itgirl25 11-23-2006, 07:58 PM i am officially a multi-bike owner. my husband could no longer contain his enthusiasm and had to share my xmas gift with me today. my gift is a yellow 2006 harley davidson street rod! i was not expecting that! i was so moved that i cried!! that is the first time i have ever cried over a gift, i mean you only see that in movies and commercials. it is my dream come true, a sportbike and a harley. i have the best of both worlds...and the best husband in the world. i am one lucky lady.
my father in law has good connections at the HD dealer here and he struck a deal for a mere $7K and change. my hubby has been paying it off. i officially own it. the bike has been down, so my F-I-L fixed it up, that's how he got the good price. it wasn't any major damage: busted radiator and some busted pegs and levers. as you can see, it is in like new condition.
i guess being naughty pays off sometimes. :wink:
here's a pic. :dthumb:
TATER 11-23-2006, 09:58 PM well let me be the firste to say congrats..... don't go all harley chick on us now... remember harleys are ok but a ricer is nicer....
marko138 11-24-2006, 03:29 AM Wow. What a gift! The V-rod/street rod is the ONLY Harley I would consider owning. Yes, consider. :lol:
Congrats...how many miles?
itgirl25 11-24-2006, 05:58 AM only 7000 miles on it. it is practically brand new. i am gonna test the theory that there are different bikes for different purposes. hopefully i will find time for both my ladies. :dthumb:
itgirl25 11-24-2006, 07:28 AM well let me be the firste to say congrats..... don't go all harley chick on us now... remember harleys are ok but a ricer is nicer....
don't worry, i won't forget where i came from. :dthumb:
Gas Man 11-24-2006, 08:07 AM OMG! That is awesome! It looks great!!!
Sweet color and everything! The V-Rod is one sweet HD!
Now go to Performence Machine and get the PhatRod kit to put the 250 tire on the back!
mvp622 11-24-2006, 09:18 AM Congrats :cheers:
itgirl25 11-24-2006, 09:20 AM :thx1:
neebelung 11-24-2006, 09:34 AM Wow. What a gift! The V-rod/street rod is the ONLY Harley I would consider owning. Yes, consider. :lol:
Congrats...how many miles?
:iagree: Those are gorgeous, and I've never seen that yellow.... Congrats!!!! :clap:
byron12 11-24-2006, 10:02 PM wow that is awesome great bike :h13: has come early congratulations.
dubbs 11-24-2006, 10:36 PM Wow, I hate harleys, but that looks bad ass!!
Congrats..
I ride my dads cruiser every now and then, some times you just need to cruise and enjoy the scenery...
Maybe its sumthin about that v-twin rumble.. hehe
Have fun with her..
1BadCBR 11-25-2006, 07:12 AM Must be nice to have two to chose from.......What does your husband ride :scratch:
itgirl25 11-25-2006, 07:16 AM Must be nice to have two to chose from.......What does your husband ride :scratch:
hubby rides an 04 HD fatboy. i'll letcha know what it's like having 2 when i get to bust her out next week. title gets transferred on wednesday. :dthumb:
1BadCBR 11-25-2006, 07:20 AM hubby rides an 04 HD fatboy. i'll letcha know what it's like having 2 when i get to bust her out next week. title gets transferred on wednesday. :dthumb:
Just noticed your new signature also.....nice touch!
itgirl25 11-25-2006, 07:23 AM thanks. i changed that right away. notice it's 2nd to my kawi...the way it will always be. :dthumb:
1BadCBR 11-25-2006, 07:26 AM thanks. i changed that right away. notice it's 2nd to my kawi...the way it will always be. :dthumb:
:idk: You may get on it and forget all about the kaw :lol:
Gas Man 11-25-2006, 10:54 AM :idk: You may get on it and forget all about the kaw :lol:
The v-rod is a sweet bike... and remmeber guys... its only particially a HD. The motor is designed by porsheca (sp?)
marko138 11-26-2006, 11:56 AM OMG! That is awesome! It looks great!!!
Sweet color and everything! The V-Rod is one sweet HD!
Now go to Performence Machine and get the PhatRod kit to put the 250 tire on the back!
Why? So it handles just as bad as every other Harley?
drewpy 11-26-2006, 04:38 PM :zowned:
Gas Man 11-27-2006, 08:49 AM Cause it would look sweet as hell!
itgirl25 11-27-2006, 11:54 AM :iagree: gotta have a fatty on a cruiser.
neebelung 11-27-2006, 11:56 AM :idk: You may get on it and forget all about the kaw :lol:
:bash: AS IF that's possible!!!
itgirl25 11-27-2006, 11:59 AM :bash: AS IF that's possible!!!
:iagree: i'll always be a 'kawgirl'. there is just something so sexy about the lines on a sportbike. :drool:
Pippi 11-27-2006, 12:31 PM Congrats on the new ride! Looks great!
ShanMan14 11-27-2006, 12:49 PM Congrats on the new ride! Looks great!
:iagree: :cheers:
itgirl25 11-27-2006, 07:43 PM Congrats on the new ride! Looks great!
:iagree: :cheers:
:thx2: now i get the best of both worlds.
marko138 11-27-2006, 10:30 PM :thx2: now i get the best of both worlds.
Have you taken it out yet? Nice couple of days in Central PA...
Gas Man 11-28-2006, 12:12 AM Have you taken it out yet? Nice couple of days in Central PA...
