Supra vs. zx10r

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/zx10r/0/c884eb4d-61c7-425d-a8cd-982b00f8d8fc.htm

If the rider had kept the front down instead of trying to show off. He would have made short work of the Yota.

True, but prob wanted them 2 think they had a chance b4 he taught them a lesson!

Supras aren't to be toyed with. Bikes aren't the fastest thing on the street. Just the most common.

But a well tuned ear lets you know who u should and should not play with!

I couldn't see it :cry:

I couldn't see it :cry:

Picture this.
A sports car with a camera mounted between the seats chases down a bike and pulls along side to instigates a race. We see nothing but straight ahead. You can here both the car and bike get on the gas. Then the bike comes into view on the back wheel as it passes and proceeds to leave the car. The whole time the car passengers are raving how cool it is.

Yeah that's about it....

I know a guy up in the Flint area that has a Supra pushing some insane 800hp. There isn't a guy on a bike that can keep up unless maybe its Rossi. The guy has no plate on the car and rarely takes it out. He only uses cash to buy gas and oil for the car so there is no tracing. The cops hate this guy and want him bad. I've seen him in action and hung out with him before at my condo. Way bad ass

Yeah that's about it....

I know a guy up in the Flint area that has a Supra pushing some insane 800hp. There isn't a guy on a bike that can keep up unless maybe its Rossi. The guy has no plate on the car and rarely takes it out. He only uses cash to buy gas and oil for the car so there is no tracing. The cops hate this guy and want him bad. I've seen him in action and hung out with him before at my condo. Way bad ass


Thats where I have to laugh cuz an equally modded bike CAN win. and everybody knows "a guy"

Well I would never give up his name on a open forum. He's a good guy and I have seen heavily modded Busa's not be able to keep up. Like Jeeps said... the supra aren't to toy with. They can eat Vipers, and vettes for breakfast. I left the disclaimer that Rossi might take it I have seen it that even if you hang with him in the straight... you'll back out in the corner and he (supra) won't.

Thats where I have to laugh cuz an equally modded bike CAN win. and everybody knows "a guy"
How old are you? No matter, you need more knowledge on the subject.
Well I would never give up his name on a open forum. He's a good guy and I have seen heavily modded Busa's not be able to keep up. Like Jeeps said... the supra aren't to toy with. They can eat Vipers, and vettes for breakfast. I left the disclaimer that Rossi might take it I have seen it that even if you hang with him in the straight... you'll back out in the corner and he (supra) won't.
Many on sportbikes have tried to keep up with me driving my STi in the corners. Most cant.:D Its not even that fast. Just quick.

If the rider had kept the front down instead of trying to show off. He would have made short work of the Yota.

No doubt. Notice how fast he left once he put the front end down?

As for supras, yeah, they can be modded to be VERY fast. And I'm not surprised a lot of guys can't hang with your STi in the corners, jeeps. That thing is AWD and built to be a rally car. Lots of traction in it.

Yep..exactly Jeeps!

I agree that a properly modded Supra is faster than most bikes. But I have seen a bike that might be able to give an 800+ hp Supra a run for its money. This Busa had something like 450+ hp and was street fightered (naked). The rider was pretty good too. Now, a car that has 800 hp, and a bike that at most probably weighs ~500 lbs but with 450 hp.... that's almost a 1 to 1 power to weight ratio. That's insane. Of course I'm only talking about straight lining. even around turns, one of those import car magazines featured an article bout a year ago and it was a Skyline with ~1000 hp and a stock zx10r, stock zx6r and a modded zx6r. They took Doug Chandler (I believe it was him... correct me if you know otherwise) on the 10r and some other insanely fast riders on the other bikes and a import racer in the skyline. they did the whole nine yds on the car and the bikes, and bikes were actually faster on the lap times. Don't you know, bikes are faster around corners? That is, if you have the balls to push your bike. Unless you're talking F1, cuz F1 cars are actually faster than GP bikes in all aspects

...bikes were actually faster on the lap times. Don't you know, bikes are faster around corners? That is, if you have the balls to push your bike. Unless you're talking F1, cuz F1 cars are actually faster than GP bikes in all aspects

Ok, was the import racer a true race driver? Because almost every comparison I've seen so far shows the cars faster in the corners because they have 4 wheels to grip the road, rather than two. Case in point: Go to http://www.putnampark.com and click on Pro's Perspective in the bottom of the left frame. Then in the right frame, click on motorcycle. The motorcycle lap record is 1:12.90. (I'd like to see a GP rider on a GP bike, but I doubt that will ever happen.) Now click on "pro list" near the bottom of the left frame. Before they start naming names, they list the track record as 52.91, held in a champ car. There was a track day recently for Vipers, Vettes, Porches, etc and the guys in the cars were turning sub 1:09 laps. Whenever I was at a track day for bikes, the racers were turning sub 1:20 laps, with some in the 1:xteens. I think it all depends on the bike and the rider, but if bikes were THAT much faster, I don't think the lap records at Putnam would be a full 20 seconds apart.

