Premiere Weekend for Ducati 848

http://www.ducati.com/od/ducatinorthamerica/events/detail.jhtml;jsessionid=REESO5UYS41M4CRNCB3CFFQKFUIHSIV2?eventId=19021 :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: X 1 million

Dayum ! That baby only weighs 369 pounds !! http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o154/Warputer/icon_liebhab.png

I dont know if you watched the video...but that guy is HAULING ASS on that bike. Grinding pegs in almost every corner. :nana:

I dont know if you watched the video...but that guy is HAULING ASS on that bike. Grinding pegs in almost every corner. :nana: http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o154/Warputer/1022.gifFactory riders make it look easy .

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o154/Warputer/1022.gifFactory riders make it look easy . No doubt.

Says one of the riders in the video is Ruben Xaus. He might be quick...I think I heard somewhere. I still think I can take him!:wink:

Daum! I want it!! I just know i cant afford the maintanance! and theres no duc shop within an hour n a half of me! Plus it would make me cry to wreck all that money! How much more ya think it is for up keep than a gixxer????

I found the bike that might be able to replace the RR :drool:

I found the bike that might be able to replace the RR :drool: :dthumb:

Eh. It's no Harley.

Better power to weight than the 999...sounds like it would be an awesome machine to have.

The hottness. I found the bike that might be able to replace the RR :drool: Already thinking about a replacement? :lol:

thats a nice bike, but I dont want it, just too much bike and too high profile.

thats a nice bike, but I dont want it, just too much bike and too high profile. Not enough bike. 1098 FTW!

Not enough bike. 1098 FTW! F that, 1098R 200Hp with the termi's on it. :leaving:

F that, 1098R 200Hp with the termi's on it. :leaving: Is there a downside to this that I'm missing?

Is there a downside to this that I'm missing? Isnt 135 HP out of the 848 enough? Plenty for any riding Im going to do.

Isnt 135 HP out of the 848 enough? Plenty for any riding Im going to do. Too much is never enough.

Too much is never enough. :cheers: Squid. :bslap: :lol:

Is the 1098 R the new one? Because the standards don't make anywhere near that power. In fact, I have a tough time believing this bike puts down 135. Thats gotta be crank numbers.

Is the 1098 R the new one? Because the standards don't make anywhere near that power. In fact, I have a tough time believing this bike puts down 135. Thats gotta be crank numbers. Yeah thats crank numbers. The 1098R is the new one, its 1198cc 160hp on the standard 1098 and 1098s

Yeah thats crank numbers. The 1098R is the new one, its 1198cc 160hp on the standard 1098 and 1098s Yeah, ok. I thought so. I've read the 1098 puts down somewhere in the 130's or so. Which is on par with what I've read the 1125R is putting to the road.

The 1098R is the World Superbike homologation bike that's being released for 2008. It doesn't share very many parts with the standard 1098, the motor is almost entirely new. It's about 15 lbs. lighter than a 1098S, 200 HP, 100 Torque, about the most "race" that any street-legal Ducati has ever been. All yours for a measely $39,995!

The 1098R is the World Superbike homologation bike that's being released for 2008. It doesn't share very many parts with the standard 1098, the motor is almost entirely new. It's about 15 lbs. lighter than a 1098S, 200 HP, 100 Torque, about the most "race" that any street-legal Ducati has ever been. All yours for a measely $39,995! MMmmmmmmm :drool:

NIce bike for sure... But I'd rather buy 2 SV650's for less than 1 848!

NIce bike for sure... But I'd rather buy 2 SV650's for less than 1 848! Crappy suspension holmes.

Any bike is going to need a suspension upgrade though... even these Duc's

Any bike is going to need a suspension upgrade though... even these Duc's Sure. But the SV more so...and sooner.

Two SV's + full ohlins is probably cheaper than the 1098! :lol: But, thats why we all drool over the ducs... they ARE sex on wheels, and you gotta pay for that!

Two SV's + full ohlins is probably cheaper than the 1098! :lol: But, thats why we all drool over the ducs... they ARE sex on wheels, and you gotta pay for that! Truth and Truth.

Two SV's + full ohlins is probably cheaper than the 1098! :lol: But, thats why we all drool over the ducs... they ARE sex on wheels, and you gotta pay for that! Yep and the HP combined on those 2 SV's = that of 1 848. :cheers:

Yep and the HP combined on those 2 SV's = that of 1 848. :cheers: :lol:

Yep and the HP combined on those 2 SV's = that of 1 848. :cheers: And yet they will still probably embarass the 848 on the track :cheers:

And yet they will still probably embarass the 848 on the track :cheers: Equal rider ability? Yeah right. :bslap:

You undersetimate the cornering prowess of the little SV!

You undersetimate the cornering prowess of the little SV! The 848 is ALOT lighter, ALOT more powerful and has MUCH better suspension.

I agree. But not 12k worths!

I agree. But not 12k worths! Thats where the coolness factor comes in. Personal preference. You don't NEED to spend Ferrari money to get Porsche performance, but if you can.....why not?

And yet they will still probably embarass the 848 on the track :cheers: False.

Thats where the coolness factor comes in. Personal preference. You don't NEED to spend Ferrari money to get Porsche performance, but if you can.....why not? If you want the Ferrari, get the $70k+ MotoGP Replica... :cheers:

The 848 isn't even on the same playing field as the SV. 369 lbs of sex with 134 horseys and almost 80 ft/lbs of torque. It will own a lot bikes on the track. Just cause you don't want to spend money, a lot of people will want to spend the money for this very nice bike.

"Our apologies. The Ducati website is unavailable at this time due to overwhelming traffic." That 848 must be one of the most beautiful machines ever.

848 premiere is today and tomorrow at our local dealer.

a local shop by me is having a whole big party for this release tonite. with free food, t-shirts and Motot GP vids. i might just make my way over there tonite to see this bike in person.

848 Dyno run - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08Tmg0gLSU 121 HP and 69 ft lbs with a Termignoni Race can fitted.

The 848 isn't even on the same playing field as the SV. 369 lbs of sex with 134 horseys and almost 80 ft/lbs of torque. It will own a lot bikes on the track. The 848 is going to be a phenomenal track bike, and easy enough to ride that a lot of people will be able to go fast on it. 1098 is too much for most people on the track, they'd be faster on an 848. Can't wait to see a bunch of them out at track days this year! I'll have my hands full chasing them down on my 749.....

The 848 is going to be a phenomenal track bike, and easy enough to ride that a lot of people will be able to go fast on it. 1098 is too much for most people on the track, they'd be faster on an 848. Ummm I don't know about that. The 1098 is only 11 pounds heavier and has an extra 40 hp. Also, it's only 2000 dollars more to buy it. If you had the money to buy the 848, why wouldn't you just buy the 1098? Seems like this bike isn't going to fill a niche very well.... I won't be surprised if it doesn't sell that well.

I'm not a twin sportbike fan, but... It would be a toss up between the 848, 1098 or an RC51 SP2.

Ummm I don't know about that. The 1098 is only 11 pounds heavier and has an extra 40 hp. Also, it's only 2000 dollars more to buy it. If you had the money to buy the 848, why wouldn't you just buy the 1098? - that's what I'm saying! Seems that the 1098 is the better deal. Duc just upped the 1098 another $2k for 08 though.

Prices for 2008 are $12,995 for the 848, $15,995 for the 1098, $19,995 for the 1098S, and $39,995 for the 1098R. 848 is 134HP, 70 Torque, 1098/1098S is 160HP, 90 Torque, 1098R is 180HP(200 w/included race exhaust/ecu), 99 Torque. If you want power, you get 26 more HP and 10 lbs. of Torque for $3K with the 1098. You also get a steering damper, solo seat cowl, Brembo monobloc brake calipers and 330mm rotors, and slick coating on the front fork sliders. With the 848, you get still great Brembo (non-monobloc) brakes, 320mm rotors, about 11 lbs. lighter weight, a lighter and faster-revving engine. It all depends on what you want.

Dam! They are dam good bikes, but those prices would make me scared to actualy push the limits.

^my point exactly... the 1098 base model compared to the 848 seems like a no brainer to me :2cents: The S model might be a little harder to say this about just because the price jump is larger... but it's all up to the buyer.

more info on the 1098r please...

more info on the 1098r please... http://www.ducati.com/en/bikes/my2008/ModelPage.jhtml?family=Superbike&model=SBK1098R-08

^my point exactly... the 1098 base model compared to the 848 seems like a no brainer to me :2cents: The S model might be a little harder to say this about just because the price jump is larger... but it's all up to the buyer. I gotta agree. The 848 seems like a total rip off if you look at what you get in the 1098 for not much more coin. Anyone know what the 999 price was compared to the 749? Maybe they had a similar spread like the 848 and 1098.

I gotta agree. The 848 seems like a total rip off if you look at what you get in the 1098 for not much more coin. Anyone know what the 999 price was compared to the 749? Maybe they had a similar spread like the 848 and 1098. I cant remember exacts, but it was similar spread! Always drooled over those ducs, but never played with a v twin enough to switch!

I cant remember exacts, but it was similar spread! Always drooled over those ducs, but never played with a v twin enough to switch! The 999 is still my favorite Duc. http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Ducati-999R-poster.jpg

The 999 is still my favorite Duc. http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Ducati-999R-poster.jpg so True! I lean a little more tward the prior modle though!

the introduction of the 1098R then should kill the desmosidici RR sales at the same HP and half the price.. except for those ppl with way too much extra cash that will never reach the performance difference of the two bikes. but the 848 is a beauty.

the introduction of the 1098R then should kill the desmosidici RR sales at the same HP and half the price.. except for those ppl with way too much extra cash that will never reach the performance difference of the two bikes. but the 848 is a beauty. Most of the Desmo's have already been spoken for.

i never cared for the stacked clusters on previous duc's, but this one feels very RC51 to me

i never cared for the stacked clusters on previous duc's, but this one feels very RC51 to me How so?

How so? rc: http://www.motorsports-network.com/honda/mc2000/51instru2.JPG duc: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/duc.jpg hmm still similar but not quite as much as i had previously thought now that ive put them together. not sure i'd like not having a marked redline on the tach

Tach is still on the top, I like!

You can definitely tell the 848 and 1098 were inspired by Japanese bikes :dthumb:

the introduction of the 1098R then should kill the desmosidici RR sales at the same HP and half the price.. except for those ppl with way too much extra cash that will never reach the performance difference of the two bikes. but the 848 is a beauty. The Desmosedici is already sold out worldwide, with the first batch of bikes set to be delivered this spring. It's really not the same market, the Desmo is a true MotoGP replica bike while the 1098R is a production class race bike. I'll bet WAY more 1098R's will be hitting the track than Desmos, many of the Desmos will end up on a pedestal in a lobby somewhere. From the test ride reports out there so far, it sounds like you pretty much need to be Casey Stoner to take advantage of the Desmosecidi's performance, for mere mortals the bike feels way too stiff and doesn't provide much feedback. The 1098R on the other hand should be an absolute rocket and much easier to ride for us regular humans. Well, regular humans with $40k to spend on a superbike anyway. :wink:

I gotta agree. The 848 seems like a total rip off if you look at what you get in the 1098 for not much more coin. Anyone know what the 999 price was compared to the 749? Maybe they had a similar spread like the 848 and 1098. In 2006, 999 was $17,995, 749S was $14,995 and 749 was $12,995. The current 848 vs. 1098 is most comparable to the 749S vs. 999 comparison, since the 848 is equipped like the 749S was, they aren't making a real basic version of the 848. There are a lot of people out there who want a middleweight bike. Keep in mind, the price spread between an R6 and R1 (~$2k) is LESS than the spread between the 848 and 1098 ($3k), and Yamaha will sell a heck of a lot more R6's than they will R1's. Similarly, Ducati will sell more 848's than 1098's this year. I know in our store we have twice as many 848's coming as 1098's.

You can definitely tell the 848 and 1098 were inspired by Japanese bikes :dthumb: This wasn't a Japanese bike: http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Ducati_916_123.jpg

This wasn't a Japanese bike: http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Ducati_916_123.jpg Massimo Tamburini deigned the 916, he was inspired by this... http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/927/nr750rn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In 2006, 999 was $17,995, 749S was $14,995 and 749 was $12,995. The current 848 vs. 1098 is most comparable to the 749S vs. 999 comparison, since the 848 is equipped like the 749S was, they aren't making a real basic version of the 848. There are a lot of people out there who want a middleweight bike. Keep in mind, the price spread between an R6 and R1 (~$2k) is LESS than the spread between the 848 and 1098 ($3k), and Yamaha will sell a heck of a lot more R6's than they will R1's. Similarly, Ducati will sell more 848's than 1098's this year. I know in our store we have twice as many 848's coming as 1098's. Interesting insight. :dthumb:

This wasn't a Japanese bike: http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Ducati_916_123.jpg Massimo Tamburini deigned the 916, he was inspired by this... http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/927/nr750rn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Those two bikes look nothing alike.

Those two bikes look nothing alike. :skep:

:skep: One has a trellis frame, one does not. The Honda has the lower fairing painted black and extending way back past the front of the rear wheel, whereas on the Ducati it is the same color as the rest of the fairing and very short. The Honda has a tall side vent with a hideous silver comb, the Ducati's is nothing like that. The Honda is wide, the Ducati is thin. The Honda is a large, amorphous blob; the Ducati's proportions are tight and trim. The Ducati's exhaust is out for the world to see, the Honda's is as hidden as they could get it. The Honda has a short, wide, stubby windscreen; the Ducati's is slimmer and tall. The Honda has five-spoke black wheels, the Ducati has three-spoke gold ones. The Honda's front end partially "swallows" the front wheel, the Ducati leaves it out and visible. The Honda has larger "smiling" headlights, the Ducati has slim, vaguely rectangular headlights. The Honda has forward-facing scoops in the rear whereas the Ducati has rearward-facing vents. About the only things they have in common are a single sided swing arm, underseat exhaust, and the same generic traits that all sport bikes have (fairings, big-can exhaust, high center of gravity, very little rake, rear controls, two wheels which are round, etc.) The Honda is far closer to looking like a Hayabusa due to its amorphous, almost "obese" shape and size.

^I can't tell from your post which one you like better :idk: :lol:

1098=Sex on wheels

The Desmosedici is already sold out worldwide, with the first batch of bikes set to be delivered this spring. It's really not the same market, the Desmo is a true MotoGP replica bike while the 1098R is a production class race bike. I'll bet WAY more 1098R's will be hitting the track than Desmos, many of the Desmos will end up on a pedestal in a lobby somewhere. From the test ride reports out there so far, it sounds like you pretty much need to be Casey Stoner to take advantage of the Desmosecidi's performance, for mere mortals the bike feels way too stiff and doesn't provide much feedback. The 1098R on the other hand should be an absolute rocket and much easier to ride for us regular humans. Well, regular humans with $40k to spend on a superbike anyway. :wink: Unsure at your location but at my dealer they've sold three Desmosedici's and ZERO 1098R's. Not a single order for one. One can also note threads at various Duc forums uncertain about the $40K and what one gets. There seems to be a sentiment if one is going to dig deep for the exotic l-twin, one might as well dig a little deeper for the very exotic Desmosedici. $Costs aren't a significant distraction in this realm, and both bikes are waaaay more capable than riders astride them. Even the 1098 is more willing than the 99% of mortals riding one. FWIW, the very trick (and expensive) suspension coming with the Desmosedici, including the $15,000 gas charged front Ohlins, can take the bike from its hard edge to something just right for the average Joe. Depends on what they want.

Ducati hasn't really tried to sell the 1098R yet, you can be sure there will be a more visible effort in the spring when the bike is closer to release, and particularly when they do the international press launch and put the journalists on the bike. They did a major campaign to get pre-orders for the Desmosedici over a year ago for round 1 and then again this year (corresponding with the success in MotoGP) when they decided to make a 2nd production run. The 1098R is really only being sold to meet homologation rules, it won't be the money-maker for Ducati that the Desmosedici was. You can bet they'll all be sold out, and a lot of them will be hitting the track worldwide for sure. Just like the 749R homologation special, and sort of the 999R (although that was pretty watered down from the World Superbike version). The cool thing is the so far in World Superbike testing, the 1098R is proving to be VERY competitive, so hopefully we'll be seeing another Troy Bayliss World Championship in 2008! :cheers:

Maybe, but often after there is an unveiling, whether it be the original 1098, the Hypermotard, or even models from other makes, the phones are ringing at the dealer with deposits. Nothing yet at my large dealer, but it is only one dealer. Indeed, the 1098R is going to be very successful on the track.

^I can't tell from your post which one you like better :idk: :lol: I don't like fatties. :D

1098=Sex on wheels Thats Official!

I just bought a 1098 yesterday, '08 base model red. It was our shop's former demo model and already has the Termignoni full exhaust and a bunch of carbon fiber bits. I'm building a '99 Monster 900 into a race bike for this year, so the 1098 will be a street/track day bike.

I just bought a 1098 yesterday, '08 base model red. It was our shop's former demo model and already has the Termignoni full exhaust and a bunch of carbon fiber bits. I'm building a '99 Monster 900 into a race bike for this year, so the 1098 will be a street/track day bike. and with this quote I officially hate you :nonod: :lol:

I just bought a 1098 yesterday, '08 base model red. It was our shop's former demo model and already has the Termignoni full exhaust and a bunch of carbon fiber bits. I'm building a '99 Monster 900 into a race bike for this year, so the 1098 will be a street/track day bike. Congrats! (Jelous)!!

nice jarel, just calling the 749R a done deal? did race specs change to allow the extra displacement as a reason to change bikes? EBBS-- I LOVE the tokoyo drift hting.. so damn funny

EBBS-- I LOVE the tokoyo drift hting.. so damn funny :iagree: :slol:

nice jarel, just calling the 749R a done deal? did race specs change to allow the extra displacement as a reason to change bikes? No, racing had nothing to do with it, I won't be racing the 1098 and I really never raced the 749R either, it was just a track day bike. I was planning to race it for '07 but I got hurt at the beginning of the year and pretty much missed the whole season. My Monster will be my race bike for '08, in the CCS Lightweight class. I love the 749R, it's going to be painful to sell it, there are lots of things on that bike that are a notch above what comes on the 1098. But I'm selling 1098's and 848's as a dealer, and I think I need to be riding what I'm selling so I can offer first-hand knowledge to customers.