hey ladies advice please!

Hey ladies first off let me appologize for barging in on the "ladies" section. I know there are guys that speak up in here but don't know how people feel about guys starting threads here, but I really wanted to get all your perspectives on the subject. Ok so heres the story. Me and my girl dated for about 5 years, she wants to have kids and I always said I didn't. We broke up about 2 months ago because she decided that if we wanted diffrent things 5 years was enough time to waste on a relationship that has no future. since then I have realized that the whole not wanting to have kids thing was just me being stubborn. I once mentioned to my mom that I didnt think I wanted kids and she said "oh you gotta have kids" well me being the bull headed moran I can be sometimes decided that no one was gonna tell me that I should have kids. Well the more people who told me I needed kids the more I decided that I wasn't gonna have them. Anyway now shes not my girl anymore and I realized that my life don't make sense with out her. I love her more than life its self and I want her back... not just for as my girlfriend but I want her with me for ever. so this coming saturday Im going to propose to her. We still talk nearly everyday and her friends tell me there is NO WAY she would EVER in a millon years say no. so anyway thats just a little background on us. My plan right now is to swing by and pick her up this sat. around 6 or so and go to our favorite spot where we used to go to watch the stars and stuff, Im just gonna put on some music and sit and talk to her while the sun sets. Then I want to explaine to her that I have been being stubborn and apologize to her for acting like such and ass for the past 4 years. Then when "our" song comes on im going to ask her to dance with me in the bed of my truck. While we are dancing I plan to tell her that all I want is to be with her and give her everything in life she wants including a family. Then you know the whole one knee routine. lol after she HOPEFULLY says yes I have her closest girlfriends and my good friends coming into town and waiting at a bar I rented out. so afterwords Im gonna run her over there so she can be with the people she cares about and would want to share it with her. Keeping in mind that we are both pretty much red necks, so the dancing in the bed of the truck thing isn't quite as corny to us as it might seem to others, what do you think of my plan. I really want it to be special for her and show her how much I really care about her. Is there anything that you think I should do diffrently or what ever. I know its not gonna go exactly as scripted but thats the basic plan. So any advice would be great. Other than "don't do it man!" lol Ive been on of the biggest anti marriage guys for a long time but thats because I have been lying to myself about how much I love her. I tried to convince myself I didn't need her but now that shes gone I know thats not true. I have no motivation to do anything anymore. If shes not with me I have nothing left to work for. I can't focus at work, I have no motivation to work on the house or anything. Shes everything to me and I CANNOT lose her not matter what. anyway let me know what you guys think.

Paragraphs brother. Paragraphs.

Paragraphs brother. Paragraphs. c'mon marko the guys pouring his heart out, and all you have to offer is grammar advice?:tt:

:luck: man :thumbs:

I am not a chick, but I gotta admit... Reading this put a little smile on my face... If you guys talk every day and you can call her up and go out whenever you like... You really aren't broken up... Sounds like you guys just taking a short pause... And if you are sure about your feelings... IE not just sick of punchin' your clown, then go for it. Your plan is money. The only part I would change is the rented out bar because you are gonna get mad skins in the back of your truck immediately... Of course, I guess then you can go to the bar... Surely though, it sounds like it will be just what it should be... a great story to tell your grandkids...:dthumb: :luck:

I am not a chick, but I gotta admit... Reading this put a little smile on my face... If you guys talk every day and you can call her up and go out whenever you like... You really aren't broken up... Sounds like you guys just taking a short pause... And if you are sure about your feelings... IE not just sick of punchin' your clown, then go for it. Your plan is money. The only part I would change is the rented out bar because you are gonna get mad skins in the back of your truck immediately... Of course, I guess then you can go to the bar... Surely though, it sounds like it will be just what it should be... a great story to tell your grandkids...:dthumb: :luck: this is a good point OSP. make sure you're thinking w/ your head and not with your other head. Many a time somebody's gotten out of a relationship and the absence of sex can lead them to do silly things. worst part is you really wont know unless you are VERY honest with yourself. and thats hard to do as you obviously have some love pangs goin on. hard **** to deal with, i know. The girl i was gonna pop the question to is havin some other guys baby this may. i've been so f*cked up about it but the one benefit is you can see other people making the same mistakes and try to straighten them out. :luck: man, your plan sounds bullet proof tho!

