Oh no, we are doomed!!!!!!!

Another four years for Bushwhacker. :sob: All of my friends are upset. you had better count on more government debt, dead soldiers and a bad economy. I did not like Kerry all that much but he was better than Bush. :cursin: :here: :here: :here:

I'm no political genious by all means, but didn't the stock market take it's plummit and the economy go to pot well before Bush stepped into office?

OMG!!! If we get one more political thread in here im gonna scream! :puke:

Maybe we need a politics section. :p:

Maybe we need a politics section. :p: good idea, that way we can lock all the political threads into it and let them all kill each other! :crazy: :D

no need for a politics section Shan. seriously, just read the threads started by everyone whining that *gasp* the democratic process worked, the majority ruled and President Bush was re-elected... anyway... no need for a politics section. according to them, basically, the world is going to come to an end, hence the effort to set up a new section would be wasted. :rolleyes:

:us: :wtf: :bthorse:

Another four years for Bushwhacker. :sob: All of my friends are upset. you had better count on more government debt, dead soldiers and a bad economy. I did not like Kerry all that much but he was better than Bush. :cursin: :here: :here: :here: No offense, but you and your friends are misinformed.

Maybe we need a politics section. :p: Please :here: :here: :here: :here:

I'm no political genious by all means, but didn't the stock market take it's plummit and the economy go to pot well before Bush stepped into office? He inherited a recession created by the bubble economy in the 90s. That wasn't Clinton's fault, however, the military cuts created part of the illusion. Eventually the economy has to correct itself and that's what's happening. We have the same unemployment rate that Clinton had when he got reelected. Interesting when you consider the libs were praising him for that, yet he never had to deal with a recession or 9/11. :whistle:

Another four years for Bushwhacker. :sob: All of my friends are upset. you had better count on more government debt, dead soldiers and a bad economy. I did not like Kerry all that much but he was better than Bush. :cursin: :here: :here: :here: What has Kerry done in the past 20 years?

No offense, but you and your friends are misinformed. Only partially.

consistent with what? if that was directed to me, kindly point out my previous statement with which it is inconsistent and i'll go from there. :thumbs:

Another four years for Bushwhacker. :sob: All of my friends are upset. you had better count on more government debt, dead soldiers and a bad economy. I did not like Kerry all that much but he was better than Bush. :cursin: :here: :here: :here: How many of your friends drive foreign cars? Yes the stock market crashed due to the false bullsh!t economy that Clinton had EVERYTHING to do with. Now Bush is picking up the pieces. All the Democrats want to cry :sob: about "lost" jobs and it is ALL Bush's fault - how many of those pathetic whiny little beotches drive foreign cars? Probably ALL of them. You want jobs to stay here - BUY FOUCKING AMERICAN. Arnie called and left a message for you - STOP WHINING! Also stop creating new political threads... Wah wah, it is over and the best man won. Now deal with it and stop saying oh no 4 years is going to be hell, blah blah blah - either do something to help this country or move the ***** out of it. Oh yeah and "more" dead soldiers - people dying for the job they signed up for and protecting our country? This is bad how? Did they not now the world is full of bad people and that by signing up for the military they are signing up for an inherently dangerous job? I highly commend and recognize ALL our soldiers for a job well done! They deserve much due props. All you whiny anti-Bush anti-war I was for it when the WTC collasped but now it is time to whine like a Gen Xer or Gen Nexter because it is hard and people are dying. Welcome to the real world where it is not a video game that you can pick up and put down and it is not a 5 minute task - it is HARD work and takes TIME. You are disgracing our most reverant brethen who are soldiers fighting for your freedom. Yeah 1,000 troops died and that is terrible - I wish none of them died - but what is your choice? 1,000 dead soldiers or 1,000,000 dead innocent american citizens? Which one? Please tell me. Oh yeah more government debt? Yeah THANKS CLINTON! The whole false economy that he created is what you have to thank - how many foucking times do I have to say that closing down bases, not providing a budget for Navy ships to do their much needed task of patrolling the world's ocean's and not PAYING AMERICA'S BILLS is what caused the government debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There NEVER WAS ANY SURPLUS! You people are all dumb sheep that believe what the facist media and the ultra-liberal morons tell you - every ***** filled spoonful you eat it like you haven't ate for a year. Give me a break. Go to Canada or something for christ sake because this country needs less whiny please politicians think for us people. GET OVER IT! BUSH WON! All HAIL W!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dthumb:

What he means is Gore got the popular vote in 2000. The reason is because I voted for him and my vote counts more. :D

What he means is Gore got the popular vote in 2000. The reason is because I voted for him and my vote counts more. :D i knew what he meant. :lol: but, if one is going to address me specifically and call me inconsistent, i'd only ask that they back that up with references. :thumbs: as i only made one statement, by definition it can't be "inconsistent". anyway, if i was so inclined i'd point out now the lack of a "majority vote" of the people for the 16 years prior to this election. so, what matters more? majority vote? popular vote? good question. that being said, one can argue "popular vote"... "majority vote", etc etc ad nauseum. the fact remains that, at the end of the day, neither matter much. it's the electoral college votes that decide the election. now then, the relevance/need today for the electoral college system is an entirely *different* thread. :leaving:

