Bluebolt 07-08-2007, 09:28 AM For those who havent yet seen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzkRAbfHI6M
Specs: (from the video)
Liquid Cooled 1125cc 72º V-Twin
146 HP, 84 lb-ft torque, 10,500 RPM redline
6 Speed Transmission
Hydraulic Vacuum-Assist Slipper Clutch
ZTL2 Brake System
54.5″ Wheel Base
5.6 Gallons Fuel-in-Frame
http://sporttwin.com/uploads/forums/buell1125r.jpg
http://sporttwin.com/uploads/forums/buell1125r2.jpg
and there should be more pics and info later tonight because buell is officially unvieling it today @ 2pm for its dealer show.
:hawk:
ELTGuy 07-08-2007, 11:49 PM Looks hawt...
<--- is currently rethinking plans to get an Interceptor by 2008.
It's got a slipper clutch too. Still a Buell though.
EzkRAbfHI6M
Hum interesting:scratch:
Rider 07-09-2007, 07:20 AM Looks like a nice bike. :dthumb:
papapoi 07-09-2007, 08:10 AM Its on the buell site also. looked at it lastnight
JSTUDWHEELIE716 07-09-2007, 08:18 AM hey guys, little off topic, but had a question. If i was looking to get a 600cc bike. which do you guys think is the smalles 600 bike. by smallest i mean size height, lenght, width. I wanted to upgrade from a 250 but kinda nervous to get on a 600. i want something thats manageable????
RATyson 07-09-2007, 11:15 AM It's got a slipper clutch too. Still a Buell though.
A 72 degree, Liquid cooled 1125cc V-Twin with 146hp and 82ftLbs of torque.. and a 10,500 rpm redline. Still a Buell, but unlike any Buell before it!
I so wish I could get one of these... but it probably is not in my future.
It will be interesting to see how this bike is accepted by the masses... Will everyone clammer for them?? Will everyone still say "It's a buell, so it must suck"... only time will tell.
I, for one and super stoked for the future of this bike. And I really hope they prove to be a great machine.
This also looks like a great bike to compete in the AMA Formula Extreme series.
FD2BLK 07-09-2007, 11:23 AM Probably in the minority but the bike looks butt ugly to me. I love the fact they finaly got a nice power plant and a 6 speed gear box but whats up with the intake scoops, they look huge.
Rider 07-09-2007, 11:30 AM After going on the Buell websight and seeing pics of the bike, Im not sure I like it that much. Maybe if those bifg ugly scoops were gone, I'd like it a lot more. The black colo does a good job of hiding the scoops at forst glance.
tallywacker 07-09-2007, 12:21 PM This is the first buell i do like. Cant wait to see one in person
fnfalman 07-09-2007, 12:44 PM Finally a true American sport bike that can "theoretically" compete with the rest of the world, especially against the Italian V-twins. Repeat after me: Rotax is da shizznit!!!
Still don't understand why the bike still retains the belt drive though.:idk:
So what if the Buell's quality isn't top notch? They can work on that issue. All they needed was a good engine and finally they got it.
saverok 07-09-2007, 08:35 PM i like....:drool:
drewpy 07-09-2007, 08:42 PM the front fairing is part of some new rider cockpit idea, ugly but diffrent, i can relate
marko138 07-09-2007, 09:24 PM Finally a true American sport bike that can "theoretically" compete with the rest of the world, especially against the Italian V-twins. Repeat after me: Rotax is da shizznit!!!
Still don't understand why the bike still retains the belt drive though.:idk:
So what if the Buell's quality isn't top notch? They can work on that issue. All they needed was a good engine and finally they got it.
Whats wrong with Buell quality? And the belt drive? THe xb's have been pretty damn reliable from what I've read.
RATyson 07-10-2007, 09:15 AM Whats wrong with Buell quality? And the belt drive? THe xb's have been pretty damn reliable from what I've read.
I was wondering the same thing...
Buell quality is on par, if not better than all of the other manufacturers.:scratch:
marko138 07-10-2007, 09:16 AM I was wondering the same thing...
Buell quality is on par, if not better than all of the other manufacturers.:scratch:
Everything I've read tells me so. And every XB owner I've talked to concurs.
pickle.of.doom 07-10-2007, 11:58 AM Finally a true American sport bike that can "theoretically" compete with the rest of the world, especially against the Italian V-twins. Repeat after me: Rotax is da shizznit!!!
Still don't understand why the bike still retains the belt drive though.:idk:
So what if the Buell's quality isn't top notch? They can work on that issue. All they needed was a good engine and finally they got it.
Chain- 4-5 lbs
Belt, 1.2 lbs or something. Thats mass that is spinning. I can see why they think it is a good idea.
http://www.cycleworld.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=399
Front is ugly as hell, but the rest looks pretty good.
marko138 07-10-2007, 12:13 PM Chain- 4-5 lbs
Belt, 1.2 lbs or something. Thats mass that is spinning. I can see why they think it is a good idea.
http://www.cycleworld.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=399
Front is ugly as hell, but the rest looks pretty good.
Thats a good write up. The styling of the bike is already growing on me. Although the 'Bolt looks better.
Gas Man 07-10-2007, 12:16 PM Chain- 4-5 lbs
Belt, 1.2 lbs or something. Thats mass that is spinning. I can see why they think it is a good idea.
http://www.cycleworld.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=399
Front is ugly as hell, but the rest looks pretty good.
Thank you sir!!
As long as the coggs can handle the power the belt is actually alot better.
I think its a great step. Making it look more like its Jap rivels and stepping up the power HUGE amounts. Plus the redline... can we say FUN FACTOR!!!
I can't wait to test ride one!!!
Gas Man 07-10-2007, 12:19 PM Thank you sir!!
As long as the coggs can handle the power the belt is actually alot better.
I think its a great step. Making it look more like its Jap rivels and stepping up the power HUGE amounts. Plus the redline... can we say FUN FACTOR!!!
I can't wait to test ride one!!!
And yes, the write up is AWESOME!!! The bike looks alot like a CBR in the front end by the headlights...
And I don't mind the air scoops. Give it a cool new look. Besides I'm sure peeps will be painting them to body color and stuff... who knows!!
marko138 07-10-2007, 12:21 PM Thank you sir!!
As long as the coggs can handle the power the belt is actually alot better.
I think its a great step. Making it look more like its Jap rivels and stepping up the power HUGE amounts. Plus the redline... can we say FUN FACTOR!!!
I can't wait to test ride one!!!
I know you already know this...but you dont need a 10.5 redline on a twin. They dont make all the power at the top. It's a stupid misconception that uneducated riders have. But what choice does Erik have? He needs to sell bikes...and they aren't going to catch on without a more power. And how do you gain hp?...you increase redline.
Gas Man 07-10-2007, 12:30 PM Well this is true... but the ducs do it. It will all come out in the wash when peeps get that thing on a dyno!!!
Rider 07-10-2007, 12:37 PM I know you already know this...but you dont need a 10.5 redline on a twin. They dont make all the power at the top. It's a stupid misconception that uneducated riders have. But what choice does Erik have? He needs to sell bikes...and they aren't going to catch on without a more power. And how do you gain hp?...you increase redline.
Twisty increased the red line on his race RC51 from 9.5 up to 12.5 I think. Must have been a reason.. :idk:
marko138 07-10-2007, 12:44 PM Twisty increased the red line on his race RC51 from 9.5 up to 12.5 I think. Must have been a reason.. :idk:
:idk: Who cares.
Rider 07-10-2007, 12:46 PM :idk: Who cares.
Your the one who brought up the increase in redline comment and you said they did it for no reason, I was just saying there must be a reason. :idk:
marko138 07-10-2007, 01:02 PM Your the one who brought up the increase in redline comment and you said they did it for no reason, I was just saying there must be a reason. :idk:
To sell bikes.
Bluebolt 07-10-2007, 04:41 PM redline schmedline sure its cool if its usable, but its not really needed other then to attract the people that think "my wang is huge cuz my bike revs to the moon!" like marko said. you wouldnt rev the firebolt to 12,000 rpm simply because its speed all comes down low where its more usable. :cheers:
drewpy 07-10-2007, 05:34 PM so, lets limit all products to their sterotypes and everyone should start on a 250, sounds like a boring ass world
Bluebolt 07-10-2007, 06:39 PM im not trying to offend or sterotype anyone, its just the truth. If buell made that same bike with a 7k redline i bet half the people who are 'non buell' enthusiests wouldnt have the intrest that they do now. Because a 'sportbike' or 'superbike' or whatever has to rev high to be fast, right?
drewpy 07-10-2007, 06:44 PM but higher redline, with the same torque and low end is a better engine- better engine, better bike, more buyers
fnfalman 07-10-2007, 07:08 PM For those who are enamored with belt drive, pray tell, how are you guys going to change your gearing ratio with the belt drive?
As far as Buell quality and reliability go, the fan switch for the rear cylinder head's failure is well documented. Not to mention for a bike that costs nearly ten grands, the quality of the components look like crap.
But I am willing to forgo the fit & finish if the performance is there.
As far as the higher redline goes...gee whiz, I don't know, it's because the bike is a watercooled Rotax V-twin therefore it can rev faster than the Harley piece-of-junk engine?:wink:
Harley engines are cute for cruisers and choppers but a performance motorcycle needs a performance engine.
There's nothing wrong with sourcing out for the specialists. When Harley wanted to make a fast cruiser, who did they go to? Porsche, of course. What's so surprising about Buell getting the Austrian Rotax engine? Them Germans and Austrians know something about mechanical excellence.
drewpy 07-10-2007, 07:11 PM :iagree:
fnfalman 07-10-2007, 07:13 PM im not trying to offend or sterotype anyone, its just the truth. If buell made that same bike with a 7k redline i bet half the people who are 'non buell' enthusiests wouldnt have the intrest that they do now. Because a 'sportbike' or 'superbike' or whatever has to rev high to be fast, right?
Ahhh, revving high and fast is how an engine makes power:wink:
Let's not get into the debate about watercooled engine vs aircooled engine because that's like comparing apple to orange. But let's compare the 1200CC Thunderstorm engine to the BMW 1200CC boxer twin in the R1200S moto. Both are aircooled big twins. The R1200S puts out 122-HP and 82-lbft of torque. The Buell XB12R puts out 103-HP and 80-something lbft of torque. The torque outputs are similar because of the displacement of the engines is similar. But the BMW makes a lot more power because it revs to 8500-RPM.
Sure, power isn't everything if you're making a sporty bike. But when you want to make a true sports bike, power is just about everything...up to a point, at least.
Nobody I know of hates the Buells. But they do hate that Harley engine. Now, finally the Buell will get an engine that puts out some respectable oomph in order to truly compete against its peers. Hooray for that:dthumb:
fnfalman 07-10-2007, 07:17 PM I know you already know this...but you dont need a 10.5 redline on a twin. They dont make all the power at the top. It's a stupid misconception that uneducated riders have. But what choice does Erik have? He needs to sell bikes...and they aren't going to catch on without a more power. And how do you gain hp?...you increase redline.
V-twins don't make power on top? Have you looked at the Aprilia or the Ducati power curve lately?
Sure, a V-twin, due to the masses of the large pistons, can't be revved effectively up to 14,000-RPM, but a modern watercooled V-twin will rev to 10 or 11K easily and makes power all the way up to the redline.
And they have plenty of grunts down low too. It's called engineering and product improvement. You Harley engine people can sugarcoat it all you want but motors make power when they rev high.
I find it's rather funny that the Buell owners are knocking this badass Buell. Sounds the same way as the Harley owners knocking on the V-Rod because it's "too powerful". Gimme a break:scratch:
marko138 07-10-2007, 08:54 PM V-twins don't make power on top? Have you looked at the Aprilia or the Ducati power curve lately?
Sure, a V-twin, due to the masses of the large pistons, can't be revved effectively up to 14,000-RPM, but a modern watercooled V-twin will rev to 10 or 11K easily and makes power all the way up to the redline.
And they have plenty of grunts down low too. It's called engineering and product improvement. You Harley engine people can sugarcoat it all you want but motors make power when they rev high.
I find it's rather funny that the Buell owners are knocking this badass Buell. Sounds the same way as the Harley owners knocking on the V-Rod because it's "too powerful". Gimme a break:scratch:
I'm not a Harley anything. I like the Buells for what they are. Even with the sportster engine they put down the kind of power I'm looking for. I'd go as far as to say I strongly dislike or even hate HD's. But I've rode a couple of Buells. I'm not looking for the top end punch. I dont need to go much faster than 100. I want to corner and I want a bike that handles very well. The XB's fit that bill to a tee.
Yeah...I've seen Ducati and Aprilia torque curves. I know what a vtwin can do....but I also know what a Buell can do. They are marketed to different people. My point is not every bike on the market needs a sky high redline.
As far as fit and finish not being top quality...Erik Buell is doing the best he can with what he's got. Now he's moving forward.
Gas Man 07-10-2007, 09:01 PM For those who are enamored with belt drive, pray tell, how are you guys going to change your gearing ratio with the belt drive?
Same way you do your chain. Change the pulleys...
TIGGER 07-10-2007, 11:33 PM Most of my family works or have worked in factories that are involved in the auto industry so the pressure to buy "American" is huge in my family. Those that own bikes mostly buy Harleys as I have in the past. That all changed for me when I got to ride a new '88 V-Max and it was OVER for Harley! I've lived with the disdain and ridicule and even won over some cousins and whatnot. I swore I'd not go back until Harley made a bike that; performed with the Japanese,maintained like the Japanese,cost about the same,and looked good. Well,3 out of 4 isn't bad. The thing is UGLY!!! The cooling shrouds/intakes are huge and why not a full fairing like the race bike? In fact, just sell a replica of the racebike. Why no integrated turn sigals in the rear? That tail section looks dated. Why no 6" rim with a 190mm tire in the rear? What's up with that massive exhaust cover/ assembly ? Besides,it's absolutely zero help with the relatives as very little of the bike is made in the U.S.A. I really want to buy American,I do. Just please give me something to work with!
BTW belt drive is extremely viable as a final drive solution. I love the lack of maintenance(lubed the chain today,blah!) and the lack of driveline lash! Just don't crow too loudly about weight savings until I hear how much that rear pulley weighs. Honda dabbled with belt drive in the '70s/80s,snowmobiles still use it and if you think about it, some of those "customs" that suckers are dropping 50-100 grand for put out serious hp/torque numbers and still use belts plus they are pushing bikes that weigh 600-800 pounds!!!
Oh and has everyone forgot the RC51? It redlined around 10k+ and won both AMA and SBK titles. Also,according to Buell's spec sheet the 1125r makes top power around 9500 rpm, so a 10500 redline makes sense. I am honestly glad that Buell/Harley is getting closer,I just hope they get there before I'm too old to ride!:wink:
JK_DILLA 07-11-2007, 09:23 AM just about every year of buells existence, the universal HD motor has been its major knock. I think every message board ive ever seen says the same thing over and over about the motor. so now they have a Rotax engineered motor (remember aprilia twins) and people are still knocking all things buell. Didnt they just satisfy everyones bemoaned prerequisite? :idk:
marko138 07-11-2007, 09:29 AM Most of my family works or have worked in factories that are involved in the auto industry so the pressure to buy "American" is huge in my family. Those that own bikes mostly buy Harleys as I have in the past. That all changed for me when I got to ride a new '88 V-Max and it was OVER for Harley! I've lived with the disdain and ridicule and even won over some cousins and whatnot. I swore I'd not go back until Harley made a bike that; performed with the Japanese,maintained like the Japanese,cost about the same,and looked good. Well,3 out of 4 isn't bad. The thing is UGLY!!! The cooling shrouds/intakes are huge and why not a full fairing like the race bike? In fact, just sell a replica of the racebike. Why no integrated turn sigals in the rear? That tail section looks dated. Why no 6" rim with a 190mm tire in the rear? What's up with that massive exhaust cover/ assembly ? Besides,it's absolutely zero help with the relatives as very little of the bike is made in the U.S.A. I really want to buy American,I do. Just please give me something to work with!
BTW belt drive is extremely viable as a final drive solution. I love the lack of maintenance(lubed the chain today,blah!) and the lack of driveline lash! Just don't crow too loudly about weight savings until I hear how much that rear pulley weighs. Honda dabbled with belt drive in the '70s/80s,snowmobiles still use it and if you think about it, some of those "customs" that suckers are dropping 50-100 grand for put out serious hp/torque numbers and still use belts plus they are pushing bikes that weigh 600-800 pounds!!!
Oh and has everyone forgot the RC51? It redlined around 10k+ and won both AMA and SBK titles. Also,according to Buell's spec sheet the 1125r makes top power around 9500 rpm, so a 10500 redline makes sense. I am honestly glad that Buell/Harley is getting closer,I just hope they get there before I'm too old to ride!:wink:
The 5.5 rim and a 180 would turn quicker than the 6 and 190. Thus more means to Erik B's 'own the corners' mantra.
R1up0n1 07-11-2007, 01:45 PM considering it's a V-twin.... I don't want another V-twin so I'm not really interested.
Bluebolt 07-11-2007, 07:35 PM again dont get me wrong i think its great that buell is moving foward and trying to get more 'mainstream' and i love the new bike and the engine too. (hell id love to buy one but them elephant ears wont fit through my livingroom door though) the point im trying to make is, they didnt need to use an engine with a high redline but they are offering what the average buyer thinks they need and in the end i think with a few minor tweeks this may be the bike that does it for buell :dthumb:
TIGGER 07-11-2007, 08:32 PM The 5.5 rim and a 180 would turn quicker than the 6 and 190. Thus more means to Erik B's 'own the corners' mantra. I know,I just like the look better. Heck,if that's the logic why not a 5"/160mm rear? Oh I missed one,what no gear indicator? The damn thing tells you your mpg but not what gear you're in? HUH?:idk:
marko138 07-11-2007, 08:34 PM I know,I just like the look better. Heck,if that's the logic why not a 5"/160mm rear? Oh I missed one,what no gear indicator? The damn thing tells you your mpg but not what gear you're in? HUH?:idk:
You got a point on that gear indicator.
fnfalman 07-12-2007, 01:07 AM the point im trying to make is, they didnt need to use an engine with a high redline but they are offering what the average buyer thinks they need and in the end i think with a few minor tweeks this may be the bike that does it for buell :dthumb:
They didn't need to use a V-twin with high redline? You gotta be kidding me, right?
What else is he suppose to use? The Harley engine worked out so well, huh?
In order to be competitive, he has to use a watercooled V-twin with high revving capability for more power. That's it.
FD2BLK 07-12-2007, 10:04 AM he has to use a watercooled V-twin with high revving capability for more power. That's it.
I think the point of the original Buell has been lost in the chase to win races and that is a shame IMHO. No they don't need a water cooled V-Twin, look at the air cooled Ducati S2R 1000 Monster, for a true street bike. I have ridden and owned several twins including Honda and Buell and for me I don't race at the track or use the street as a race track I want a twin because of low end torque, handling and ability to get the power to the ground not HP at 12K+, if I wanted that I would get a 600. I am not bashing the new bike as I think just think it is a step in a new direction to a competitive V-Twin race effort rather then the street fighter image they have sold for so long.
tallywacker 07-12-2007, 10:23 AM I think the point of the original Buell has been lost in the chase to win races and that is a shame IMHO. No they don't need a water cooled V-Twin, look at the air cooled Ducati S2R 1000 Monster, for a true want a street bike. I have ridden and owned several twins including Honda and Buell and for me I don't race at the track or use the street as a race track I want a twin because of low end torque, handling and ability to get the power to the ground not HP at 12K+, if I wanted that I would get a 600. I am not bashing the new bike as I think just think it is a step in a new direction to a competitive V-Twin race effort rather then the street fighter image they have sold for so long.
Many people have been waiting to buy an American bike that has a chance of being competive with the rest of the world. I deffinatly have my eye on it. Another good reason to buy it they finally covered up that ugly ass under body exhaust and put some real headlights on it not some cheap ass projector fog lamps used as headlights
marko138 07-12-2007, 11:49 AM The real question is how the hell did Erik get the Harley big wigs to sign of on an Austrian power plant???????
Bluebolt 07-12-2007, 05:08 PM They didn't need to use a V-twin with high redline? You gotta be kidding me, right?
What else is he suppose to use? The Harley engine worked out so well, huh?
In order to be competitive, he has to use a watercooled V-twin with high revving capability for more power. That's it.
actually the harley motor worked out fine especially for a 30 year old design, oh what your talking about the few bikes with the oil pump problem or the handful of guys you read about on the web bad mouthing buells because the bike they never took care of blew up?
I bet if they invested as much money as they spent on R&D for this new motor the 45% v-twin could have been made into a very competitive motor.
i belive the real reason for the new motor was to remove themselves from the whole 'its a harley' thing when someone sees a buell. I dont think thats a bad thing either and i never once said i disliked the new engine.
My original point was that there is always other options then to do what every one else does, not to argue with people over 'whos this is that' and 'what that is where'
anyhow im done and its all just opinions, and you know what they say about opinions ? :flush:
pickle.of.doom 07-12-2007, 05:26 PM No, not anything to do with oil, the godawful lack of power is the problem!
Bluebolt 07-12-2007, 06:24 PM No, not anything to do with oil, the godawful lack of power is the problem!
mkay then ....... according to sportrider magazine
03 cbr600rr: 107hp and 45ft lbs at the wheel
03 xb12r: 99hp and 75 ftlbs at the wheel
your point is..........? :lol:
pickle.of.doom 07-12-2007, 08:24 PM Yeah and my 996 CC liquid cooled v-twin would smoke all over that 1200... your point is? This is the next big step Buell has needed to be a *serious* contender in the global market. You should be happy for it, not against it.
TIGGER 07-12-2007, 09:02 PM No, not anything to do with oil, the godawful lack of power is the problem!
Don't forget that loosen your fillings shake the things had!:yikes: That might be cool on a cruiser but on a street-fighter/crotch-rocket wannabe?
TIGGER 07-12-2007, 09:16 PM mkay then ....... according to sportrider magazine
03 cbr600rr: 107hp and 45ft lbs at the wheel
03 xb12r: 99hp and 75 ftlbs at the wheel
your point is..........? :lol:
whoa,do you realize that you're trying to make a POSITIVE point about the power of your 1200cc bike by comparing it to a 600cc bike? Heck,why not compare sticker price while you're at it. Heck,see how many recalls Buell has had vs Honda in 2003. Look at the 1/4 mile times and the 0-60 times. The two bikes just don't compare. Buell has his niche and as long as he stays there he'll be fine. If he trys to come into sportbike territory with the Harley anchor tied to his butt,he can't win. Harley/Buell came back to AMA racing with a "cheater" bike,got all kinds of rule exclusions,had an almost DOUBLE cc advantage,spent reportedly millions of dollars and still couldn't compete with 600cc machines that cost under ten grand with maybe ten grand worth of work done to them. That's pathetic!!!
FD2BLK 07-12-2007, 09:27 PM On second thought forget it
OneSickPsycho 07-12-2007, 11:33 PM mkay then ....... according to sportrider magazine
03 cbr600rr: 107hp and 45ft lbs at the wheel
03 xb12r: 99hp and 75 ftlbs at the wheel
your point is..........? :lol:
Sport Rider had the XB12 at 99hp/75ftlbs at the wheel? All the figures I've seen have been 103hp and about 84ftlbs @ the crank... Sounds like those number may be a bit off, but I have zero to back that with... :idk:
pickle.of.doom 07-13-2007, 10:56 AM My point is that the only thing that has been holding Buell back so far is the fact that HD MAKES them put that crap air cooled engine in there.... now that is not the case, so it should be "sky is the limit" for Buell now. Im excited about it and I don't even own a Buell, so I don;t see why Buell owners aren't excited.
Are you worried that what has been said about the old motor will be glaringly obvious when compared to the new?
OneSickPsycho 07-13-2007, 11:11 AM My point is that the only thing that has been holding Buell back so far is the fact that HD MAKES them put that crap air cooled engine in there.... now that is not the case, so it should be "sky is the limit" for Buell now. Im excited about it and I don't even own a Buell, so I don;t see why Buell owners aren't excited.
Are you worried that what has been said about the old motor will be glaringly obvious when compared to the new?
I am an excited Buell owner... Now if they could just make it not ugly... Like put that engine into the regular XB's...
Phenix_Rider 07-13-2007, 11:50 AM I am an excited Buell owner... Now if they could just make it not ugly... Like put that engine into the regular XB's...
:withstupi Maybe offer a smaller displacement too. Like the 9R was.
OneSickPsycho 07-13-2007, 12:08 PM :withstupi Maybe offer a smaller displacement too. Like the 9R was.
I could honestly see them phasing out the 9 or combining the 9 and 12... Like a higher revving inbetween version... XB11 that redlines at 9k? That would be interesting (and can already be done with aftermarket parts).
pickle.of.doom 07-13-2007, 12:37 PM Oh yeah, for sure OSP. I bet that, unless there is a major catastrophe with this motor, there will be a whole line of bikes centered around the same motor in various states of tune, as well as still sticking with the current models, to please a lot more people than either could do on their own.
Bluebolt 07-13-2007, 05:12 PM Yeah and my 996 CC liquid cooled v-twin would smoke all over that 1200... your point is? This is the next big step Buell has needed to be a *serious* contender in the global market. You should be happy for it, not against it.
yea you'd smoke all over me ..... right into the back of a truck, im talking street riding not racing. thats my point. :luck:
and I am excited in a way about the new buells, but i think in a way alot of buellers want them to stay non mainstream, just the way they started off. I like being different and having a non "me too" bike, i went to a bike show where there was so many GSXRs and such im sure the owners could barely tell which was thiers. As i said before i also think this is the bike that will be the platform for buell to do it big, we can only hope they dont stray to far from their roots.
pickle.of.doom 07-13-2007, 05:20 PM :luck: :help: :bash: :cheers: Thats all I have left to say on this.
FD2BLK 07-13-2007, 07:44 PM Yeah and my 996 CC liquid cooled v-twin would smoke all over that 1200... your point is? This is the next big step Buell has needed to be a *serious* contender in the global market. You should be happy for it, not against it.
I was going to blow this off but I went and dug up my old dyno charts from my Superhawk. With a full Yosh system and properly jetted the bike made 103 SAE corrected RWHP and the baseline made with D&D slip ons it made 99 RWHP. My XB12R with the special Ops modified stock muffler made 102 SAE corrected RWHP with 89 Ft Pnds of TQ. THe dyno sheet for the hawk is a bit long in the tooth and did not have the Tq curve but I know it was in the upper 80's. So unless you bike has an oiling problem I don't think it will smoke all over an XB12 and having owned both bikes I know the Buell both turns better and stops better but the Honda will defiantly pull it on top end due to a much better trany that has 6 gears instead of 5
fnfalman 07-13-2007, 09:13 PM I'm very sure that Erik Buell will keep the concrete mixer truck engine models going alongside this superBuell. If you like the aircooled V-twin, then you like the aircooled V-twin. Ducati still sells a whole boatload of the aircooled Desmodue bikes. The Hypermotard uses the aircooled V-twin.
But the point is that for those of us who want an American sport bike that can run with the big dogs will now have the chance to own one. Nothing wrong with Harley-Davidson and Buell that German and Austrian engineering can't fix. :cheers:
FD2BLK 07-13-2007, 09:30 PM Nothing wrong with Harley-Davidson and Buell that German and Austrian engineering can't fix. :cheers:
:lol:
I know one thing for sure the race effort can not get any worse, hell if they can complete a race it would be an improvement
pickle.of.doom 07-13-2007, 11:27 PM Whatever, I'm speaking from the eye of the public, not as a Buell owner. The biggest downfall anyone ever says when they talk about the Buell is "great bike, handles like its on rails, but just lacks power"... Those aren't my words. Then someone gets upset and starts showing some baseline stats of my 600rr vs a bike with 2x the power... I say why not compare twin vs twin, my 996 gives up 200 cc's and still beats it... his argument comes back as "Who cares, I don't need power I'm talking street riding... "
I give up...
tallywacker 07-13-2007, 11:29 PM exactly quit making excuses for a company that needs to get its act together
Bluebolt 07-14-2007, 09:07 AM yup you guys are right buells suck, your bikes are the coolest, mines slow yours is faster. As someone said earlier im glad my bike is only a 'wannabe sportbike' because like all the people that come up to me and tell me how my bike sucks and honda does this better or such and such is faster, yet they had to ask me what kind of bike it is, because they've never seen one let alone ridden one! just a bunch of misinformed Dicks that think because they have a jap bike they are king ****. Sure your faster do i care? no i didnt buy this bike to go ripping around over 100mph.. Hopefully this new bike will bring buell more into the light and show that they arent as ****ty as the average misinformed public thinks they are.
tallywacker 07-14-2007, 09:16 AM yup you guys are right buells suck, your bikes are the coolest, mines slow yours is faster. As someone said earlier im glad my bike is only a 'wannabe sportbike' because like all the people that come up to me and tell me how my bike sucks and honda does this better or such and such is faster, yet they had to ask me what kind of bike it is, because they've never seen one let alone ridden one! just a bunch of misinformed Dicks that think because they have a jap bike they are king ****. Sure your faster do i care? no i didnt buy this bike to go ripping around over 100mph.. Hopefully this new bike will bring buell more into the light and show that they arent as ****ty as the average misinformed public thinks they are.
More excuses, i know their fun bikes to ride but they arent on par with the rest of the world and thats the bottom line. There not going to sell until they prove their worth in racing and on the street. I wish they would and i really hope this is a step in the right direction because i would love to own an american made bike.
Shift 07-14-2007, 09:33 AM yup you guys are right buells suck, your bikes are the coolest, mines slow yours is faster. As someone said earlier im glad my bike is only a 'wannabe sportbike' because like all the people that come up to me and tell me how my bike sucks and honda does this better or such and such is faster, yet they had to ask me what kind of bike it is, because they've never seen one let alone ridden one! just a bunch of misinformed Dicks that think because they have a jap bike they are king ****. Sure your faster do i care? no i didnt buy this bike to go ripping around over 100mph.. Hopefully this new bike will bring buell more into the light and show that they arent as ****ty as the average misinformed public thinks they are.
Ok, now your starting to be the dick. No one is saying Buells suck. In fact for what they are they have been great. That is, a great handling bike thats perfect for someone who rides a lot in town on on the twisties from 45-75 mph. However, and this is not putting the previous models down its just the were not designed for it, for those of us who like to do track days (constantly high speeds and high rpms) or for those that just want to see and "american" made bike hang with the Japs at the track then this bike and other models to follow it could potentially be the best thing for Buell because it will bring in a lot more riders (unfortuanlity some squids that were previously turned away because of the low top speeds on other models). So once again nothing is wrong with your current bike, for what it is designed to do it is a great bike. May not be the fastest in the top end, but it handles well and acceleration is awsome. But trying to compare it to any of the current Jap race replicas is like comparing the old apples to oranges. However this new Buell is a totally different beast and Eric is just trying to creat a bike that he feels has a better chance of going toe to toe with the big 4 jap bikes.
Bluebolt 07-14-2007, 09:47 AM excuses where? you just proved what i said was true "they arent on par with the rest of the world and thats the bottom line" really? buells were not put out to compete against the I-4 jap bikes it was made for the person who wanted a great handling very torquey american 'sportbike' (for lack of a better word) honda, suzuki, yamaha, kawasaki, ducati, bmw ect. all have bikes that are faster and they all make bikes that are slower too. Im not sure what you consider the par for the rest of the world is, but thats the type of crap i referenced running into all the time.
The xbrr racing effort was lame, but it helped devolop some new parts for the XB line and im sure somethings towards the new 1125r.
tallywacker 07-14-2007, 09:50 AM excuses where? you just proved what i said was true "they arent on par with the rest of the world and thats the bottom line" really? buells were not put out to compete against the I-4 jap bikes it was made for the person who wanted a great handling very torquey american 'sportbike' (for lack of a better word) honda, suzuki, yamaha, kawasaki, ducati, bmw ect. all have bikes that are faster and they all make bikes that are slower too. Im not sure what you consider the par for the rest of the world is, but thats the type of crap i referenced running into all the time.
The xbrr racing effort was lame, but it helped devolop some new parts for the XB line and im sure somethings towards the new 1125r.
Your crazy dude. If something doesnt happen soon the buell name is just going to go under. All the HD dealers in my area that used to sell buell's have thrown in the towel. While the Jap bike dealers build huge stores. It all comes down to why by a slow bike that handles good when you can buy a fast bike that handles good.
Bluebolt 07-14-2007, 09:52 AM Shift: im not trying to be a dick and i know not all sportbike guys are like that. But i didnt make up any of that, its true and i have to hear it all the time from a-holes. there are the few guys who have come up to me and said they like it too so. :dthumb:
Bluebolt 07-14-2007, 09:54 AM Your crazy dudeyou sir win a prize!
somebody lock this ****ing thread cuz if that didnt make sence to you then nothing is going to.
Shift 07-14-2007, 09:55 AM So much argueing:nonod: . Just read my post above it pretty much somes up what each of yal are trying to say. And as for Tally and others; stop putting others bikes down. As long as they ride your no cool/better then them I don't care if your on a zx-10 and their on a 250 as long as your riding your alright with me.
tallywacker 07-14-2007, 09:58 AM So much argueing:nonod: . Just read my post above it pretty much somes up what each of yal are trying to say. And as for Tally and others; stop putting others bikes down. As long as they ride your no cool/better then them I don't care if your on a zx-10 and their on a 250 as long as your riding your alright with me.
Exactly im not attacking anyone for owning one. Just trying to get my point across that if they want to remain a company the need to make smart business moves. This new bike looks like a step in the right direction.
OneSickPsycho 07-14-2007, 10:40 AM Beer.
TIGGER 07-14-2007, 11:03 AM Exactly im not attacking anyone for owning one. Just trying to get my point across that if they want to remain a company the need to make smart business moves. This new bike looks like a step in the right direction.
Exactly!!! This reminds me of the thread where someone put down some girls in a picture at NOPI. A bunch of girls on the forum took it personally and bang a big arguement ensued. I don't think that anyone personally attacked this guy and noone can argue that Buell hasn't had their problems. For a company like HD to go to an outside company to supply them with a motor honestly has a desperate feel to it to me. I know they've done it before,but after all the claims by them that the old motor was fine,seems like they're throwing in the towel. I've ridden a couple Buells and they've never made any sense to me. I don't think that they handle any better than my GSXR,they make half the power and are slower(yes I'm a squid 'cause I care about top end and HP) plus they cost the same or more than my bike. Of course,I can't bring myself to purchase an Aprillia or Ducati for similar reasons, cost vs performance. Why pay $13,000+ for a machine that is outperformed by a bike that cost me $9500 out the door? I agree that you don't see that many Buells on the road and I also understand that you'd like to parlay that fact into a positive point to convince yourself and others that you've made an intelligent buying decision but sometimes the world doesn't beat a path to your door 'cause it ain't a better mousetrap,it's just different. That's an item that Buell has in abundance...quirky differentness. They've gone out of their way to be different and if your main goal is to be different then there you go!!! I really WANT to buy a Buell or another "American" brand that comes along. I keep hoping that Polaris/Victory will step up to the plate someday but until an U.S. company produces an apple I'm not buying an orange and trying to convince myself that I really didn't want an apple in the first place.(or that oranges are better 'cause everyone else has apples)
PlayfulGod 07-14-2007, 11:10 AM I dont care what a person rides. Its the point they ride! I like all sorts of bikes. From sport bikes to choppers, to stretched n lowered drag bikes.
nghtybkr 07-14-2007, 11:12 AM Ok, now your starting to be the dick. No one is saying Buells suck. In fact for what they are they have been great. That is, a great handling bike thats perfect for someone who rides a lot in town on on the twisties from 45-75 mph. However, and this is not putting the previous models down its just the were not designed for it, for those of us who like to do track days (constantly high speeds and high rpms) or for those that just want to see and "american" made bike hang with the Japs at the track then this bike and other models to follow it could potentially be the best thing for Buell because it will bring in a lot more riders (unfortuanlity some squids that were previously turned away because of the low top speeds on other models). So once again nothing is wrong with your current bike, for what it is designed to do it is a great bike. May not be the fastest in the top end, but it handles well and acceleration is awsome. But trying to compare it to any of the current Jap race replicas is like comparing the old apples to oranges. However this new Buell is a totally different beast and Eric is just trying to creat a bike that he feels has a better chance of going toe to toe with the big 4 jap bikes.
:iagree: :withstupi
It's their opinion roll with it don't get your panties in a bunch.
tallywacker 07-14-2007, 11:23 AM I dont care what a person rides. Its the point they ride! I like all sorts of bikes. From sport bikes to choppers, to stretched n lowered drag bikes.
Thats not the point of this argument. We trying to discuss what would keep the buell nameplate alive.
PlayfulGod 07-14-2007, 11:24 AM Thats not the point of this argument. We trying to discuss what would keep the buell nameplate alive.
Simple, people buy it regardless of its downfalls.
FD2BLK 07-14-2007, 03:19 PM Wow, I guess things picked up a little. I find some of these post nothing more then Buell bashing period. You don't buy a twin to be the fastest in a straight line period, not a Honda, not a Ducati and not a Buell. Is the old XB12 a little down on power compared to the Ducati 999 (Same time frame) yes, does it matter to most our ridding styles/Ability, no. I ride every weekend with a group of 20-30 riders and funny enough I don't seem to get left in the weeds. Lets face it Buell XB series was only the second generation of bikes for the brand and IMHO they did great job with it. Could they have done better yes but the tranny would have been my starting point not the power plant. For most of the masses it seems as if the 1125R would make the whole "The bike lacks power" irrelevant and it even addresses the issue I had with th 5 speed trany. I am glad they kept the XB series in the line up because I have a feeling the new bike is more race orientated to meet the needs of the masses. I don't want a race bike and that is the reason I sold my 600 Race bike because I was done racing and haven't even went to a track day in 3+ years.
FD2BLK 07-14-2007, 03:27 PM No one is saying Buells suck. In fact for what they are they have been great. That is, a great handling bike thats perfect for someone who rides a lot in town on on the twisties from 45-75 mph. However, and this is not putting the previous models down its just the were not designed for it, for those of us who like to do track days (constantly high speeds and high rpms) or for those that just want to see and "american" made bike hang with the Japs at the track then this bike and other models to follow it could potentially be the best thing for Buell because it will bring in a lot more riders (unfortuanlity some squids that were previously turned away because of the low top speeds on other models). So once again nothing is wrong with your current bike, for what it is designed to do it is a great bike. May not be the fastest in the top end, but it handles well and acceleration is awsome. But trying to compare it to any of the current Jap race replicas is like comparing the old apples to oranges. However this new Buell is a totally different beast and Eric is just trying to creat a bike that he feels has a better chance of going toe to toe with the big 4 jap bikes.
Very good post other then the whole D@$@ thing, and I agree with almost everything posted. Again I feel as if Buell has made a decision to follow a race effort to sell more bikes and I hope it works for them but is not the reason i bought a Buell, or hell my last three bikes for that matter. I just wish they would have put some effort into another bike that followed the original philosophy of a street bike. They still hold on to the claim the bike was built around the rider but looking at thing it is obvious they wanted to keep up at the race track.
fnfalman 07-14-2007, 03:37 PM Wow, I guess things picked up a little. I find some of these post nothing more then Buell bashing period.
Some of the Buell bashing came from the Buell owners:wink:
Besides, we are not bashing Buell. We're bashing the HD engine.
marko138 07-15-2007, 09:13 AM I am an excited Buell owner... Now if they could just make it not ugly... Like put that engine into the regular XB's...
Hell F#&King yes. I wish that engine was in the 'bolt. That would be insane.
jalaan1 07-15-2007, 11:35 AM Hell F#&King yes. I wish that engine was in the 'bolt. That would be insane.
now yur talkin' my language.
that would be perfect.
JK_DILLA 07-15-2007, 05:43 PM as far as buell threads go, this one is right on schedule- :idk:
RATyson 07-16-2007, 09:18 AM I am a buell owner.. XB9SX. And I am super stoked that Buell built this new bike. I am also super stoked that they are keeping the XB line intact too (well, they are at least keeping the XB12 line.. the 9s are done.. discontinued.. nada.). The XB12 motor has also gotten a facelift as well. Higher rev'ing being one of the improvements.
This new line of Buells is a great step up. They are providing a solution to customer requests, while still providing the original buells that many love as well. Buell co. knows how to do business.
I for one like both just as much. I ride the crap out of my cityX, and I would ride the crap out of the 1125r as well if I had one (wish I could add one to the garage... but I don't think that is going to happen any time soon.)
Erik Buell designed the original XB series for street riding... period. He did not intend on them being a competitive bike for the track, so to try and compare the XB series with ANY track designed bike is just senseless. Buell was pretty much pressured into creating an XB for the track by outside forces (including buell customers) and that did not work out worth a squat... Reason? Read the first sentence.. they were not designed for it.
I used to argue about the power of Buells and whatnot... in fact, I believe I have done so on this board in the past.. but you know what?? It doesn't matter. I have fun riding my buell, and THAT is the only thing that matters to me. When I stop having fun riding my Buell.. I will get something that brings the fun back. And nobody can make me feel otherwise.
Oh, OSP, The 1125r is pretty much an XB. Just take the nose fairing and big-ole airscoops off and it would look just like an XB, with the obvious needed alterations to put the new motor in.
OneSickPsycho 07-16-2007, 11:09 AM I am a buell owner.. XB9SX. And I am super stoked that Buell built this new bike. I am also super stoked that they are keeping the XB line intact too (well, they are at least keeping the XB12 line.. the 9s are done.. discontinued.. nada.). The XB12 motor has also gotten a facelift as well. Higher rev'ing being one of the improvements.
This new line of Buells is a great step up. They are providing a solution to customer requests, while still providing the original buells that many love as well. Buell co. knows how to do business.
I for one like both just as much. I ride the crap out of my cityX, and I would ride the crap out of the 1125r as well if I had one (wish I could add one to the garage... but I don't think that is going to happen any time soon.)
Erik Buell designed the original XB series for street riding... period. He did not intend on them being a competitive bike for the track, so to try and compare the XB series with ANY track designed bike is just senseless. Buell was pretty much pressured into creating an XB for the track by outside forces (including buell customers) and that did not work out worth a squat... Reason? Read the first sentence.. they were not designed for it.
I used to argue about the power of Buells and whatnot... in fact, I believe I have done so on this board in the past.. but you know what?? It doesn't matter. I have fun riding my buell, and THAT is the only thing that matters to me. When I stop having fun riding my Buell.. I will get something that brings the fun back. And nobody can make me feel otherwise.
Oh, OSP, The 1125r is pretty much an XB. Just take the nose fairing and big-ole airscoops off and it would look just like an XB, with the obvious needed alterations to put the new motor in.
In other words, slap the ugly off it.
Good post. Reps.
Phenix_Rider 07-16-2007, 12:45 PM In other words, slap the ugly off it.
:baha:
RATyson 07-16-2007, 01:27 PM In other words, slap the ugly off it.
Good post. Reps.
Ed Zachary :cheers:
But I kind of like ugly...
z06boy 07-16-2007, 01:53 PM I dont care what a person rides. Its the point they ride! I like all sorts of bikes. From sport bikes to choppers, to stretched n lowered drag bikes.
:iagree: 100%
I've owned a Harley...a Bigdog and several sportbikes...just stfu and ride.:dthumb:
Same with cars...I like my Vette alot but there are so many other cars I like foreign and domestic...people are a trip when they are so brand loyal and so anti-everything else.:crazy:
brupska 07-20-2007, 05:44 PM Originally Posted by onesickpsycho
I am an excited Buell owner... Now if they could just make it not ugly... Like put that engine into the regular XB's...
Originally Posted by Marko138
Hell F#&King yes. I wish that engine was in the 'bolt. That would be insane.
I am with both of you on this one. The frame is pretty close to a XB frame with a higher fuel capacity, since the new engine will use more fuel then the old sportster engine. I think it needs one radiator like most watercooled bikes instead of two radiators and a full fairing instead of the two ugly scoops. Now all I need is a good excuse to tell my GF that I need one of these right along side my 04 XB12R LOL
OneSickPsycho 07-20-2007, 09:50 PM Originally Posted by onesickpsycho
I am an excited Buell owner... Now if they could just make it not ugly... Like put that engine into the regular XB's...
Originally Posted by Marko138
Hell F#&King yes. I wish that engine was in the 'bolt. That would be insane.
I am with both of you on this one. The frame is pretty close to a XB frame with a higher fuel capacity, since the new engine will use more fuel then the old sportster engine. I think it needs one radiator like most watercooled bikes instead of two radiators and a full fairing instead of the two ugly scoops. Now all I need is a good excuse to tell my GF that I need one of these right along side my 04 XB12R LOL
Hard to do one radiator in the front and keep the short wheelbase...
brupska 07-21-2007, 12:41 AM I am sure it could be done with a thin curved radiator and a lot of surface area and a full fairing. I will have to see one in person to know for sure.
OneSickPsycho 07-21-2007, 08:17 AM I am sure it could be done with a thin curved radiator and a lot of surface area and a full fairing. I will have to see one in person to know for sure.
I was thinking... Mount the radiator in front of the forks... If it could be done tastefully that is... Then again, I don't know what that would do to the handling... :idk:
marko138 07-21-2007, 08:20 AM I dont want to see a full faired Buell streetbike....the naked makes them stand out.
jalaan1 07-21-2007, 08:50 AM I dont want to see a full faired Buell streetbike....the naked makes them stand out.
:iagree:
OneSickPsycho 07-21-2007, 08:55 AM I dont want to see a full faired Buell streetbike....the naked makes them stand out.
Everything is better naked...
In fact, it has been a dream of mine for quite some time to buy and old ratted out pickup or Jeep and tear all the body panels off of it... Weld up a cage for everything... Make a Mad Max Death Machine. My uncle did it LONG ago with an old full size pickup... Kind of a railbuggy/rock crawler looking thing... Anybody in the Denver area might see it... It's blue the last time I checked...
ptowntsi 07-21-2007, 11:46 AM at the end of page 4 i give up. this should have been a discussion of the 1125R and why its going to be a great bike...not a pissing contest of jap bike vs buell's.
PiZdETS 07-21-2007, 12:07 PM Everything is better naked...
In fact, it has been a dream of mine for quite some time to buy and old ratted out pickup or Jeep and tear all the body panels off of it... Weld up a cage for everything... Make a Mad Max Death Machine. My uncle did it LONG ago with an old full size pickup... Kind of a railbuggy/rock crawler looking thing... Anybody in the Denver area might see it... It's blue the last time I checked...
Sport compact car did something similar (http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0208_technical_assistance_program/index.html) to a sentra a few years back, I lol'd.
They did this to a Nissan Sentra to win a drag race a reader wrote to them about. :baha:
http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0208_20zoom+2001_nissan_sentra_se+bare_side_view.jpg
ptowntsi 07-21-2007, 01:20 PM haha!! that was a hilarious article, read it a couple years ago. I think i might even look into getting this new buell too.
OneSickPsycho 07-21-2007, 11:40 PM I too read that a while ago... Very funny stuff!!!
JJFast 07-22-2007, 11:27 AM hey guys, little off topic, but had a question. If i was looking to get a 600cc bike. which do you guys think is the smalles 600 bike. by smallest i mean size height, lenght, width. I wanted to upgrade from a 250 but kinda nervous to get on a 600. i want something thats manageable????
The more I ride and learn about my buell , the more i luv it !....1125r looks like a major step in the right direction with a great design.
JJFast 07-22-2007, 11:40 AM redline schmedline sure its cool if its usable, but its not really needed other then to attract the people that think "my wang is huge cuz my bike revs to the moon!" like marko said. you wouldnt rev the firebolt to 12,000 rpm simply because its speed all comes down low where its more usable. :cheers:
I was , must admit a little butt hurt, when I tach'd out at 130 on a beautiful open run outta the mountains. xb12r.:2cents:
JJFast 07-22-2007, 12:05 PM helll yeah
tallywacker 07-22-2007, 12:13 PM Everything is better naked...
your mother is better naked...
JJFast 07-22-2007, 12:18 PM Wow..this is why this site rocks....buell and metric riders hangin out...its all about ridin the pavement...
tallywacker 07-22-2007, 12:20 PM Wow..this is why this site rocks....buell and metric riders hangin out...its all about ridin the pavement...
:dthumb:
OneSickPsycho 07-22-2007, 12:25 PM your mother is better naked...
You sick flucking bastard... My mom died about 5 years ago, so you may want to reconsider.
Wow..this is why this site rocks....buell and metric riders hangin out...its all about ridin the pavement...
:twfrox:
tallywacker 07-22-2007, 12:26 PM You sick flucking bastard... My mom died about 5 years ago, so you may want to reconsider.
Damnit trumped again
OneSickPsycho 07-22-2007, 12:32 PM Damnit trumped again
Yeah would be if it were true... My mom is alive... You just probably wouldn't want to see her naked...
tallywacker 07-22-2007, 12:35 PM Yeah would be if it were true... My mom is alive... You just probably wouldn't want to see her naked...
Yeah i knew she was I use that same comeback :lol:
JJFast 07-22-2007, 01:07 PM :yikes: :cheers:
marko138 07-22-2007, 08:17 PM Sick bastards...OSP and TW.
PiZdETS 07-22-2007, 09:11 PM Dead women don't say no.
OneSickPsycho 07-22-2007, 09:18 PM Dead women don't say no.
Get 'em while they're still warm!!!
pickle.of.doom 07-23-2007, 02:13 PM I dont want to see a full faired Buell streetbike....the naked makes them stand out.
Buell isn't in the market to make marko138 happy :D
The more they offer, the more people they please. They won't drop anything to add more, they will just add more. Why do you think BMW is getting into the sportbike market? The more the merrier!
jalaan1 07-24-2007, 10:57 AM Wow..this is why this site rocks....buell and metric riders hangin out...its all about ridin the pavement...
yup! :twfrox:
KILLBILL 07-24-2007, 01:45 PM I'm not feelin the front fascia
:fmer:
RedRidingHood 07-26-2007, 02:29 PM Im not one for the Buell's or anything "Harley" related at all..however, I think this bike looks bad ass!! My :2cents:
OneSickPsycho 07-27-2007, 01:22 AM Im not one for the Buell's or anything "Harley" related at all..however, I think this bike looks bad ass!! My :2cents:
:wtf:
PiZdETS 07-27-2007, 06:51 AM Uh Oh....a rift has developed.
Will the love connection continue? Can one man's love for naked women overcome his love for naked bikes?
RedRidingHood 07-27-2007, 08:38 AM :wtf:
Welll now..I see there's a difference in taste here...ehh..doesnt matter..I still dig ya ;)
OneSickPsycho 07-27-2007, 11:09 AM Uh Oh....a rift has developed.
Will the love connection continue? Can one man's love for naked women overcome his love for naked bikes?
I'll ravage them both.
Welll now..I see there's a difference in taste here...ehh..doesnt matter..I still dig ya ;)
:dthumb:
RedRidingHood 07-27-2007, 11:31 AM I'll ravage them both.
:dthumb:
~That word...RAVAGE....Mmmmmmmmm (growls) that's :drool: I mean..is it any wonder I don't do the 9-5 thing..especially when reading stuff like this ;)
OneSickPsycho 07-27-2007, 11:48 AM ~That word...RAVAGE....Mmmmmmmmm (growls) that's :drool: I mean..is it any wonder I don't do the 9-5 thing..especially when reading stuff like this ;)
I keep my thesaurus handy for just such reasons. :lol:
RedRidingHood 07-27-2007, 12:14 PM I keep my thesaurus handy for just such reasons. :lol:
:nonod: I feel "dirty" I need a shower..hah.
OneSickPsycho 07-27-2007, 12:16 PM :nonod: I feel "dirty" I need a shower..hah.
:hug: Dirty is good.:dthumb:
RedRidingHood 07-27-2007, 01:28 PM :hug: Dirty is good.:dthumb:
what about clean? :D
Rider 07-27-2007, 01:31 PM This is a Buell thread not a get OSP laid thread. :lol:
RedRidingHood 07-27-2007, 01:36 PM This is a Buell thread not a get OSP laid thread. :lol:
YEA!! hehe..ok so for the record again...I really dig that 1125r! Not a fan of the other Buell's though. My :2cents:
TIGGER 07-27-2007, 05:51 PM Yo baby,he's all the way in "Columbus",I'm much closer here in Michigan!!! BTW OSP I also saw that movie Idiocracy. Dumb,but reminded me of alot of people I know.
OneSickPsycho 07-27-2007, 11:23 PM This is a Buell thread not a get OSP laid thread. :lol:
Whatever... Every thread is a 'get OSP laid thread.' I just pull mad ladies yo!
Yo baby,he's all the way in "Columbus",I'm much closer here in Michigan!!! BTW OSP I also saw that movie Idiocracy. Dumb,but reminded me of alot of people I know.
That movie was terrible, but I couldn't stop watching it... The comparison with how smart and dumb people breed was hilarious!!!
TIGGER 07-28-2007, 02:05 AM Whatever... Every thread is a 'get OSP laid thread.' I just pull mad ladies yo!
From what I hear,that's not ALL you're "pullin'"
That movie was terrible, but I couldn't stop watching it... The comparison with how smart and dumb people breed was hilarious!!!
Word yo,it was like all uhh,umm,you know? and I was all duh,ummm,wha' up? den all ya'll was like na uh,sucka!!! I'man ex-hood rat and that basically sums up most of the people I grew up with and a decent percentage of my family to boot!!!
RedRidingHood 07-28-2007, 07:52 AM Yo baby,he's all the way in "Columbus",I'm much closer here in Michigan!!! BTW OSP I also saw that movie Idiocracy. Dumb,but reminded me of alot of people I know.
Actually..Columbus is only about 2 1/2 hours from me. I'm in Cleveland. Oh and by bike...prob half that time. Your wayyyy in MI. lol
TIGGER 07-28-2007, 11:06 AM Actually..Columbus is only about 2 1/2 hours from me. I'm in Cleveland. Oh and by bike...prob half that time. Your wayyyy in MI. lol
Yea I know,it ws a joke with OSP in regards to this movie we saw. BTW I can afford plane tickets so we'll see who gets there faster. Provided the flight isn't canceled!:cursin:
OneSickPsycho 07-28-2007, 11:17 AM Yea I know,it ws a joke with OSP in regards to this movie we saw. BTW I can afford plane tickets so we'll see who gets there faster. Provided the flight isn't canceled!:cursin:
Flight Delayed!!!
RedRidingHood 07-28-2007, 12:38 PM Yea I know,it ws a joke with OSP in regards to this movie we saw. BTW I can afford plane tickets so we'll see who gets there faster. Provided the flight isn't canceled!:cursin:
Well you got till tomorrow! LOL!
RedRidingHood 07-28-2007, 12:39 PM Flight Delayed!!!
:whistle:
OneSickPsycho 07-28-2007, 12:50 PM :whistle:
FBI: :tt:
Me: whadya mean 'bomb threats'?:whistle:
RedRidingHood 07-28-2007, 12:55 PM FBI: :tt:
Me: whadya mean 'bomb threats'?:whistle:
Hahaha. However, he DOES have a gixxer!!:idk: (Im partial to the Suzukis hun)
You win though...distance, no factor here. Were both goofy, horny Ohioans. ;)
TIGGER 07-28-2007, 08:58 PM HEY!!! You get off the computer long enough to ride your bike for a few hours and BANG you lose out on some hot poonanie! WTF!!!! O well guess I'll have to deal with the 50,000 or so hotties around here!!!:wink:
tallywacker 07-29-2007, 06:48 PM there is a thread for just this kind of retardeness
TIGGER 07-29-2007, 07:45 PM there is a thread for just this kind of retardeness
NO WAY!!!! I didn't know there was a retarded forum!!!:twfrox: Awwww c'mon this thread was dead anyway so who cares? Geez and people are always neg-repping ME for being a spaz!
Speedpup 09-10-2007, 08:13 PM How much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ sorry I didn't read entire thread.
Speedpup 09-10-2007, 08:23 PM How much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ sorry I didn't read entire thread.
I see on Buell.com 12,000 not as much as I thought. Hard to tell how it looks from pictures on site
ne1469 09-10-2007, 08:27 PM For those who havent yet seen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzkRAbfHI6M
Specs: (from the video)
Liquid Cooled 1125cc 72º V-Twin
146 HP, 84 lb-ft torque, 10,500 RPM redline
6 Speed Transmission
Hydraulic Vacuum-Assist Slipper Clutch
ZTL2 Brake System
54.5″ Wheel Base
5.6 Gallons Fuel-in-Frame
http://sporttwin.com/uploads/forums/buell1125r.jpg
http://sporttwin.com/uploads/forums/buell1125r2.jpg
and there should be more pics and info later tonight because buell is officially unvieling it today @ 2pm for its dealer show.
:hawk:
Me likey:drool:
PlayfulGod 09-10-2007, 08:30 PM Me likey:drool:
:iagree:
Anaxagoras1986 09-19-2007, 12:12 PM Still don't understand why the bike still retains the belt drive though.:idk:
Zero maintenance and they claim it is also a few pounds lighter. Buell put a lot of effort into making the bike have a very low maintenance requirement. I like the idea of not having to oil and adjust the chain all the time...
I like the fairing. The wide profile helps to break the wind off of your hands.
Someone was also mentioning something about "air intake on the side". They are the cooling ducts (twin radiator), not intakes for the engine. It is supposed to have a small air intake for the engine below the headlights.
Oh, OSP, The 1125r is pretty much an XB. Just take the nose fairing and big-ole airscoops off and it would look just like an XB, with the obvious needed alterations to put the new motor in.
You can't really just take the airscoops off and make it look like an XB. The 1125R's "air scoopes" are the radiators. You would have 2 rads sticking out of the side of the bike if you took the covers off. That wouldn't look like an XB...
The frame is also bigger and houses an extra gallon (I think it was a gallon, maybe more) of fuel. The exhaust is also completely different and doesn't resemble the XB series. And the engine doesn't even resemble the Thunderstorm engine either and since the XB is naked, the engine is a big part of the appearance. I don't know, I just don't think you can make an 1125r look like an XB. They have similar designs, but no where near "just like". That's just my 2 cents...
GearGrabinGuy 09-19-2007, 03:58 PM I love this pic in the write up!! And I must say Im very impressed Buell is getting its junk together. Im sorry but HD was holding them back. If they really want to get serious they need to bump that HP to the roof.
http://www.cycleworld.com/assets/image/2007/W28/070920071143166996.jpg
The Caption: You’d be smiling, too, if your top sportbike just got a 50-percent boost in horsepower.
tallywacker 09-19-2007, 04:18 PM First one that doesnt look cheap like it wasnt built in tawain:nee
6doublefive321 12-14-2007, 07:07 PM I was all excited when the initial specs and pics leaked, but I just saw more pics and those damn radiator scoops are the ugliest thing I've seen since Tater's whore of an ex wife. Those plus the oversized, goofy looking faring makes this bike a no buy for me. Why oh why won't Buell build a bike that I will buy? Why?
Phenix_Rider 12-14-2007, 07:25 PM I was all excited when the initial specs and pics leaked, but I just saw more pics and those damn radiator scoops are the ugliest thing I've seen since Tater's whore of an ex wife. Those plus the oversized, goofy looking faring makes this bike a no buy for me. Why oh why won't Buell build a bike that I will buy? Why?
:lol: 3 months since the last post.
I'm looking forward to seeing this in person. Hoping it's smoother than the air cooled engines. Those suckers definitely have a second use (for women:wink:)
OneSickPsycho 12-15-2007, 08:16 AM :lol: 3 months since the last post.
I'm looking forward to seeing this in person. Hoping it's smoother than the air cooled engines. Those suckers definitely have a second use (for women:wink:)
Only at, and right off idle... I've never had any issue with vibes once you're moving along...
There's a guy on a Florida forum that I am on who's getting one... Should be picking it up today as a matter of fact... I am trying to convince him to let me ride it.
jalaan1 12-15-2007, 09:26 AM when/if you get to ride it, give us a full report.
interested to here how it is on the streets, already got
Marko's track review.
marko138 12-15-2007, 09:53 AM I was all excited when the initial specs and pics leaked, but I just saw more pics and those damn radiator scoops are the ugliest thing I've seen since Tater's whore of an ex wife. Those plus the oversized, goofy looking faring makes this bike a no buy for me. Why oh why won't Buell build a bike that I will buy? Why?
It's much more appealing in person.
Moto-Madness.com 02-18-2008, 02:23 PM Awesome performing bike but I think the styling is terrible.
6doublefive321 02-18-2008, 04:13 PM It's much more appealing in person.
I'm exactly the opposite. I thought it looked bad in pics, but even worse in person. Maybe its just me, but I can't get over the radiator scoops. They look like they started as aborted Pontiac Trans Am scoops from some concept car.
Anaxagoras1986 02-18-2008, 06:10 PM I also don't care for the side scoops much but overall I like it!
devilduck 08-12-2008, 01:25 AM All I know is that I am getting ready to buy my first new moto, I would prefer to buy USA, and in the sport bike arena that doesn't leave me many options. As an engineer I have never been a fan of the HD engine, I have a hard time swallowing the fact that engine engineering has more to do with "distinctive sound" than the physics of the matter, and now that it is gone, my first new bike is a Buell 1125R.
SVRider 01-02-2009, 01:15 PM i own one... it pretty much rocks.
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