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10-03-2006, 06:56 PM
Shopping for Politicians (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/News/WalMartShoppingForLawmakers.aspx?GT1=8698)
This really pisses me off. Sometimes I really hate how our government works.
Another Walmart threadIneffable 10-03-2006, 06:56 PM Shopping for Politicians (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/News/WalMartShoppingForLawmakers.aspx?GT1=8698)
This really pisses me off. Sometimes I really hate how our government works. fatburg 10-04-2006, 07:21 AM sympathy post:twfrox:
it's called an agenda, everybody and everything that has money that can be affected by which political figure is in office has one. marko138 10-04-2006, 07:29 AM http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/markgraves138/smilies/EMOGay.gif itgirl25 10-04-2006, 08:28 AM i LOVE walmart!! marko138 10-04-2006, 08:28 AM i LOVE walmart!!
:nonod: I hate it. jetskifast 10-04-2006, 11:31 PM :nonod: I hate it.
:iagree:
Walk into any Walmart, take look at type of low life customer Walmart attracts :crazy: Ineffable 10-04-2006, 11:53 PM I know this thing happens all the time with other companies and they arnt the first to do it. I just hate things they do like when a town passes a law to not allow supercenters so Walmart takes them to court and drags it out till they have no more money to fight it and give up. If you arnt wanted there then DONT BUILD A STORE THERE! I know someone who is a district manager at walmart and he has told me some really crazy stuff about the policies the corporate office has and things that were obviously immoral he has had to do because he was under pressure from higher ups and his job was on the line. bumblebee 10-05-2006, 07:24 AM He who has the gold...makes the rules DLIT 10-05-2006, 07:27 AM I'm worried about getting jumped at any Walmart around here. itgirl25 10-05-2006, 09:33 AM :iagree:
Walk into any Walmart, take look at type of low life customer Walmart attracts :crazy:
i shop at walmart and I AM NOT A LOWLIFE! we can't all be rich like you, some of us hafta shop where the bargains are. Back _Marker 10-05-2006, 09:43 AM what's up with all the car jacking at wal*mart? crime rate has jumped since the new wal*mart opened up here in Clermont FL.
there was also this guy that hides underneath cars and licks women's feet in the parking lot...
-a|ex psychochild28 10-05-2006, 12:05 PM i shop at walmart and I AM NOT A LOWLIFE! we can't all be rich like you, some of us hafta shop where the bargains are.
i'm a poor college student....wal mart is to expensive for me, :lol: so it's Big Lots and Kroger for me (with that nice discount card) jeeps84 10-05-2006, 12:19 PM Its all about the money. If you need something. You spread the money around to those that can help you accomplish the goals at hand. OneSickPsycho 10-05-2006, 12:20 PM I know this thing happens all the time with other companies and they arnt the first to do it. I just hate things they do like when a town passes a law to not allow supercenters so Walmart takes them to court and drags it out till they have no more money to fight it and give up. If you arnt wanted there then DONT BUILD A STORE THERE! I know someone who is a district manager at walmart and he has told me some really crazy stuff about the policies the corporate office has and things that were obviously immoral he has had to do because he was under pressure from higher ups and his job was on the line.
Yeah they say they don't want them... then everyone shops there... People like the idea of not having a supercenter, but once it's there they all start using it... :2cents:
what's up with all the car jacking at wal*mart? crime rate has jumped since the new wal*mart opened up here in Clermont FL.
there was also this guy that hides underneath cars and licks women's feet in the parking lot...
-a|ex
That's a good idea...:leaving: TATER 10-05-2006, 12:31 PM wally world is the devil.... but i shop there sometimes so i agree with OSP no one wants it until it is there.. OneSickPsycho 10-05-2006, 12:53 PM wally world is the devil.... but i shop there sometimes so i agree with OSP no one wants it until it is there..
That's the thing... People try to teach Wal*Mart this 'lesson' by passing legislation banning them only to lose their collective a$$e$, then they start shopping there!!! If they really wanted to stick it to the man, they would allow Wal*Mart to build, then boycott... Rider 10-05-2006, 12:57 PM I dont like shopping at Walmart because, not only do the shoppers look like trailer trash, the people that work there look like trailer trash. I have no ill feeling for poor people, but come on, brush your teeth, comb your hair, take a bath, use deodorant, and wash your clothes! Have some self respect. jeeps84 10-05-2006, 01:01 PM I dont like shopping at Walmart because, not only do the shoppers look like trailer trash, the people that work there look like trailer trash. I have no ill feeling for poor people, but come on, brush your teeth, comb your hair, take a bath, use deodorant, and wash your clothes! Have some self respect.
Its obvious that lower income peps work at my local store but they are clean. Rider 10-05-2006, 01:02 PM Its obvious that lower income peps work at my local store but they are clean.
