Who Takes The 14 Over The Busa And Why

From My Experince Kawaski Has Fu$%^d Up Again By Making Another Bike To Bulky And Heavy To Take Out A Busa. Didnt They Learn From The Zx12. I Have Heard A Lot About Busa Killers Now I Wanna Hear Some Other Peoples Oulook On This Subject

Well theyre really close bikes as far as size goes....Alot of people have busa's if you want somethin different you would probably look at the 14...1299 v 1352 < anyone else remember that that was a popular mod to busa's a + 53cc build up. Other than what anyone wants to belive this could just be a nagging match. To each is their own Buy what you want.

Other than what anyone wants to belive this could just be a nagging match. To each is their own Buy what you want. :iagree:

I saw a drag between the ZX-14 and a 'Busa. The ZX-14 won. I know it all has to do with the rider, but I think the riders were pretty equal.

I saw a drag between the ZX-14 and a 'Busa. The ZX-14 won. I know it all has to do with the rider, but I think the riders were pretty equal. Its a Kaw... they are killer on the drag strip!

completly stock, the same rider is faster on a 14 by a tenth or so, but no racer ever leaves his bike stock, so id go with a busa (and eventually i will), atleast until the performace aftermarket availability for the 14 catches up to the busa. but supposedly the busa is gettin a big makeover, so basically this is a topic that can go on forever. if you dont wana go faster than 8.90, id say buy whichever one looks the best to you, cuz itll cost about the same to get either bike there.(pipe, powercommander, lowered, sprockets,) my :2cents:

I'm not a fan of either but I'll take the busa over the 14 by looks alone. zukboy, where are you at?

Is that a pic of you on some Iraqi guy's scooter, in your avatar? :lol:

Is that a pic of you on some Iraqi guy's scooter, in your avatar? :lol: That's an Iraqi R1 :whistle:

I wouldnt take either one as they both are ugly as hell. :2cents:

:lol: That's an Iraqi R1 :whistle:

That's an Iraqi R1 :whistle: good one the funnt thing is it had a bmw emblem on the front i had to get a picture of that

I'm not a fan of either but I'll take the busa over the 14 by looks alone. zukboy, where are you at? been at the range for the last two weeks

been at the range for the last two weeks where in Iraq are you at :bonk:

this video seemed to imply that both bikes are relatively equal I doubt any mortal riders could tell the difference. http://youtube.com/watch?v=oqnki25uVpg

I have ridin both and my vote goes to the Busa. The simple fact that the difference in these bike is a tenth off makes it easy for me to choose. Close to 100cc difference between both of them and the Kawai is faster by a tenth? Thats not a real good sales pitch. Plus we all know the Busa has more lurking in Suzukis r-n-d.:2cents:

I wouldnt take either one as they both are ugly as hell. :2cents: You are correct, sir. http://www.tvenvy.com/blogimages/ed_macmahon.jpg

I wouldnt take either one as they both are ugly as hell. :2cents: I think the 14 is awful looking cuz i dont like the plain plastic look of the bike. Really dont see how anybody could not like the busa tho except maybe for the fact that there are so many on the streets.

I think both are great looking and both could be deadly on the drag strip with some mods but even with tweeking the 14 has been dominating and with the help of roaring toyz and other custom shops has even passed the ugly duck phase just my two:2cents: :twfrox: :twfrox:

I think both are great looking and both could be deadly on the drag strip with some mods but even with tweeking the 14 has been dominating and with the help of roaring toyz and other custom shops has even passed the ugly duck phase just my two:2cents: :twfrox: :twfrox: :iagree: but only with 1 cent.

I have ridden both the busa and the 14, the 14 consistently pulls hard through all 6 gears and with the box available through Schnitz you can remove the limiters in the first 4 gears and the 14 far out performs the busa. The 14 doesn't look that nice but the busa looks like an overweight cafe racer. The 14 is in it's first year and it is already ahead of the busa, now suzuki will be playing catch up while Kawi continues to improve the 14. :bash:

i take a suzuki over kawi anyday

i take a suzuki over kawi anyday Hell yes.

Really dont see how anybody could not like the busa tho except maybe for the fact that there are so many on the streets. Sorry, but the busa is ugly. The 14 is definitely a lot worse though. BTW, there are a ton of people that think the Busa is an ugly piece of trash and if given a free Busa would sell it immediately to buy another bike.

