K1200r

Some more info here (http://www.insidebikes.com/news/archives_2000/news_details.asp?id=3476) Its not bad looking at all...kind cool, atleast I think.. im too sure about that headlight setup though, or that windshield, or lack thereof.

I think that is a very very very sweet looking bike. I am looking forward to seeing some mag articles pitting it against bikes like the SV1000 and the Z-1000 and such.

So I will be the first to say :puke: :puke: I am not liking anything on that thing. But thats me. :)

if i was into BMW's more, i'd probably be all over this..but i think its kinda cool looking for a naked standard/sport type bike.

Aw its naked alright. It barely has headlights and a windscreen. :D

More I look at it, more I like it. BMW has me sold on S bike ;)

it does kinda grow on you doesnt it? im still trying to figure out why the didnt make that windshield alittle more visible and with some more substance to it. i just looks stuck there..maybe put a nice little fairing on it, nothing big, but either way, i think its kinda bad a$$ looking...

More I look at it, more I like it. BMW has me sold on S bike ;) I hope so, because with you riding a ***** box like that. I will have no problem disposing of you and your flapping gums. :dthumb:

I hope so, because with you riding a ***** box like that. I will have no problem disposing of you and your flapping gums. :dthumb: You able to ride your bike longer than hour before putting it back on trailer :lol:

WOW, I'm not up-to-date on the arguement but I think somebody is barking up the wrong tree!!! But that may just be a mis-guided oberservation!!!

WOW, I'm not up-to-date on the arguement but I think somebody is barking up the wrong tree!!! But that may just be a mis-guided oberservation!!! nope, ur right..it went from hey, this is a wild lookin bike, to who's gonna kick who's a$$ in the twisties.. :wink:

nope, ur right..it went from hey, this is a wild lookin bike, to who's gonna kick who's a$$ in the twisties.. :wink: Looks like somebody is tring to twisty this thread up :mad:

Looks like somebody is tring to twisty this thread up :mad: nope..just trying to get gas man on the right page.. :lol:

Been reading remapping to take out emissions of S and R bike is producing near 200 HP :smash:

Been reading remapping to take out emissions of S and R bike is producing near 200 HP :smash: Hey monkey fu cker, it my have (in your dreams)200hp but it still is a fat pig, like yourself.

Hey monkey fu cker, it my have (in your dreams)200hp but it still is a fat pig, like yourself. Maybe when you grow up you can afford one :thumbs: Like second rate racers know what they are talking about :smash:

Been reading remapping to take out emissions of S and R bike is producing near 200 HP :smash: Where is the article you're reading? If you have found some magic way to increase 50-70 HP by remapping and bypassing Cali emissions only, without any other mods, I want to know about that.

Yeah this guy should be working for a my race team instead of flipping da burgers.

Where is the article you're reading? If you have found some magic way to increase 50-70 HP by remapping and bypassing Cali emissions only, without any other mods, I want to know about that. First off 30 HP will get S motor to 200HP ;) BMW is setup with strick emissions settings, which also includes restrictive catalytic converter. You do the math will removing cat and remapping gain any HP on a choked emissions motor?

Yeah but 30hp. I highly doubt it. My be 15 to 20 at the most.

First off 30 HP will get S motor to 200HP ;) BMW is setup with strick emissions settings, which also includes restrictive catalytic converter. You do the math will removing cat and remapping gain any HP on a choked emissions motor? Obviously you didn't read my post, I asked you what article you were reading. Could you provide the information I asked for? besides, You show me the math, How much HP can you gain by removing the Cat, and resetting fuel delivery?? Show me the Dyno curve from the runs. What is the formula to calculate the potential gain in HP even before you dyno it? People who know what they are talking about can do all of the above from the specs provided for the mods before they are installed. They can "do the math" before the mods, and the dyno runs, which will be needed to perform the remapping by the way, so you can produce them if they exist, will only verify and validate their math. I can see your posts aren't backed up with data. Do you even have a clue about this? Maybe instead of trying to show off your checkbook, you should pick up a real book. Now, again, Can you provide the sources for this article you claim you were reading, please?

Obviously you didn't read my post, I asked you what article you were reading. Could you provide the information I asked for? besides, You show me the math, How much HP can you gain by removing the Cat, and resetting fuel delivery?? Show me the Dyno curve from the runs. What is the formula to calculate the potential gain in HP even before you dyno it? People who know what they are talking about can do all of the above from the specs provided for the mods before they are installed. They can "do the math" before the mods, and the dyno runs, which will be needed to perform the remapping by the way, so you can produce them if they exist, will only verify and validate their math. I can see your posts aren't backed up with data. Do you even have a clue about this? Maybe instead of trying to show off your checkbook, you should pick up a real book. Now, again, Can you provide the sources for this article you claim you were reading, please? Your silly post stated 50HP to 70HP with remapping :lol: Where did I post remapping and removal of cat would increase 50 to 70 HP :smash: If you read my post, I said S motor with remapping and cat removal NEAR 200HP :yesnod: S and R bike have not even been released to public, test bikes are running around Europe. Remapping and removal of cat produced 20 HP range increase on K1200RS, I will take that on my S bike ;) German dyno stock S bike 171 HP at crank 157 HP at wheels. http://www2.i-bmw.com/pp/showphoto.php?photo=2938&size=big&password=&sort=1&cat=506

Here, Let me help you with your math...151(stock at Rear) + 20(HP gained by your mods) = 171 Even being generous, 171 is not near 200 HP at rear wheel. 171/200= .85 that leaves 15% short. to make it simple you go 85 mph, I go 100mph and I beat you every time no matter how far you want to go. However, I do appreciate the data you supplied...it tells a good story, you should read and study your info closer. My mistake it should be 157 + 20 = 177 therefore 177/200 = .885 making you only 12% off. But even at 88.5 Vs 100...you still lose. In a sport decided by .001 seconds, being 12 % off will still put your bike on the trailer and you in the stands

Here, Let me help you with your math...151(stock at Rear) + 20(HP gained by your mods) = 171 Even being generous, 171 is not near 200 HP at rear wheel. 171/200= .85 that leaves 15% short. to make it simple you go 85 mph, I go 100mph and I beat you every time no matter how far you want to go. However, I do appreciate the data you supplied...it tells a good story, you should read and study your info closer. My mistake it should be 157 + 20 = 177 therefore 177/200 = .885 making you only 12% off. But even at 88.5 Vs 100...you still lose. In a sport decided by .001 seconds, being 12 % off will still put your bike on the trailer and you in the stands :troll: Most people measure MOTOR HP at crank. Most all motorcycle manufactures also rate their motors HP at crank. Sorry you mistaken my NEAR 200HP as meaning at rear wheels.

:troll: Most people measure MOTOR HP at crank. Most all motorcycle manufactures also rate their motors HP at crank. Sorry you mistaken my NEAR 200HP as meaning at rear wheels. Who cares about what you get at the crank. Its what you are getting at the rear wheel that matters. :)

cant have one without the other..crank or rear wheel, they are both just as important as the other.

cant have one without the other..crank or rear wheel, they are both just as important as the other. True. However, its what you are putting down on the pavement that counts the most. :)

True. However, its what you are putting down on the pavement that counts the most. :) yes yes this is true...but if you dont one, you dont have the other... ;) it all comes down too..170hp or 200hp..its all f'n insainly kick a$$ power. :yesnod:

yes yes this is true...but if you dont one, you dont have the other... ;) it all comes down too..170hp or 200hp..its all f'n insainly kick a$$ power. :yesnod: I will agree with the second comment but the first one made no sense at all. I know what your trying to say. You will alway have both. However, the HP at the crank will always drop from there to the wheel. :)

I will agree with the second comment but the first one made no sense at all. I know what your trying to say. You will alway have both. However, the HP at the crank will always drop from there to the wheel. :) True HP on pavement is true HP. When was last time you saw bike or auto manufacture advertise HP at rear wheels??? Since we are talking about stock bike numbers, most of us use manufacture numbers when talking about HP on new bikes ;)

Maybe when you grow up you can afford one :thumbs: Like second rate racers know what they are talking about :smash: It funny because Im 24 and over 40k worth of bikes in my Garage Not including my GF's other race bike. Not including my car. Money is somthing I dont have a problem with. And that bike is ***** IE New copy of Performace bikes says "it sounds like a pig giving birth". And has the power of a snail going uphill. Nice bike old man.

I will agree with the second comment but the first one made no sense at all. I know what your trying to say. You will alway have both. However, the HP at the crank will always drop from there to the wheel. :) if you dont HP at one end, u dont have it at the other, just a typo, ur rubbin off on me Dj..again

if you dont HP at one end, u dont have it at the other, just a typo, ur rubbin off on me Dj..again The kiss smileys are wecked man!!!

It funny because Im 24 and over 40k worth of bikes in my Garage Not including my GF's other race bike. Not including my car. Money is somthing I dont have a problem with. And that bike is ***** IE New copy of Performace bikes says "it sounds like a pig giving birth". And has the power of a snail going uphill. Nice bike old man. :rofl: :lol: These days anybody can get credit :dthumb: Lets hope you are still riding bikes at my age ;)

The kiss smileys are wecked man!!! :yesnod: jetski.. im sure he will be..once a racer always a racer.. :D ..besides, sooner or later u 2 will meet up somewhere, and if there's any pieces left after that we'll declare a winner. :wink:

:rofl: :lol: These days anybody can get credit :dthumb: Lets hope you are still riding bikes at my age ;) Like you said "Paid for my friend".

:rofl: :lol: These days anybody can get credit :dthumb: Lets hope you are still riding bikes at my age ;) Let's hope you are riding motors at MY age...I've had a valid MC license for over 30 years.