This is all just :crazy: I don't care if an '89 Escort can be modded to be faster than my bike, I don't have anything to prove. I ride my own ride, and I can deal with the fact that there are much faster cars/bikes and more importantly drivers/riders than me. I work on improving my skills, speed is a by-product of good technique more than big HP. I mean put me on a the biggest/baddest racing bike in the world and Rossi (or any other decent racer) would smoke me on a 125 gp bike in everything but a long straight. The world is not all about CC's or HP.

Ok, was the import racer a true race driver? Because almost every comparison I've seen so far shows the cars faster in the corners because they have 4 wheels to grip the road, rather than two. Case in point: Go to http://www.putnam park and click on Pro's Perspective in the bottom of the left frame. Then in the right frame, click on motorcycle. The motorcycle lap record is 1:12.90. (I'd like to see a GP rider on a GP bike, but I doubt that will ever happen.) Now click on "pro list" near the bottom of the left frame. Before they start naming names, they list the track record as 52.91, held in a champ car. There was a track day recently for Vipers, Vettes, Porches, etc and the guys in the cars were turning sub 1:09 laps. Whenever I was at a track day for bikes, the racers were turning sub 1:20 laps, with some in the 1:xteens. I think it all depends on the bike and the rider, but if bikes were THAT much faster, I don't think the lap records at Putnam would be a full 20 seconds apart.

Good point. But it's also true that bikes have a much steeper learning curve than cars. But a full 20 sec? Wow... I'm not saying bikes are MUCH faster than cars, but you should check out the clip with a Lambo and a Duc 999. Just go to youtube.com and do a search for it. In any case I'm an avid biker and I like cars too but there's nothing like carving up the road (or track) on a bike :wink: I guess with all the resources available, cars are ultimately faster (bigger engines) but the novelty of having a fast bike is that, it's already ridiculously fast right out of the crate.
Oh, and the Skyline driver was a professional, can't recall his name. The guy on the zx10 (Doug Chandler) is a retired racer.

How old are you? No matter, you need more knowledge on the subject.

Many on sportbikes have tried to keep up with me driving my STi in the corners. Most cant.:D Its not even that fast. Just quick.


29 years jeeps, and it is you who needs more knowledge on the subject. Have to laugh at this forum all the time cuz the mods think they know everything bout everything. They do throw out some pretty good info from time to time but for the most part its just very, well... Oh and Most cant meens some can! And considering that just about anyone can drive a car fast, and few can put it down on a bike its no wonder how you got confused.

i had a bit of fun with a supra a few months ago,he overtook a car on a country lane with me behind him when he pulled into his lane (only two lane road) i kept on the outside and opened up on my R1 before i knew it we where both doing 135mph with oncoming traffic fast approaching in my lane:crazy: must admit he caught me by surprise never knew they where that fast we where neck and neck when he pulled a little to one side and i managed to get in front of him :thx1: if he hadnt it would of been either me dead or bottle out and pull back:bash: thats the last time i tangle with one of those

Picture this.
A sports car with a camera mounted between the seats chases down a bike and pulls along side to instigates a race. We see nothing but straight ahead. You can here both the car and bike get on the gas. Then the bike comes into view on the back wheel as it passes and proceeds to leave the car. The whole time the car passengers are raving how cool it is.

sound nice.....:thx1:

The two biggest disadvantages of bikes are aerodynamics and their stability at highspeed. That is why a "Well Built" Supra will ALWAYS OWN.
That being said check out some videos
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8898698402449366551

Right click and save as for this one
http://www.phatka-t.com/Marko1491WHP.MOV

Interesting... I say again... the Supra's are a F**k off car!

Here, ppl who only have the Stage III turbo on the busa (mostly Velocity 600HP turbo) with a shot of nos screw with Supra's or GTR's which are 800-1000HP Cars, and i must say the Busa's are ahead. There is ONE Supra No will Screw it so Far.
It belongs to the Agent's son of Toyota, you may have heard of it or seen it in Mag's it is the Fastest Supra in the World with 1400hp, Yellow color and was Made by Bullish Racing USA. That car, no will will toy with at All. The kings Son has a Maclarn and he could not keep up with it :yikes: .
I do Agree, Though A Supra or Performance Car which has Spent Ten's of Thousands on it Demands Respect... The only Advantage for a bike is, you dont have to spend that much to reach the 600hp mark :dthumb:

29 years jeeps, and it is you who needs more knowledge on the subject. Have to laugh at this forum all the time cuz the mods think they know everything bout everything. They do throw out some pretty good info from time to time but for the most part its just very, well...

