Scientists find an HIV cure

King Bob
10-25-2007, 12:16 PM
This isnt just some joke, at least I honestly pray it isnt. the scientists at the University of Copenhagen have found a way to treat and cure the HIV virus, not AIDS, but HIV. it isnt perfect, but its a damn good start for those who have this terrible illness. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071020103343.htm

Rider
10-25-2007, 12:21 PM
Wow, thats pretty amazing. :cheers:

MidwesterneRR
10-25-2007, 12:29 PM
doesnt sound like a cure, they have to stay on the treatment

tormigroin
10-25-2007, 12:30 PM
beats the hell outta the alternative. . . amirite?!

Trip
10-25-2007, 12:32 PM
Hurray for loose morals winning.

Rae
10-25-2007, 12:39 PM
oh Trip, how can you say that?? It's not all about loose morals winning! Maybe when HIV and AIDS first came out that was a factor, but now you have people who are born with it, people who got it from contact by other bodily fluids, etc etc...many of those who had these so called "loose morals" are already dead from their bad decisions anyway...does it still go on, yeah, but dont condemn everyone as a bad egg...

dubbs
10-25-2007, 12:44 PM
Hurray for loose morals winning. What about ppl who get it from a dirty needle when the hospital draws blood?

Rider
10-25-2007, 12:48 PM
What about ppl who get it from a dirty needle when the hospital draws blood? Umm what hospital do you go to? :wbs: Hospitals dont use dirty needles.

King Bob
10-25-2007, 12:48 PM
Either way, I still think this is a WAY Better alternative than dying from the disease. If I had HIV, I'd definately go for this, just because it would give new hope. At least its a great beginning to curing the disease, and allowing many to survive happily. might not be a 100% cure, but it definately means we're on our way to one. I dont think loose morals play into things you cant anticipate, and that are beyond our control, like your child being born with HIV, or a partner who didnt tell you or worse, doesnt know themselves.

R1HOOLIGAN
10-25-2007, 12:48 PM
Children born infected and partners/spouses getting infected by their unfaithful other half are the greatest tragedies:nonod: .....more of that than people realize.

TaintedLove
10-25-2007, 12:48 PM
oh Trip, how can you say that?? It's not all about loose morals winning! Maybe when HIV and AIDS first came out that was a factor, but now you have people who are born with it, people who got it from contact by other bodily fluids, etc etc...many of those who had these so called "loose morals" are already dead from their bad decisions anyway...does it still go on, yeah, but dont condemn everyone as a bad egg... I agree Rae. Children have no choice when they are born with hiv. Look its been a good 25 years since HIV became so widely known. For alot of people it is one bad decision that ruins a life. It could happen to anyone. You never know. Some people have HIV and do not know for years. Best thing people can do is be safe but nothing is 100%

R1HOOLIGAN
10-25-2007, 01:00 PM
I've always felt that if someone knows they are infected and does not tell their sex partner, it should be treated the same as 1st degree murder if the unwitting partner becomes infected.....or at least 1st degree attempted murder.

Rider
10-25-2007, 01:01 PM
I've always felt that if someone knows they are infected and does not tell their sex partner, it should be treated the same as 1st degree murder if the unwitting partner becomes infected.....or at least 1st degree attempted murder. I belive there have been cases where they were tried that way.

Trip
10-25-2007, 01:02 PM
What about ppl who get it from a dirty needle when the hospital draws blood? civilian casualties

R1HOOLIGAN
10-25-2007, 01:18 PM
civilian casualties No, it's called "Owning the hospital". Hospitals don't use dirty needles...you just get fatal staph infections, and maybe have the wrong limb amputated. But, they don't use dirty needles. Ain't that comforting???

PiZdETS
10-25-2007, 01:35 PM
Hurray for loose morals winning. Hooray for wildly ignorant and simplistic summations of globally complex public health tragedies. Umm what hospital do you go to? :wbs: Hospitals dont use dirty needles. Dirty needles and tainted blood supplies has been an issue in developing countries for decades as many people in china and africa for example, don't understand the need for absolute caution when dealing with blood instruments. civilian casualties The tone of someone who's never had a friend die from aids. Get a clue dude. It's not all a big black and white moral issue. Take the time to read up on the effects the virus has had on countries other than your own, as wild an idea as that may be. It's not all gays that have it and it can't all be blamed on them anymore, in this country or anywhere else. This is why they keep politics off this forum.