this is a good point OSP. make sure you're thinking w/ your head and not with your other head. Many a time somebody's gotten out of a relationship and the absence of sex can lead them to do silly things. worst part is you really wont know unless you are VERY honest with yourself. and thats hard to do as you obviously have some love pangs goin on. hard **** to deal with, i know. The girl i was gonna pop the question to is havin some other guys baby this may. i've been so f*cked up about it but the one benefit is you can see other people making the same mistakes and try to straighten them out. :luck: man, your plan sounds bullet proof tho! Going out and laying more pipe than a 7-handed plumber helps... Especially if you can score one of her friends... You know the one you thought about every once in a while when you were buttering your GF's loaf... It doesn't fix it 100%, but it's one step in the healing process... So I am really surprised non of the ladies have chimed in... In my experience asking a woman for love/sex advice is like showing a starved wolf a skinned rabbit... Let's go ladies!

Don't sweat the parenthood thing. I never wanted kids either, but I married my wife just the same. She said she didn't either for a while, but that was probably :bs:. Eventually she was ready and was pretty damn adamant about it. We had a son and it took me a while to come around on the whole dad thing. Now I have two boys (2 and 4), and I wouldn't trade them for the world. I still don't like kids much, but I love mine. :wink:

Thanks guys! Trust me I thought about the sex thing. meaning maybe I was just feeling this way because I missed the sex...which by the way is better than I could put into words!! LOL but the thing is..... I could get it. In fact Ive had SEVERAL offers..... not that Im like "the man" or anything. I have at least three girls I know I could call right now and be "buttering their loaves" (lol thats a good one) with in the hour. I fact is I don't want to. Ive thought about it and even tried to talk myself into it but I just don't care. I also thought about the "mad skins" in the back of the truck. (lol you guys are full of them) I also factored in some time for that. not that it will happen for sure but if there is the chance Im sure not gonna pass it up. sun should be setting around 7:15 or so and I told the people I would have her to the bar by around 8-830 which should give me about and hour or so. I figure since its been about 2 months that should be plenty of time. lol anyway thanks again guys keep the suggestions coming. hopefully the ladies will speak up soon to.

Paragraphs brother. Paragraphs. lol yeah I know grammer was NEVER my strong point. sorry hope it didn't give you all too bad of a headache!!!

lol yeah I know grammer was NEVER my strong point. sorry hope it didn't give you all too bad of a headache!!! :lol: I'm just bustin balls here. :cheers: Carry on.

Dude, buy a Xbox 360. You'll forget about her in no time. Thanks for the laughs. Let's work on paragraphs. :luck: this Saturday. From the sound of it, I don't think you'll need it.

As a voice of dissention: Dont propose. Buy another motorcycle. :idk:

As a voice of dissention: Dont propose. Buy another motorcycle. :idk: LOL yeah I thought about that. The problem was the bike shop couldn't get me approved for a new bike. The jewler could however get me financing on a ring. :idk: Go figure! Everyone knows bikes are much more useful than rings, but oh well.

LOL yeah I thought about that. The problem was the bike shop couldn't get me approved for a new bike. The jewler could however get me financing on a ring. :idk: Go figure! Everyone knows bikes are much more useful than rings, but oh well. Well at least you tried. :lol: :cheers:

Dude, buy a Xbox 360. You'll forget about her in no time. LOL I got one and don't think my thumbs aren't raw from playing over the last month.... I MEAN PLAYING THE 360!!! I know what you perverts were thinking. LOL J/K

mmmmm, cordless vibration... how much the ring set you back?