I have never claimed to know every thing and I cant recall any mod here making that claim. We do try to help and keep things real.

Oh and Most cant meens some can! And considering that just about anyone can drive a car fast, and few can put it down on a bike its no wonder how you got confused.
I don't claim to be the fastest and best driver or have the fastest car either. I'm just stating facts. Most riders cant keep up with me in the corners and some cant even do it in a straight line. Just about anyone can drive fast in a straight line on a bike or in a car. Getting of the line and making either go through a corner at speed is a different story. Its a basic rule of physics that cant be over looked. The fastest vehicles are always cars. What has the fastest 1/4 mile time? A car. What holds the top speed record? A car. What has the fastest lap times on almost any track if not every track? A car. Do your research as I am done debating this subject.

how bout 2003-2004 cobras:crazy:

ive seen a lot of them mess with stock bikes and keep up, i mean they mod really easy and can make over 500 rwhp real easy, i mean mine has 483 at the rear wheels and only legit prob 2K$ in mods to the engine (another 4K$ in mods to the suspension etc) but ive seen cobras throwing down 600-700rwhp
I was messin with a viper on the highway the other day and was pulling on him, o well

i miss my bike:nonod:

Just adds to my point that cars can be faster.

i agree with the cars can be faster, there was a guy i knew one time that had a 5.7 30,000 1/8 car. he kept saying every sat night at the drag strip noone could out run me. needless to say a guy came up from a big town close to were i live. the guy had a 03 busa with a turbo plus nos with a wheelie bar what 8 feet long. the guy never said anything esle. he ran one time down the track with a 5.0. the guy never said anything to him about raceing. the thing is to me i just think its easyer to take a bike and build the crap out of it for around 17,000 bike and all. went u buy a car and build the crap out of it for around 40,000. but i love both i have many of fun times with my Z28. but i havent had alot of time to have fun on my bike. that is just my :2cents: im not that smart too..lol

I have a 1993 Ford Festiva that I will race against any bike.... :lol:

http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Photos/01school1/01bhf23.jpg

I have a 1993 Ford Festiva that I will race against any bike.... :lol:

http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Photos/01school1/01bhf23.jpg

there is a guy here who has one with a tubro off a disel...lol.... the funny thing was when it was running omg, but he blew the engine. (note to self disel tubro dont go well with car motors)

there is a guy here who has one with a tubro off a disel...lol.... the funny thing was when it was running omg, but he blew the engine. (note to self disel tubro dont go well with car motors)

Its all about boost pressure. To much and BOOM! Most stock motors cant handle more than a few pounds. Most diesel turbos start at 15psi or higher.

Hey Gas man you race an improved touring racecar how cool is that! my favorite car i've ever owned was a fiesta which was also my first i always used to catch sportbikers on highway 60 were i grew up of course the badass riders that truly went fast would always catch and pass me, but i always got a kick out of catching guys and honking furiously much to their suprise i was a car guy first and still am, but i must say for me personally it's not about outright speed it's all about fun. i personally think that people who are in motorcyling for speed should probably get into drag racing or something.

I have a 1993 Ford Festiva that I will race against any bike.... :lol:

http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Photos/01school1/01bhf23.jpg

good call trading in the wife's Equinox and your F150 for that! you'll both be happier riding together anyway, especially with how that thing corners. just don't let either of your dogs chew on it...:lol:

5 seconds sounds super slow for an 1/8th mile on anything. If i remember correctally when i ran some 1/8th miles on my yz450f on dirt i was running less than 6's at something like 90mph but id get up to 4th gear revlimitor probally 1/10 of the way there and stop accelerating.
I would consider my self a pro for the dragging on an mx bike and i allways got holeshots 250A.

A sport bike with a bar should be able to do it a lot faster.

Hey Gas man you race an improved touring racecar how cool is that! my favorite car i've ever owned was a fiesta which was also my first i always used to catch sportbikers on highway 60 were i grew up of course the badass riders that truly went fast would always catch and pass me, but i always got a kick out of catching guys and honking furiously much to their suprise i was a car guy first and still am, but i must say for me personally it's not about outright speed it's all about fun. i personally think that people who are in motorcyling for speed should probably get into drag racing or something.
Yeah I'm sorry but I was kidding... that would be cool.... but I did own a festiva as my first car. Loved that little car! Use to jump things with it!

nice vid