I look at it this way, if they gave up 2 cartons of smokes a month, they would have more than enough dough to properly groom themselves. jetskifast 10-05-2006, 01:14 PM i shop at walmart and I AM NOT A LOWLIFE! we can't all be rich like you, some of us hafta shop where the bargains are.
You may not be lowlife, but you enjoy shopping with lowlifes:crazy: Bet you also enjoy that happy face Walmart employee greets you with :lol: Most Walmart employee's hate working at Walmart ;)
I will gladly pay few cents more to shop without lowlifes:cheers:
Side note, Walmart has lowest average income shopper of any chain store.
Walmart making politicle payouts for its own best interest. Walmart instead of paying decent benefits and wage, counsel's employees how to have tax payer pay these benefits, with food stamps and public medical. jeeps84 10-05-2006, 01:20 PM You may not be lowlife, but you enjoy shopping with lowlifes:crazy: Bet you also enjoy that happy face Walmart employee greets you with :lol: Most Walmart employee's hate working at Walmart ;)
I will gladly pay few cents more to shop without lowlifes:cheers:
Side note, Walmart has lowest average income shopper of any chain store.
Walmart making politicle payouts for its own best interest. Walmart instead of paying decent benefits and wage, counsel's employees how to have tax payer pay these benefits, with food stamps and public medical.
Of course they have the lowest income shopper. That's their whole marketing strategy. Convince everyone they have the lowest prices and the budget shoppers will come. If you not in the low income bracket. Chances are your not worried about budget when it comes to items sold at wal-mart. jetskifast 10-05-2006, 01:42 PM Of course they have the lowest income shopper. That's their whole marketing strategy. Convince everyone they have the lowest prices and the budget shoppers will come. If you not in the low income bracket. Chances are your not worried about budget when it comes to items sold at wal-mart.
Also counter productive for poor to shop at Walmart. How do poor expect decent paying jobs, by supporting company that pays low wages, little benefits along with most of products being made in China:idk:
Those few cents you save at Walmart, add up to large bucks you loose in long run.:dthumb: jeeps84 10-05-2006, 01:44 PM Also counter productive for poor to shop at Walmart. How do poor expect decent paying jobs, by supporting company that pays low wages, little benefits along with most of products being made in China:idk:
Those few cents you save at Walmart, add up to large bucks you loose in long run.:dthumb:
That goes deeper than I'm willing to debate. I don't do them any favors when hauling their crap to their distribution centers. itgirl25 10-05-2006, 01:57 PM You may not be lowlife, but you enjoy shopping with lowlifes:crazy:
not true either. i enjoy shopping where i get the most for my $$. you are rather judgemental, aren't you? what you see when you walk into a walmart are real working class american people just trying to stretch their dollar. if you don't like walmart, don't patronize them...but don't judge those of us that do.
i am not trailer trash, i am not on welfare, i don't smoke, i have all my teeth and i live in a modest single family home. i am a stay at home mom of two kids just trying to make ends meet. thank god for walmart. they keep my kids in school clothes for cheap. condemn walmart all you want...but not those that shop there. we are but victims of the economy. Rider 10-05-2006, 02:01 PM not true either. i enjoy shopping where i get the most for my $$. you are rather judgemental, aren't you? what you see when you walk into a walmart are real working class american people just trying to stretch their dollar. if you don't like walmart, don't patronize them...but don't judge those of us that do.
i am not trailer trash, i am not on welfare, i don't smoke, i have all my teeth and i live in a modest single family home. i am a stay at home mom of two kids just trying to make ends meet. thank god for walmart. they keep my kids in school clothes for cheap. condemn walmart all you want...but not those that shop there. we are but victims of the economy.
You itgirl are one of the few that shop their that have any self dignity though. I commend you for trying to save your family some dough. :dthumb: itgirl25 10-05-2006, 02:07 PM You itgirl are one of the few that shop their that have any self dignity though. I commend you for trying to save your family some dough. :dthumb:
well, saving $$ is the name of the game right now. once i get through the nursing program and get back into a good job, then i can be a bit more selective about where i shop and what i buy. sometimes we gotta pinch our pennies so much that abe lincoln takes a poop. walmart has good values, and right now that's what we're in the market for. don't get me wrong...we are not poor or anything. just trying to maintain a comfortable living. i embrace anything that helps make that a reality for us. ShanMan14 10-05-2006, 02:09 PM we are but victims of the economy.
We minus jetski (he lives outside the economy) :wink: Rider 10-05-2006, 02:17 PM We minus jetski (he lives outside the economy) :wink:
Nice rep blocks!!!
Not everyone who shops at Walmart is trailer trash,
But everyone who is trailer trash, shops at Walmart. itgirl25 10-05-2006, 02:18 PM Nice rep blocks!!!
