that automated CRAP. I pick up a phone to talk to a PERSON NOT A MACHINE!
I agree. Once I found out who had financed my bike, I alomst crapped myself and realized why I was going through all this trouble. Household Bank. Almost everyone I have told that to has said to me, "Crap dude. If I'd have known that it was Household, I'd have told you to RUN!" Yea, I would have had I gotten a flippin statement. Oh well. The damage is done. There's more I could have done as well, like I could been more dillegent in contacting the sales manager at my dealer to get that "back door" dealer number.
I I've got 3 loans that I'm working on now and should have paid off in about a year and a half, that should boost me back up to the upper 600's which is considered "good," not great but good.
JK_DILLA 08-12-2006, 08:21 PM ouch audio.... thats why i do most of my financing through a credit union, they arent so quick to pull the trigger and you can walk in and yell at actual human beings when things arent right.
Audiomechanic 08-12-2006, 08:26 PM ouch audio.... thats why i do most of my financing through a credit union, they arent so quick to pull the trigger and you can walk in and yell at actual human beings when things arent right.
Yup. That's what my loan officer at the credit union at the credit union said. I've learned my lesson. Next time I'm pullin an unsecured loan at the credit union and walkin into the dealership with the cash. Cash is a better bargaining tool anyway.
jeeps84 08-13-2006, 01:01 AM Yup. That's what my loan officer at the credit union at the credit union said. I've learned my lesson. Next time I'm pullin an unsecured loan at the credit union and walkin into the dealership with the cash. Cash is a better bargaining tool anyway.
The only thing better is cash from an account. No loans at all. Hope things work out for you soon.
TATER 08-13-2006, 02:43 AM i feel for you man.. but make sure you stick around it is rare to find a great group of people like those on he TWF... and yes :twfrox:
itgirl25 08-13-2006, 08:44 AM so are you saying that you owned a bike for 4 months and never made a payment on it? if so, didn't that strike you as a bit odd 3 months ago, when you never got the first statement? :scratch:
Audiomechanic 08-13-2006, 09:50 AM so are you saying that you owned a bike for 4 months and never made a payment on it? if so, didn't that strike you as a bit odd 3 months ago, when you never got the first statement? :scratch:
Yup. That's why I tried calling the bank several times. I also called the dealer and they kept telling me that I had recieved some promotional "delayed payment" thing and to not worry about it. Looks like I should have worried more!
This whole thing was just one big mess. It's the bank's fault for not updating my info but it's mine as well for not following up dilegently enough. I learned my lesson.
And yes, Jeeps, no loans is the best way to go but if I'm gonna get a loan, I know where to go now. At least now I'm smart enough to know that I'm not even gonna try to get a loan until some of my other debt is paid off. I wouldn't have been over whelmed by the bike payments but it would have been tight for a while. Perhaps it's for the best.
itgirl25 08-13-2006, 03:14 PM [QUOTE=Audiomechanic]Yup. That's why I tried calling the bank several times. I also called the dealer and they kept telling me that I had recieved some promotional "delayed payment" thing and to not worry about it. Looks like I should have worried more!
This whole thing was just one big mess. It's the bank's fault for not updating my info but it's mine as well for not following up dilegently enough. I learned my lesson. QUOTE]
this is a very unfortunate incident, i feel badly for you. you did learn a very valuable lesson though. it is a shame we hafta keep on top of stuff like this. i had this happen to me once with my cel phone company. they just started sending my bills to a different address for no apparent reason, so i wasn't getting them. after 2 months of this, i realized i wasn't getting my bill and called them. they were nearly gonna shut off my service until i strightened it out. i don't know why this happened, i didn't authorize any change of address. just a fluke, i guess.
anyways, you are not totally at fault here. the only thing you shoulda done was check into it sooner. but i knwo we only have control over so much when it comes to this stuff. you'll bounce back, it'll just take some time. :luck: with it all.
Audiomechanic 08-13-2006, 04:59 PM this is a very unfortunate incident, i feel badly for you. you did learn a very valuable lesson though. it is a shame we hafta keep on top of stuff like this. i had this happen to me once with my cel phone company. they just started sending my bills to a different address for no apparent reason, so i wasn't getting them. after 2 months of this, i realized i wasn't getting my bill and called them. they were nearly gonna shut off my service until i strightened it out. i don't know why this happened, i didn't authorize any change of address. just a fluke, i guess.
anyways, you are not totally at fault here. the only thing you shoulda done was check into it sooner. but i knwo we only have control over so much when it comes to this stuff. you'll bounce back, it'll just take some time. :luck: with it all.
Yea, I definately learned that. I still can't believe that I had to call the bank using a "dealership only" number to get to a stinking person. Oh, well. The damage is done. All I can do is pay off this credit union loan and a couple others (truck and student) and hope my credit score goes somewhat back to what it was. What irritates me the most is that before this, I had perfect credit. And I mean PERFECT! Not even so much as a late payment! Things happen for a reason though and even though I am loosing a very nice machine, I am at peace with it. I'll get another one eventually and perhaps the next one I get will suit me even better!