Back _Marker
10-25-2007, 01:45 PM
Hurray for loose morals winning. i agree... premarital sex is bad, bad, bad.... http://www.bible.ca/oral-birth-control-NO.gif http://www.hovberg.se/resmi/sperrbezirk.jpg -a|ex yeah, raight...

Trip
10-25-2007, 01:49 PM
Hooray for wildly ignorant and simplistic summations of globally complex public health tragedies. The tone of someone who's never had a friend die from aids. Get a clue dude. It's not all a big black and white moral issue. Take the time to read up on the effects the virus has had on countries other than your own, as wild an idea as that may be. It's not all gays that have it and it can't all be blamed on them anymore, in this country or anywhere else. This is why they keep politics off this forum. Ha ha you are funny. Why they keep politics off this forum is because of people like you. Who take things too seriously and go overboard. Joke, man, joke. I can't believe people still take me serious. After 9000 posts, you think they would learn.

Trip
10-25-2007, 01:50 PM
i agree... premarital sex is bad, bad, bad.... http://www.bible.ca/oral-birth-control-NO.gif http://www.hovberg.se/resmi/sperrbezirk.jpg -a|ex yeah, raight... At least someone knows not to take me serious. :cheers:

OneSickPsycho
10-25-2007, 01:50 PM
I've always felt that if someone knows they are infected and does not tell their sex partner, it should be treated the same as 1st degree murder if the unwitting partner becomes infected.....or at least 1st degree attempted murder. Slippery slope there...

King Bob
10-25-2007, 01:52 PM
In prevention, sexually, there is only TWO things that can 100% guarantee you dont get any disease. first being to abstain completely, second being your hand. both are highly effective. they just get boring after awhile. losing a close friend to any illness is a VERY hard thing on anyone.

R1HOOLIGAN
10-25-2007, 01:55 PM
Slippery slope there... How true. Proving they knew it would be tough with the HIPPA law.

OneSickPsycho
10-25-2007, 02:04 PM
How true. Proving they knew it would be tough with the HIPPA law. Not to mention it would open the door to criminal and civil lawsuits for transmitting other diseases... The flu kills many people each year...

ceo012384
10-25-2007, 02:09 PM
I've always felt that if someone knows they are infected and does not tell their sex partner, it should be treated the same as 1st degree murder if the unwitting partner becomes infected.....or at least 1st degree attempted murder. :iagree: civilian casualties If I didn't know you were joking, I'd say you were an a$$hole. But you're an a$$hole regardless. There, I said it. :lol: Hooray for wildly ignorant and simplistic summations of globally complex public health tragedies. Dirty needles and tainted blood supplies has been an issue in developing countries for decades as many people in china and africa for example, don't understand the need for absolute caution when dealing with blood instruments. The tone of someone who's never had a friend die from aids. Get a clue dude. It's not all a big black and white moral issue. Take the time to read up on the effects the virus has had on countries other than your own, as wild an idea as that may be. It's not all gays that have it and it can't all be blamed on them anymore, in this country or anywhere else. This is why they keep politics off this forum. Piz and I are always on the same page. It kinda freaks me out, actually. Ha ha you are funny. Why they keep politics off this forum is because of people like you. Who take things too seriously and go overboard. Joke, man, joke. I can't believe people still take me serious. After 9000 posts, you think they would learn. We should have smilies for jokes, sarcasm, etc so that posts are never misinterpreted :idk:

VatorMan
10-25-2007, 02:13 PM
Not to mention it would open the door to criminal and civil lawsuits for transmitting other diseases... The flu kills many people each year... I think I'll sue you for your sick sense of humor.:nee

Trip
10-25-2007, 02:13 PM
If I didn't know you were joking, I'd say you were an a$$hole. But you're an a$$hole regardless. There, I said it. :lol: We should have smilies for jokes, sarcasm, etc so that posts are never misinterpreted :idk: :slol: I would go into smiley overuse like some others if we did that, I couldn't stand to use em as much as I would need to if we did it that way.

OneSickPsycho
10-25-2007, 02:15 PM
We should have smilies for jokes, sarcasm, etc so that posts are never misinterpreted :idk: Where's the fun in that? I've often let my sarcastic remarks go unclarified for the sake that everyone think's I am more of a prick than I really am... Of course, people just don't even bat an eye when I say some extreme chit...