So busababe comes in, stirs the pot and leaves?! :skep: Where'd you go? Come back and defend yourself! :lol:

...comes in, stirs the pot and leaves?! that's my kinda chick. :lol: too bad we don't live closer, we could hang out. hahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :thumbs:

So busababe comes in, stirs the pot and leaves?! :skep: Looks that way. Think it's JT in drag?!?! :here: :lol:

Doomed? :eek: Mwahahahaha :spam:

Another four years for Bushwhacker. :sob: All of my friends are upset. you had better count on more government debt, dead soldiers and a bad economy. I did not like Kerry all that much but he was better than Bush. :cursin: :here: :here: :here: Women are ready inferior to men. Her statement proves it. If she knew how to read and use the internet... She would go to this web site and learn the truth... http://liberalscum.com

i knew what he meant. :lol: but, if one is going to address me specifically and call me inconsistent, i'd only ask that they back that up with references. :thumbs: as i only made one statement, by definition it can't be "inconsistent". anyway, if i was so inclined i'd point out now the lack of a "majority vote" of the people for the 16 years prior to this election. so, what matters more? majority vote? popular vote? good question. that being said, one can argue "popular vote"... "majority vote", etc etc ad nauseum. the fact remains that, at the end of the day, neither matter much. it's the electoral college votes that decide the election. now then, the relevance/need today for the electoral college system is an entirely *different* thread. :leaving: "the majority" is commonly accepted to mean the popular vote in the context with which you used it (IMO). So that was indeed my reference. Yes, no doubt all that matters in this flawed system is the electoral vote, but I wasn't commenting on that. It is ironic for me to say incosistent without being specific, isn't it :sorry: But I've never heard someone refer to the majority of electoral votes as "the majority" in the context in which you used it. As for a reference, wasn't my 2000 election comment sufficient? Did you think I meant Hawaii's gubernatorial election? If so, I apologize for the confusion.

Another four years for Bushwhacker. :sob: All of my friends are upset. you had better count on more government debt, dead soldiers and a bad economy. I did not like Kerry all that much but he was better than Bush. :cursin: :here: :here: :here: All these Bush supporters are going to get what they wished for. With Bush able to stuff Supreme court with religious nuts. Expect to see religion jammed down our throats :puke: Maybe America will be better off with no abortions, Porn banned, strip clubs banned, booze banned, gambling banned, plus host of other fun sin things :luck:

All these Bush supporters are going to get what they wished for. With Bush able to stuff Supreme court with religious nuts. Expect to see religion jammed down our throats :puke: Maybe America will be better off with no abortions, Porn banned, strip clubs banned, booze banned, gambling banned, plus host of other fun sin things :luck: I wish they would ban pink panty liberals like you from ever speaking again... Abortions...have you ever seen how it is carried out? How there basicly "whip-up" the baby in the 2nd trimester(by then baby is function as a human being). But like I said in the other BUSH post... Good argument genius. Let me know when you finish cleaning the bathrooms at Burger King and we will go riding... :dthumb:

So busababe comes in, stirs the pot and leaves?! :skep: Where'd you go? Come back and defend yourself! :lol: She did that a month or two ago also. :lol: Great taste in bikes, don't know **** about politics though. lol

All these Bush supporters are going to get what they wished for. With Bush able to stuff Supreme court with religious nuts. Expect to see religion jammed down our throats :puke: Maybe America will be better off with no abortions, Porn banned, strip clubs banned, booze banned, gambling banned, plus host of other fun sin things :luck: Hey, I agree 100% on the religious right, I can't stand them. They are the sole reason I've voted Democrat for the past 10 years.

:us: :wtf: :bthorse: :withstupi GET OVER IT!! DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE LIKE 30 POLITICAL THREADS!!! ANYBODY WHO CREATES ANOTHER POLITICAL THREAD SHOULD BE BANNED!!!! JUST USE THE CURRENT ONES!!! FOR REAL!!!! :wtf:

I wish the would ban pink panty liberals like you from ever speaking again... Abortions...have you ever seen how it is carried out? How there basicly "whip-up" the baby in the 2nd trimester(by then baby is function as a human being). But like I said in the other BUSH post... Good argument genius. Let me know when you finish cleaning the bathrooms at Burger King and we will go riding... :dthumb: Yuo were a debayt majer in colledge werent you? :lol:

:withstupi GET OVER IT!! DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE LIKE 30 POLITICAL THREADS!!! ANYBODY WHO CREATES ANOTHER POLITICAL THREAD SHOULD BE BANNED!!!! JUST USE THE CURRENT ONES!!! FOR REAL!!!! :wtf: :chill:

No but I can you werent an English major.... :)

If so, I apologize for the confusion. apology accepted. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I wish the would ban pink panty liberals like you from ever speaking again... Abortions...have you ever seen how it is carried out? How there basicly "whip-up" the baby in the 2nd trimester(by then baby is function as a human being). But like I said in the other BUSH post... Good argument genius. Let me know when you finish cleaning the bathrooms at Burger King and we will go riding... :dthumb: You want abortions banned, but are unwilling to support child that is not wanted. Maybe if people like you put your money up like your mouth, their would be no need for abortions :thumbs:

No but I can you werent an English major.... :) You can what? :rofl: I said that b/c your spelling was so bad, yet you still called jetski a genius. Just thought it was funny, mang. lol

OMG>>> Make it stop..Make it stop!! and people wonder why I drink & smoke.. :crazy: seriously though, abortion is WAY to heavy of a subject to be discussing in a motorcyle forum..general off topic or not.. People literally end up in jail or worse defending this subject on either stance.