Not everyone who shops at Walmart is trailer trash,
But everyone who is trailer trash, shops at Walmart.
that's something i can agree with. :dthumb: jetskifast 10-05-2006, 02:24 PM don't get me wrong...we are not poor or anything. just trying to maintain a comfortable living.
I bet that $1 or $2 savings from shopping at Walmart is going to make or break you. Your support of shopping at Walmart keeping millions of Americans poor.
Good thing majority of Americans aren't like you. America would not be here if everybody had same mentality of only thinking about themselves:dthumb: neebelung 10-05-2006, 02:48 PM I bet that $1 or $2 savings from shopping at Walmart is going to make or break you.
Are you for real? It's more than a $1 or $2.
We, as a rule, buy all of our household goods (cleaning products, toilet paper, paper towels, trash bags, deoderant, toothpaste, some hardware/minor household items, etc.....) there. Their prices are SIGNIFICANTLY lower than the grocery store or drug store. (We buy food items/produce at Publix).
Not to mention have you looked at their prices on motorcycle oil filters and oil? About $3/quart savings on the oil, and $5/per filter over dealerships and Cycle Gear.
So let's see... when you add that up, x2 people (and x2 bikes) that's a substantial savings over the course of a year. Now we're not poor, nor are we starving (hey, we're fortunate enough to live in a nice house with a pool, and have not one but two 'toys' -- the bikes!), but I don't see anything wrong with being an educated consumer, and being conscious of the prices we pay for staple items for our household. itgirl25 10-05-2006, 02:52 PM I bet that $1 or $2 savings from shopping at Walmart is going to make or break you. Your support of shopping at Walmart keeping millions of Americans poor.
Good thing majority of Americans aren't like you. America would not be here if everybody had same mentality of only thinking about themselves:dthumb:
tell ya what...you give me $$ and i'll shop wherever you like. :dthumb: no, you say? well, i guess it's every person for themselves then.
i will not allow anybody to judge my self worth solely based on where i shop. neebelung 10-05-2006, 02:55 PM tell ya what...you give me $$ and i'll shop wherever you like. :dthumb: no, you say? well, i guess it's every person for themselves then.
Ya see though, even if I had unlimited funds, that doesn't mean I have to be irresponsible with them, and spend more than necessary on basic goods. :idk:
(granted, I think we're furtunate in that we have a Wally World near us that ISN'T totally white trash, and the people there do brush their teeth and hair for the most part :lol: ) itgirl25 10-05-2006, 02:57 PM Ya see though, even if I had unlimited funds, that doesn't mean I have to be irresponsible with them, and spend more than necessary on basic goods. :idk:
(granted, I think we're furtunate in that we have a Wally World near us that ISN'T totally white trash, and the people there do brush their teeth and hair for the most part :lol: )
exactly! :dthumb: Rider 10-05-2006, 03:01 PM exactly! :dthumb:
I knew that dude was in for it when he made the 1 or 2 dollar comment. :lol: neebelung 10-05-2006, 03:02 PM I knew that dude was in for it when he made the 1 or 2 dollar comment. :lol:
:lol: Yeah, that was pretty much the nail in his coffin. jetskifast 10-05-2006, 03:04 PM well, i guess it's every person for themselves then.
Its a shame American's are thinking that way these days.
America heading fast to third world status, thanks to people only looking after themselves. itgirl25 10-05-2006, 03:05 PM I knew that dude was in for it when he made the 1 or 2 dollar comment. :lol:
ya, but that's typical jetski though. i expected that kinda reaction from him. itgirl25 10-05-2006, 03:09 PM Its a shame American's are thinking that way these days.
America heading fast to third world status, thanks to people only looking after themselves.
it's a shame we hafta think that way. :nonod: nobody wants to help others anymore. it's just the decline in civilization. jetskifast 10-05-2006, 03:09 PM Are you for real? It's more than a $1 or $2.
We, as a rule, buy all of our household goods (cleaning products, toilet paper, paper towels, trash bags, deoderant, toothpaste, some hardware/minor household items, etc.....) there. Their prices are SIGNIFICANTLY lower than the grocery store or drug store. (We buy food items/produce at Publix).
Not to mention have you looked at their prices on motorcycle oil filters and oil? About $3/quart savings on the oil, and $5/per filter over dealerships and Cycle Gear.
So let's see... when you add that up, x2 people (and x2 bikes) that's a substantial savings over the course of a year. Now we're not poor, nor are we starving (hey, we're fortunate enough to live in a nice house with a pool, and have not one but two 'toys' -- the bikes!), but I don't see anything wrong with being an educated consumer, and being conscious of the prices we pay for staple items for our household.
