Hypothetical 3 (the secret of the ooze)

okay the last one kind of bored me. apparently most people have hangups about killing a horse, simply because its killing a horse. I agree with what somebody said, had it been a different animal (IE one not domesticated or adored) the question may have been answered differently, but then the question would have been redundant. The simple truth is that by killing a horse you would be setting free thousands of good people, held by their governments for things like practicing Christianity, protesting womens rights, not paying taxes, protesting the government, and other things that you and I take for granted. Certainly there would be a few people imprisoned that deserve to be there, but how is it justifiable to keep thousands of innocents in detention to keep a few guilty parties off the streets. Guilty people get away scott free in our legal system every day, whether it be for simple speeding tickets or multiple murder counts. But you may say "well NTS you chose you wouldn't kill the horse either" but i am not killing it because i dont care about these imprisoned people. they have never made an impression on my life and never will. I opted not to do it simply for selfish reasons, not because i could care a rats ass about a Clydesdale. heres number three. Let us assume there are two boxes on a table. In one box, there is a relatively normal turtle; in the other, Adolf Hitler's skull. You have to select one of these items for your home. If you select the turtle, you can't give it away and you have to keep it alive for two years; if either of these parameters are not met you will be fined $999 by the state. If you select Hitler's skull, you are required to display it in a semi prominent location in your living room for the same amount of time, although you will be paid a stipend of $120/month for doing so. Display the skull must be apolitical. Which option do you select? For those that dont know, to be apolitical is to be without any political agenda. Hitler has widely been characterized as one of the worst characters in history, the most evil person... out of trillions of persons that have lived, he is definatly in the top ten, if not five. You cannot think Nazism on this one, you cannot think axis of evil. you simply must understand that it is your objective to have the skull of one of the most evil persons ever to walk the earth displayed for all of your friends, families, acquaintances, whatever, to see. oh and you can name the turtle whatever you want. i'd say it costs no less than 20 dollars a month to feed and house a turtle. and they certainly dont require much of your time. maximum lifespan of a painted turtle in captivation? 20 years. Mean lifespan of a turtle in captivation, 3 years. Now go.

I choose hitlers skull. It requires no maintenace like an animal would.

Thats an easy one. Hitler's skull, that way I could spit on the SOB every time I walked past it. That would be priceless. Who cares what people think. Those who know me know me, and those who don't.....well lets just say they think I am tad bit off anyway.

Dude if you had hitler's skull, you could sell that puppy for tons and tons and tons of money after your little stint with it. Not to mention the historical value it represents. I take the skull and I wouldn't do a thing to it like spit or piss on it, it's worth too much money. F*** the turtle, they suck unless they are the teenage mutant ninja variety.

I choose hitlers skull. It requires no maintenace like an animal would. yes, but your not thinking entirely too much on how displaying the skull of a madman would impact your social life. Thats an easy one. Hitler's skull, that way I could spit on the SOB every time I walked past it. That would be priceless. Who cares what people think. Those who know me know me, and those who don't.....well lets just say they think I am tad bit off anyway. So you are going to display something in your house that you hate, and other people are going to know this, and you are not thinking this may make you seem a little off? my point is you are making a mockery out of Hitler, and yourself. Plus by spitting on the skull i think that inherently you'd be showing political distaste and be breaking the rules. Personally i believe the 1440 dollars a year has a LOT to do with peoples decisions on this one. Think people, think. its not a race to the "post reply" button its an examination of your intellectual capability.

I'd take the skull, you get paid to keep it, and then you can sell that chit afterwards for millions of dollars. Not to mention: Man, what a conversation piece! Just because you're displaying it doesn't mean you agree with his actions. Otherwise, museums wouldn't show all sorts of terrible things that they have. It's an artifact that has huge historical signifigance. A turtle is just a boring turtle, and it would cost you money. F that.

Dude if you had hitler's skull, you could sell that puppy for tons and tons and tons of money after your little stint with it. Not to mention the historical value it represents. I take the skull and I wouldn't do a thing to it like spit or piss on it, it's worth too much money. F*** the turtle, they suck unless they are the teenage mutant ninja variety. again, money comes into play. You guys do know who hitler was, right? youre willing to sacrifice your moral integrity for money is all i have heard from the last two posts.

I choose the skull also but. Im not getting payed monthly to raise the turtle and I get fined if it dies early. on the other hand, its a pet not much a month to feed or water, dont have to deal with the political B.S. that might come with displaying the skull. Some might view it in a bad way for displaying the skull. Wrong impressions could lead to worse things and even harm. so It might be easier, to just raise the turtle for 2 yrs.

and by the way, the idea of profiting off Hitlers skull will surely send you to hell.