Yeah details! :tt:
itgirl25 11-28-2006, 05:51 AM my hubby gets home from hunting today, he left first thing friday morning. we haven't gotten the title transferred yet. hopefully today, tomorrow for sure. so i will be on it soon, probably tomorrow and thursday. then i'll letcha know what i think.
the weather has been beautiful the last 3 days. i really think he did it to torture me. who gives a gift and then leaves town for 5 days and lets you just drool over it?! :skep: that was so mean. i guess he wanted me to miss him while he is gone. :idk: i haven't gotten a wink of sleep since he left. i am just rarin' to go on this beast!
marko138 11-28-2006, 05:53 AM Couple more nice days to take advantage of...
itgirl25 11-28-2006, 06:37 AM thank god for that. i thought for sure i'd miss the good weather waiting. the lord is smiling upon me, i guess.
pickle.of.doom 11-28-2006, 11:29 AM Very nice new ride :dthumb:
Congrats, looks very sharp.
psychochild28 11-28-2006, 11:36 AM that's one heck of an x-mas gift:dthumb:
i need to work on being naughty if it pays off that well :wink:
YZFR61ST 11-28-2006, 12:05 PM :cheers: congrats....nice ride :dthumb:
Gas Man 11-28-2006, 11:48 PM Sounds like he figured he wouldn't be able to hide it from you or that you would go snooping around and find it anyway when he was gone!
ne1469 11-29-2006, 12:07 AM well let me be the firste to say congrats..... don't go all harley chick on us now... remember harleys are ok but a ricer is nicer....
:withstupi
Niiice street rod
itgirl25 11-29-2006, 03:02 PM well, i was able to get out on the street rod today for a quick little jaunt before getting pelted with raindrops. it was gray and drizzly today, tomorrow will be a bit nicer.
wow, what a different animal this bike is! you are definately not going to get anywhere fast on it. the difference will take some getting used to. it weighs more (obviously) and has a lower center of gravity. it corners real nice and shifts real smooth. however, when you snap the throttle open there is that brief moment of inactivity before you feel the chug-chug of the engine kick in and take off. the riding position is real comfortable as is the seat itself. i really like this bike, but there is absolutely no threat of me replacing my sportbike with it. each bike will have it's place in my life, but my kawi will always be first in my heart.
at any rate, i am looking forward to taking the rod out tomorrow and getting better acquainted with it before tucking it in for the winter. tomorrow looks like the last of the nice days for quite awhile.
1BadCBR 11-29-2006, 06:06 PM hey are you going to post some more pics of your "Christmas Present"?
Gas Man 11-29-2006, 08:05 PM Itgirl... it sounds like you have the RPM too low. Keep it at 2500 or higher when you snap the throttle!
L48Shark 11-29-2006, 08:22 PM :iagree: gotta have a fatty on a cruiser.
But you're not fat... :idk:
:lol:
That was a very thoughtful gift! :dthumb:
(40 posts and this thread hasn't taken an anti-Buell slant yet? :wtf: )
stomper173 11-29-2006, 08:27 PM Nice gift you got, congrats :dthumb:
itgirl25 11-29-2006, 09:01 PM Itgirl... it sounds like you have the RPM too low. Keep it at 2500 or higher when you snap the throttle!
thanks for the helpful advice. i'll keep that in mind tomorrow when i get her out again. it's an adjustment for me, so any helpful advice you have keep it coming. i'm sure it won't take long for it all to become second nature to me. i just gotta get used to where everything is, i guess. :dthumb:
i guess i thought that even though this thing is a tank...with that big ol' engine it should just sh*t and get upon command. i have a lot to learn here. i really know nothing about HDs.
Gas Man 11-29-2006, 09:48 PM Its a different world for sure...
That bike should be FI but without a aftermarket tuning and some different pipes it won't come alive like you want. Plus you are coming from a inline 4 to a v-twin. That alone takes alot of getting use to.
itgirl25 11-30-2006, 11:06 AM :upset: i took the bike out a bit today and got rained on again, just like yesterday. i must've angered god or something. can't the sun just pop out for an hour or so?!! and it's gonna be in the 40s starting this weekend for as long as the eye can see. guess winter will actually be here, time to put the toys away. :cry:
L48Shark 11-30-2006, 05:53 PM :upset: i took the bike out a bit today and got rained on again, just like yesterday. i must've angered god or something. can't the sun just pop out for an hour or so?!! and it's gonna be in the 40s starting this weekend for as long as the eye can see. guess winter will actually be here, time to put the toys away. :cry:
Count your blessings, we're getting freezing rain and snow here!
1BadCBR 11-30-2006, 06:15 PM Count your blessings, we're getting freezing rain and snow here!
A friend of mine is in Little Rock right now for school, how far is that from where your at?
L48Shark 11-30-2006, 07:01 PM A friend of mine is in Little Rock right now for school, how far is that from where your at?
About 4+ hours away under normal road conditions. He's in the middle of the state while I am in the very northwest corner. It's pretty icey here right now, and our roads are all hilly and twisted. Great on a bike on a nice day, but like this in a car... :yikes:
sfarson 11-30-2006, 10:18 PM Congrats on the Street Rod. Use to have a V-Rod and miss it. The VRSC series of bikes are outstandind. So are their big twins :wink:.
http://www.farson.com/h-d/vrmichflower800.jpg
Gas Man 12-01-2006, 01:11 AM So Sfarson... give her some tips on the beast!!
marko138 12-01-2006, 03:00 AM So Sfarson... give her some tips on the beast!!