Sorry, but the busa is ugly. The 14 is definitely a lot worse though. BTW, there are a ton of people that think the Busa is an ugly piece of trash and if given a free Busa would sell it immediately to buy another bike. :withstupi Both are ugly as hell and I wouldnt own one if given to me for free. The 14 is faster but I hear rumors the Busa is jumping to a 1500cc motor.

:iagree: both are fast and I don't want either one

I'll Rather Look Into A Repsol And Or The Yamaha R1 Le

Sorry, but the busa is ugly. The 14 is definitely a lot worse though. BTW, there are a ton of people that think the Busa is an ugly piece of trash and if given a free Busa would sell it immediately to buy another bike. I agree with this statement 110%. I would immediately sell that ugly POS.

technology wise the 14 is way ahead of the game.... but i would wanna see the busa's final revision before i bought a 14..... The 14 is sup[possed to be much easier to launch hard... andthats hwat these bikes do so i'd pick it for now if i was going to buy a 06 or 07..... maybe the busa will get its first updated at the 10 year mark for its anniversary

I think it will depend on what type of riding you will do with the bike but everyone knows it's the rider not the ride. the better question is when is yamaha going to get on the band wagon and how come no one gives credit to the blackbird any more

the blackbird is way out of spec now comparitively. I think we will see Honda jump back in with a new big CC bike to shoot for top speed beofre we will see Yamahas first.

the blackbird is way out of spec now comparitively. I think we will see Honda jump back in with a new big CC bike to shoot for top speed beofre we will see Yamahas first. You might have something there. :2cents:

From My Experince Kawaski Has Fu$%^d Up Again By Making Another Bike To Bulky And Heavy To Take Out A Busa. Didnt They Learn From The Zx12. I Have Heard A Lot About Busa Killers Now I Wanna Hear Some Other Peoples Oulook On This Subject :2cents: Both bikes are fugly:2cents:

the blackbird is way out of spec now comparitively. I think we will see Honda jump back in with a new big CC bike to shoot for top speed beofre we will see Yamahas first. I would love to see that I am a fan of the blackbird but I guess I am a huge fan of all two wheeled vehicles.

i h8 both, there ugly as sin. Not a real Suz or Kawi fan but id prollly take the Zuki over the 14. I think all the brands should duke it out in the GT class.

Has anyone noticed that no Hypersport bike is actually good looking???:crazy: One would think they would make their big bad bikes actually something to look at, but anyways, I'd rather go for a litre or 750 anytime. Gixxer ofcourse!!!!

hmmm, i may be waaay off base, but I am attracted to pretty much anything on 2 wheels...not the rider, the ride :skep: I guess i just dont notice what ya'll think is ugliness...:idk:

In my totally biased opinion, I'll take the 14. Got some friends who have owned both, and they prefer the 14. Plus I'm a Kawi guy anyway. Once I get rid of some of this debt, I will prob get a 14 for 2-up ridin and longer trips. (but still keeping the 10) :2cents:

I'll Rather Look Into A Repsol And Or The Yamaha R1 Le I'd sell your body to prostitution for a LE:drool:

i agree on them looking good, i htink they are both awesome. Everytime a new design car or bike comes out it is picked at every curve, but then everyone buys a bike just like it in the future. Every new model truck comes out, ppl hate it then go buy one in a week. Look at hte newly squared fords, the Honda Element... a perfect example is the new Toyota FJ Cruiser. One of you(at a minimum) that S#!t talks the 14 or busa wi8ll one day own one of em.

:2cents: Both bikes are fugly:2cents: :iagree: :dthumb: Has anyone noticed that no Hypersport bike is actually good looking???:crazy: One would think they would make their big bad bikes actually something to look at, but anyways, I'd rather go for a litre or 750 anytime. Gixxer ofcourse!!!! A wise Newb.:cheers:

will have more pics once the bike is finished don't want the haters out the to see any more than this keep lookin

i agree on them looking good, i htink they are both awesome. Everytime a new design car or bike comes out it is picked at every curve, but then everyone buys a bike just like it in the future. Every new model truck comes out, ppl hate it then go buy one in a week. Look at hte newly squared fords, the Honda Element... a perfect example is the new Toyota FJ Cruiser. One of you(at a minimum) that S#!t talks the 14 or busa wi8ll one day own one of em. I like the busa and the 14 I am a sucker for bikes but the FJ cruiser...:nonod:

I takes about 2600 in mods by a local speed shop to make a busa comparable to a 14. And when you do similiar mods to a 14 there is no comparison. There are guys already running 8.8's@154 on 14 with a motor that has not change cam or compression. Stretch them, lower them, pipe and powercommander, strap the front and add a sticky tire and gear up front. The low end of the 14 is incredible when you pull the butterflies out of the 14. It's amazing how they jump right into your stomach when you do:lol:

I believe anyone who rides a 14 or a busa will concede that a 14 with minor mods is faster than a busa with the same mods. But it is significant the difference in speed. You have to add compression and cams to make it on par with a 14

$2600 in mods to compete with a 14, I will gladly do the service work on your bike at that price. My Busa doesnt have near that much and my friends 14 has not taken me yet.

im a kawi man take a 14 any day.