Other stores give you same savings over Walmart:dthumb:
Like dealership or Cycle gear are good examples for prices :lol: neebelung 10-05-2006, 03:12 PM Other stores give you same savings over Walmart:dthumb:
Like dealership or Cycle gear are good examples for prices :lol:
Well please, almighty educated consumer, if there are convenient places that consistently give savings on the items mentioned, over the pricing at Wal-mart, then by all means, SHARE them with us so that we, too, can shop there.
As Wal-mart over Cycle Gear or dealerships, well let's see.... what else IS there? :lol:
You're quite full of problems, but not real good with offering solutions! jetskifast 10-05-2006, 03:15 PM it's a shame we hafta think that way. :nonod: nobody wants to help others anymore. it's just the decline in civilization.
:iagree:
Still places around that have people looking after each other:dthumb:
My second home on San Juan island Wa will not let Walmart open on island.
Guess what everybody happy to shop at Mom and Pop stores. No crime, very little unemployment everybody friendly to each other:dthumb: Just like rest of America used to be 20 years ago. Rider 10-05-2006, 03:18 PM :iagree:
Still places around that have people looking after each other:dthumb:
My second home on San Juan island Wa will not let Walmart open on island.
Guess what everybody happy to shop at Mom and Pop stores. No crime, very little unemployment everybody friendly to each other:dthumb: Just like rest of America used to be 20 years ago.
That is not the same. I have been to Friday Harbor and Rouch Harbor. Not your typical little towns. No way Walmart would EVER survive there. Those are tourist areas. jetskifast 10-05-2006, 03:19 PM Well please, almighty educated consumer, if there are convenient places that consistently give savings on the items mentioned, over the pricing at Wal-mart, then by all means, SHARE them with us so that we, too, can shop there.
As Wal-mart over Cycle Gear or dealerships, well let's see.... what else IS there? :lol:
You're quite full of problems, but not real good with offering solutions!
Buy my oil at Kragen for .59 cents QT. Can get Mobil 1 at Costco cheaper than Walmart. Large stores such as Safeway, Target have sales that beat Walmart to just name a few. neebelung 10-05-2006, 03:19 PM ya, but that's typical jetski though. i expected that kinda reaction from him.
Ahhh, I'm not familiar enough with him to know that..... good to know. :dthumb: neebelung 10-05-2006, 03:21 PM :iagree:
Still places around that have people looking after each other:dthumb:
My second home on San Juan island Wa will not let Walmart open on island.
Guess what everybody happy to shop at Mom and Pop stores. No crime, very little unemployment everybody friendly to each other:dthumb: Just like rest of America used to be 20 years ago.
And that's wonderful, and if I lived in a small community like that, I'd probably be fine shopping at mom & pop shops, too. Fact is, I don't, and mom & pop shops, for the most part, don't exist.
But to make the suggestion that Wal-mart is the root of all evil, and the cause of crime, etc.... is a WEE BIT of a leap. :dthumb: neebelung 10-05-2006, 03:23 PM Buy my oil at Kragen for .59 cents QT. Can get Mobil 1 at Costco cheaper than Walmart. Large stores such as Safeway, Target have sales that beat Walmart to just name a few.
1.) Any $0.59 oil isn't coming anywhere near my JEEP, let alone my bike. :lol:
2.) Costco is the same damned thing as Sam's Club, which, gee, is just a big giant Wal-mart. So you just blew your WHOLE argument out of the water there.
3.) Publix is our major food chain here, and no, their prices on household goods are not better. Target - ah, they're COMPARABLE on some things, but higher on others (I do shop at Target as well for the household items, so I HAVE done my research to know this for a fact). But again, funny to me that you'll shop at Target, but not Wal-mart... they're pretty much the same thing, just that Target's nicer. :dthumb: Back _Marker 10-05-2006, 03:25 PM You itgirl are one of the few that shop their that have any self dignity though. I commend you for trying to save your family some dough. :dthumb:
I shop at wal*mart too... It p*sses me off to find the same items I bought at the mall for 20% less at wal*mart.
-a|ex jetskifast 10-05-2006, 03:25 PM And that's wonderful, and if I lived in a small community like that, I'd probably be fine shopping at mom & pop shops, too. Fact is, I don't, and mom & pop shops, for the most part, don't exist.
But to make the suggestion that Wal-mart is the root of all evil, and the cause of crime, etc.... is a WEE BIT of a leap. :dthumb:
Try raising family on Walmart pay without medical insurance, you may become evil.
Also look at all the jobs Walmart forces to China.
What do you think happens to people who's jobs are now in Chian???? jetskifast 10-05-2006, 03:28 PM 1.) Any $0.59 oil isn't coming anywhere near my JEEP, let alone my bike. :lol:
2.) Costco is the same damned thing as Sam's Club, which, gee, is just a big giant Wal-mart. So you just blew your WHOLE argument out of the water there.