This one is easy - the turtle. $120/month isn't worth what having that skull in my home would make me feel inside. I'd sooner wh0re myself out on a street corner than take financial gain for displaying that item. Besides, I like turtles, so keeping one as a pet for a couple years isn't a problem for me at all. :idk:

I choose the skull also but. Im not getting payed monthly to raise the turtle and I get fined if it dies early. on the other hand, its a pet not much a month to feed or water, dont have to deal with the political B.S. that might come with displaying the skull. Some might view it in a bad way for displaying the skull. Wrong impressions could lead to worse things and even harm. so It might be easier, to just raise the turtle for 2 yrs. first good post. think people, think. dont let the monetary options distract what your true opnions are, thats shallow. i'd like to see some ladies take on this.

Do I get to keep it when I am done? Sweet, then it would go to the Holocaust museum with a suggestion to put it on display in a dunking booth. Two benefits to the idea #1. It would make money. #2. Think about how bad it would piss off the white power idiots. Their idol being dunked over and over mainly by a bunch of Jews. I would snicker about that for the rest of my life, and if I bought karma it should be good for a bunch of points!

it doesnt say anywhere that you cant keep the skull after you are done, but it also only states that the skull is meant to be viewed in your home. not to be in your possession at any time.

I took a trip one time when i was stationed in Germany, and it really opened my eyes on how innocent people suffered. To judge a person the way hitler did, by the way people look or there religious background. It represents everything that is wrong in this world. One thing i learned and i appresiate about being in the Army we did care what, one's religion was, color are race. Hey we was all army and we where all green through and through. Thats one of the things people dont realize what the Military in general represents. yeah back in the early days might been lil F'd up bot now days We are all brother in arms. We look to that person to or left or right when we are stuck in the foxhole in 130 degree weather to have somethin like hitler's skull in my house would go against every moral fiber in my body. So there is my extended true answer.

yes, but your not thinking entirely too much on how displaying the skull of a madman would impact your social life. I dont care about what people think when they come to my house. If you come to my house then you are a friend of mine and you probably have the same mind set I do. I dont invite peole to my house theat would get freaked out by some guys skull in my house. If that is you, then you are not invited to my house! :lol:

This is not a monetary thing, this is a once in a life time chance. I have a special hatred for Hitler (and a small amount of respect but won't go into that). You weigh the cost, but the opportunity is just to good to pass up. And I am deathly serious about the dunking booth, it may have come off as flippant but the humiliation would be ideal.

again, money comes into play. You guys do know who hitler was, right? youre willing to sacrifice your moral integrity for money is all i have heard from the last two posts. I choose the skull and they can keep the money. I'm too busy and out way too much to worry about keeping a turtle alive. Besides it's a skull nothing more. It doesn't have a big swastica on the forhead it's a simple skull no sign or anything you could say it was Einsteins or something

first good post. think people, think. Wait... what happened to "there's no right or wrong answers...." :scratch:

okay, so you'd pick hitlers skull bue lie about it? thats creative, but kind of tells me you are the type of person to avoid conflict.

Wait... what happened to "there's no right or wrong answers...." :scratch: there are no right or wrong answers. but there are good and bad answers. well thought answers and superficial answers. that is the point of the whole series, is to get you Neanderthals to start thinking :wink:

okay, so you'd pick hitlers skull bue lie about it? thats creative, but kind of tells me you are the type of person to avoid conflict. Why tell people what it is if you don't have to? Although I did write a paper on him while I was in HS and found him rather interesting granted he is evil for what he did but was still interesting. ie. When he was younger he had no thoughts of racism or hatred whatsoever. He wanted to play music. His father turned him into what he became. And yes I do avoid conflict I learned long ago nothing is worth fighting over and when I got married I learned nothing is worth arguing over because she's gonna win anyways.

there are no right or wrong answers. but there are good and bad answers. well thought answers and superficial answers. that is the point of the whole series, is to get you Neanderthals to start thinking :wink: We have JOBS for that... :lol: Besides, I DID answer, you cro-magnon! :nee

again, money comes into play. You guys do know who hitler was, right? youre willing to sacrifice your moral integrity for money is all i have heard from the last two posts. I'm a greedy evil f*** what can I say. If I wasn't so lazy, I would probably try to conquer the world and enslave it's people as well. :lol:

Why tell people what it is if you don't have to? Although I did write a paper on him while I was in HS and found him rather interesting granted he is evil for what he did but was still interesting. ie. When he was younger he had no thoughts of racism or hatred whatsoever. He wanted to play music. His father turned him into what he became. And yes I do avoid conflict I learned long ago nothing is worth fighting over and when I got married I learned nothing is worth arguing over because she's gonna win anyways. I admire your honesty. Mein Kampf is a good read. as are a couple biographies i've read about the man. If nothing else it is good to read (almost inspirational) about how a man in the gutter can rise up and almost conquer the world. back to the topic at hand. I would choose the turtle. While i have no personal qualms about housing the skull of a madman in my house i cannot say the same about other people. Word would get out. everybody would know, and eventually it would become an INTERNATIONAL fiasco. Personally i do NOT want to be famous for being the guy that had hitlers skull in my house for twenty four months. Even more so than the social injustices i am sure to face I am worried about the pysical ramifications. Death threats, violence, etc are all things i can see stemming from this. After all, people, it will not matter what you're reasons for having the skull is, people (more importantly the media) will make those choices for you.

and by the way, the idea of profiting off Hitlers skull will surely send you to hell. What if we don't believe in hell? Ironically just as a I typed that, a bolt of lightning came down and the thunder was pretty loud. :lol:

We have JOBS for that... :lol: Besides, I DID answer, you cro-magnon! :nee honestly, i typically think LESS when i am working... and i'd be willing to bet that goes true for most people.:jacked: my own thread.

What if we don't believe in hell? Ironically just as a I typed that, a bolt of lightning came down and the thunder was pretty loud. :lol: i was being Facetious

What if we don't believe in hell? Oh, good point (seeing as I... well... don't believe in that concept... :idk: )

forget i ever mentioned hell people, it has nothign to do with the scenario :wink:

forget i ever mentioned hell people, it has nothign to do with the scenario :wink: Except for hoping Hitler is rotting in it. Sorry, back to the thread.

there are no right or wrong answers. but there are good and bad answers. well thought answers and superficial answers. that is the point of the whole series, is to get you Neanderthals to start thinking :wink: I am thinking, the money I could obtain would let me live a better life along with my family and if you really want to go on a religious kick you could give some of the profit from the skull to organizations that help holocaust victim families. Instead of a freakin turtle that could potentially take money away from my family if it got sick and died...

What if we don't believe in hell? Ironically just as a I typed that, a bolt of lightning came down and the thunder was pretty loud. :lol: I believe in hell people tell me all the time I'm going there in a hand basket. :idk:

keeping hitler's skull is bad karma... the jews will go postal on your family. -a|ex

I am thinking, the money I could obtain would let me live a better life along with my family and if you really want to go on a religious kick you could give some of the profit from the skull to organizations that help holocaust victim families. and what if a group of radical white supremacists breaks into your home and steals the skull. or what if your house if firebombed by radical extremists. or what if the media covers the story and pesters your family in public. Is the monetary value worth that?

and what if a group of radical white supremacists breaks into your home and steals the skull. or what if your house if firebombed by radical extremists. or what if the media covers the story and pesters your family in public. Is the monetary value worth that? I have insurance and an incredibly high tolerance for character assault. I would definitely have fun with the media. Hell the media coverage alone would be a blast for me. Where do I sign up for that? It's all nonsense anyway, the Russians would kill me as soon as they found out I stole the skull from them.

keeping hitler's skull is bad karma... the jews will go postal on your family. -a|ex Karma is a fantasy. If the Jews really had a problem, tell them to pay your fine for removing it from your household and then get the skull appraised and give it to them for that price and there you go.

Now I stand by my answer of the turtle over the skull... but this is an interesting angle: Instead of a freakin turtle that could potentially take money away from my family if it got sick and died... ...a friend was just telling us last night about the cute little turtles they sell at the mall, and how they carry salmonella, and children handle them, then touch their faces/mouths, get sick and die. So you could face some equally harsh Karmic retribution by bringing the turtle into your home and potentially endangering your family, your children, your friend's children, and so on... Just a thought. :dthumb:

Karma is a fantasy. If the Jews really had a problem, tell them to pay your fine for removing it from your household and then get the skull appraised and give it to them for that price and there you go. karma is communism. if karma existed, please explain how bad people are in power and good people are in the streets.

karma is communism. if karma existed, please explain how bad people are in power and good people are in the streets. :scratch: W T F?

Now I stand by my answer of the turtle over the skull... but this is an interesting angle: ...a friend was just telling us last night about the cute little turtles they sell at the mall, and how they carry salmonella, and children handle them, then touch their faces/mouths, get sick and die. So you could face some equally harsh Karmic retribution by bringing the turtle into your home and potentially endangering your family, your children, your friend's children, and so on... Just a thought. :dthumb: well the skull could have been treated with curing agents like anthrax or cyanide (i have no idea if anthrax or cyanide is a curing agent)

:scratch: W T F? it keeps everybody equal. if you do something bad to somebody you'll have something equally bad done back to yourself. like communism, it creates a false sense of equality.