I'm with Rae I like just about anything on two wheels... but some bikes are more appealing than others I'd take the 14 because of the tech. I just have never really liked the busa for some odd reason... guess I'm just tired of seeing them...

to say $2600 in mods on a busa vs. $2600 on a 14 is tarded simply for the fact that the 14 has 50+ cc's on the busa. now bore a busa to 1350+ cc's and throw $2600 on it and a s*** rider would smoke a 14 anyday.

to say $2600 in mods on a busa vs. $2600 on a 14 is tarded simply for the fact that the 14 has 50+ cc's on the busa. now bore a busa to 1350+ cc's and throw $2600 on it and a s*** rider would smoke a 14 anyday. smoke a 14 w/$2600 worth of mods.

smoke a 14 w/$2600 worth of mods. there's not the same size aftermarket... AND the 14 is still a new bike so parts are still expensive... give it a couple years like the busa's aftermarket

there's not the same size aftermarket... AND the 14 is still a new bike so parts are still expensive... give it a couple years like the busa's aftermarket the 14 hit 201mph top speed with $1500 worth of aftermarket parts when it came out. the busa had no limiter on 99-02 and with a simple sproket change could pass that easy. zuki(99-02) vs. kawi(06-07)

the 14 hit 201mph top speed with $1500 worth of aftermarket parts when it came out. the busa had no limiter on 99-02 and with a simple sproket change could pass that easy. zuki(99-02) vs. kawi(06-07) but what I'm saying is that to mod the 14 it's going to cost more because the bike is new... just like if you Mod a brand new 07 R6 given 2600 and do the same to an 05 R6 and you'll get more for your money for the 05. I don't know much about either but I'm sure you'd have two pretty even bikes :2cents:

but what I'm saying is that to mod the 14 it's going to cost more because the bike is new... just like if you Mod a brand new 07 R6 given 2600 and do the same to an 05 R6 and you'll get more for your money for the 05. I don't know much about either but I'm sure you'd have two pretty even bikes :2cents: i know friend. all i was pointing out is that your right, if you had the same amount of money to spend for each bike, you would get less for the 14 but, what i'm saying is that it takes less MODS for the busa to go faster than the 14 and before anyone else says anything, these bikes were built for speed not drag racing.when it comes to drag its all about your set up and tuning.

i know friend. all i was pointing out is that your right, if you had the same amount of money to spend for each bike, you would get less for the 14 but, what i'm saying is that it takes less MODS for the busa to go faster than the 14 and before anyone else says anything, these bikes were built for speed not drag racing.when it comes to drag its all about your set up and tuning. Oh I know I just wanted to hear it again :lol::dthumb:

you must also rember the haybusa was built to be a crusier like the katana that why it is called the gsx 1300 then the r at the end it was orignally built to be the son of the katana but the 14 is a bike built to race out of the factory and there is a lot of interal mods that the busa has yet to change to bring it to its full capability to be full pledge race bike

you must also rember the haybusa was built to be a crusier like the katana that why it is called the gsx 1300 then the r at the end it was orignally built to be the son of the katana but the 14 is a bike built to race out of the factory and there is a lot of interal mods that the busa has yet to change to bring it to its full capability to be full pledge race bike :scratch: ...I'm afraid it is called a gsxr 1300. at least yesterday at the dealer that is what was all over it... As they say, it ain't bragging if it's true. So when we claim that the Suzuki Hayabusa GSXR1300 is the fastest production bike on the planet, we're merely stating the facts. It is, pure and simple, an engineering masterpiece that turns advanced technology and aerodynamic design into unmatched performance. But that's not all, in addition to the incredible performance you get from the Hayabusa, you also get an extra large serving of style. The sleek, long, low look of the Hayabusa is unique in the motorcycling world and is sure to turn heads wherever you choose to ride.

I dont think a busa was built to be a cruiser, I am pretty sure the 180mph+ bike in my garage is not a cruiser, if it is I would love to ride what you call a SPORTBIKE.

