How do Buell's compare?

Are Buell's as fast as asian bikes? How about handling?For instance is a xb9 like a cbr 929? I know the Buell is a v-twin but how do they compare?

Are Buell's as fast as asian bikes? How about handling?For instance is a xb9 like a cbr 929? I know the Buell is a v-twin but how do they compare? I have zero hands on experience, but I will be more than happy to regurgitate information I have read elsewhere... Buells are torque monsters... Meaning from light to light, they're hard to catch... Top end power though, not so much... So in other words, if you are looking to roll at 150+ go elsewhere. They handle like champs... Good brakes and suspension, low unsprung weight... XB9 would be NOTHING like a 929... V-twin = Torque. Inline 4 = Top end HP. Torque = quick, HP = max speed. Torque, great especially on the street. HP, much more useful on the track. Again, if top speed is your thing, look elsewhere...

and they sound MEAN too!! :dthumb:

and they sound MEAN too!! :dthumb: :withstupi I think it's the Harley in 'em. :dthumb: I have a Blast, the ity bity baby Buell (500cc). I have yet to have a problem with it. Mine is a single cylinder but I do just fine and it pulls plenty for corners. I'm told with a few tweaks I can get it even better, which I am looking into and I will let you guys know. :) OSP's right though, if you're looking for top speed look elsewhere. Other than that, all the owners I know like them.

I have zero hands on experience, but I will be more than happy to regurgitate information I have read elsewhere... Buells are torque monsters... Meaning from light to light, they're hard to catch... Top end power though, not so much... So in other words, if you are looking to roll at 150+ go elsewhere. They handle like champs... Good brakes and suspension, low unsprung weight... XB9 would be NOTHING like a 929... V-twin = Torque. Inline 4 = Top end HP. Torque = quick, HP = max speed. Torque, great especially on the street. HP, much more useful on the track. Again, if top speed is your thing, look elsewhere... you are exaggerating a bit. an inline four DOES NOT lack any low end power what so ever. it is a monster. A vtwin does not lack any top end power what so ever. they are just different engines that have slightly different characteristics. the line between a vtwin and an I4 is much thinner than many of you like to admit. its present, but it will only make a difference if you have ridden both for years and years.

you are exaggerating a bit. an inline four DOES NOT lack any low end power what so ever. it is a monster. A vtwin does not lack any top end power what so ever. they are just different engines that have slightly different characteristics. the line between a vtwin and an I4 is much thinner than many of you like to admit. its present, but it will only make a difference if you have ridden both for years and years. he meant comparatively.... a V-Twin will make a I4 seem lacking in the low end... and the I4 will make the V-Twin seem lacking in top end.... with similar motor sizes of course :2cents:

he meant comparatively.... a V-Twin will make a I4 seem lacking in the low end... and the I4 will make the V-Twin seem lacking in top end.... with similar motor sizes of course :2cents: yeah, my SV650 got SPANKED by a buel today... :cry: Guess that's what a few hundred cc's will do. but it was a pretty buel :twfrox:

yeah, my SV650 got SPANKED by a buel today... :cry: but it was a pretty buel :twfrox: I don't think they make a Buel that's a similar size to yours... (how big is the blast? 500? 600?)

he meant comparatively.... a V-Twin will make a I4 seem lacking in the low end... and the I4 will make the V-Twin seem lacking in top end.... with similar motor sizes of course :2cents: :thx1: And before we start throwing out Ducati and whatnot, I was speaking very generally...

I don't think they make a Buel that's a similar size to yours... (how big is the blast? 500? 600?) Blast is a 500 if I remember what Brie was saying, and that's a single, not a twin. So yeah... I'm outgunned by the buels. Doesn't mean I can't try!! zoooooommm :wink: by next season I should have a 1k, then i'll keep up :dthumb:

Blast is a 500 if I remember what Brie was saying, and that's a single, not a twin. So yeah... I'm outgunned by the buels. Doesn't mean I can't try!! zoooooommm :wink: by next season I should have a 1k, then i'll keep up :dthumb: oh yeah? how much are you gonna want for your sv? :drool:

oh yeah? how much are you gonna want for your sv? :drool: Girlfriend already has dibbs on it... sorry. But since I'm going to be riding it another year... I'm putting some new toys on it... Already got the fender eliminator, frame sliders, carbon look clutch and brake levers, and carbon look bar ends. Some LED's on order. Need to get a pipe yet. I know I'm getting carbon fiber, and i know i'm getting a Yoshi, just not sure if i should go with the RS-3, or the TRS?? About a $30-$40 difference between the two, what's the advantage of the TRS? And best place to buy it? So far 58cycle seems to be the cheapest? :help:

Girlfriend already has dibbs on it... sorry. But since I'm going to be riding it another year... I'm putting some new toys on it... Already got the fender eliminator, frame sliders, carbon look clutch and brake levers, and carbon look bar ends. Some LED's on order. Need to get a pipe yet. I know I'm getting carbon fiber, and i know i'm getting a Yoshi, just not sure if i should go with the RS-3, or the TRS?? About a $30-$40 difference between the two, what's the advantage of the TRS? And best place to buy it? So far 58cycle seems to be the cheapest? :help: damn... I don't know... might talk to Trip... 58cycle is where I got MY exhaust... did good by me:dthumb:

damn... I don't know... might talk to Trip... 58cycle is where I got MY exhaust... did good by me:dthumb: TRIP!!! HELLO TRIP!!!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME???? :idk: Oh well... how long did it take to get your exhaust from them? (I know you are out of the lower 48 too, so extended shipping times)

TRIP!!! HELLO TRIP!!!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME???? :idk: Oh well... how long did it take to get your exhaust from them? (I know you are out of the lower 48 too, so extended shipping times) ordered it on March 16th... got it on then 21st actually it arrived on the 20th but I wasn't home to accept it. and that was ground...

ordered it on March 16th... got it on then 21st actually it arrived on the 20th but I wasn't home to accept it. and that was ground... damn, not bad... Just sent a PM off to smokeuu, see if dakaccessories can get me a deal on something, and see if he knows the diff between the RS3 and TRS (other than the obvious, external shape). So we'll see how that goes, otherwise, 58 cycle here I come!

damn, not bad... Just sent a PM off to smokeuu, see if dakaccessories can get me a deal on something, and see if he knows the diff between the RS3 and TRS (other than the obvious, external shape). So we'll see how that goes, otherwise, 58 cycle here I come! **** I'd ask Yoshi themselves... they'll know better than anyone... though you might get a bit of a sales pitch :2cents:

Buells rule. Not for beginners, however....atleast not the XB's.

It'd be tough to become a serious tracker with a Buell. The top end is just sooo lacking. You'd be getting burned by I4 600's. But not everybody is into track riding. And Marko is horny for the Buells...for some reason. But he has had experiences on 'em.

It'd be tough to become a serious tracker with a Buell. The top end is just sooo lacking. You'd be getting burned by I4 600's. But not everybody is into track riding. And Marko is horny for the Buells...for some reason. But he has had experiences on 'em. Ride one...you'll know why. And they dont look like every other bike on the road.

Ride one...you'll know why. And they dont look like every other bike on the road. I sat on one running and said hell no.

I sat on one running and said hell no. Pfffffffffffffffff.

Are Buell's as fast as asian bikes? How about handling?For instance is a xb9 like a cbr 929? I know the Buell is a v-twin but how do they compare? As quick as? Yes. As fast as in the top end? no. Buells handle superbly, they have a great stock suspension... fully adjustable front and rear. The Buells ability to corner is beyond the abilities of most street riders. I have had my XB9SX for almost 3 years now, and I still get the silly smile on my face every time I go for a ride. It gets an A+ in the fullfillment department. The buell won't do much over 135mph... but when are you really going to be busting 100+ on the street? All the torque/hp is streetable. As has been said, if you are looking for high top end speed, a buell is not going to bring it.

I don't think they make a Buel that's a similar size to yours... (how big is the blast? 500? 600?) The Blast is 500, the next step up from there is all the way to 1k though. :( Ride one...you'll know why. And they dont look like every other bike on the road. Buell's look awesome. :drool:

The Blast is 500, the next step up from there is all the way to 1k though. :( Buell's look awesome. :drool: that's kinda retarded that they don't offer anything between the two... :scratch: they should make something in the 650-750 range! I personaly don't care for buels too much... just don't like their style... but I am however getting more and more taken by the V twins... :drool: damn you marko and your VTwin propaganda! :lol:

"How do Buell's compare?" They don't... :leaving:

"How do Buell's compare?" They don't... :leaving: you are correct in a way......the are not race replica bikes...hell they don't consider themselves sportbikes...they are factory streetfighter bikes....the sound is far and away better then any jap bike though....I will give ya that. I had a xb9sx for a about a year as a second bike...real nice around town and in tight twisties not so good on interstate.

that's kinda retarded that they don't offer anything between the two... :scratch: they should make something in the 650-750 range! I personaly don't care for buels too much... just don't like their style... but I am however getting more and more taken by the V twins... :drool: damn you marko and your VTwin propaganda! :lol: V-TWINS ROCK :hawk:

that's kinda retarded that they don't offer anything between the two... :scratch: they should make something in the 650-750 range! I personaly don't care for buels too much... just don't like their style... but I am however getting more and more taken by the V twins... :drool: damn you marko and your VTwin propaganda! :lol: Yeah, now I have to move up to a Japanese bike :cursin:

Yeah, now I have to move up to a Japanese bike :cursin: :lol:

Yeah, now I have to move up to a Japanese bike :cursin: Just go to the Fischer or the Roehr, if they ever build it The Fischer is a 650 twin. http://www.fischer1.com/images/fischermrx01.jpg http://www.fischer1.com/index.htm And the Roehr http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com/images/buildup6_022a.jpg http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com/wst_page4.html Kinda looks like a ducati... :tt: don't hurt me....:leaving:

Just go to the Fischer or the Roehr, if they ever build it The Fischer is a 650 twin. http://www.fischer1.com/images/fischermrx01.jpg http://www.fischer1.com/index.htm these looked good when they first came out... but I think their styling is outdated... and looks HEAVY! if they ever DO make them they need a re-styling first :2cents:

these looked good when they first came out... but I think their styling is outdated... and looks HEAVY! if they ever DO make them they need a re-styling first :2cents: Interesting..I think I'll just go with japanese but I dunno. We'll see if I get money.

The Fischer is a 650 twin. http://www.fischer1.com/images/fischermrx01.jpg http://www.fischer1.com/index.htm :nonod: Whats with the raked forks...

that's kinda retarded that they don't offer anything between the two... :scratch: they should make something in the 650-750 range! I personaly don't care for buels too much... just don't like their style... but I am however getting more and more taken by the V twins... :drool: damn you marko and your VTwin propaganda! :lol: A 650 or 750 Buell wouldn't make any power. They need the huge displacement. Hell...the XB9's gotta HUSTLE to keep up with I4 600's. It's that 45* twin.

:nonod: Whats with the raked forks... I think that's an odd pic- like the aspect ratio is F'ed up http://eworldwire.com/mediauploads/309885_415231_1156360347.jpg http://www.sbk.co.il/ups/fischer_mrx6503.jpeg http://www.sbk.co.il/ups/fischer_mrx65011.jpeg That last (black) one is probably a prototype. Some of the pics look like the forks are pulled up through the triples too far. But I like the overall style, as long as they get the fairing away from the side-stand.

My last bike was a 2003 R1, great track bike, so-so street bike. Sold it to buy a 2007 lightning 1200. So much fun it's ridiculous. Only gripe is the shifter. You really have to CLICK the gears. Otherwise I love it. :dthumb: You have to be realistic about it. It's designed for the twisties, accelerating and braking. it excells on all three plus it's UNIQUE, no copycat repli racer... so many so alike...

My last bike was a 2003 R1, great track bike, so-so street bike. Sold it to buy a 2007 lightning 1200. So much fun it's ridiculous. Only gripe is the shifter. You really have to CLICK the gears. Otherwise I love it. :dthumb: You have to be realistic about it. It's designed for the twisties, accelerating and braking. it excells on all three plus it's UNIQUE, no copycat repli racer... so many so alike... Exactly the points I try to make. :cheers:

I think that's an odd pic- like the aspect ratio is F'ed up http://eworldwire.com/mediauploads/309885_415231_1156360347.jpg http://www.sbk.co.il/ups/fischer_mrx6503.jpeg http://www.sbk.co.il/ups/fischer_mrx65011.jpeg That last (black) one is probably a prototype. Some of the pics look like the forks are pulled up through the triples too far. But I like the overall style, as long as they get the fairing away from the side-stand. the black doesn't look bad... but the yellow looks like ****... IMO all the edges look weird

Ride one...you'll know why. And they dont look like every other bike on the road. I like the looks of everything but the big ol' can on the bottom. Looks like the muffler off my old '80 Z28. If I'm going air cooled twin, give me the Monster 800 or 1000 any day.

I actually like the concept and looks of the underslung exhaust. It's different and logical. Would an xb9 be a decent second bike? Something that a somewhat experienced rider could handle well?

I actually like the concept and looks of the underslung exhaust. It's different and logical. Would an xb9 be a decent second bike? Something that a somewhat experienced rider could handle well? Short wheelbase, low cg... It should fall into the turns...

I actually like the concept and looks of the underslung exhaust. It's different and logical. Would an xb9 be a decent second bike? Something that a somewhat experienced rider could handle well? Absolutely.

you are exaggerating a bit. an inline four DOES NOT lack any low end power what so ever. it is a monster. A vtwin does not lack any top end power what so ever. they are just different engines that have slightly different characteristics. the line between a vtwin and an I4 is much thinner than many of you like to admit. its present, but it will only make a difference if you have ridden both for years and years. OK so what your saying is that a v-twin is like a big block 69 camaro and a 1k is like a small block 07 zo6 vette:here:

more like a V-twin is like a Nascar engine and an I-4 is like a F-1 engine. Many engine builders like BMW, Hart, and ZakSpeed raced 1.5L turbo I-4 engines in the 80's.

I think it comes down to how you ride and what you want out of a bike. I traded my GSXR 600 race bike in for my superhawk in 98 because I was done racing and wanted a bike made for the streets and now I would never own another inline. After 20+ years of riding inline 4's I have a lot more fun riding the twins, I just love the TQ curve on these bikes. If I was still racing and spent my weekends at the track and my $$$ for tires, I would still have a 600for my track bike. My only complaint about the Buell (XB12) is I wish it had the topend of the Hawk but the pro's are a lot more then the Cons, better braking, handiling, lighter and it sounds mean as hell. :cheers:

I think it comes down to how you ride and what you want out of a bike. I traded my GSXR 600 race bike in for my superhawk in 98 because I was done racing and wanted a bike made for the streets and now I would never own another inline. After 20+ years of riding inline 4's I have a lot more fun riding the twins, I just love the TQ curve on these bikes. If I was still racing and spent my weekends at the track and my $$$ for tires, I would still have a 600for my track bike. My only complaint about the Buell (XB12) is I wish it had the topend of the Hawk but the pro's are a lot more then the Cons, better braking, handiling, lighter and it sounds mean as hell. :cheers: I also hear they are a bit twitchy at high speeds...

I just purchased a 03 XB9 and i have to admit i was a little sceptical at first coming off of a Inline. It is a totally different expeirence it kills the twisties sounds awesome and is a blast to ride around town on. Maintance is a breeze no real need to warm the bike up just jump on and ride i would definately like to have a Inline to keep it company though.

I just purchased a 03 XB9 and i have to admit i was a little sceptical at first coming off of a Inline. It is a totally different expeirence it kills the twisties sounds awesome and is a blast to ride around town on. Maintance is a breeze no real need to warm the bike up just jump on and ride i would definately like to have a Inline to keep it company though. You like the 03 huh? How does the tranny feel? And the clutch?

The hardest thing to get use to. I guess i was pretty sloppy with my shifting cause you really have to be smooth going from first to second. About 5-10 miles of seat time and its like butter though. Miss just slamming the 600 in gear and running it ragged though.

The hardest thing to get use to. I guess i was pretty sloppy with my shifting cause you really have to be smooth going from first to second. About 5-10 miles of seat time and its like butter though. Miss just slamming the 600 in gear and running it ragged though. The tranny's on the new ones have gotten better. I've only rode the 07's.

yea they updated the trans in 06 but you still have to really 'put' it into the next gear. i hear people say the jap bikes practically slide into gear but ive never ridden one to know the difference. The clutchless upshifts are nice and smooth though :idk:

yea they updated the trans in 06 but you still have to really 'put' it into the next gear. i hear people say the jap bikes practically slide into gear but ive never ridden one to know the difference. The clutchless upshifts are nice and smooth though :idk: Hmmm....so you pull clutchless with the Buell, eh? Interesting. :cheers:

'coughs' AMA Superbike!! 'nods' the ducati's kick a$$ and thats amoungs the biggest I4's out.