Good luck bro... I hope things work out for ya... :luck:

:luck: good luck bro...

okay, here's the first advice from a lady. make DAMN sure you are serious about having kids. bearing children is serious for us ladies, so if you are all on the fence about that decision, please do not go through with this. creating a life is nothing to take lightly. it is a lot of work and involves both people, so don't just agree because you are a little lonely (not that i am at all saying this is your reason). i just want you to know how serious this is to us ladies. be sure you are doing this for the right reasons and you will not back out down the road when pressured. make sure you are on the same page and want the same things in life, otherwise it isn't fair for either of you. as long as you have come to terms with what i have stated above and are sure this is the right decision for you, then i say go for it! it sounds like you both really want to be together and are made for eachother. good luck! :dthumb: one more word of advice...it is rare for a girl to say no to a diamond, but sometimes it does happen. just remember...the bigger the rock the better your chances. :wink: (i speak from experience)

So I am really surprised non of the ladies have chimed in... In my experience asking a woman for love/sex advice is like showing a starved wolf a skinned rabbit... Let's go ladies! :tt: That said, I agree with Itgirl, make sure that you are really okay with having kids, cuz once their there, thats it, no going back!! Sounds like a good plan, let us know how everything goes!!

:luck: dude, let us know how it goes. That sounds like the perfect redneck proposal (most of my relatives are rednecks so I don't mean any disrespect by that).

Awww, I am so excited for you! I agree with ItGirl, just be sure you want to have kids b/c if you dont and then you have them anyway your going to have some resentment, etc. I always thought I'd have kids but now that I'm older and with someone who doesn't want them, I am just fine without them. It sounds like you've thought about it long and hard so go for it! I can't wait to hear how it went next Saturday, and I think thats very romantic what you have planned out. :luck: :cheers:

http://www.alas10encasa.com/imagenes/jerry-mcguire.jpg "YOU HAD ME AT REDNECK...YOU HAD ME AT REDNECK!" DO IT... hell if you fail we will have another poll option What bike should I get? 1. Honda 2. Suzuki 3. Yamaha 4. ride taters whore of an ex wife instead 5. HA! Frost got shot down!

Thanks guys! Trust me I thought about the sex thing. meaning maybe I was just feeling this way because I missed the sex...which by the way is better than I could put into words!! LOL but the thing is..... I could get it. In fact Ive had SEVERAL offers..... not that Im like "the man" or anything. I have at least three girls I know I could call right now and be "buttering their loaves" (lol thats a good one) with in the hour. I fact is I don't want to. Ive thought about it and even tried to talk myself into it but I just don't care. I also thought about the "mad skins" in the back of the truck. (lol you guys are full of them) I also factored in some time for that. not that it will happen for sure but if there is the chance Im sure not gonna pass it up. sun should be setting around 7:15 or so and I told the people I would have her to the bar by around 8-830 which should give me about and hour or so. I figure since its been about 2 months that should be plenty of time. lol anyway thanks again guys keep the suggestions coming. hopefully the ladies will speak up soon to. You could hit it three times and get a good nap in! Excellent planning! :luck:

http://www.alas10encasa.com/imagenes/jerry-mcguire.jpg "YOU HAD ME AT REDNECK...YOU HAD ME AT REDNECK!" DO IT... hell if you fail we will have another poll option What bike should I get? 1. Honda 2. Suzuki 3. Yamaha 4. ride taters whore of an ex wife instead 5. HA! Frost got shot down! :rofl: where's Kawi in your poll!?:tt: all joke'n asside... Frost, dude good luck.. just make sure your 100% this is what you want... if for no other reason you care about this girl and you don't want to crush her if you realize a month or five years down the road that you really don't want kids... or worse... AFTER YOU'VE HAD THEM which brings up another point... you know now that your agreeing that you want kids... she's gonna want them SOON... are you THAT ready?:2cents: :dthumb: :luck:

Wow, that's deep. However... Rule 37: There are no girls on the internet, period. I think we saw Rule 37 come into play on the first page of this thread. Nothing but guys in a "ladies" section.