3.) Publix is our major food chain here, and no, their prices on household goods are not better. Target - ah, they're COMPARABLE on some things, but higher on others (I do shop at Target as well for the household items, so I HAVE done my research to know this for a fact). But again, funny to me that you'll shop at Target, but not Wal-mart... they're pretty much the same thing, just that Target's nicer. :dthumb:
You must not use Chevron, Quaker state or Valveline oil.
Costco happens to be Union gives all employee's good pay with health insurance and stock purchase plans. Its no Sam's club.
Try again:dthumb: jeeps84 10-05-2006, 03:30 PM Target is the new K-Mart or Big K neebelung 10-05-2006, 03:30 PM Try raising family on Walmart pay without medical insurance, you may become evil.
Also look at all the jobs Walmart forces to China.
What do you think happens to people who's jobs are now in Chian????
Ok, now you're opening up a whole other can of worms...
Alright NOT to criticize anyone who works at Wal-mart, as I'm happy for ANYONE to have a job of ANY kind over taking public assistance (or at least in addition to public assistance, if it's still needed).....BUT....
There are decisions we all make throghout our lives, to get an education, to better ourselves, so that we don't HAVE to take that job at Wal-mart, so that we CAN afford to have health insurance for our families. I made those decisions, as did you, I'd assume. Rider 10-05-2006, 03:32 PM You must not use Chevron, Quaker state or Valveline oil.
Costco happens to be Union gives all employee's good pay with health insurance and stock purchase plans. Its no Sam's club.
Try again:dthumb:
I have to agree with you on that one. Costco is great. neebelung 10-05-2006, 03:32 PM You must not use Chevron, Quaker state or Valveline oil.
Costco happens to be Union gives all employee's good pay with health insurance and stock purchase plans. Its no Sam's club.
Try again:dthumb:
Well if you'd pick one argument and stick with it, maybe I'd continue to play along... but you keep changing your position (I mean what is it you TRULY don't like about Wal-mart... first it's that only lowlife's shop there, then it's that it's some huge mass market place, and not a mom-n-pop-shop, then it's that their employees can't afford insurance).... Ok, we get it, you don't like it... so don't shop there! :lol: No skin of my nose, and CERTAINLY none of Sam Walton's. But until you can form a (as in ONE) solid argument and stick with it for more than one post, I have no time for you. :dthumb: neebelung 10-05-2006, 03:33 PM I have to agree with you on that one. Costco is great.
:idk: I just don't frequent any of the giant warehouse stores... never found enough stuff we needed in bulk to justify it. Rider 10-05-2006, 03:35 PM :idk: I just don't frequent any of the giant warehouse stores... never found enough stuff we needed in bulk to justify it.
He is right about it being union and them paying well and offer a great medical plan. jeeps84 10-05-2006, 03:36 PM :idk: I just don't frequent any of the giant warehouse stores... never found enough stuff we needed in bulk to justify it.
Same here! OneSickPsycho 10-05-2006, 11:06 PM You may not be lowlife, but you enjoy shopping with lowlifes:crazy: Bet you also enjoy that happy face Walmart employee greets you with :lol: Most Walmart employee's hate working at Walmart ;)
I will gladly pay few cents more to shop without lowlifes:cheers:
Side note, Walmart has lowest average income shopper of any chain store.
Walmart making politicle payouts for its own best interest. Walmart instead of paying decent benefits and wage, counsel's employees how to have tax payer pay these benefits, with food stamps and public medical.
That's right... poor people are all scum... Since they don't have money and some don't bathe as frequently as we would like them to, then are substandard human beings...
And as far as not liking where you work... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Cry me a river... You don't like where you work, go find another job. You get paid minimum wage because you have no skills and you hate working at Wal*Mart... Guess what, McDonalds is always hiring... they will hire you... Then you can cry about how you hate that job... Welcome to the party pal, work f*cking sucks...:cry: Yeah and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to milk the system to get the tax payers to pay your way...
not true either. i enjoy shopping where i get the most for my $$. you are rather judgemental, aren't you? what you see when you walk into a walmart are real working class american people just trying to stretch their dollar. if you don't like walmart, don't patronize them...but don't judge those of us that do.
i am not trailer trash, i am not on welfare, i don't smoke, i have all my teeth and i live in a modest single family home. i am a stay at home mom of two kids just trying to make ends meet. thank god for walmart. they keep my kids in school clothes for cheap. condemn walmart all you want...but not those that shop there. we are but victims of the economy.
:clap:
I bet that $1 or $2 savings from shopping at Walmart is going to make or break you. Your support of shopping at Walmart keeping millions of Americans poor.
Good thing majority of Americans aren't like you. America would not be here if everybody had same mentality of only thinking about themselves:dthumb:
:wbs:
:iagree:
Still places around that have people looking after each other:dthumb:
My second home on San Juan island Wa will not let Walmart open on island.