Hmmm....so you pull clutchless with the Buell, eh? Interesting. :cheers: Wow.

i do clutchless shifts. plus, i've converted to GP shift (1up, 4down). i love both!! just gotta really mean to put it in second gear... to address this discussion, i have an '06 xb9sx. my little brother has an '05 636. in the corners, i walk away from him. if we swap bikes, i still outrun him on the same set of curves, but he's a little closer to me. so even with two riders swapping bikes, the buell speaks for itself in that area. straightaways? fuggetaboutit. all he has to do is twist the squid-lever (read "throttle") and he's history (and probably riding over his head). but i always wind up passing him in the next set of turns. partially due to the bike.... and partially due to testicular fortitude. :whistle:

i do clutchless shifts. plus, i've converted to GP shift (1up, 4down). i love both!! just gotta really mean to put it in second gear... to address this discussion, i have an '06 xb9sx. my little brother has an '05 636. in the corners, i walk away from him. if we swap bikes, i still outrun him on the same set of curves, but he's a little closer to me. so even with two riders swapping bikes, the buell speaks for itself in that area. straightaways? fuggetaboutit. all he has to do is twist the squid-lever (read "throttle") and he's history (and probably riding over his head). but i always wind up passing him in the next set of turns. partially due to the bike.... and partially due to testicular fortitude. :whistle: Which is why I want one so bad. I dont give a F$&K about straight away speed. I like to corner. What better bike to do it with?

Short wheelbase, low cg... It should fall into the turns... And after 300 miles... I know now... they do.:dthumb: I also hear they are a bit twitchy at high speeds... Into triple digits and still felt rock steady... Didn't max her out though... The tranny's on the new ones have gotten better. I've only rode the 07's. Honestly, I don't think my 500 shifted much better... and I am still breaking it in... Which is why I want one so bad. I dont give a F$&K about straight away speed. I like to corner. What better bike to do it with? I don't care about top speed either... Buell, Own the Corners No chit.

Honestly, I don't think my 500 shifted much better... and I am still breaking it in... I don't care about top speed either... Buell, Own the Corners No chit. On my test ride I had trouble finding N...but I'm told (by the dealer and owners) that that problem goes away as you break the tranny in. Yeah...Own the F%$King corners. G0dd@mn right. Sucker goes RIGHT where you point it and it holds the damn line.

On my test ride I had trouble finding N...but I'm told (by the dealer and owners) that that problem goes away as you break the tranny in. Yeah...Own the F%$King corners. G0dd@mn right. Sucker goes RIGHT where you point it and it holds the damn line. That's good news... I have had all sorts of trouble finding neutral... :lol: I was totally spoiled by Kawi's positive neutral finder thingy... I really took that chit for granted... One thing I can say about it is that third gear seems to be bothersome... I missed a couple shifts in my first 200 miles... I hate that chit... Nothing says, "I don't know what the fluck I am doing" like a missed shift... even though we've all done it... It does hold a line like a champ... It also just DIVES into a turn... If you don't know what you are doing and/or don't fully commit, I could see you getting flucked up...

That's good news... I have had all sorts of trouble finding neutral... :lol: I was totally spoiled by Kawi's positive neutral finder thingy... I really took that chit for granted... One thing I can say about it is that third gear seems to be bothersome... I missed a couple shifts in my first 200 miles... I hate that chit... Nothing says, "I don't know what the fluck I am doing" like a missed shift... even though we've all done it... It does hold a line like a champ... It also just DIVES into a turn... If you don't know what you are doing and/or don't fully commit, I could see you getting flucked up... Yeah missing shift's totally sucks. I didn't get the feeling of it 'diving' into corners...it sorta just went right over where I wanted it to go. Ever so smooth.

Yeah missing shift's totally sucks. I didn't get the feeling of it 'diving' into corners...it sorta just went right over where I wanted it to go. Ever so smooth. The diving action is mostly at lower speeds... and perhaps I should have described it as a falling, rather than a dive... Either way if you are set up right, it's on rails...

The diving action is mostly at lower speeds... and perhaps I should have described it as a falling, rather than a dive... Either way if you are set up right, it's on rails... Truth. She held up tough with the factory settings on the test ride. I can only imagine when it's dialed in.