Now I stand by my answer of the turtle over the skull... but this is an interesting angle: ...a friend was just telling us last night about the cute little turtles they sell at the mall, and how they carry salmonella, and children handle them, then touch their faces/mouths, get sick and die. So you could face some equally harsh Karmic retribution by bringing the turtle into your home and potentially endangering your family, your children, your friend's children, and so on... Just a thought. :dthumb: :jacked: All reptiles carry salmonella I believe. I had an iguana it did as well.

well the skull could have been treated with curing agents like anthrax or cyanide (i have no idea if anthrax or cyanide is a curing agent) Well there is the whole problem that all that is left of Hitler's skull is a small bone fragment and it's sitting in some Russian lockbox in a heavily guarded area. So that has limited the whole it's got something all over it theory.

I got the psychological weight of the first two questions, but I can't for the life of me understand this one. Therefore, I'll abstain.

well the skull could have been treated with curing agents like anthrax or cyanide (i have no idea if anthrax or cyanide is a curing agent) :lol: See, but you keep adding to the original question, trying to railroad people into the answer that you feel is right! :lol:

it keeps everybody equal. if you do something bad to somebody you'll have something equally bad done back to yourself. like communism, it creates a false sense of equality. Hmmmm..... Interesting analogy..... but I'll take Karma over communism any day. :lol:

:lol: See, but you keep adding to the original question, trying to railroad people into the answer that you feel is right! :lol: no no no, people keep assuming i have an answer in my head that i think is right and i am trying to project it on you. That is only half right. I have made up my mind about certain things, but the beauty of it is i have come to my conclusions after careful consideration and examination of different scenarios that could arise. I would like nothing more than for somebody to think of something legitimate that would cause me to rethink my answer, and that HAS happened numerous times now. My answers are no more concrete than yours people. and i've only added for comical value at some points, not to be taken literally. I've stated a was being facetious a couple times. The orriginal question is the only guidlines for answering the questions. you DO get points for creativity and you DO have to think outside the box in this thread.

I would like nothing more than for somebody to think of something legitimate that would cause me to rethink my answer, and that HAS happened numerous times now. My answers are no more concrete than yours people. Soooo.... lemme get this straight. If someone's answer differs from yours, it's somehow less than "legitimate" :scratch: And you're forgetting, you've read the book you're quoting these hypotheticals, so your answers ARE already shaped, and you're taking issue with those that don't match up. ;)

Soooo.... lemme get this straight. If someone's answer differs from yours, it's somehow less than "legitimate" :scratch: in a debate, if i were not to assume that the oppositions point of view was less valid than mine, i cant imagine i would fair well. And you're forgetting, you've read the book you're quoting these hypotheticals, so your answers ARE already shaped, and you're taking issue with those that don't match up. ;) actually i never read these until the other night. There are little snippets that have nothing to do with the subject matter of the book before every chapter. I had never read them until i finished the book (the night i started the series) so in all honesty i have had no more time to think about these scenarios as you, as i have never actually considered them until now. I have only actually answered these questions in this thread. And like i said these little snippets have nothing to do with the book, so having finished the literature gives me no unfair advantage over anybody else.

in a debate, if i were not to assume that the oppositions point of view was less valid than mine, i cant imagine i would fair well. Ahhhhhh... see but you never framed these "hypotheticals" within the framework of a debate. :lol: You posed them innocently, never with the declaration that they were intended to start debate. ;)

im sorry, your sixthousand post count must have confused me. i thought you may have been more savvy with how things work on TWF. mah bad :wink:

im sorry, your sixthousand post count must have confused me. i thought you may have been more savvy with how things work on TWF. mah bad :wink: :lol: Only meaning that if you're WANTING to spark a debate, it's a good thing to let the opposition know, lest they take you at your word that "there's no right or wrong answers." ;)

im sorry, your sixthousand post count must have confused me. i thought you may have been more savvy with how things work on TWF. mah bad :wink: That is true, everything is a debate on this board. I think that is why I like this place. :lol:

That is true, everything is a debate on this board. I think that is why I like this place. :lol: Admittedly, it does stave off the afternoon sleepies... :lol:

Soooo.... lemme get this straight. If someone's answer differs from yours, it's somehow less than "legitimate" :scratch: And you're forgetting, you've read the book you're quoting these hypotheticals, so your answers ARE already shaped, and you're taking issue with those that don't match up. ;) This whole "debate" reminds me of a chick that asks "which shoe do you like better with this outfit?". When you tell her, she proceeds to tell you why that shoe does NOT go with that outfit. Why ask if you already know? :scratch:

These threads are :spam: :idk:

This whole "debate" reminds me of a chick that asks "which shoe do you like better with this outfit?". When you tell her, she proceeds to tell you why that shoe does NOT go with that outfit. Why ask if you already know? :scratch: :clap: Excellent analogy!! :lol: NtS, I'm just givin' ya shiat anyway... these questions have been really entertaining actually...

Ooops, thought this was the girls in leather thread. Sorry.

These threads are :spam: :idk: i was under the impression that people were enjoying them.

I enjoy them, previous critiques still withstanding. Nothing wrong with exercising the other side of the brain occasionally.

I enjoy them, previous critiques still withstanding. Nothing wrong with exercising the other side of the brain occasionally. I exercise mine all day long. I come here for a break!

I'd take the turtle. I use to have a turtle when I was a kid and it lived more than two years. I wouldn't mind having another one.

karma is communism. if karma existed, please explain how bad people are in power and good people are in the streets. those that don't understand karma can compare it to luck... was it luck or was it karma? i've been lucky thus far... -a|ex

Yeah, I am not going to read through pages of posts talking about me not thinking or whatever because of the answer I am about to provide... This is not a real thought provoking situation... 1) The only reason my cat is still alive is because he whines and cries and reminds me to feed him every day... from about 7am till whenever I get up every day. The turtle would die within a week. 2) I could give two chits and a fluck about Hitler... Genious, madman, emo... yes yes yes... Would having his skull make me a genious, madman, or emo... no no no. It's a flucking skull... It's not like I am using the DNA to clone him so he can take over the world... I have it there because someone is going to pay me $120/mo to keep it on display. Hell, I'd put an ad in the paper and charge people $5 to come in and look at it. More money. Then when the time is up, I'd skull fluck it, and sell it on eBay. If nobody has figured it out yet, I could care less what people think... Lotsa people think I am a moron... Lotsa people think I am an azzhole... I am sure there are even lotsa people who think I am a racist... Probably even more people who just think I am a douche... Guess what, to a certain degree they are a little right on all counts... And I don't care. I hope the 4th one is better...

Yeah, Yadda yadda yadda If nobody has figured it out yet, I could care less what people think... Lotsa people think I am a moron... Lotsa people think I am an azzhole... I am sure there are even lotsa people who think I am a racist... Probably even more people who just think I am a douche... Guess what, to a certain degree they are a little right on all counts... And I don't care. I hope the 4th one is better... You mean your not?:lol:

I'd go with the turtle... I had one when I was a kid... and I could care less about the skull of Hitler... he was a douche bag and I'd rather not have his influence anywhere arround me... :2cents:

OK, I didn't read all the posts, just gonna put my answer up. I'd take the skull. Not so much for the money (tho it would be nice), I'd do it more like a trophy. Like a deer mount in your living room, true, I did not kill him, but he is dead, one way or another!!

the skull. turtles are boring, fluck hitler hitlers dead, and i HAVE to keep the turtle alive easy choice for me, hell, the turtle could just up and die for no reason, fudge that. "yes, sir, we heard your $10 turtle died. u now owe us $999. credit or check?"

I would take the skull without hesitation. I actually wrote a term paper on Hitler because I believe he is one of the greatest leaders of all time. Now I am not saying he was good or that I condone any of his actions, but he had great leadership skills.

karma is communism. if karma existed, please explain how bad people are in power and good people are in the streets. Uh no karma and communism are unrelated. Karma was the ruling class of ancient indias method for subjegating the lower classes while reminding them "just eat your chit in this life and you will be reicarnated in a better position.

I would choose hitler's skull. The value of something like that would be immense, would make a great addition to my home decor and it doesn't require any upkeep. I would probably put it in a glass case with a plaque telling people what it was. The look on people's faces when they read the plaque would be priceless. All in all taking the skull would be the path of least resistance.

I'd take Hitlers skull. I'd post an ad in the paper and charge admission. Extra if you want to skull F it. Hell, with novelty photos and T shirt sales (My Dad Skull F'ed Hitler and all I got was this stupid shirt). I'd be ballin'.:woo: BTW-The Japanese were as bad if not worse than the Nazis. Read up on the Bataan death march and when they invaded China. No I'm not prejudice-I own a Yamaha and wife has a Nissan. Just talking about history.