Guess what everybody happy to shop at Mom and Pop stores. No crime, very little unemployment everybody friendly to each other:dthumb: Just like rest of America used to be 20 years ago.
It's only fitting that a guy with more than one house is blasting people who shop at a place that offers lower prices... Nice.
Further, find me a high crime area with a population under 10,000 and I will sell you the Brooklyn Bridge... And BTW, current national unemployment rate is extremely low... are some places lower than others, of course... The overall picture remains a FANTASTIC ~4.75%.
You must not use Chevron, Quaker state or Valveline oil.
Costco happens to be Union gives all employee's good pay with health insurance and stock purchase plans. Its no Sam's club.
Try again:dthumb:
I think unions are outdated for the most part... You don't like your job, go find another... you don't think the employer is treating you fairly, leave... go elsewhere... People have options these days... It's not go to the local factory and work there for the rest of your life like it used to be... We are no longer living in an economy that is locally based or even national... we have to compete on a global scale... You don't like it? Move to the moon... itgirl25 10-06-2006, 07:11 AM :clap: good response OSP! :thx1: Rider 10-06-2006, 07:16 AM And BTW, current national unemployment rate is extremely low... are some places lower than others, of course... The overall picture remains a FANTASTIC ~4.75%.
We have of 7% unemployment here in MI and people still dont want to work at WallMart. Go Figure.:idk: Of course I think most people in MI are lazy azzez. neebelung 10-06-2006, 07:18 AM :clap: good response OSP! :thx1:
:iagree: You rock! DLIT 10-06-2006, 07:23 AM This thread went to http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/DLIT_2006/thhate-spal.gif neebelung 10-06-2006, 07:24 AM This thread went to http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/DLIT_2006/thhate-spal.gif
:scratch: How so? It was a lively and informative debate... nothing wrong with that! DLIT 10-06-2006, 07:26 AM :scratch: How so? It was a lively and informative debate... nothing wrong with that!
Yeah, in your eyes. Having no part, I see it different. This thread is just gonna go on and on and it's gonna be a debate nobody wins. Jet's too proud to admit you guys are right. neebelung 10-06-2006, 07:30 AM Yeah, in your eyes. Having no part, I see it different. This thread is just gonna go on and on and it's gonna be a debate nobody wins. Jet's too proud to admit you guys are right.
:idk: I think it's over and done with for the most part. I think everyone's said their part. DLIT 10-06-2006, 07:32 AM :idk: I think it's over and done with for the most part. I think everyone's said their part.
It's all good. I was just throwing my http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/DLIT_2006/common078.gif and raising the count at the same time. neebelung 10-06-2006, 07:33 AM It's all good. I was just throwing my http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/DLIT_2006/common078.gif and raising the count at the same time.
:lol: :whore: OneSickPsycho 10-06-2006, 10:51 AM We have of 7% unemployment here in MI and people still dont want to work at WallMart. Go Figure.:idk: Of course I think most people in MI are lazy azzez.
That's right, they'd rather not work than work... 7% is pretty high though, so options are not as good as other places... The thing is, there are still options... What's funny about the whole arguement is that people fail to realize that cashiers and shelf stockers are the bottom line entry level positions... jobs that can be found almost anywhere... The kind of job that's perfect for high school kids... You want to make more money, you need skills... You want skills, put yourself 10's of thousands of dollars in debt and go to college... That's what I'm doing... itgirl25 10-06-2006, 11:11 AM jetski has a negative rep block. that's the first one of those i've seen so far. how cool is that!! :dthumb:
:neen: :moon: neebelung 10-06-2006, 11:14 AM jetski has a negative rep block. that's the first one of those i've seen so far. how cool is that!! :dthumb:
:neen: :moon:
:yikes: WHOAH.... nearly 1500 posts, and yet he managed to get enough NEGATIVE reps to cancel out the default 10 positive ones? itgirl25 10-06-2006, 11:16 AM :yikes: WHOAH.... nearly 1500 posts, and yet he managed to get enough NEGATIVE reps to cancel out the default 10 positive ones?
probably got most of 'em from this thread alone. i know i blessed him with neg. feedback. neebelung 10-06-2006, 11:19 AM probably got most of 'em from this thread alone. i know i blessed him with neg. feedback.
(I might have as well... :wink: )
Opinions are one thing, but personal attacks don't fly with me. Rider 10-06-2006, 12:20 PM probably got most of 'em from this thread alone. i know i blessed him with neg. feedback.
:nkick: Good job itgirl. jetskifast 10-06-2006, 11:01 PM probably got most of 'em from this thread alone. i know i blessed him with neg. feedback.
Hope it made your day with me being blessed with your neg feedback. I could careless about my feedback from hurt feelings posters:dthumb:
I could follow the sheep, post what everybody wants to hear to make friends.