If they don't want what kids keep your d!ck in your pants Again your intelligence is shining though

You want abortions banned, but are unwilling to support child that is not wanted. Maybe if people like you put your money up like your mouth, their would be no need for abortions :thumbs: Whether abortions are right or wrong is a moot point. They're going to happen. . Either you have black market doctors in the back of an alley, or you can at least control it.

If they don't want what kids keep your d!ck in your pants Again your intelligence is shining though Dude, you can't even spell. If you're going to mock someone's intelligence, well then. . fkcit, never mind. Need4Speed, I hear ya. What's your favorite beer? I like Newcastle Brown Ale, the One and Only.

GOD for bid I know I'm going to regret this...but there are some good reasons for abortions. Not 2nd trimesters but get it done now type. The large conservative people always talk about partial birth abortions but that is the worst type. What about rapes, insest victums, and possible birth defect abortions....

Yuo were a debayt majer in colledge werent you? :lol: And you call this spelling?

That was an obvious joke. I agree with some of your points. However, I'm just saying you're not helping your argument mocking someone's intelligence and sarcastically calling them a genius when your replies would get tore up by a 2nd grade teacher with a red pen. That's all.

apology accepted. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Violet, that was the most unexpected response I can think of. Touche :dthumb:

I have a limited time to type do to my demanding job. There for I don't have the convenience of spell and grammar checking my posts. But I'm sure with the comments that he posted he is a very smart and educated man such as your.

GOD for bid I know I'm going to regret this...but there are some good reasons for abortions. Not 2nd trimesters but get it done now type. The large conservative people always talk about partial birth abortions but that is the worst type. What about rapes, insest victums, and possible birth defect abortions.... :thumbs: Those who donot live in real world, think all you have to do is keep you dick in your pants :lol:

I have a limited time to type do to my demanding job. There for I don't have the convenience of spell and grammar checking my posts. But I'm sure with the comments that he posted he is a very smart and educated man such as your. I don't know anyone that runs a spell and grammar check on their posts. However, a basic understanding of grammar should be had before you go around calling people idiots, in so many words. Like I said, I agree with a lot of your points, but the way you put them would be less effective than just pointing at him and calling him a doody head.

:thumbs: Those who donot live in real world, think all you have to do is keep you dick in your pants :lol: SIIHP.

I'm just saying you're not helping your argument mocking someone's intelligence and sarcastically calling them a genius when your replies would get tore up by a 2nd grade teacher with a red pen. Or a 2nd grader, for that matter... :lol:

Or a 2nd grader, for that matter... :lol: (insert witty pic here) :lol:

:thumbs: Those who donot live in real world, think all you have to do is keep you dick in your pants :lol: How else are kids brought into this world? :dthumb:

Violet, that was the most unexpected response I can think of. Touche :dthumb: LOL. :wink: ...hey, the way i see it, I figured we both made our points. what's the point of continuing something that could only deteriorate into, ummm, well... less than civil comes to mind? :p: besides, i couldn't find that "arguing over the internet" picture with the special olympics kid to insert. so that was the next best thing. :lol: :lol: :lol:

(insert witty pic here) :lol: How about you shut face and tend to your fields... :seeya: My G/F is going shopping and want to make sure there is enough beans @ the store. :puke:

How about you shut your face and tend to your fields... My G/F is going shopping and wants to make sure there are enough beans @ the store. http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/pigface//Huh/stopcrack.jpg

Lol :) Tend to the fields...

:lol: No problem, I'm just messing w/ chu mang. :cheers:

Love the pic Pig!!!

Love the pic Pig!!! Thank you sir, that's how we do it on the N-E-T. Straight ballin'. :lol: http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/pigface//Huh/straightballin.jpg

that would make a great part of somebody's signature pig!! :cool:

I don't know, I kinda like this one. :lol: http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/pigface//Huh/agent_w.jpg

Man this one has gotten way out of hand. The burger king reference was priceless.. Don't ever borrow jetski's toothbrush as it is tainted.. lol..

Man this one has gotten way out of hand. The burger king reference was priceless.. Don't ever borrow jetski's toothbrush as it is tainted.. lol.. Since Bush cannot be reelected, we are all DOOMED :mad: Nothing will hold him back now :mad: Better start going to church if you want to fit in :thumbs:

Well, it seems like presidents always do their best work when they don't have to worry about pleasing everyone to keep their vote for next time. At this point, they just want to do something so historically good that it will leave their mark on the future. Hopefully Bush follows the trend, and we get to see his best the next four years. That is the last thing I'm sayin about the election!