Let's hope you are riding motors at MY age...I've had a valid MC license for over 30 years. :cheers: Over 23 years here ;) Wonder how many of these younger guys on this forum will keep themselves in shape for physical activities much less sport bike riding when they hit 30's and 40's ;) Odds are many will not :mad:

:cheers: Over 23 years here ;) Wonder how many of these younger guys on this forum will keep themselves in shape for physical activities much less sport bike riding when they hit 30's and 40's ;) Odds are many will not :mad: Actually, I find that many mc riders do actually keep themselves in shape and continue riding into the golden years if they dont give into girlfriends/wives pleas and demands to give up the bike before then. Motorcycling is who I am, it is a part of me and I will be riding until as long as physically possible, like when I hit 60's or 70's. I am on the verge of 30 and I have been riding the hardest I have in my life this year on the track and street and its been a breeze for this ole lady!

Yeah, right Pippi....you will never get any older than 29!!!! It will just be 29 for 2nd time, 3rd time, 4th time, and so on!!! :lol:

Yeah, right Pippi....you will never get any older than 29!!!! It will just be 29 for 2nd time, 3rd time, 4th time, and so on!!! :lol: Ok, that works for me :)

Ok, that works for me :) Only as old as you feel :cheers:

Only as old as you feel :cheers: Or in your case "look"..... aint that right gramps....... :wink:

Or in your case "look"..... aint that right gramps....... :wink: Twisted 69 and still riding :cheers:

Like I said....gramps. It is cool that your still riding tho. I just hope to still be alive @ 69.

Like I said....gramps. It is cool that your still riding tho. I just hope to still be alive @ 69. :luck:

:luck: I dont know if a 76 Honda 350 counts as riding tho.

I dont know if a 76 Honda 350 counts as riding tho. Just think in 20 years your current bike will be old slow POS ;)

Just think in 20 years your current bike will be old slow POS ;) In 20 years! I dont keep bikes longer than 2... :screwy:

In 20 years! I dont keep bikes longer than 2... :screwy: Me either. Normally not longer then one year. I seem to get yelled at for doing that when I did.

It's all about how fast you go thru them. I want to keep my 9R until it doesn't run anymore...probably after a crash if I had to guess!

I dont know if a 76 Honda 350 counts as riding tho. Hey, Hey, Hey...I still have my 1974 750 Honda I bought new from the dealer...Don't make fun of it...It is a sweet ride! I am going to take it and the '78, 750 A, I've aquired to the Honda Hoot this next year and compete if I can get the A roadworthy.

I dont know if a 76 Honda 350 counts as riding tho. Funny just ran into cherry restored 76 Honda 350 parked on street today :crazy: Will post picture soon ;)

76' :eek: Now that is too old of a bike for me to own. But to it his own. :)

wait a minute..back up..u people dont keep ur bikes longer than a couple years ??? why the hell not??? ur just breakin em in by then...

wait a minute..back up..u people dont keep ur bikes longer than a couple years ??? why the hell not??? ur just breakin em in by then... I don't know. I told you before I have never kept a bike that long. This may be the first one I do but who knows. Well find out. :)

i'd have to be with gas man on this one i think..i cant imagine being without my kat.. she means way to much to me, and I went thru hell and waited too long to get it. i may not keep it forever, bu definately for a long long time..

I'm just saying, I hate selling stuff! I'd rather just ride it till she dies or wrecks!! Yikes, I said wrecks...YIKES!!

unless ur a track beast, as some of our members are.....i just dont see why u'd wanna give up a bike u just got...but eh, to each his own. :)

Who knows!!

I have always just found another bike I liked and rode and wanted to get it and sell my old one. I will try to keep this one and go from there. :)

Honda 350 Four.

Is that the one you just got or a sub pic??? :)

Is that the one you just got or a sub pic??? :) Twisted posted few posts back at 69 years old he may be riding 76 Honda 350 ;) Other day while walking in downtown San Francisco came across this cherry Honda 350 four :thumbs: Snapped picture with my Palm Zire 72, donot own this bike.

Twisted posted few posts back at 69 years old he may be riding 76 Honda 350 ;) Other day while walking in downtown San Francisco came across this cherry Honda 350 four :thumbs: Snapped picture with my Palm Zire 72, donot own this bike. You plan on buying it???

You plan on buying it??? Nope prefer modern bikes :thumbs: As a kid remember my dad had Honda 350 four :crazy:

Nope prefer modern bikes :thumbs: As a kid remember my dad had Honda 350 four :crazy: How old was your dad?? The 350 4cylinder was only built a few years in the 70's starting about '73 or 74...My neighbor had one when I bought my 750

How old was your dad?? The 350 4cylinder was only built a few years in the 70's starting about '73 or 74...My neighbor had one when I bought my 750 Dad is 64 ;)