Lets face it we have Indians and Chiefs in this world, thank god I am Chief:cheers: You as Indian must have high feedback and shop at Walmart:scratch:
Facts are facts, if you support company such as Walmart who supports sending good American jobs to China, pay low wages without health insurance, have HR department direct employee's to tax payer paid medical and food stamps. While Walmart profit is in $Billions good for you.:cheers:
I bet you would be proud if your kids goals in life was to work at Walmart:scratch: OneSickPsycho 10-06-2006, 11:16 PM Hope it made your day with me being blessed with your neg feedback. I could careless about my feedback from hurt feelings posters:dthumb:
I could follow the sheep, post what everybody wants to hear to make friends.
Lets face it we have Indians and Chiefs in this world, thank god I am Chief:cheers: You as Indian must have high feedback and shop at Walmart:scratch:
Facts are facts, if you support company such as Walmart who supports sending good Anerican jobs to China, pay low wages without health insurance, have HR department direct employee's to tax payer paid medical and food stamps. While Walmart profit is in $Billions good for you.:cheers:
I bet you would be proud if your kids goals in life was to work at Walmart:scratch:
:nopity:
I would hope a Chief would be a good leader... Someone who could sway the masses with an intelligent argument refuting what others have stated rather than lashing out with utterless drivel... :idk: Maybe that's just me...
Not to mention the hipocrisy of someone blabbing about sending jobs overseas when he himself owns at least one foreign made vehicle...:dthumb:
Then again, what do I know... I am just a stupid indian...:bonk: Back _Marker 10-06-2006, 11:50 PM Facts are facts, if you support company such as Walmart who supports sending good American jobs to China, pay low wages without health insurance, have HR department direct employee's to tax payer paid medical and food stamps. While Walmart profit is in $Billions good for you.:cheers:
I bet you would be proud if your kids goals in life was to work at Walmart:scratch:
name one fortune 500 company that doesn't... a corporation is all about making the executives fat at the expense of it's laborers. i've lost a good paying job at bell labs (downsizing), but that doesn't mean i would never purchase their products.
look at the govt., they're no angel either. sounds like you want to live in a bubble. when UPS went public, customer service dropped and employee benifits started to suffer. they also closed down their call centers and laid off 80% of their I.T. staff with no option to fill other job openings. but we still use UPS, eh?
err, did you buy an american made bike? did you know japanese big businesses also underpay their laborers?
In your opinion, name some companies that you admire. I bet I can find some evil deeds with them. Did you know that german car makers is a haven for nazi's? wonder why jews like to purchase them... hmmm.
There's no shame in being a wal*mart shopper, or using microsoft products. Life goes on...
-a|ex jetskifast 10-06-2006, 11:51 PM :nopity:
Not to mention the hipocrisy of someone blabbing about sending jobs overseas when he himself owns at least one foreign made vehicle...:dthumb:
Then again, what do I know... I am just a stupid indian...:bonk:
Indian care to compare Germany to China workers :lol:
Germany pays workers very well, gives better benefits above American workers. German products sell in America because engineering leads the world.
Americans pay a premium for advanced engineering, unlike China.
China, pays workers cents on the hour without benefits. China copies products to steal America jobs.
Make you feel happy most good paying American manufacturing jobs are heading to 10 cent hour China workers?????????????????
See why poor Americans shopping at Walmart are only cutting thier own throats:whistle: jetskifast 10-06-2006, 11:57 PM name one fortune 500 company that doesn't... a corporation is all about making the executives fat at the expense of it's laborers. i've lost a good paying job at bell labs (downsizing), but that doesn't mean i would never purchase their products.
look at the govt., they're no angel either. sounds like you want to live in a bubble. when UPS went public, customer service dropped and employee benifits started to suffer. they also closed down their call centers and laid off 80% of their I.T. staff with no option to fill other job openings. but we still use UPS, eh?
err, did you buy an american made bike? did you know japanese big businesses also underpay their laborers?
In your opinion, name some companies that you admire. I bet I can find some evil deeds with them. Did you know that german car makers is a haven for nazi's? wonder why jews like to purchase them... hmmm.
There's no shame in being a wal*mart shopper, or using microsoft products. Life goes on...
-a|ex
Since Walmart thread.
Lets see if anybody has anything bad to say how Costco treats its employee's:dthumb:
Costco turns very nice profit with high stock price.
Costco offers nice wage, health insurance for all, stock option plan, plus everybody seems happy when you visit a Costco unlike Walmart. OneSickPsycho 10-07-2006, 01:04 AM Indian care to compare Germany to China workers :lol:
Germany pays workers very well, gives better benefits above American workers. German products sell in America because engineering leads the world.
Americans pay a premium for advanced engineering, unlike China.
China, pays workers cents on the hour without benefits. China copies products to steal America jobs.
Make you feel happy most good paying American manufacturing jobs are heading to 10 cent hour China workers?????????????????
See why poor Americans shopping at Walmart are only cutting thier own throats:whistle:
China vs. Germany... Apples and oranges...
The bottom line is China is an over-populated industrial behemoth that has an economy that is growing by 10% a year... Find me a place with 1 Billion+ people and such economic growth that doesn't have an intensely competitive job market... Go ahead... try...
Now plug in the fact that we are living in a global economy where we are forced to compete with them... whether we want to or not... Therein lies the problem... And here are our options:
1)Keep all the manufacturing jobs here in the States and lose our collective asses in the global market. Get left in the dust by other countries who will shift their economic focuses away from manufacturing and move towards services and technilogical development.
2)Become one of those countries who adapt to the fact that China is not going away anytime soon and try to shift our attention to how we can manipulate that to our advantage on a broad scale... ie. start using our brains and stop using our backs.
A more fair comparison of labor forces would be that of Germany and the United States... (as pulled from Wikipedia)
Germany's labor force: services (71.9%), industry (25.9%), agriculture (2.2%)
United States labor force: managerial and professional (31.1%), technical, sales and administrative support (28.6%), services (14.1%), manufacturing, mining, transportation, and crafts (23.7%), farming, forestry, and fishing (2.5%)
Germany's GDP by sector: agriculture (1.1%), industry (28.6%), services (70.3%)
United States GDP by sector: agriculture (0.9%), industry (19.7%), services (79.4%)
Funny how our stats are similar with one exception... Unemployment rates...
Germany: 12.1% (Jan '06)
United States: 4.6% (Aug '06)
So yeah, really cutting our own throats by adapting to the global market... Sorry pal, but it's not the '50s anymore... The United States can no longer be competitive in manufacturing... You can wish in one hand, crap in the other, but no matter how much you cry about it... You're gonna end up with a handful of crap and nothing else...
In closing... CONGRATULATIONS! :dthumb:
Now if there is any other arguments you would like me to shut down for you, I am finished watching Return of the Living Dead and will be adjourning to bed because I have to work in the AM. You'll have to wait to be wrong another day... OneSickPsycho 10-07-2006, 01:06 AM Since Walmart thread.
Lets see if anybody has anything bad to say how Costco treats its employee's:dthumb:
Costco turns very nice profit with high stock price.
Costco offers nice wage, health insurance for all, stock option plan, plus everybody seems happy when you visit a Costco unlike Walmart.
And damn Wal*Mart for forcing people to work there... itgirl25 10-07-2006, 07:12 AM :yaewn: i'm :leaving:. i have too much dignity to keep arguing with jetski.
PS. i live in hanover, PA. we have no costco anywhere near us! walmart is the only department store in the area, without spending extra dollars in gas to drive 20 min. to york to pay more at target for what i can get just around the corner. :bonk:
jetski...why don't you run for president so i can vote against you. you must be a republican.
hail to the chief! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Back _Marker 10-07-2006, 12:05 PM Since Walmart thread.
Lets see if anybody has anything bad to say how Costco treats its employee's:dthumb:
Costco turns very nice profit with high stock price.
Costco offers nice wage, health insurance for all, stock option plan, plus everybody seems happy when you visit a Costco unlike Walmart.
Unless you work I.T.
Costco contracts 75% of their programmers to India. Well, I should be more specific. Costco partners with US Technology which hires India based programmers. Costco's I.T. employee goal is to have a ratio of 1:5 (one US manager to 5 employees from India) I expect this ratio to increase, considering it first started out as 1:2, then grew to 1:3.
In this article, Costco makes it sound like they didn't outsource: On the surface, they hire american laborers. behind the scenes, U.S. jobs are outsourced to the cheapest contracts.
http://searchcio.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid19_gci1080812,00.html
This is typical of all fortune 500 companies.
-a|ex Captain Morgan 10-07-2006, 03:07 PM :yaewn: i'm :leaving:. i have too much dignity to keep arguing with jetski.
Most people end up saying the exact same thing due to non-sequiter arguments and antagonistic posting. OneSickPsycho 10-07-2006, 03:53 PM jetski...why don't you run for president so i can vote against you. you must be a republican.
hail to the chief! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Actually I was thinking since he was so concerned about workers rights and jobs going overseas that he is probably a hardcore liberal... That would coincide with where he lives pretty well too...
Most people end up saying the exact same thing due to non-sequiter arguments and antagonistic posting.
It's just so much fun proving someone wrong... It's like wrestling a pig... you both get dirty, but the pig LIKES it!
I... happen to be a pig. TATER 10-07-2006, 10:36 PM i don't agree with jetskifast but i do like to stoke the fire as well as calm the mood with a laugh... so here we go
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