:iagree:
1BadCBR 12-01-2006, 06:28 AM Congrats on the Street Rod. Use to have a V-Rod and miss it. The VRSC series of bikes are outstandind. So are their big twins :wink:.
http://www.farson.com/h-d/vrmichflower800.jpg
That's like a postcard picture, mountains in the background with flowers in the front :lol:
itgirl25 12-01-2006, 08:17 AM i love the silver v-rods. that's the one that made me fall in love with them. so far i am loving the street rod. :dthumb:
marko138 12-01-2006, 09:59 AM i love the silver v-rods. that's the one that made me fall in love with them. so far i am loving the street rod. :dthumb:
Get out today...70 degrees and the monsoon is fast approaching.
Rider 12-01-2006, 10:01 AM Get out today...70 degrees and the monsoon is fast approaching.
It already hit here!
marko138 12-01-2006, 10:01 AM It already hit here!
I know...it's coming pretty quick.
Cant get it down!!! 12-01-2006, 10:06 AM Could you feasibly knee drag on that bike... I think it was in this forum, somewhere that I saw a pic with a guy on a V-rod, that had put on mid, or rearmount pegs (rearsets), he also altered the bikes exhaust, and was about to drag his knee with his harley at a track... just asking if it might be possible?
BTW beautiful bike!!!! Enjoy!!!
sfarson 12-01-2006, 06:18 PM So Sfarson... give her some tips on the beast!!
H O L D O N T I G H T
:lol:
L48Shark 12-01-2006, 07:21 PM Could you feasibly knee drag on that bike... I think it was in this forum, somewhere that I saw a pic with a guy on a V-rod, that had put on mid, or rearmount pegs (rearsets), he also altered the bikes exhaust, and was about to drag his knee with his harley at a track... just asking if it might be possible?
BTW beautiful bike!!!! Enjoy!!!
There was a pic on Killboy a few months ago of a guy dragging on a KLR650. If you can drag a knee on that horse, I figure it's possible on anything. (Although it might require an absurdly exaggerated hang off, extremely long legs, or both!) :lol:
fnfalman 12-06-2006, 06:52 PM Congrats on the Street Rod. If I were to bother with HD, that's one bike that I would consider worth my riding it. As far as I'm concerned, it's the only REAL motorcycle that Harley is currently putting out.
That watercooled V-twin is fairly potent but she does need to be revved up a bit. Definitely derestrict that mutha and do some minor tunings in order to get the flat spots out at lower RPM. Lots of watercooled V-twins have that issue coming from the factory and not just the Street Rod alone.
Hell, a Porsche-designed V-twin can't be that bad. And yes, I had demo rode these bikes before. Pretty darn fun.
sfarson 12-06-2006, 07:10 PM Congrats on the Street Rod. If I were to bother with HD, that's one bike that I would consider worth my riding it. As far as I'm concerned, it's the only REAL motorcycle that Harley is currently putting out.
Curious. Why do you believe it is the only REAL motorcycle from Milwaukee?
A good and thoughtful reply please.
L48Shark 12-06-2006, 07:18 PM Curious. Why do you believe it is the only REAL motorcycle from Milwaukee?
A good and thoughtful reply please.
Because he forgot they own Buell! :wink:
fnfalman 12-06-2006, 08:48 PM Curious. Why do you believe it is the only REAL motorcycle from Milwaukee?
A good and thoughtful reply please.
First of all, I don't consider Buell to be a Harley product. Yes, they use the engine and yes, Harley owns Buell, but it's different enough to be considered a bike unto its own.
But as far as why do I think that the Street Rod is the only REAL bike that HD is currently making, that's pretty simple to determine:
I'm not a "biker", I'm a motorcyclist. My bikes or the bikes that I respect must be designed and manufactured to be ridden first and foremost. Can you ride a typical HD? Sure you can, as surely as you can on a custom chopper too. But it's not an optimal riding machine. The brakes are poor, the handling is poor, and the power is poor (although that can be fixed as seen by the Jap power cruiser).
Yes, you're not riding a racer, but I prefer a bike that has enough oomph to get away from trouble.
So, for me, riding a bike at slow speed on the concrete slab makes no sense. A modern bike must be able to keep up with traffic on or off highway.
The legs-out-front seating position puts weight on your tail bone. Not to mention that it doesn't allow you full control of the bike if the pegs are underneath you instead of out front like a OBG-YN's stirrup.
Harleys are simply not made for serious riding, and that's why they aren't considered to be real motorcycles by me. The Street Rod is the only product by The Motor Company to meet my requirements of what a serious riding machine is suppose to be.
And before people start telling me about cruisers are made for long distance riding, I beg to differ - Goldwings and BMWs dominate that scene and they don't ride with the legs way out front.
And before people start telling me about cruisers are made for slow speed riding, I also beg to differ. Ever see a cruiser rider splitting lane or riding slow in congested street traffic? It's an exercise in futility due to the unusually high handlebars, the bad weight distribution and, here we go again, the legs forward thing.
Cruisers in general and Harleys in particular, are made for people who cares more about the "rebel" image than serious riding.
Ever heard the complaints of the "hardcore" Harley types when it comes to the V-Rod family? They're too fast! That's the complaint.
So, not everybody is a canyon cutter or a speed freak - that's cool. There are plenty of times when I go easy cruisin' too. But a standard will function in that capacity better than a cruiser yet still have the extra oomph, braking and handling just in case you need them to get out of trouble.
Alrighty then, the cruiser isn't about optimal riding, but it looks good. Well, that's debatable. Looks are subjective. And I don't care about looks anyway, otherwise I would be owning Ducati and MV Agusta right now.
I'm all about the ride and the machines that help me do the ride. And that's why I think that the Street Rod is the only REAL motorcycle that HD is putting out right now. The rest of them are caricactures of what was once upon a time a great line of motorcycles.
byron12 12-06-2006, 08:58 PM But you're not fat... :idk:
:lol:
That was a very thoughtful gift! :dthumb:
(40 posts and this thread hasn't taken an anti-Buell slant yet? :wtf: )
buells are gay.:lol:
L48Shark 12-06-2006, 09:29 PM buells are gay.:lol:
:thx1: Man, I set myself up for that twice before someone finally took the bait. :lol:
marko138 12-06-2006, 11:03 PM Curious. Why do you believe it is the only REAL motorcycle from Milwaukee?
A good and thoughtful reply please.
Is this a joke?
sfarson 12-07-2006, 01:36 AM Is this a joke?
Nope.
The reply was classic H-D bias, stale stereotypes, and blindness towards metrics doing the same, not understanding what the cruising rider looks for.
Was hopeful yet doubtful the reply would reveal insight. Doubt confirmed.
I ride Ducati, MV, Honda, BMW, H-D. Some know the landscape, some know facts, some don't and can't see past their own prejudices.
sfarson 12-07-2006, 02:51 AM Too nice to leave the long post refuting every point. Deleted it.
marko138 12-07-2006, 03:50 AM First of all, I don't consider Buell to be a Harley product. Yes, they use the engine and yes, Harley owns Buell, but it's different enough to be considered a bike unto its own.
But as far as why do I think that the Street Rod is the only REAL bike that HD is currently making, that's pretty simple to determine:
I'm not a "biker", I'm a motorcyclist. My bikes or the bikes that I respect must be designed and manufactured to be ridden first and foremost. Can you ride a typical HD? Sure you can, as surely as you can on a custom chopper too. But it's not an optimal riding machine. The brakes are poor, the handling is poor, and the power is poor (although that can be fixed as seen by the Jap power cruiser).
Yes, you're not riding a racer, but I prefer a bike that has enough oomph to get away from trouble.
So, for me, riding a bike at slow speed on the concrete slab makes no sense. A modern bike must be able to keep up with traffic on or off highway.
The legs-out-front seating position puts weight on your tail bone. Not to mention that it doesn't allow you full control of the bike if the pegs are underneath you instead of out front like a OBG-YN's stirrup.
Harleys are simply not made for serious riding, and that's why they aren't considered to be real motorcycles by me. The Street Rod is the only product by The Motor Company to meet my requirements of what a serious riding machine is suppose to be.
And before people start telling me about cruisers are made for long distance riding, I beg to differ - Goldwings and BMWs dominate that scene and they don't ride with the legs way out front.
And before people start telling me about cruisers are made for slow speed riding, I also beg to differ. Ever see a cruiser rider splitting lane or riding slow in congested street traffic? It's an exercise in futility due to the unusually high handlebars, the bad weight distribution and, here we go again, the legs forward thing.
Cruisers in general and Harleys in particular, are made for people who cares more about the "rebel" image than serious riding.
Ever heard the complaints of the "hardcore" Harley types when it comes to the V-Rod family? They're too fast! That's the complaint.
So, not everybody is a canyon cutter or a speed freak - that's cool. There are plenty of times when I go easy cruisin' too. But a standard will function in that capacity better than a cruiser yet still have the extra oomph, braking and handling just in case you need them to get out of trouble.
Alrighty then, the cruiser isn't about optimal riding, but it looks good. Well, that's debatable. Looks are subjective. And I don't care about looks anyway, otherwise I would be owning Ducati and MV Agusta right now.
I'm all about the ride and the machines that help me do the ride. And that's why I think that the Street Rod is the only REAL motorcycle that HD is putting out right now. The rest of them are caricactures of what was once upon a time a great line of motorcycles.
I'm with this guy on this one.
okay, I am totally late to this thread, been gone a while...but congrats!!! thats the best present ever!!!
okay, I am totally late to this thread, been gone a while...but congrats!!! thats the best present ever!!!
Where have you been hiding? Were you forced to go into hiding now that you are a magazine model? :lol:
Where have you been hiding? Were you forced to go into hiding now that you are a magazine model? :lol:
:lol: ...nah, I had forgotten the issue was coming out this week, but either way, i had to stage an intervention, too much time on TWF!! :lol: and I have been really busy and just too exhausted to post whore it up...
Rider 12-07-2006, 08:09 AM :lol: ...nah, I had forgotten the issue was coming out this week, but either way, i had to stage an intervention, too much time on TWF!! :lol: and I have been really busy and just too exhausted to post whore it up...
You should check your reps. I'd immagine you've been left many reps recently. :lol:
:yikes: i did get several while I was gone...i will get right on returning those!!! Thanks all!! :hug:
my friends called me last night to tell me they got their issue and i am now a "superstah"...:lol: I am glad it looks good, I havent seen it in person yet...
sorry itgirl, no more hijacking...