Trip
10-25-2007, 02:21 PM
too far OSP :barf:

OneSickPsycho
10-25-2007, 02:45 PM
too far OSP :barf: Huh? I don't get it. :scratch:

Trip
10-25-2007, 02:53 PM
Huh? I don't get it. :scratch: the post that went bye bye

OneSickPsycho
10-25-2007, 03:06 PM
the post that went bye bye PM me what I posted... I really don't remember posting anything bad... in this thread.

ceo012384
10-25-2007, 04:23 PM
I would go into smiley overuse like some others Why do I have the feeling you are referring to PG? :lol:

Trip
10-25-2007, 04:43 PM
:lol: :slol: :motz: :whistle: :jacked: :idk: :readng:

Scissors
10-25-2007, 05:20 PM
It's a treatment, not a cure. But hey, if you're a white person you stand a 1% chance of being outright immunge to HIV. So here's to being one in a hundred. :lol:

Rider
10-25-2007, 05:22 PM
It's a treatment, not a cure. But hey, if you're a white person you stand a 1% chance of being outright immunge to HIV. So here's to being one in a hundred. :lol: What? Really? :idk: HIV was a little prejudice.

Trip
10-25-2007, 05:22 PM
It's a treatment, not a cure. But hey, if you're a white person you stand a 1% chance of being outright immunge to HIV. So here's to being one in a hundred. Where can I get checked for this, I want to test this immunity with my loose morals. :cheers:

Scissors
10-25-2007, 05:23 PM
What? Really? :idk: HIV was a little prejudice. Other races have individuals who are also immune, but the percent of those races is lower.

Scissors
10-25-2007, 05:24 PM
Actually, I should modify my original statement. They were immune. But now that there are more strains, they are actually just highly resistant.

OneSickPsycho
10-25-2007, 05:34 PM
Majic Johnson cured HIV didn't he?

ceo012384
10-25-2007, 08:02 PM
if you're a white person you stand a 1% chance of being outright immunge to HIV so THAT'S how OSP is still alive...

PlayfulGod
10-25-2007, 08:04 PM
I thought they had been a crue for years? aka shotgun???

TaintedLove
10-25-2007, 08:06 PM
I thought they had been a crue for years? aka shotgun??? :nonod: Anyone here actually know someone who has died from AIDS? It's a horrible way to die. I lost a friend about 9 years ago.

PlayfulGod
10-25-2007, 08:08 PM
:nonod: Anyone here actually know someone who has died from AIDS? It's a horrible way to die. I lost a friend about 9 years ago. were they straight or????????????

TaintedLove
10-25-2007, 08:11 PM
were they straight or???????????? Thats a horrible question yanno? And NO http://www.avert.org/media/images/USASumMenWomenGraph.gif

PlayfulGod
10-25-2007, 08:14 PM
Thats a horrible question yanno? And NO http://www.avert.org/media/images/USASumMenWomenGraph.gif ok male or female then? I'm sorry if people are putting things where god never intended them be put I have no sympathy. If a person contracts it through a blood transfusion etc then thats different.

TaintedLove
10-25-2007, 08:23 PM
ok male or female then? I'm sorry if people are putting things where god never intended them be put I have no sympathy. If a person contracts it through a blood transfusion etc then thats different. You listen well because I told you about Dusty Before. He was a guy who got stabbed with a dirty needle. I am not gonna go into the whole story here. And AIDS isn't a gay disease remember that. You never know who YOU sleep with or if they have been HONEST with you about were they have been.

marko138
10-25-2007, 10:02 PM
They should find a cure...after all...the government invented it.

TIGGER
10-25-2007, 10:24 PM
It's cool if they have a treatment and as far as putting something where "God" never intended,well I do that all the time,just not with men. :redevil: Besides if "God" didn't want me to put it there he shouldn't have made it so much FUN!:redevil: It's too bad that people have to suffer but to me it falls in with people who smoke or drink and then want you to feel sorry for them for their cancer or liver disease. When you know that an action is "bad" for you and you keep doing it,it's really hard for me to shed alot of tears for you. Sure I know some percentage of people got it thru no fault of their own and for them I'm sorry...to all others including me,reap what you sow!