:scratch: ...I'm afraid it is called a gsxr 1300. at least yesterday at the dealer that is what was all over it... Thats GSX1300R. Not sure why it has the R designation, its not a race bike. Ever see one in WSBK? No because it cant corner for sh*t. Sure it can do 180+ but how fun is that. I mean, you could gear a Cadilac to do 180 too but is that really fun?

Thats GSX1300R. Not sure why it has the R designation, its not a race bike. Ever see one in WSBK? No because it cant corner for sh*t. Sure it can do 180+ but how fun is that. I mean, you could gear a Cadilac to do 180 too but is that really fun? check around.....everywhere I have seen and on the brochure book it is gsxr 1300. that quote is from the brochure.

check around.....everywhere I have seen and on the brochure book it is gsxr 1300. that quote is from the brochure. www.suzuki.com look it up! Even better http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/GSX1300RK7/Default.aspx Scroll to the last sentence on the page. It even says GSX1300R on the bike.

www.suzuki.com look it up! geez looking at the brochure right now.....:idk: says gsxR1300..... :lol: anyways we still prove that the dood is incorrect in the fact that it doesn't have an R designation. :dthumb:

the actual bike says GSX1300R , not GSXR1300... not one bike... at least up to 06' was a R1300....and none of it really makes a drop of difference anywyas? stop bickering and go ride... its almost Spring!

the actual bike says GSX1300R , not GSXR1300... not one bike... at least up to 06' was a R1300....and none of it really makes a drop of difference anywyas? stop bickering and go ride... its almost Spring! for YOU!...

EBBS are you stationed in Fairbanks?

:scratch: ...I'm afraid it is called a gsxr 1300. at least yesterday at the dealer that is what was all over it... GSX1300R it is. That is a fact.

EBBS are you stationed in Fairbanks? nope... I'm in Anchorage... why?

the actual bike says GSX1300R , not GSXR1300... not one bike... at least up to 06' was a R1300....and none of it really makes a drop of difference anywyas? stop bickering and go ride... its almost Spring! GSX1300R it is. That is a fact. thats all good cause the point is still that is its designated with an R....... :lol:

Ebbs-- just curious, didnt know any other bases were in AK except fairbanks. My gf is from Fairbanks too. Is it a decent place to ride(when its not frozen beyond your balls abilities)?

Ebbs-- just curious, didnt know any other bases were in AK except fairbanks. My gf is from Fairbanks too. Is it a decent place to ride(when its not frozen beyond your balls abilities)? it's cool... I haven't made it up there yet... but as soon as the all the roads are clear I'm gonna make a couple weekend runs up to Fairbanks... I can't wait!

the 14. it looks better................

neither.... they're both ugly to me:2cents: no offense:wink:

I'd take the ZX14R over the Busa any day for the simple fact that the Busa is overplayed. They're great bikes and very fast but, seriously, I'm so sick of seeing/hearing about them that, if I was ever in the market for a 1000cc+ (and I'll never be, because I want a bike that handles) I'd not touch a Busa.

I'd pick the 14 over the busa any day, reason one, I prefer the styling, reason two, they have developed very quickly and have all the promise and more. They compare to busa's even with the governor crap on them...as I one day will be in the market for a fast bike to drag race i'll never ride anything bigger than 600cc on the street.

You guys are confusing yourselves with comparing 2 bikes with hypothetical modifications. You have to take them both as delivered in order to decide which is better...for you. The 99-02 Busa WAS unrestricted and would run 200 with a sprocket change BUT it didn't meet Euro 3 emissions requirements either. It is more difficult to make a bike quick and compliant from the factory. Look how much trouble Yamaha had getting their Yamaha R1 to keep what performance it had and get Euro 3 compliant...They even had to swallow corporate pride and go back to a 4 valve head!:yikes: In the end They are both ugly, fast, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I can't stand stretched nitro customs! IMHO only subjectivity gives you a winner regardless what the time slip reads. I would go for the ZX14 in stock form since I have heard it handles curves better than the Busa...THEN I would sell it and buy a GSXR750!

Perhaps I was wrong about the 'Busa's sporting prowess. Here is a really good write up from motorcycle USA posted on the ZX Forums http://www.zxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153 and I consider the 'Busa the lesser of the two "wardrobe malfunctions"

I got a Busa and love every bit of it. I have owned a kaw and my gf has a ninja 250 but both of them bikes spent more time in the shop being fixed for motor problems then on the street. So yeah a 14 might be faster but at least busa will still be on the street longer then the 14.