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 08:27 AM no problem. glad to have you back. :dthumb:
no problem. glad to have you back. :dthumb:
i think i am going to die of jealousy girl!! that is just friggin awesome!!!
fnfalman 12-07-2006, 09:55 AM Nope.
The reply was classic H-D bias, stale stereotypes, and blindness towards metrics doing the same, not understanding what the cruising rider looks for.
Was hopeful yet doubtful the reply would reveal insight. Doubt confirmed.
I ride Ducati, MV, Honda, BMW, H-D. Some know the landscape, some know facts, some don't and can't see past their own prejudices.
You asked for my sincere opinions and I gave it to you.
I owned a Sportster once upon a time, so it isn't like I don't know what the "Harley" experience is all about. But let me guess, a Sportster isn't a real "Harley" and a girlie bike, right? I gotta get on one of those 800-lbs bike to know what it's really like to ride a Harley or a cruiser?
Hint to you, I've test rode Victories, Yamahas, Hondas, Suzuki cruisers too. Hell, I even rode the BMW cruiser R1200C.
And I guess I just don't know what the cruiser riders look for. If that sort of riding appeal to you then by all means, but it doesn't appeal to me. What riding you can do with your cruiser, I can do the same with my standard yet I don't have to worry about the disadvantages of owning a cruiser.
sfarson 12-07-2006, 10:00 AM I'm with this guy on this one.
Great! An invitation to educate! Post that was deleted:
First of all, I don't consider Buell to be a Harley product. Yes, they use the engine and yes, Harley owns Buell, but it's different enough to be considered a bike unto its own.
But as far as why do I think that the Street Rod is the only REAL bike that HD is currently making, that's pretty simple to determine:
Rarely do I come across a post so full of inaccuracy and close-mindedness. This is classic! A keeper.
I'm not a "biker", I'm a motorcyclist. My bikes or the bikes that I respect must be designed and manufactured to be ridden first and foremost. Can you ride a typical HD? Sure you can, as surely as you can on a custom chopper too. But it's not an optimal riding machine. The brakes are poor, the handling is poor, and the power is poor (although that can be fixed as seen by the Jap power cruiser).
Hogwash. Cruisers are built for cruising. They are optimal for this. Riding my 998 in urban environments, stop and go traffic, is "not an optimal riding machine" to use your words. Wake up and see there are different roads, different streets, different riding needs and interests.
From Motorcycle Consumer News...
These Softails go, turn and stop well -- not just "for Harleys," but just plain well. At a time when Japanese sportbikes are upping the performance ante beyond our wildest dreams, it's a shame that its cruisers have been dumbed down almost beyond recognition. And it's nice to see a bike like the Deuce. It offers all the styling and resale value Milwaukee is famous for while putting its Japanese competition to shame in an arena they otherwise dominate. So pick up the ball Japan. If you thought that cruiser riders only cared about looks, Harley-Davidson is a step ahead of you... again."
Reread the preceding, then reread it again. Do you understand how H-D big twins compare versus the competition? Oh wait, I know where you're coming from. You think some Japanese cruisers are better because they can go 135mph vs. 123mph. Sheeesh. Most cruising riders NEVER see and have NO DESIRE to see the north side of 100mph.
Yes, you're not riding a racer, but I prefer a bike that has enough oomph to get away from trouble.
So, for me, riding a bike at slow speed on the concrete slab makes no sense. A modern bike must be able to keep up with traffic on or off highway.
OK, please look-up the performance specs of the typical car, SUV, truck on the road. I'll save you some time... bone stock H-D's are faster in the 1/4 mile, and most other performance measures than just about any vehicle at any stop light, but you wouldn't know this for your words reveal biases versus facts.
Once read a Road & Track review of luxury sports cars like the Mercedes and others of its ilk. 1/4 mile times above 15 seconds!?! Stock H-D's are in the 13sec range (Before mods) and their abundant torque is very usable in dicey traffic situations versus prodigious amounts of HP reachable only at shrieking and statospherically high RPMS.
The legs-out-front seating position puts weight on your tail bone. Not to mention that it doesn't allow you full control of the bike if the pegs are underneath you instead of out front like a OBG-YN's stirrup.
The cruising riding position would be an issue if people were having a problem with it. Few do. Far more have issues with the sport riding position over longer distances. I can ride both far. Maybe you can't? FWIW, after 100,000's of miles of riding all kinds, never has the cruiser ergos been a disadvantage to me or millions of others. BTW due to the low COG advantage of a cruiser, many consider them easier to ride and control. It is a reason why many find women riding cruisers versus sportbikes. Easier to manage.
Harleys are simply not made for serious riding, and that's why they aren't considered to be real motorcycles by me.
You would be in the very, very small minority on this.
And before people start telling me about cruisers are made for long distance riding, I beg to differ - Goldwings and BMWs dominate that scene and they don't ride with the legs way out front.
Very, very factually wrong on this. Far more Electra Glides are sold and dominate the touring scene versus GW's or LT's. It isn't even close. You're blinded by your hatred of the Milwaukee product.
And before people start telling me about cruisers are made for slow speed riding, I also beg to differ. Ever see a cruiser rider splitting lane or riding slow in congested street traffic? It's an exercise in futility due to the unusually high handlebars, the bad weight distribution and, here we go again, the legs forward thing.