Tell me whats good about bush i dont see it? How do u let the big factor not matter? He started a war on false terms and tried 2 more times to change his reasoning, which are all bull ****. trying to make a country free when it doesnt want to be, going for wmd's which there arent any, and freeing the world of sadaam when he did nothing to us? Idk i didnt like kerry but i Voted for Not-Bush, at least it would of been something different not the same bumbling idiot who makes bad decisions.

At this point, they just want to do something so historically good that it will leave their mark on the future. Hopefully Bush follows the trend, and we get to see his best the next four years. That is the last thing I'm sayin about the election! :iagree: It's all up to him, he's his whitehouse back and has the majority of his party surrounding him in the other branchs of the government as well...so he's got every opporunity to succeed.

Dubbs, if you wanted to vote non-bush and didn't like Kerry why didn't you just vote for a 3rd party?

Tell me whats good about bush i dont see it? How do u let the big factor not matter? He started a war on false terms and tried 2 more times to change his reasoning, which are all bull ****. trying to make a country free when it doesnt want to be, going for wmd's which there arent any, and freeing the world of sadaam when he did nothing to us? Idk i didnt like kerry but i Voted for Not-Bush, at least it would of been something different not the same bumbling idiot who makes bad decisions. After that post, you have nerve calling anyone an idiot..... :lol:

not-bush obviously being john kerry, and nothing I sed in that post wasnt true, the saint.

Yeah, you're right. Saddam wasn't such a bad guy. We should have just left him alone... :lol:

Why not? He had nothing to do with us, Should Any country come here and say our leader is unfit? In our eyes Sadaam shouldnt have been a leader. I though he was a bad guy but had nothing to do with us, as long as the UN kept checking up on him we had no right to go and F*ck with another countrys leader. If we dont like englands new leader should we go and arrest him? I mean i know SH was a ****ed up individual but i still dont think we should have went to war because he had no ties to 9/11 and had never attacked us or shown any hostility towards us. AND HE HAD NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.. So bush was wrong in every way for starting this war, you cant dispute that

Saddam acted as if he did have the weapons. He still might have. For years, he told the UN Inspectors to go f**k themselves. He performed genocide on his own people. He paid off the families of suicide bombers. He made an already unstable region even worse. You should know this already. You are not a little kid. When I was 18 I was already aware of what was going on in the world. Fortunately, you are young, and you have plenty of time to learn. Also, you should be able to form complete sentences. Now instead of blindly repeating what you've heard in the liberal media, go and educate yourself, and come back when you know what you are talking about.

But sadaam being a bad person is not the first reason why we went there, He said it was because of 9/11. Which it wasnt, im just going by what he said and what i saw from all the news channels. When he saw o **** its not bout that he made up more reasons. Country is split 51 - 49 its not just me or the young who you say dont know. And the bulk of Bush's Vote were rednecks from the south, and married women. This is how i type, live with it. Because i aint gonna change cause some person on a forum says i should be able to complete sentences, if i cared i would do it, but i dont, its a forum dont be so uptight

But sadaam being a bad person is not the first reason why we went there, He said it was because of 9/11. No. He didn't. Which it wasnt, im just going by what he said and what i saw from all the news channels. When he saw o **** its not bout that he made up more reasons. http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/youngmike//sayagain.gif Country is split 51 - 49 its not just me or the young who you say dont know. Bush is the first President since 1988 to have more than 50% of the vote. He also received more votes than any candidate. EVER. He thrashed Kerry. And the bulk of Bush's Vote were rednecks from the south, and married women. Again, wrong. Maybe you'd like to take a look at this map. http://www.hannity.com/img/election_map04.jpg This is how i type, live with it. Because i aint gonna change cause some person on a forum says i should be able to complete sentences, if i cared i would do it, but i dont, its a forum dont be so uptight I'm not uptight. And I don't have to live with your illiteracy. You unfortunately do, however. I'm just not going to waste any more of my time trying to educate someone who "doesn't care" about being a moron.

Yeah, you're right. Saddam wasn't such a bad guy. We should have just left him alone... :lol: Why Saddam?????????? Plenty of other brutal dictators in this world :mad:

No. He didn't. http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/youngmike//sayagain.gif Bush is the first President since 1988 to have more than 50% of the vote. He also received more votes than any candidate. EVER. He thrashed Kerry. Again, wrong. Maybe you'd like to take a look at this map. http://www.hannity.com/img/election_map04.jpg I'm not uptight. And I don't have to live with your illiteracy. You unfortunately do, however. I'm just not going to waste any more of my time trying to educate someone who "doesn't care" about being a moron. Saint You may be interested in IQ of States who voted for Bush and Kerry ;) http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

Of course the NYer chimes in and has to say his peace about what a dumbas$ Bush is. Yeah let's just let the UN run the country like Clinton did. Let's forget about all the damage that happened during the 8 years of that moron who couldn't keep his d!ck in his pants long enough to do anything worthwhile - the man who kept world leaders waiting while he got a bj. Then let's vote for a bumbling ultra-liberal idiot who's idea of consistency is eating the same caviaer two days in a row. Jesus christ - are you people that dumb? Do you buy into the Billiary bullcrap in NY? Obviously you do because you elected that she-beotch in that state and you continously vote for idiots like Kerry. At least in Michigan we have an excuse - the UAW and all the "what a good union guy would vote" and all that bs along with other non-mentionables. In New York what is the deal? You were the ones who were attacked in 9/11 - I would think you would want to avoid future castrophes not vote in ultra-liberal scumbags like Kerry that would invite future tradegy by non-action. I am still pissed about the WTC and Pentagon and I live nowhere near there - if I lived there I would not be infuriated I would be in Iraq right now gunning mfrs down. But that is just words of a right wing highly patriotic whacko I guess. Try that ***** in Michigan punk as$es.. I will personally hunt you down. Nobody messes with the D and doesn't suffer greatly. Oh Sadam had no weapons of mass destruction? Because the United States never gave weapons to Iraq or Iran or Israel or Saudi Arabi? Must be my imagination and that never happened. The Iran-Contra scandal was just a fig newton of my imagination. The fact that the BCCI has funded billions upon billions of dollars for weapons for terrorists never happened. Mahouf never did any of that - it never happened. Sadam had "no ill will" towards the US. He never brutally slaughtered his own people. You are right none of it ever happened. We should have "butted" out and let the terrorists train some more so they were more well prepared - maybe give them some more weapons and money. Maybe give them better detailed plans of strategtic sites in the US and abroad. Maybe buy into the UN bull**** that we should have waited to apease the world - **** that! You make me sick. You of all people and the people of your state should know better. Get a clue. You and your liberal scum starbucking latte sucking friend jetski i don't know my ass from a hole in the ground so I can't go fast... Go clean the burger king bathroom and then pick up the butts in the parking lot. 4 more years of Bush to eliminate the bs that your friend Clinton did to this country. Then we will be back on track finally.

Of course the NYer chimes in and has to say his peace about what a dumbas$ Bush is. Yeah let's just let the UN run the country like Clinton did. Let's forget about all the damage that happened during the 8 years of that moron who couldn't keep his d!ck in his pants long enough to do anything worthwhile - the man who kept world leaders waiting while he got a bj. Then let's vote for a bumbling ultra-liberal idiot who's idea of consistency is eating the same caviaer two days in a row. Jesus christ - are you people that dumb? Do you buy into the Billiary bullcrap in NY? Obviously you do because you elected that she-beotch in that state and you continously vote for idiots like Kerry. At least in Michigan we have an excuse - the UAW and all the "what a good union guy would vote" and all that bs along with other non-mentionables. In New York what is the deal? You were the ones who were attacked in 9/11 - I would think you would want to avoid future castrophes not vote in ultra-liberal scumbags like Kerry that would invite future tradegy by non-action. I am still pissed about the WTC and Pentagon and I live nowhere near there - if I lived there I would not be infuriated I would be in Iraq right now gunning mfrs down. But that is just words of a right wing highly patriotic whacko I guess. Try that ***** in Michigan punk as$es.. I will personally hunt you down. Nobody messes with the D and doesn't suffer greatly. Oh Sadam had no weapons of mass destruction? Because the United States never gave weapons to Iraq or Iran or Israel or Saudi Arabi? Must be my imagination and that never happened. The Iran-Contra scandal was just a fig newton of my imagination. The fact that the BCCI has funded billions upon billions of dollars for weapons for terrorists never happened. Mahouf never did any of that - it never happened. Sadam had "no ill will" towards the US. He never brutally slaughtered his own people. You are right none of it ever happened. We should have "butted" out and let the terrorists train some more so they were more well prepared - maybe give them some more weapons and money. Maybe give them better detailed plans of strategtic sites in the US and abroad. Maybe buy into the UN bull**** that we should have waited to apease the world - **** that! You make me sick. You of all people and the people of your state should know better. Get a clue. You and your liberal scum starbucking latte sucking friend jetski i don't know my ass from a hole in the ground so I can't go fast... Go clean the burger king bathroom and then pick up the butts in the parking lot. 4 more years of Bush to eliminate the bs that your friend Clinton did to this country. Then we will be back on track finally. DoubleDouble :lol: :lols: Your posts makes me :lol: You cannot be for real :crazy: Better look into some stronger medication :thumbs:

OK you two. It doesn't matter that he is in the office for 4 more years. In 08 we all know its going to be Mudpuppy taking over the White House. :dthumb:

OK you two. its pointless to try and stop it...all we can do is hope to contain it... :crazy: :cool:

its pointless to try and stop it...all we can do is hope to contain it... :crazy: :cool: See what I started when I started the first political thread. Yeah Baby. :D :dthumb:

hey mudpuppy i hate starbucks, and im not a yuppie, and that iq thing is funny and true... Im not an idiot, im in college, im in the top of my class in Networking, i dont take english class, i dont give a **** how i type on the internet, it has absolutely nothing to do with my IQ. Basically, you voted for Bush because he gives you more tax breaks. Regardless of the fact that he is the worlds best terrorist recruiter is irrelevant. Like Jetski sed, "why not attack any other brutal dictator?" Why pick one? Why pick the ****ing middle east? The UN was working then he closed em out, then he let them back in. Mudpuppy has no chance im sorry, u should just take that out of ur sig. I like some of your ideas are good but the fact that you agree with bush and make fun of new yorkers just pisses me off. New York made this country, cant **** with that. See dubya sed WMD's not weapons in general. IRC we never gave iraq weapons...We did however give israel and iran weapons. This is dubyas thought process. WTC gets attacked, Man im pissed, Doesnt cheney own a company that makes military equip? People dont like sadaam, What asanine reason can i make up to give me the right to go to war? I KNOW! The WMD's WE NEVER FOUND! Then we rid the world of sadaam, But hes still runnin iraq just like any gang leader or mafia boss from prison.. Then he sed we will say we "freed the people" who are now beheading soldiers and murdering their own who support america. That **** dont add up for me? IDK if it does for you, but seeing what i see on the news everyday just doesnt sit well with me. This war makes less sense then vietnam, at least then we were stopping the spread of communism even tho the start of it was falsified. If you like a misleading president who wastes human lives for no ****ing reason.. GO AHEAD SUPPORT THAT IDIOT...as for me, ill be looking forward to change.

"hey mudpuppy i hate starbucks, and im not a yuppie, and that iq thing is funny and true... Im not an idiot, im in college,". The IQ numbers were originally attributed to the book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations", though they do not appear in the current edition. The tests and data were administered via the Raven's APT, and the The Test Agency, one of the UK's leading publishers and distributors of psychometric tests. This data has been published in the Economist and the St. Petersburg Times, though this does not mean it should be taken as fact. Stop digging your hole deeper.

HOLY CRAPOLA!!! N4S is right!! You can't stop this titlewave!!!

DoubleDouble :lol: :lols: Your posts makes me :lol: You cannot be for real :crazy: Better look into some stronger medication :thumbs: Ted, you didn't address one of the points that he made. In political threads, all you do is troll, so you get no serious correspondence from now on. You want to talk sushi, that's cool (as it seems you have some base of knowledge there)... :lol:

Im not an idiot, im in college, im in the top of my class in Networking, i dont take english class, i dont give a **** how i type on the internet, it has absolutely nothing to do with my IQ. Right. :lol: http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/youngmike//smart.jpg

Well, it seems like presidents always do their best work when they don't have to worry about pleasing everyone to keep their vote for next time. At this point, they just want to do something so historically good that it will leave their mark on the future. Hopefully Bush follows the trend, and we get to see his best the next four years. That is the last thing I'm sayin about the election! I'll share the tidbit I picked up from NPR (yeah, yeah you neocons, I already know you think its liberally-laced). The commentary was totally non-partisan, and the guy was a poli sci prof at Harvard (I think). He analyzed second terms and in many cases they were not as good as the first. His suggestion of the problem was trying to over-reach. This happened to Roosevelt, and if it wasn't for the Second World War, it was unlikely he'd have won a third term. Roosevelt tried overhauling the justice system, I think. And we all know what happened in Clinton's case. His summary was that the over-reach caused a backlash on the Hill, even when the Legislature was controlled by the same party. Thought it was interesting enough of an insight to share. Take or leave as you please.

Ted, you didn't address one of the points that he made. In political threads, all you do is troll, so you get no serious correspondence from now on. You want to talk sushi, that's cool (as it seems you have some base of knowledge there)... :lol: Saint If you consider posting facts about our lying President troll posts, so be it :sob: Some people have not been sucked in by his scare campaign. 9/11 was best thing to ever happen to Bush. Gave him chance to use fear for his own gain :mad: Bush is getting ready to really screw over Americans next four years :mad: With no worry about reelection, you watch what happens :mad: Hope you enjoy Ashcroft as chief justice of Supreme court, or maybe you will go help out taking over Iran :thumbs:

Sorry, Ted. I'll start answering your questions (no matter how ridiculous), when you do. Until then, you get random pictures... http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/youngmike//littlebear.jpg

Saint, Ted still hasn't answered my questions from three weeks ago. Just like Busa Babe won't respond. The left CAN'T respond when you start talking facts. They throw their hands up and mock everyone that doesn't agree with them. And so that's why the majority spoke and outvoted them by nearly 4,000,000. :thumbs:

Sorry, Ted. I'll start answering your questions (no matter how ridiculous), when you do. Until then, you get random pictures... http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/youngmike//littlebear.jpg :rolleyes: You have learned well from Mr Bush, Mr spin master ;) My favorite sushi chef is pissed at Bush. Bush administration is pushing bill which allows fresh sushi to be labeled fresh, if fish has not been stored below 28 degrees :crazy: Hope you enjoy your frozen sushi :mad:

Just list the good things bush has done, why you voted for him, dont be an asshat just list facts, i really wana know. And The Saint, my grammar is not in question here its how bad bush is.

I love it. . Bush is in office, so no more sushi! You're killin' me. :rofl: I know the bud is arguably the best in the world in northern cal/humbolt, but damnit, clean your bong every now and then. :lol:

And so that's why the majority spoke and outvoted them by nearly 4,000,000. :thumbs: ...and that's gotta sting. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Saint, Ted still hasn't answered my questions from three weeks ago. Just like Busa Babe won't respond. The left CAN'T respond when you start talking facts. They throw their hands up and mock everyone that doesn't agree with them. And so that's why the majority spoke and outvoted them by nearly 4,000,000. :thumbs: About 200 million eligible voters in America ;) Do the math, Bush did not get majority of eligible voters votes. Have to go to the dumps today, have a good day :thumbs:

Just list the good things bush has done, why you voted for him, dont be an asshat just list facts, i really wana know. And The Saint, my grammar is not in question here its how bad bush is. Saint is spin master troll :smash: I bet he does not have the sack to post why he voted for Bush :thumbs:

I love it. . Bush is in office, so no more sushi! You're killin' me. :rofl: I know the bud is arguably the best in the world in northern cal/humbolt, but damnit, clean your bong every now and then. :lol: Thanks to Bush get used to your fresh frozen sushi :mad:

Just list the good things bush has done, why you voted for him, dont be an asshat just list facts, i really wana know. And The Saint, my grammar is not in question here its how bad bush is. I voted for Clinton in 96 and Gore in 2000, and I'm a Republican. I voted for them out of spite for the Religious Right. The reasons I voted for Bush are this. I thought he handled 9/11 better than anyone could have. He didn't freak out, he didn't hesitate, he struck right back, and he struck hard. He took a page from Ronald Reagan if you remember Quadafi shooting our planes down in 86. In response, Reagan called him a "dirty dog" and bombed his house. We had the Trade Center bombed in 1993. The Federal Building in my home town was bombed in 1995. Something you won't hear about in the national media is Terry Nichols met with Al Qaeda operatives in the Fillipines a year before to discuss bomb making. Kerry said Bush is responsible for losing X number of jobs. That tells me that he's incompetent. Bush inherited a recession, we are out of it. We lost 1.2 MILLION jobs in the two weeks following 9/11. That is freely ignored. I don't blame the recession on Clinton, the dot com era created a bubble economy, any economist will tell you that. However, Clinton manipulated the numbers by making drastic military cuts. So, the Trade Center was bombed, the USS Cole, the embassy, etc etc. What did Clinton do? He gave warning and sent a couple cruise missiles into abandoned camps in Afghanistan. Kerry said Bush has taken troops out of Aghanistan to go to Iraq. That's another thing that shows he's either a liar, or incompetant. We have more troops in Afghanistan now than we did two years ago. Bush gave tax cuts to EVERYONE, but Kerry said only the rich got them. Did you get a check? Thought so. That's a basic funamental difference in economics. . but, lowering taxes generates revenue, which in turn helps the economy. I can't even fathom what raising taxes would do to a struggling economy. . it would kill it. Bush knows that the world is not a safe place, and he knows you can't just sit around and talk about making it better. It requires action. Saddam had every chance in the world to comply with the UN. For 12 years he gave them the finger. UN inspectors came out and said just a few weeks ago that yeah, he was manipulating them. Whether he has weapons hidden in the west bank, jordan, etc, remains to be seen. It's the principle of it. How in the hell are you going to negotiate with your enemies if they don't think you're for real? Iran is laughing at France and Germany right now b/c they know they won't do a damn thing. England is in there and that's the only thing that's even making the talks possible. You cannot give terrorists and like-minded people an inch, they'll take a mile France has tried pacifism, yet their subways get bombed by Algerians just about every year for the past 20. Worked well for them. Fight the war over there, not here. Changes do NOT happen over night, that's what Kerry and the like don't understand. Even with a Constitution as perfect as ours, it still took women 150 years to get the right to vote. It's easy to sit around on a campus and say, "Well, the world hates us, lets be nice and everything will be okay." It sounds nice, but it doesn't work that way. In the 80s the same people thought Reagan was a wreckless war-mongering cowboy that didn't know ****. Reagan ended the cold war, not Jimmy Carter. If you want to know anything more specific, feel free to ask.

You're wasting your time, Piggy. No matter how many times you present the facts to some people, it's just going to fall upon deaf ears. Though I will say that (because of his youth) Dubbs has a chance. Ted is just too far gone, too brainwashed, and therefore a complete waste of time. Better to just poke fun at him... :lol:

I agree action needed to be taken, but why on Iraq? If anything we should invade Saudi Arabia b/c thats where all these terrorists come from. Its like the terrorist capitol of the world. If i were Bush i woulda attacked them. I know that Sadaam was being an ******* about the whole inspection things but that didnt mean that he had weapons and has proven to be so. He killed his own ppl and was such a bad dictator but ppl are still fighting for him for some reason. Why not Saudi Arabia is all im sayin

I agree action needed to be taken, but why on Iraq? If anything we should invade Saudi Arabia b/c thats where all these terrorists come from. Its like the terrorist capitol of the world. If i were Bush i woulda attacked them. I know that Sadaam was being an ******* about the whole inspection things but that didnt mean that he had weapons and has proven to be so. He killed his own ppl and was such a bad dictator but ppl are still fighting for him for some reason. Why not Saudi Arabia is all im sayin Saudi did not sponsor terrorism, and Saudi has been one of our allies for decades, regardless of what some will try to tell you. Bin Laden is Saudi, that doesn't mean anything. Zawahari is Jordanian, that doesn't mean anything either. They both fought in Afghanistan. Zawahari fled and went to Iraq, not Iran, not Saudi, not UAE. Saddam was paying $25,000 to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. Did you notice a decrease in suicide bombings in Gaza after Saddam was captured? The ones fighting in Iraq, the insurgents or whatever you want to call them, are former members of Saddam's Baathist party. They know they'll no longer have carte blanch to do whatever they want. The others fighting with them are guys like Zawahari. . freelance terrorists essentially that have things in common with the likes of Al Qaeda and Hamas. Interestingly enough, he pledged allegience to Al Qaeda week before last. Some people imply that these insurgents would be living productive lives if we weren't there. The same people also imply that the Iraqis are not fighting along side us. The media will only show places like Fallujah b/c it makes a good story. They're not showing the good things we've done over there, and they won't. FoxNews beat the other networks by NINE TO ONE on election night. There's a reason. . people are waking up and seeing the bs coming out of the major networks and papers like the NY Times. Invading Saudi makes no sense what-so-ever. That makes about as much sense as attacking ourselves because that's where Johnny Jihad is from. I know many people would like one black and white answer in a neat little package, and I know that most people don't have the attention span to learn about what's really happening. That's understandable, but some people are willing to learn. Saint will testify that I used to be one of the most liberal people on the forums as little as 4 years ago, eventhough I am a Republican. I'm not telling you what to think, just read as much as you can, from as many sources as you can.

You're wasting your time, Piggy. No matter how many times you present the facts to some people, it's just going to fall upon deaf ears. Though I will say that (because of his youth) Dubbs has a chance. Ted is just too far gone, too brainwashed, and therefore a complete waste of time. Better to just poke fun at him... :lol: Fair enough. :lol:

NY made this country? That is the funniest statement yet. That sesspool of a city ain't worth the tobacco spit in Bush's spitoon. I do have to say though you actually take the time to make intelligent responses unlike our boy ********** and I commend you for that. Could I list things that Bush has done? Sure. Will I do it now? No. It is lunch and I have to go eat. I will get back to you on that when I have more time even though I feel like we are wasting time here and this is a pointless arguement because no matter how many facts I throw out there you will ignore them and say they are not true or spin them off somehow. Yes we did give weapons to Iraq. Do you want names, dates, quantities, descriptions, etc.? Do you want to know about the chemical warfare we gave Iraq that they used on a daily basis on Iran? I can give you a slew of facts my misguided NY loving fellow pw.

You Republicans are funny. Nothing is ever your fault. The bad economy was Clinton and the reason why the middle east is the way it is is Clinton. Whatever. Take some responsibility and realize the Repbulicans are just as much at fault as Democrats. :here:

You Republicans are funny. Nothing is ever your fault. The bad economy was Clinton and the reason why the middle east is the way it is is Clinton. Whatever. Take some responsibility and realize the Repbulicans are just as much at fault as Democrats. :here: I never said that. If you're going to bash us, at least have the courtesy to read what we wrote. Everyone is at fault, both parties are a wreck. I'm not one of the ones that blames everything on Clinton. . hindsight is 20-20, I realize that, and I honestly did like Clinton. That's why I voted for him in 1996 eventhough I'm a Republican.

I never said that. If you're going to bash us, at least have the courtesy to read what we wrote. Right, Pig. Like that's going to happen. You might as well ask a Democrat to stop whining..... :lol:

lol I understand where she's coming from, it's just sad to see some people get so worked up and emotional when they've been so badly misinformed.

lol I understand where she's coming from, it's just sad to see some people get so worked up and emotional when they've been so badly misinformed. In fairness to both.. How can you NOT be misinformed? If you listen to AM talk radio (Rush et al), all you get is the Conservative agenda. Democrat bashing. The other options are print and TV media, always tagged as liberal. Democratic viewpoints disguised as fact. What's left? The internet?

we all know if its on the interent, its 100% fact right? :rolleyes: so..what are we left with..to sit down with our thoughts, morals, and make an informed decision based on what you and you alone think. If everybody did that, I'd think we'd be a much better place..but thats just me..

In fairness to both.. How can you NOT be misinformed? If you listen to AM talk radio (Rush et al), all you get is the Conservative agenda. Democrat bashing. The other options are print and TV media, always tagged as liberal. Democratic viewpoints disguised as fact. What's left? The internet? I HATE Limbaugh, can't stand him. You have a valid point though. Everyone is going to get misinformation, it's inevitable. But, you take what you know and apply common sense. If someone tells you that John Kerry can go sit down with all of the nations of the world and have bilateral talks with the likes of North Korea and Iran. . get our troops out of Iraq. . bring stability to Iraq. . get national health care. . increase national security and funding for the troops. . and cut the deficit in half in 4 years, and have success at all of those things? And they believe it? Yeah, that's misinformed. lol