Thanks for the moral support guys (and gal)! I will fo sho be stickin around.
bumblebee 08-13-2006, 06:40 PM There is still something you can do...contact all three major credit bureaus and explain the situation. They have to change false or incorrect information. If you have proof the bank dropped the ball, you can regain some of your rating...There are always several sides to each story, but if you feel you were wronged, you have options
Audiomechanic 08-13-2006, 07:32 PM There is still something you can do...contact all three major credit bureaus and explain the situation. They have to change false or incorrect information. If you have proof the bank dropped the ball, you can regain some of your rating...There are always several sides to each story, but if you feel you were wronged, you have options
That's a pretty good idea! I don't know if I have proof though. The only way I found out that the bank had my wrong address, was when I called them. They asked for my current address so it's changed and current now (not that it matters anymore). All I have is verbal confirmation of the wrong address. Is there a way I can get physical proof?
OneSickPsycho 08-13-2006, 10:33 PM That's a pretty good idea! I don't know if I have proof though. The only way I found out that the bank had my wrong address, was when I called them. They asked for my current address so it's changed and current now (not that it matters anymore). All I have is verbal confirmation of the wrong address. Is there a way I can get physical proof?
Doubtful that the USPS keeps records that specific (ie. mail that was delivered for you to a different address, or returned mail)...
Do a reverse phone number lookup based on your old address to contact the current resident... Maybe they remember getting things postmarked for you, from the bank... or better yet, maybe they still have one of the unopened statements... Even if they just remember getting it and you can get them to sign a sworn affidavit stating so, that's better than nothing...
Obviously this is an enormous longshot, but at least it's a place to start...
Audiomechanic 08-13-2006, 10:57 PM Doubtful that the USPS keeps records that specific (ie. mail that was delivered for you to a different address, or returned mail)...
Do a reverse phone number lookup based on your old address to contact the current resident... Maybe they remember getting things postmarked for you, from the bank... or better yet, maybe they still have one of the unopened statements... Even if they just remember getting it and you can get them to sign a sworn affidavit stating so, that's better than nothing...
Obviously this is an enormous longshot, but at least it's a place to start...
True. It's good advice. Thank you.
Gas Man 08-13-2006, 11:25 PM You need to fight it. Bottom line...
OneSickPsycho 08-13-2006, 11:32 PM True. It's good advice. Thank you.
One thing I just thought of... MUCH more of a longshot...
Call and ask the bank to fax you some sort of record of your address change, complete with dates of that transaction... They might do it without even thinking... Especially considering the fact that you will probably be talking with a customer service rep making $8/hr who wouldn't know any better... Less detail you provide the better... I would just say you need to show the post office proof that you aren't getting your mail forwarded as you previously requested...
Again, this is totally unbelievable and a crazy ninja longshot, but it's one phone call... Can't hurt...
*** It's important to ask for a fax in this situation as something by mail will pass through more hands and is more likely to be identified as a risk for the company...
stomper173 08-13-2006, 11:35 PM Wow, do you not want to tell the rest of the story?
Yes, stick around, we can help make your time without a bike, unnessicarily difficult. :D
Well put Dilla, i got my licsense took away but comin on here dont make it as bad :twfrox:
jeeps84 08-13-2006, 11:36 PM Well put Dilla, i got my licsense took away but comin on here dont make it as bad :twfrox:
Do tell!:scratch:
oldetymebiker 08-14-2006, 12:01 AM Well, after a messy screw up with the bank (their fault), I am forced to sell the Gixxer. My credit score has dropped about 200 points and I am just blah right now.
It's a sad day. I washed the Gixxer this morning and parked in the garage for it's final resting until the next owner rides her off.
It was a good ride while it lasted (4 months). I won't be able to buy another bike for a couple years or better. Next time I'll go for somethin different like an RC51 or XB12R. Something V-twin.
Well, thought I'd pass on the news. I'll still hang around though. I'm still a motorcycle enthusiest but for a while I'll be one without the motorcycle.
-Peace
Go look at your contract...when you bought the bike and signed the loan agreement........It gives the financer info on the contract, also the first payment date due, and where to send it......it's not the bank's obligation to bill you, it's your obligation to abide by the contract terms...........sorry. Even if the dealership "put you out" on a general loan agreement and sold it later to another bank...you need to abide by the original agreement until duly notified....
That's why you need to read all that small print..................
Audiomechanic 08-14-2006, 08:50 AM Go look at your contract...when you bought the bike and signed the loan agreement........It gives the financer info on the contract, also the first payment date due, and where to send it......it's not the bank's obligation to bill you, it's your obligation to abide by the contract terms...........sorry. Even if the dealership "put you out" on a general loan agreement and sold it later to another bank...you need to abide by the original agreement until duly notified....
That's why you need to read all that small print..................
That was one of the things I thought of a couple months back. I scoured through my paper work that the dealer gave me when I bought the bike and no where in it did it have any info on the financial institution where the account was held. My payment amount was there, but nothing else.
I do admit that I dropped the ball big time on this one. I'm not putting anyone else at complete fault. This wasn't my complete fault however and I'm not 100% to blame. The bank screwed up (my address is correct in my bike papers from the dealer AND the registration address with the state is correct!) on the address, but I screwed up in not being dillegent enough in following up. This is due to a fe reason but none of those reason's excuse my fault in it.
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