Cruisers are made for cruising. The constant getting from A to B as fast as possible simply isn't in the mindset of most cruising riders. This isn't difficult to grasp. FWIW, lane splitting is lawful in only a very few states. BTW, tell me... what % of H-D models have high handlebars as a % of total and where is the weight distribution bad?
Cruisers in general and Harleys in particular, are made for people who cares more about the "rebel" image than serious riding.
Is this the classic blanket stereotype or what? These kinds of comments never, ever, impress.
Ever heard the complaints of the "hardcore" Harley types when it comes to the V-Rod family? They're too fast! That's the complaint.
Well, riding both a big twin and V-Rod, I've heard far many more comments than you, and thoughts regarding some kind of nervousness over speed is nowhere near representative of "hardcore" riders. You pass it off like it is fact when it isn't even close. Styling and lack of big twin charm is their biggest hangup. And hey, so what if some don't want to go fast. Egads, what is wrong with that!?! It's actually quite intelligent. Moreso than what I see 20 something year olds doing on their hyper overkill liter bikes with 99% of them never seeing a track according to Cycle World. Motorcyclist noted any bike with over 95-100hp has wasted HP and is too high strung for the street.
So, not everybody is a canyon cutter or a speed freak - that's cool. There are plenty of times when I go easy cruisin' too. But a standard will function in that capacity better than a cruiser yet still have the extra oomph, braking and handling just in case you need them to get out of trouble.
Ahh...making the sanitary decision. See this sometimes. Motorcycles are discretionary purchases. Emotion has to be involved. If it isn't, owners often sell soon after, or the enthusiasm is never really there. As Motorcyclist Magazine noted in their Annual Buyer's Guide, all motorcycles are excellent and reliable nowadays. The kind of roads and riding one has before them and a heartfelt connection is what is key.
Alrighty then, the cruiser isn't about optimal riding, but it looks good. Well, that's debatable. Looks are subjective. And I don't care about looks anyway, otherwise I would be owning Ducati and MV Agusta right now.
Huh? It's about optimal cruising riding.
I'm all about the ride and the machines that help me do the ride. And that's why I think that the Street Rod is the only REAL motorcycle that HD is putting out right now. The rest of them are caricactures of what was once upon a time a great line of motorcycles.
So are Harley and cruising riders. It's all about the ride to them. Tell me, what models of H-D's past contributed to a better line-up than what they have now?
Here's the irony of ironies... Your attitude towards H-D reminds me so much of the H-D riders not understanding those wanting to ride a sportbike. If they don't ride like you, look like you, think like you, there's something wrong with them and the product. You can't stand the diversity and desire all to be like you. You have much in common.
sfarson 12-07-2006, 10:05 AM And I guess I just don't know what the cruiser riders look for. If that sort of riding appeal to you then by all means, but it doesn't appeal to me. What riding you can do with your cruiser, I can do the same with my standard yet I don't have to worry about the disadvantages of owning a cruiser.
Agreed, you don't know what the cruiser rider looks for. Thus it is inaccurate to claim the Streetrod is the only real motorcycle Milwaukee produces.
Likewise, for those delighting in the cruising experience they would find riding a standard to be disadvantageous.
jeeps84 12-07-2006, 12:28 PM :readng: I think some of us can agree to simply disagree.
With that said.
Congrats to Itgirl on the new Rod. I love it! :dthumb:
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 12:52 PM :readng: I think some of us can agree to simply disagree.
With that said.
Congrats to Itgirl on the new Rod. I love it! :dthumb:
:thx2: jeeps, for likin' my new bike and bringing the focus of this thread back to where it belongs...ON ME!! :D
i love my new street rod, but for what it's worth it does feel like i am riding a concrete slab. heavy as a mutha and goin' nowhere fast. then again, i didn't want this bike for speed...so i plan on lovin' both my gals for the purpose they were designed for. i am lucky to get the chance to experience both. :dthumb:
jeeps84 12-07-2006, 12:56 PM :thx2: jeeps, for likin' my new bike and bringing the focus of this thread back to where it belongs...ON ME!! :D
i love my new street rod, but for what it's worth it does feel like i am riding a concrete slab. heavy as a mutha and goin' nowhere fast. then again, i didn't want this bike for speed...so i plan on lovin' both my gals for the purpose they were designed for. i am lucky to get the chance to experience both. :dthumb:When your Hubby is dragging chrome off you can still ride past and smile.:D You might need to soften her up a bit to get a better ride.:2cents:
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 01:00 PM the vibration from the street rod also makes me feel like i gotta pee. always need to hit the bathroom right away after i dismount. how do i change that? :lol:
jeeps84 12-07-2006, 01:08 PM the vibration from the street rod also makes me feel like i gotta pee. always need to hit the bathroom right away after i dismount. how do i change that? :lol:
:rofl3:
jeeps84 12-07-2006, 01:09 PM I thought you girls liked that. :wink:
fnfalman 12-07-2006, 01:31 PM Here's the irony of ironies... Your attitude towards H-D reminds me so much of the H-D riders not understanding those wanting to ride a sportbike. If they don't ride like you, look like you, think like you, there's something wrong with them and the product. You can't stand the diversity and desire all to be like you. You have much in common.
My attitude and opinions don't come from reading magazines. They come on first-hand experiences. You ain't the only one that have 100,000-miles under your belt with various bikes.
Like I said, cruisers are fine for you if you like it. As for me, there are bikes that serve the same missions yet better designed.
I don't know about you, but 1000-miles a day on my standards ain't nuthin' but sweet chicken wings to me.
If people feel like riding a bike that has little acceleration, little braking and little handling then by all means. And apparently there are a lot of them because HD and the Jap cruisers sell in the hundreds of thousands per year. But that ain't me.
You asked for my opinion and you didn't like what you hear. Too bad. Next time, if you want to hear what you like to hear, then ask your question to the people that agree with you.
Of course when a person owns an Aprilia Tuono, it's pretty hard to be impressed by anything else. I can cruise all day long one moment and I can attack the nastiest hairpin at the next moment. I can gingerly split lane at 10-MPH one moment and blast down I-40 at 150 the next. I can bar hop one day and do some interstate touring the next. I can even take a fat chick if I want to because there's plenty of torque to get things moving.
About the only bike from Harley that can come close to doing that is the Street Rod.
And also re-read my posts. I think that cruisers are worthless whether they wear the Roundel, come from the Land of the Rising Sun, or Milwaukee.
As far as looks go, if you think that the long & low feature excites you then by all means. I don't buy bikes on looks. What they do bring out my emotions and sentiments. Like I said, if I were to buy a bike whose appearance excite me, I'd be owning Ducati and MV Agusta motorcycles.
Itgirl, derestrict that bike and retune it. Also adjust the suspension for your weight. The Street Rod won't corner with a crotch rocket, but it will do you justice.
the vibration from the street rod also makes me feel like i gotta pee. always need to hit the bathroom right away after i dismount. how do i change that? :lol:
you mean you dont feel like that on your kawi? I always have that problem when I ride, its not so bad until after a huge lunch with friends when i down like 4 mt. dews, then have to ride the hour home...:lol: then its agony!!!
sfarson 12-07-2006, 01:49 PM You asked for my opinion and you didn't like what you hear. Too bad. Next time, if you want to hear what you like to hear, then ask your question to the people that agree with you.
Not quite. Was looking for facts not opinion to support your assertions. I provided evidence, stats, and quotes. None of what you said was factual, though you tried to pass it as such as you tossed out unfounded statements.
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 02:31 PM I thought you girls liked that. :wink:
i wish it'd stimulate other things than my bladder. :wink:
you mean you dont feel like that on your kawi? I always have that problem when I ride, its not so bad until after a huge lunch with friends when i down like 4 mt. dews, then have to ride the hour home...:lol: then its agony!!!
i can honestly say that i have never had that feeling on the kawi, at least not yet.
jeeps84 12-07-2006, 02:32 PM On a serious note. Maybe look into getting another seat. Softening the suspension will help too.
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 02:35 PM Not quite. Was looking for facts not opinion to support your assertions. I provided evidence, stats, and quotes. None of what you said was factual, though you tried to pass it as such as you tossed out unfounded statements.
dammit, quit jackin' my thread! go start your own debate thread. :skep: this is a sportbike forum after all, you shouldn't expect much love for the HD/buell scene. appreciate the beauty of all these machines and let it go, for pete's sake.
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 02:39 PM On a serious note. Maybe look into getting another seat. Softening the suspension will help too.
well, my f-i-l did put racing shocks on it to take an inch or 2 outta the suspension. as far as seats go, we are waiting for HD to offer a seat for the inseam impaired to get me closer to the ground. they do for the other v-rod models, just not the street rod. my f-i-l doesn't wanna take a chance shaving the seat and screwing it up. so that is a future mod. thanks for the suggestions. i will look into all of them. :dthumb:
dammit, quit jackin' my thread! go start your own debate thread. :skep: this is a sportbike forum after all, you shouldn't expect much love for the HD/buell scene. appreciate the beauty of all these machines and let it go, for pete's sake.
:iagree: :jacked:
maybe its the positioning of my bike or the way my body sits (pretty much on the gas tank) and the plywood seat...but even after changing the seat I still notice it...
jeeps84 12-07-2006, 02:41 PM Shorties! :lol:
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 02:42 PM :iagree: :jacked:
maybe its the positioning of my bike or the way my body sits (pretty much on the gas tank) and the plywood seat...but even after changing the seat I still notice it...
i can see how it would happen, what with us leaning forward and putting pressure on our bladder. perhaps you should cut back on the dew? :lol:
Gas Man 12-07-2006, 02:55 PM You guys would be surprise to see what is going on with the cruiser v-twins...
S&S new motor (http://www.cycleworld.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=240)
http://www.cycleworld.com/assets/image/2006/Q4/120520062133334976.jpg
sfarson 12-07-2006, 03:21 PM dammit, quit jackin' my thread! go start your own debate thread. :skep: this is a sportbike forum after all, you shouldn't expect much love for the HD/buell scene. appreciate the beauty of all these machines and let it go, for pete's sake.
Sorry about this. Actually, will find numerous specific-class forums appreciating all forms of two wheeled endeavors. Unsure about this one. It tends to be healthy to challenge assumptions so thinking doesn't become inbred. Same is true for the H-D/Buell forums I frequent when I observe a lame and ignorant attitude towards sportbike riders.
Congrats again on the VRSCR. A VRSCDX is on the horizon for me.
marko138 12-07-2006, 03:23 PM Pssssssst.....ITgirl...Buell makes sportbikes too.
V-Rod steez. Nice curtain work on your garage door windows.
Sorry about this. Actually, will find numerous specific-class forums appreciating all forms of two wheeled endeavors. Unsure about this one. It tends to be healthy to challenge assumptions so thinking doesn't become inbred. Same is true for the H-D/Buell forums I frequent when I observe a lame and ignorant attitude towards sportbike riders.
Congrats again on the VRSCR. A VRSCDX is on the horizon for me.
you know, i have been ignoring ya'lls lil rant, just cuz I dont have time to read all of it, but from what I did read, you both have good points, it all comes down to a matter of opinion...we all like all kinds of bikes, and while you may feel that we on this forum are not being totally open minded, please dont stereo type or be misdirected, many of us love cruisers and plan on having that as well as a SB, but this being the internet everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as it appears that you have both shared...please dont run off just because it may appear to you that we arent all what you think we are on first impression...you would be surprised at how many here own cruisers...
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 04:14 PM Pssssssst.....ITgirl...Buell makes sportbikes too.
shhh....let's not go there...
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 04:16 PM V-Rod steez. Nice curtain work on your garage door windows.
that's my in-laws' garage. my garage is a shed. :dthumb:
fnfalman 12-07-2006, 06:35 PM Not quite. Was looking for facts not opinion to support your assertions. I provided evidence, stats, and quotes. None of what you said was factual, though you tried to pass it as such as you tossed out unfounded statements.
I was talking about facts. Fact 1 - cruisers and Harleys are slow (with the exception of the V-Rod, the M109R and the V-Max). Fact 2 - cruisers and Harleys don't have squat for brakes (Street Rod is different but it's not a cruiser by my definition). Fact 3 - cruisers and Harleys have terrible handling - soft suspension, large front tire, coupled with long chassis that doesn't make for maneuvering much fun, hell, they can't even maintain high speed too well in a straight line because of the soft suspension.
Like I said before, don't ask questions that you don't like to hear answers for.
And I never claimed to speak for you. I remembered very distinctly talking about "as far as I AM concerned". You may think that cruisers are the cat's meow, but "I" don't. I like plenty types of motorcycles: sport, touring, dirt, motocross, standard, but I don't think much of cruisers. And please excuse the hell out of me for having a personal preference.
The Street Rod is the real reason why I think not too highly of Harley-Davidson. They show that they can actually put out a very decent motorcycle, but they'd rather put out caricactures of the past. Other than the Street Rod, the last "REAL" motorcycle that Harley made was the original 1957 Sportster.
Anyway, Itgirl, seriously, tune that Rod up and ride the piss out of it. It won't corner like a sport bike but it can do some pretty good damage. There's a certain satisfaction of being able to hustle a big bike through some mean twisties. Sure, you have to work for it, but that's why it's fun.
sfarson 12-07-2006, 07:27 PM Sorry man, you're changing the tune. First it was H-D not making any "real" motorcycle except for the VRSCR, this is what I asked about, now you're lumping in other cruisers. Maybe my points are getting through how you can't be blind and see only Milwaukee, which outperforms the metric big twins as noted by MCN. You did read the quote I provided right? I have MCN facts right in front of me showing H-D's out hustling and out breaking the metric cruiser competition. Using your sage logic, no metric cruiser is a "real" motorcycle either.
Then, your comments about speed being insufficient I responded by noting how it is sufficient given the performance of the traffic around, the torque versus HP, the easy of handling as determined by those of small stature buying them. Again, you have no data but to repeat "They're slow". Zzzzz. They're only slow versus overkill-for-the-street sportbikes. As I asked at the beginning, give me a "thoughtful" reply why the VRSCR is the only real motorcycle made in Milwaukee. Still waiting. Don't give me attitude, give me facts. Is the shallowness reflective of a mindset here? If so, going elsewhere for a substantive and challenging exchange.
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 07:31 PM :cursin: here we go again...
mods, how about a :lock:. this thread is going :flush: real fast. besides, i got about all the compliments and well wishes i can get outta it.
sfarson 12-07-2006, 07:36 PM you know, i have been ignoring ya'lls lil rant, just cuz I dont have time to read all of it, but from what I did read, you both have good points, it all comes down to a matter of opinion...we all like all kinds of bikes, and while you may feel that we on this forum are not being totally open minded, please dont stereo type or be misdirected, many of us love cruisers and plan on having that as well as a SB, but this being the internet everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as it appears that you have both shared...please dont run off just because it may appear to you that we arent all what you think we are on first impression...you would be surprised at how many here own cruisers...
Curious, what good, valid, and factual points were made by fnfalman to support the VRSCR as the only "real" H-D motorcycle? I didn't see one. Just unsupportable attitude towards the Milwaukee make, blind to product from other makes doing the same to please their customers. Hope the close-mindedness is not a reflection of the membership. The place will not go far if it is.
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 07:40 PM dude, you can't argue someone's opinion, it's just that: their opinion. why are you guys wasting your time? to each their own...
i don't like busas...does that make me close-minded?
TATER 12-07-2006, 07:44 PM can't we all just get along...
http://www.lclark.edu/~krauss/russiaweb2005/wrworkshop/images/rodkingbeforeafter.jpg
http://www.pauldmarks.com/Image17.gif
itgirl25 12-07-2006, 07:45 PM :hug:
jeeps84 12-07-2006, 07:59 PM dude, you can't argue someone's opinion, it's just that: their opinion. why are you guys wasting your time? to each their own...
i don't like busas...does that make me close-minded?
:iagree: This debate was a :jacked: and now :bthorse:
per your request itgirl it is now :lock:
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