Atlantasmittie84
10-26-2007, 12:15 AM
Umm what hospital do you go to? :wbs: Hospitals dont use dirty needles. Yeah. Hospitals are pretty freaking clean. When I was in it for 6days they kept good care of my room and I always saw them throw it away. As for "Loose Morals". Years ago people got them from Blood Tranfusions (And sometimes still do). And through heterosexual vaginal sex even without protection it is still suppose to be hard to get. Normally it takes Anal with no protection. But yes is still possible. But contracting it without having sex or sharing needles is pretty freaking rare. Someone would have to spit blood in your mouth and your mouth to just happen to have an open sore in it.

jetskifast
10-26-2007, 02:04 AM
Umm what hospital do you go to? :wbs: Hospitals dont use dirty needles. Wife had nurse friend few years ago die of Aids, accidently stuck by needle years before. Every year thousands of medical personnel accidently get stuck by needles. If I have my blood drawn, I make sure new needle is used. Few years ago big news was made in Bay Area when lazy phlebotomist was cought not using new needles. Thousands of people had to get aids tests. Just like any job, you have people who take short cuts:cursin:

Scissors
10-26-2007, 06:51 AM
As for "Loose Morals". Years ago people got them from Blood Tranfusions (And sometimes still do). And through heterosexual vaginal sex even without protection it is still suppose to be hard to get. Normally it takes Anal with no protection. But yes is still possible. It has more to do with who the receiver is than which orifice is used. While it is unlikely for a man to get HIV through unprotected vaginal sex, it is far more likely that the woman will. The same goes for anal--the "pitcher" is relatively safe, whereas the "catcher" is at great risk.

VatorMan
10-26-2007, 07:49 AM
They should find a cure...after all...the government invented it. And here I thought it was some guy in Africa screwing a monkey.

ceo012384
10-26-2007, 11:31 AM
And here I thought it was some guy in Africa screwing a monkey. :lol:

OneSickPsycho
10-26-2007, 12:47 PM
so THAT'S how OSP is still alive... :yup: And here I thought it was some guy in Africa screwing a monkey. I thought all of the evidence of that had been destroyed... I gotta re-check my photobucket...

pickle.of.doom
10-26-2007, 01:04 PM
Yeah, its easy to act like a cold mf'er when you are hiding behind a screen name on an internet forum... but wait until it is you or someone you know, We will see how much of an asshol3 you want to be then. There are lots of people that laugh at guys who die riding a bike too fast on the road too... or say they deserve it... and I hope those mf'ers burn in hell for crap like that, so I guess that means I hope you cold bastards burn too.

OneSickPsycho
10-26-2007, 01:14 PM
Yeah, its easy to act like a cold mf'er when you are hiding behind a screen name on an internet forum... but wait until it is you or someone you know, We will see how much of an asshol3 you want to be then. There are lots of people that laugh at guys who die riding a bike too fast on the road too... or say they deserve it... and I hope those mf'ers burn in hell for crap like that, so I guess that means I hope you cold bastards burn too. I am a cold bastard. I laugh at death... It's my way of coping with it.

R1HOOLIGAN
10-26-2007, 01:20 PM
The only people who deserve to die are those who intentionally cause harm or death to an innocent human being. My father, God rest his soul, killed several Nazi soldiers face to face. He was always haunted by the face of the 15 year old Hitler youth that fired at him first with a machine gun. Said he puked for 3 days after that. He always said that killing, even when necessary, ain't no damn "fun". It was simply self preservation and protection of his troops...no more, no less. Even when killing those that "deserve it", you hurt inside, or you have no conscience. He was captured by the SS and sent to San Bostel Concentration camp, where he witnessed the slaughter of 12,000 jewish women & children. After listening to his experiences, I've never wished death on anyone simply because I was pissed at them or didn't agree with their lifestyle.

ceo012384
10-26-2007, 02:44 PM
There are lots of people that laugh at guys who die riding a bike too fast on the road too... or say they deserve it... and I hope those mf'ers burn in hell for crap like that, so I guess that means I hope you cold bastards burn too. If someone is a complete moron and doing something retarded (like stunting on the highway on a busa at 120 in shorts and a tshirt) and they die, I have NO sympathy and don't feel bad for them at all. It's their own fault. I will laugh at them because they were stupid. If I ever did something that stupid, I would be fine with people laughing at me because I would deserve it. I guess I am a motherf&*ker who should burn in hell :idk: If someone is sitting at a stop sign and ms. cell phone rear ends them and kills them, then RIP for sure :angelhap:

kbubp
10-26-2007, 03:08 PM
oh Trip, how can you say that?? It's not all about loose morals winning! Maybe when HIV and AIDS first came out that was a factor, but now you have people who are born with it, people who got it from contact by other bodily fluids, etc etc...many of those who had these so called "loose morals" are already dead from their bad decisions anyway...does it still go on, yeah, but dont condemn everyone as a bad egg... Perhaps they are "bearing the sins of the father." I've always heard that "AIDS cures fags" and when I saw this thread, I assumed it had finally "worked itself out." DANG!

kbubp
10-26-2007, 03:10 PM
Thats a horrible question yanno? And NO http://www.avert.org/media/images/USASumMenWomenGraph.gif Sweet, so all men that have it either inject drugs or are fags. Let 'em die then. I'm sure the women who contracted it from men are men who inject drugs, or have sex with other men. Women should do a background check.

pickle.of.doom
10-26-2007, 03:14 PM
Nice attitude ya got there. Could you be any more of a backwoods redneck?

kbubp
10-26-2007, 03:15 PM
Nice attitude ya got there. Could you be any more of a backwoods redneck? I don't know, but I will try, just for you.

TaintedLove
10-26-2007, 03:21 PM
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” Martin Luther King Jr.

byron12
10-26-2007, 03:48 PM
No need to worry I am sure all the aids as cure for immoral behavior types have their own immoral secrets. In before the lock....

smileyman
10-26-2007, 03:57 PM
HIV is scary. So is Staph. Unlikely statistically for me, but still a terrible thing that could happen. I have a better chance of being eaten by a shark or more likley getting run over by a cell phone driver. But I would still rather go that way than too waste away in front of my family...

TIGGER
10-27-2007, 10:32 PM
HIV is scary. So is Staph. Unlikely statistically for me, but still a terrible thing that could happen. I have a better chance of being eaten by a shark or more likley getting run over by a cell phone driver. But I would still rather go that way than too waste away in front of my family... Yea,I don't want to die from aids so I don't do the things that will bring that upon me. It's possible I could get it anyway but quite unlikely based on my lifestyle and the precautions I take. It's kinda like watching jackass. They're riding a shopping cart down a hilly street and they crash,do you feel sorry for them?

ceo012384
10-28-2007, 03:02 PM
Yea,I don't want to die from aids so I don't do the things that will bring that upon me. It's possible I could get it anyway but quite unlikely based on my lifestyle and the precautions I take. It's kinda like watching jackass. They're riding a shopping cart down a hilly street and they crash,do you feel sorry for them? Nope, I just laugh.

kbubp
10-28-2007, 03:42 PM
Nope, I just laugh. I wish you would share needles.

ceo012384
10-28-2007, 03:45 PM
I wish you would share needles. Because I laugh at the TV show jackass?

pickle.of.doom
10-28-2007, 04:12 PM
Yes you bastard... how dare you laugh at funy stuff!

kbubp
10-28-2007, 05:57 PM
Because I laugh at the TV show jackass? I just wanted to say it.

ceo012384
10-28-2007, 09:28 PM
I just wanted to say it. :lol: fair enough. In that case, your mom should have swallowed you when she had the chance.

kbubp
10-28-2007, 09:30 PM
:lol: fair enough. In that case, your mom should have swallowed you when she had the chance. Alright Carlos Mencia, that lame ****ing wetback piece of ****. I hate him, and I hate anyone who quotes him, so **** you.

ceo012384
10-28-2007, 09:33 PM
Alright Carlos Mencia, that lame ****ing wetback piece of ****. I hate him, and I hate anyone who quotes him, so **** you. I didn't know he said that. I hate him too. I heard a friend say it. I'll never say it again. Carlos sucks.

pickle.of.doom
10-28-2007, 09:54 PM
Edited. I'm sorry Kbub, I felt bad after posting that. Racist crap just pisses me off, the stupid crap makes me say stupid crap back, and I don't think thats how you meant that. :cheers:

Back _Marker
10-28-2007, 11:56 PM
this thread is fubar... for one, HIV is not a gay disease. one only needs to look at africa (http://www.avert.org/aids-africa-questions-1.htm#q2): How serious a problem is AIDS in Africa? The numbers are staggering. At the end of 2006 there were an estimated 24.7 million people living with HIV in sub-Saharan Africa (the part below the Sahara desert), and 460,000 in North Africa and the Middle East. AIDS is now the leading cause of death in sub-Saharan Africa – killing an estimated 2.1 million people in 2006 alone. In the same year another 2.8 million became infected with HIV please don't tell me that most africans are gay. gay bashing is unkewl. it borders racism. morality changes with progress and fashion, we've come a long ways since the early 1900's -a|ex

PlayfulGod
10-28-2007, 11:59 PM
dang monkeys will hump anything.

Back _Marker
10-29-2007, 12:12 AM
dang monkeys will hump anything. bad karma bro... -a|ex

kbubp
10-29-2007, 09:21 AM
gay bashing is unkewl. it borders racism. -a|ex Yeah, exactly the same thing! :skep:

smileyman
10-29-2007, 11:02 AM
You guys shouldn't go near the see-thru body work thread!:nonod: