dalejr_802 10-11-2007, 12:30 AM whats up with ducattis how come i never see people talking about ducattis
this might sound supid
is ducatti the porches of motorcycle
are they good
how come i barely see people riding on ducatti
is there any 600cc ducatti with the 999 style
PlayfulGod 10-11-2007, 12:37 AM whats up with ducattis how come i never see people talking about ducattis
this might sound supid
is ducatti the porches of motorcycle
are they good
how come i barely see people riding on ducatti
is there any 600cc ducatti with the 999 style
you wont see alot of duc's they aint cheap :lol:
http://ducati.com
dalejr_802 10-11-2007, 12:51 AM ok thats the reason....but are they the porche of motorcycle or they are just like the japanese motorcycle just more expensive
PlayfulGod 10-11-2007, 12:54 AM ok thats the reason....but are they the porche of motorcycle or they are just like the japanese motorcycle just more expensive
more like the ferrari. they come with all the good ****. but they aint alone
dnyce 10-11-2007, 12:54 AM one t.
dalejr_802 10-11-2007, 01:02 AM well i just visited their website and they dont have a 600cc sport bike...they have naked but not my type
dalejr_802 10-11-2007, 01:07 AM beside the japanese moto is there any good bike im currently looking for a 600cc bike
King Bob 10-11-2007, 05:52 AM jap is about the only way you'll get a 600cc. Ducati is about equal to the jap bikes, just they come with a lot nicer stuff from the factory for race readiness.
Rider 10-11-2007, 07:48 AM Ducs are very nice bikes. A little more money than jap bikes but they are worth every penny.
z06boy 10-11-2007, 07:51 AM You could get a Triumph 675 if you like middleweight sportbikes that aren't from Japan.
Back _Marker 10-11-2007, 10:23 AM ok thats the reason....but are they the porche of motorcycle or they are just like the japanese motorcycle just more expensive
eh? italian bikes are italian bikes... need one say any more?
they use pricey parts...
-a|ex
chris_491 10-11-2007, 10:31 AM You could get a Triumph 675 if you like middleweight sportbikes that aren't from Japan.
I agree! The 675 is one of my personal favorites!!!! It has a very similiar look to the ducati 1098. If you are not a seasoned racer i doubt you would be able to tell a difference in components. Aside from the v twin roar to the nice high tune of a 3 cyclinder.
smileyman 10-11-2007, 10:34 AM Expensive. Thus not everyone can afford one or have experience owning one.
Even if you pony up and make the purchase they have expensive maintenance requirements which can really add up and I think that limits how many miles the actual owners do put on them.
I have a friend who has owned 3 Ducatis (2- 900ss and 1- 750SS) and he really likes them. He raced one and currently has one for the street. He also rode it from where he bought it in North Carolina home to SW Arkansas!
Like a fine wine they are kind of an aquired taste.
ceo012384 10-11-2007, 10:36 AM Expensive. Thus not everyone can afford one or have experience owning one.
Even if you pony up and make the purchase they have expensive maintenance requirements which can really add up and I think that limits how many miles the actual owners do put on them.
I agree... unless you can learn to do the services yourself, it can get pretty pricey.
Because they have desmodromic valves, they require valve adjustments much more regularly than conventionally valved bikes...
SVRider 10-11-2007, 10:39 AM whats up with ducattis how come i never see people talking about ducattis
this might sound supid
is ducatti the porches of motorcycle
are they good
how come i barely see people riding on ducatti
is there any 600cc ducatti with the 999 style
You answered your own question...
Ducati is the "porche" of motorcycles
So, compare your ducati vs. Suzuki/Kawi/Yam/Honda the same way you compare Mustangs/Civics/etc to Porsche's.
ceo012384 10-11-2007, 10:42 AM Ducati is the "porche" of motorcycles
So, compare your ducati vs. Suzuki/Kawi/Yam/Honda the same way you compare Mustangs/Civics/etc to Porche's.
You corrected his spelling with an incorrect spelling of porsche....
trock 10-11-2007, 10:43 AM You answered your own question...
Ducati is the "porche" of motorcycles
So, compare your ducati vs. Suzuki/Kawi/Yam/Honda the same way you compare Mustangs/Civics/etc to Porche's.
:withstupi You don't hear us talking about porsches either much huh? :lol:
SVRider 10-11-2007, 10:44 AM You corrected his spelling with an incorrect spelling of porsche....
wasn't trying to correct anyones spelling... and i have no idea how to spell porsche... i just copy how others spelled it :lol:
smileyman 10-11-2007, 10:44 AM Man I knew this guy with a hell of a trick screened in porch! He had the grill and tiki torches chromed out!:slol:
ceo012384 10-11-2007, 10:46 AM I agree... unless you can learn to do the services yourself, it can get pretty pricey.
Because they have desmodromic valves, they require valve adjustments much more regularly than conventionally valved bikes...
BTW for those of you who don't know about the valving system ducatis use, it's kinda neat... check out the wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmodromic_valve
wasn't trying to correct anyones spelling... and i have no idea how to spell porsche... i just copy how others spelled it :lol:
Fair enough :lol:
PlayfulGod 10-11-2007, 11:19 AM Ducatis are more like the Ferrari's of motorcycle world not a glorified VW :lol:
Ducatis are more like the Ferrari's of motorcycle world not a glorified VW :lol:
Not even close, Ducatis aren't that rare and aren't that expensive for some models.
impala balko 10-11-2007, 11:30 AM whats up with ducattis how come i never see people talking about ducattis
this might sound supid
is ducatti the porches of motorcycle
are they good
how come i barely see people riding on ducatti
is there any 600cc ducatti with the 999 style
Ducati Super Sports (996,998,999, and 1098) are great bikes powerful (really torquey), great handling but they are pricy and expensive to have worked on... I love the way they sound but from what I hear they are so stiff and rigid that they litterally beat you up.... I rode with a guy who has a 996 with straight pipes... the bike sound nice and loud but he said that he cant ride it for long streaches because it gets chitty gas mileage and it beats you up... But the reason why you dont see too many of them is because the price to buy and own and the fact that you can buy a jap bike for less that is actually a faster bike and is cheaper to maintain and do work on.
I have heard Ducatis refered to as the Ferarri of sport bikes.
PlayfulGod 10-11-2007, 11:30 AM Not even close, Ducatis aren't that rare and aren't that expensive for some models.
neither are porsches :lol:
impala balko 10-11-2007, 11:33 AM neither are porsches :lol:
some ferarris arent all that rare either.
No Worries 10-11-2007, 11:36 AM Except for the newest Ducati's, don't forget the dry clutches. There is even a t-shirt: "Dry Clutches Save Lives." Also, don't forget Ducati's 748 and 749.
impala balko 10-11-2007, 12:10 PM yeah the dry clutch sounds like a rattle box.
smileyman 10-11-2007, 12:49 PM I am proud to see that they are getting away from the dry clutch thing for all their street bikes. I am a closet fan of their nostalgic sp1000. The Paul Smart replica was cool but the new Black and Gold Special Edition is awesome!!!
smileyman 10-11-2007, 12:51 PM Here ya go
http://www.ducati.com/od/ducatinorthamerica/en/galleries/img/img7,486_20,861.jpg
http://www.ducati.com/od/ducatinorthamerica/en/galleries/img/img7,486_20,862.jpg
trock 10-11-2007, 12:58 PM The thing is that almost everybody knows what a Ducati is. Not near as many people know about bikes like Benelli, Aprilia, etc. Those are the top bikes as far as I am concerned.
byron12 10-11-2007, 01:01 PM You could get a Triumph 675 if you like middleweight sportbikes that aren't from Japan.
:iagree:
Ducatis are more like the Ferrari's of motorcycle world not a glorified VW :lol:
:iagree: somewhat
Not even close, Ducatis aren't that rare and aren't that expensive for some models.
The mv agusta line is more considered the ferrari of motorcycles.
I am proud to see that they are getting away from the dry clutch thing for all their street bikes. I am a closet fan of their nostalgic sp1000. The Paul Smart replica was cool but the new Black and Gold Special Edition is awesome!!!
:withstupi I want one bad. Ducati is an awesome brand but cost of ownership is prohibitive and you can get similar if not better perfomance with a jap bike. If you have a ducati though people will be impressed similar to ownig an exotic car.
The thing is that almost everybody knows what a Ducati is. Not near as many people know about bikes like Benelli, Aprilia, etc. Those are the top bikes as far as I am concerned.
Exactly, I have regularly seen 16 year old kids on ducatis. Most Ducatis aren't really that special, it's just italian.
trock 10-11-2007, 01:21 PM I'm sure not sayin I wouldn't take one, but for the money you could get something cooler.
Eyeque 10-11-2007, 01:33 PM I had a Duc 749...it wasn't my favorite Italian bike that I've ever owned. My Aprilia is by far a better motor, better brakes, more comfortable seating position....blah, blah, blah! If I was going to buy another Italian bike, I would get a MV Agusta Brutale 910R or an MV SPR1000. Thankfully, I'm pretty content with my Brit bikes for the moment :)
z06boy 10-11-2007, 02:16 PM The mv agusta line is more considered the ferrari of motorcycles.
More so than Ducati for sure.:iagree:
fnfalman 10-11-2007, 08:42 PM Since that Ducatis are running V-twin engines, the equivalence of the Japanese 600 supersports is the 749 (soon to be 848, I believe). V-twin engines always have larger displacement in comparison to an equivalent inline four bike.
Sure, some Ducatis are not too expensive but if you were to compare them to the Japanese equivalents then they are quite a bit more expensive. Let's say, compare an SV650 to a Monster 690 for example.
I don't do Duck because none of the bikes in the lineup truly appeal to me, but otherwise they're pretty decent products and they sure are easy on the eyes. As far as the cost of ownership...like the old saying goes, if you can afford to buy it, you can afford to ride it. Unless you're a poseur who shells out the money for a bike that looks pretty with an impressive name then ride ten miles to a local bike night once a month because you can't afford to do anything else.
sfarson 10-11-2007, 10:21 PM Originally Posted by byron12
The mv agusta line is more considered the ferrari of motorcycles.
More so than Ducati for sure.
Yeah, most would note the MV is the Ferrari of bikes, Ducati the Porsche. Ferrari even consulted with MV on the radial valves of the engine.
Other random responses...
- Valve checks/adjustments can be pricey... if required. Typically at 6K or 12K they might need adjustment, but often stay in spec following.
- Later model dry clutches have been muffled well, though some purists regret this.
- More than a few buy the bike for the deep booming exhaust note. Thousands of BIKE (U.K.) magazine readers voted the Ducati exhaust note the finest in the world.
- Ducati's do tend to cost more. Dealerships are not as plentiful as those of Asian makes. Combined, one sees fewer of them.
- Emotion tends to be a factor when buying the Bologna bike. This is OK. Bikes are a discretionary purchase. If there is no emotion for Ducati, certainly look elsewhere.
dalejr_802 10-12-2007, 01:22 AM how about the daytona triumph 675 what do you guys think of them and are do they have the same maintenance cost like the ducati's
Gas Man 10-12-2007, 03:41 AM eh? italian bikes are italian bikes... need one say any more?
they use pricey parts...
-a|ex
My POV exactly. If I got another sportbike Duc would be at the top or near the top of the list.
Except for the newest Ducati's, don't forget the dry clutches. There is even a t-shirt: "Dry Clutches Save Lives." Also, don't forget Ducati's 748 and 749.
yeah the dry clutch sounds like a rattle box.
I love these 2 comments. Not all dry clutches rattle either... I know cause when the dog rolls out next spring it will have a dry clutch along with a few other goodies I have in the works...:whistle:
z06boy 10-12-2007, 08:00 AM how about the daytona triumph 675 what do you guys think of them and are do they have the same maintenance cost like the ducati's
I suggested this bike in post #10 here and the bike gets good reviews. I don't know about their maintenance but I would imagine cheaper than a Duc to maintain but maybe more than the Japanese middleweights.
Eyeque 10-12-2007, 09:34 AM I suggested this bike in post #10 here and the bike gets good reviews. I don't know about their maintenance but I would imagine cheaper than a Duc to maintain but maybe more than the Japanese middleweights.
I have a 2006 Daytona 675. It's as cheap to maintain as a Honda. I've got 5K on mine now with no problems at all and I've just done the regular maintenance like change tires/oil/filters. It's actually really fun to ride and quite fast. I normally ride a RSV Mille or a Speed Triple and my wife rides the 675. She has no problems keeping up with the liter bikes.
z06boy 10-12-2007, 10:07 AM I have a 2006 Daytona 675. It's as cheap to maintain as a Honda. I've got 5K on mine now with no problems at all and I've just done the regular maintenance like change tires/oil/filters. It's actually really fun to ride and quite fast. I normally ride a RSV Mille or a Speed Triple and my wife rides the 675. She has no problems keeping up with the liter bikes.
Cool...I've only heard good things about this bike. :cheers:
Scissors 10-17-2007, 06:10 AM ok thats the reason....but are they the porche of motorcycle or they are just like the japanese motorcycle just more expensive
They're more like the Ferrari of motorcycles.
I think of MV Agusta as being more of the Lamborghini of sport bikes. Aprilia, too.
impala balko 10-18-2007, 12:54 PM I lust over the 1098 :drool:.... sorry just felt I should share that info
ELTGuy 10-29-2007, 11:35 PM Ducks have a mystique to them. As others have posted:
Not many Dealers, so unless you are in a large market for them, you most likely won't see one.
Ducati uses the Desmodromic Valve Actuation System. At a time, it was essential for a high performance motor. With recent advances in manufacturing and materials development, a traditional spring/cam follower design could achieve the same high engine speeds with reliability. Why stay with Desmo valves and the extra maintenance they require? Because Ducati can and it's practically a calling card for them. The maintenance isn't too difficult, but you have to know what you are doing with a Desmo architecture. That's where the high maintenance cost shows up, the Ducati mechanic.
There are bikes that cost less and will perform as well.
There are bikes that owners do not have to consider maintenance costs when making their purchase.
There is the howl of a Ducati and for enough, that outweighs the above complaints. Plus... the bikes look like fine art to me. I'd love to have one. I'd probably never use it to its full performance potential, but I would look good riding it. :cheers:
Untill then, I'll slug gears on the Yamaha Seca-II
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