wow you guys were busy so far today, thats good to see. Well Ill try to remember everything I was gonna answer. First about being 100% sure I want kids. YES!!! I am. Looking back everytime I pictured my life with her it always had kids in it. I thought at first it was because I knew if she was going to be with me I would have to have kids but now I relalize that I want them to. I want to watch them grow up, teach them things that I didn't get to learn as a kid... (like bikes and horses and stuff) I can't picture a life with her with out children... and I can't picture my life with out her so.... yeah I do want to have kids. As far as when.... I am figureing she is going to change her mind a bit once we are married and stuff but she said she doesn't want to have kids for 4-5 years. she is graduating college this year and really wants to have a good career started before the kids. Now I know that kids are a completely life changing thing so I know that you cannot plan when, where, how and all that stuff im just telling you what she says. So I don't think she is gonna be in a huge rush to have them. ummm what else. Oh someone mentioned wanting the same things in life. Its amazing how much our "dreams" are identical. We want EXACTLY the same things out of life. well she doesn't really want a collection of like 100 bikes but she don't mind if I have one. LOL and as far as the "bigger the better" ring thing.. I kinda figured that the problem is I got my money wrapped up in three diffrent houses right now so its not a HUGE dimond or anything. its JUST under a carrot (sp?) and set me back about 2K so its not like tiny or anything.. I don't think anyway. And no worries about offending me by callin me a redneck. Im redneck and proud!! LOL So dancing under the stars in the back of a pick up sounds right up our alley! LOL well I think thats it so thanks for the suggestions and keep em comin!!!! oh and sorry about the lack of paragraphs again! like I said Im a redneck Im glad when i figure out how to turn the computer ON!!!

:dthumb: ok.... I think this has gone long enough... :nopicsbs: :lol:

:dthumb: ok.... I think this has gone long enough... :nopicsbs: :lol: yep you know the routine we have to have pics so we can start the :lhump: ing....:lol:

This is the most important decision in your life and sounds like your ready so go for the gold! :dthumb: Get her a ring that says "TWF"....The Wife Forever :lol:

Get her a ring that says "TWF"....The Wife Forever :lol: LAME LAME LAME:dupe: :dupe: :dupe: J/p

Yeah that was pretty lame, I could have done a lot better.

My advice on marriage and kids: Don't have them until you've been married (or at least together) a few years. You need time to enjoy being with each other before it becomes a threesome. (My wife and I dated for 2 years and were married for 5 before we had our first son.) But don't wait too long like a lot of people seem to be doing. The probability of complications rise with a mother's age, plus you may not want to reach retirement age at the same time your kids reach college age (assuming you plan to send them there, at least). NEVER have kids in a bid to save a failing marriage. I have not been in that situation, but I do have kids so I can appreciate what a horrible plan that must be. Raising kids, done right, is simultaneously one of the most difficult and rewarding experiences you can go through. But it is more likely to drive a couple apart rather than bring them together. http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a55/l48shark/jacked.jpg :luck: and let us know how it goes!

one more word of advice...it is rare for a girl to say no to a diamond, but sometimes it does happen. just remember...the bigger the rock the better your chances. :wink: (i speak from experience) :iagree: Anywho, that sounds like a romantic proposal I'm sure it will go well. It also sounds like you've thought everything through well and know what you're getting into. I agree that you should probably wait a few years at least to have kids though. Just as a precaution. Good luck! :dthumb:

Ill work on gettin some pics....Im assuming you mean pics of her and not me. lol

Ill work on gettin some pics....Im assuming you mean pics of her and not me. lol :skep: why would we want to see you :lhump: ? :scratch: :lol:

Yeah, man. Fu*k trophies are serious business.

karat....:cheers: :luck: man

Going out and laying more pipe than a 7-handed plumber helps... Especially if you can score one of her friends... You know the one you thought about every once in a while when you were buttering your GF's loaf... It doesn't fix it 100%, but it's one step in the healing process... So I am really surprised non of the ladies have chimed in... In my experience asking a woman for love/sex advice is like showing a starved wolf a skinned rabbit... Let's go ladies! Friend nothing, Score with her sister man!!! That'll put a smile on your face when she learns about it!!, Given the sister's not like 2, If no sister, either hot mom, or best friend will do!!:lol: :lol:

Well being from a somewhat small town and dancing in back of trucks first off you've got the perfect plan laid out. But second off... you need to make sure this is what you want. Sometimes when we are withotu someone we convince ourselves that maybe we need them, and that we can't do it on our own. That then leads us to believe things that we wouldn't have before. Now from the lengths you are willing to go for this girl, I'm sure you really do love her and want to be with her. But please PLEASE PLEASE make sure 19402392% for sure. The worst thing is the world is to get back rushed with that commitment and not being able to handle it because from a girls stand point I can guarantee you will lose her for good. I hope this all works out, because any girl in her right mind would love this for sure :) I know I would!! Good luck hunny!! :luck:

is it the weekend yet???

is it the weekend yet??? Well, not for the normal people out there, but it is for me. Yesterday was my Friday!!

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is it the weekend yet??? lol youre telling me!!! this has been the LONGEST week of my life!!! Im dying here. I just got a call from the jewler and the ring is done. Im takin off work tomarrow. its been hell getting through the first 3 days, the fourth hasn't even started yet, so theres no way im making through friday!!!! I never thought it would be this hard to wait a few days, I mean we dated for 5 years and I was never in a rush. I guess once I made the decision I was ready to act on it. IM wondering more and more everyday how I convinced myself I didn't want kids. I saw like 10 things today already that I would have LOVED to buy for my children!!!! I know I won't be able to afford them all but a few toys would be cool. Im just worried about the first few years cause I don't really know what IM doing with babies. My mom says not to worry cause no one does when they have kids, but she says that she DOES know what to do and anytime I need advice, help, or just a break from them to swing by. so I guess I got some back up on that.

I went through the same thing when I bought my wife's ring. I was antsy waiting for it to be done...and then when I had it I was twitchy.

Ok, so its 12:15 EST and I sure hope everything went well and your celebrating at the bar!!!! :cheers:

Ok, so its 12:15 EST and I sure hope everything went well and your celebrating at the bar!!!! :cheers: :withstupi hopefully Congratulation are in order!:hawk:

Maybe they're still getting busy. :idk:

Hey UPDATE PLEASE!!!!!! :here: :here:

Maybe they're still getting busy. :idk: Doubtful. :lol:

I'm going with no news is good news... :luck:

Hey guys. well she said YES!!! Im thrilled. I feel like a HUGE weight was just lifted off my chest. Everything went PERFECT!!! The weather was iffy all day but I decided to go for the original plan and about 45 min before I picked her up it stopped raining and the rain held off the rest of the night. It was a BEAUTIFUL night! we went out to eat and then out to the country road and talked and listened to music. We started dancing and I told her that with out her my life didnt make sense. I told her that I had thought about it and decided that I really did want to have a family with her. She got a little choked up then and I said "you don't belive me do you" she said she thought I was just saying it to get her back and I told her I figured she would feel that way so I knew I had to do something to really show her how serious I really was. Then I got down on one knee and she got REAL excited!!! and I asked her to marry me, she said "OF COURSE" I took it as a good sign that she didn't even look at the ring for about 10 min. Im hopin that means that she was more concerned about what it means than what it looks like. We just kept dancing and holding each other and then took off (rippin up the muddy feild a little, I mean it was a serious event but like I said Im a red neck and Im not passin up a perfect opportunity to do some muddin) and went to the party. everyone was havin a BLAST. My buddy was DJ and we all drank and danced till we could hardly stand anymore. Then we went back to my house and drank some more! LOL Anyway thanks for all the advice and stuff guys I really appreciate it. Ill work on getting some pics up ASAP! shes a hottie!!! well at least I think so!

Hey guys. well she said YES!!! Im thrilled. I feel like a HUGE weight was just lifted off my chest. Everything went PERFECT!!! The weather was iffy all day but I decided to go for the original plan and about 45 min before I picked her up it stopped raining and the rain held off the rest of the night. It was a BEAUTIFUL night! we went out to eat and then out to the country road and talked and listened to music. We started dancing and I told her that with out her my life didnt make sense. I told her that I had thought about it and decided that I really did want to have a family with her. She got a little choked up then and I said "you don't belive me do you" she said she thought I was just saying it to get her back and I told her I figured she would feel that way so I knew I had to do something to really show her how serious I really was. Then I got down on one knee and she got REAL excited!!! and I asked her to marry me, she said "OF COURSE" I took it as a good sign that she didn't even look at the ring for about 10 min. Im hopin that means that she was more concerned about what it means than what it looks like. We just kept dancing and holding each other and then took off (rippin up the muddy feild a little, I mean it was a serious event but like I said Im a red neck and Im not passin up a perfect opportunity to do some muddin) and went to the party. everyone was havin a BLAST. My buddy was DJ and we all drank and danced till we could hardly stand anymore. Then we went back to my house and drank some more! LOL Anyway thanks for all the advice and stuff guys I really appreciate it. Ill work on getting some pics up ASAP! shes a hottie!!! well at least I think so! Congrats Frosty. And that made me laugh right there.

Congrats Frosty. And that made me laugh right there. :withstupi on both accounts... that's awesome...

Hey guys. well she said YES!!! Im thrilled. I feel like a HUGE weight was just lifted off my chest. Everything went PERFECT!!! The weather was iffy all day but I decided to go for the original plan and about 45 min before I picked her up it stopped raining and the rain held off the rest of the night. It was a BEAUTIFUL night! we went out to eat and then out to the country road and talked and listened to music. We started dancing and I told her that with out her my life didnt make sense. I told her that I had thought about it and decided that I really did want to have a family with her. She got a little choked up then and I said "you don't belive me do you" she said she thought I was just saying it to get her back and I told her I figured she would feel that way so I knew I had to do something to really show her how serious I really was. Then I got down on one knee and she got REAL excited!!! and I asked her to marry me, she said "OF COURSE" I took it as a good sign that she didn't even look at the ring for about 10 min. Im hopin that means that she was more concerned about what it means than what it looks like. We just kept dancing and holding each other and then took off (rippin up the muddy feild a little, I mean it was a serious event but like I said Im a red neck and Im not passin up a perfect opportunity to do some muddin) and went to the party. everyone was havin a BLAST. My buddy was DJ and we all drank and danced till we could hardly stand anymore. Then we went back to my house and drank some more! LOL Anyway thanks for all the advice and stuff guys I really appreciate it. Ill work on getting some pics up ASAP! shes a hottie!!! well at least I think so! I hope there was some mad naked love before the muddin'...

I hope there was some mad naked love before the muddin'... LOL nah we were runnin kinda late so we waited till that night!!!

LOL nah we were runnin kinda late so we waited till that night!!! Nice, dude. Drunk sex! Where you're damn near invincible.

Nice, dude. Drunk sex! Where you're damn near invincible. :withstupi Funniest stuff ever!! :dthumb: Congrats man glad it worked out for you guys!!!

Alright guys, time to stop the :bs: and let ol' Frost know how screwed he is! http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a55/l48shark/GameOver.png :zowned: http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a55/l48shark/drinking.gif

Congrats!!! :)

congrats man!

congrats man... I know it was one of the best decisions I ever made.:dthumb:

:dthumb: Awesome, congrats to you!!!

congrats man... I know it was one of the best decisions I ever made.:dthumb: Guys that feel that way... will definitely make it far :)

ah! I been with my girl for 7yrs, it's like we are married, does that count? im only 20, so you can only imagine what kinda **** we have been through :s

congrats!

o-yeah congrats :) sorry for the :jacked:

And remember if u pass up muddin... http://www.stealthbadger.com/content/images/gtfo.jpg

Guys that feel that way... will definitely make it far :) Hey if you remember the other thread then you know I made the right decision. :dthumb:

Congrats man... :dthumb: Best of luck to ya! :cheers:

Hey if you remember the other thread then you know I made the right decision. :dthumb: :cheers: :wink:

congrats man! :cheers: :dthumb: