first day of MSF

BORING i hope it is all good tomarow at 630 AM !!!!!!!!! no but it should be tight getting to ride the bikes i hope i can though i pulled my back or something boxing my friend i can move normally but it kinda hurts liffting my left leg so i hope it will be ok are the bikes we get to ride sport or like crusier or induro or what ???? i think they are 250s but i havent seen them yet i am leaving early tomarow because i whant to get first dibs on the bikes !!!!! :dthumb:

the class room stuff may seem boring..but PAY ATTENTION !!!! it's all worth it, and you'll be better for it! the bikes are normally standards..250cc or 350cc ..easy to control that way.

ok now i am embareced to ask in class so ill ask here lol when leaning is it the same as on a dirtbike (if you ride it on the gravel) because i used to ride to the track which was like a mile away and i rode on gravel rodes so i had to lean through the turns when i was above 15 20 mph so when i used to lean i dont know if i used the push method (turn right = press out on right handle bar) but if i dident then once you initiate the lean and are leaned already do u start to steer right now or are you still pushing out on the right bar :bonk:

the class room stuff may seem boring..but PAY ATTENTION !!!! it's all worth it, and you'll be better for it! the bikes are normally standards..250cc or 350cc ..easy to control that way. i am one of the only ones that pay attention there are these biker chicks that ride crousiers and are like out rite oakie drunks!!! they are so annoing i almost said something to them but i dident because one was HOTT!!!!!! lol but i hate the crowd that usually comes with the crousiers :smash:

I hope those people at MSF are ready for you! :lol: They are definitely going to earn their money this weekend

Good luck on the course..and remember, the instructors are there to teach everyone the same, and some learn faster than others...Don't criticize other riders in your class, you'll make too many enemies, and it's not very nice either. Let us know how you make out! :luck:

I hope those people at MSF are ready for you! :lol: They are definitely going to earn their money this weekend :lol: :willy: :rofl: Yes Bull, you have the right idea on the steering/leaning... take it cool and leave your ego at home!! K?

:lol: :willy: :rofl: Yes Bull, you have the right idea on the steering/leaning... take it cool and leave your ego at home!! K? Thats the key for the young studs coming into motorcycling...and trust us bulldog, if you dont check ur ego at the door and pay attention, they instructors will bust you down to size real quick!

I hope those people at MSF are ready for you! :lol: They are definitely going to earn their money this weekend ha ha he kept telling me to slow down i was dragging the pegs all the time lol i am hooked now i cant stop thinking of the gay ass corners that we did and how when i get my bike i will do REAL twisties

Good luck on the course..and remember, the instructors are there to teach everyone the same, and some learn faster than others...Don't criticize other riders in your class, you'll make too many enemies, and it's not very nice either. Let us know how you make out! :luck: best in class so far the instructor asked why i was taking it because i have done everything well and he dident think it was my first street ride but it was real basic today so it will get funner tomarow

ha ha he kept telling me to slow down i was dragging the pegs all the time lol i am hooked now i cant stop thinking of the gay ass corners that we did and how when i get my bike i will do REAL twisties Yeah, Bull, you just have to take it slow, and don't over ride your abilities.... When I went thru the class two people dropped their bikes in the parkin lot... Your young and you have plenty of time to learn.... and LIVE..... :cheers:

Yeah, Bull, you just have to take it slow, and don't over ride your abilities.... When I went thru the class two people dropped their bikes in the parkin lot... Your young and you have plenty of time to learn.... and LIVE..... :cheers: i know but we were going like 15 20 mph and i was whanting to go way more because it was almost boring :wink:

i know but we were going like 15 20 mph and i was whanting to go way more because it was almost boring :wink: The hardest part of riding is at idling speed.... that's why takes balance and skill.... anybody can ride at 150 mph..... MSF is the best way to start out.... I rode four yrs and then took MSF class... and I was shocked how much I didn't know. :thumbs:

Kudos to you for taking the course. :thumbs: I am taking the first available course here the second weekend of March 11th. I can't wait. I'd rather pay $25 bucks and make mistakes on their bikes! I already dropped mine in the snow at about 1/2 mph this winter. I'm on my 4th motorcycle, 1st one in 13 years and I decided to do it right this time. It's never too late to learn how not to be a road hazard...

ha ha he kept telling me to slow down i was dragging the pegs all the time lol i am hooked now i cant stop thinking of the gay ass corners that we did and how when i get my bike i will do REAL twisties So what bike did you use in the class and what were the choices, or were they all the same?

3fury...you are speaking very true words!!! Thanks for TRYING to set the kid straight!

So what bike did you use in the class and what were the choices, or were they all the same? it was either honda night hawk or the rebel i dont know the CCs but couldent have been more then 250 ?? they were ****y but hey they were bikes and all bikes are fun :dthumb: they handled really well

3fury...you are speaking very true words!!! Thanks for TRYING to set the kid straight! what does that meen :bash:

i know but we were going like 15 20 mph and i was whanting to go way more because it was almost boring :wink: And that is when you fall over or someone pulls out it front of you or cuts you off. Pay attention to the slow speed skills

Kudos to you for taking the course. :thumbs: I am taking the first available course here the second weekend of March 11th. I can't wait. I'd rather pay $25 bucks and make mistakes on their bikes! I already dropped mine in the snow at about 1/2 mph this winter. I'm on my 4th motorcycle, 1st one in 13 years and I decided to do it right this time. It's never too late to learn how not to be a road hazard... Yo! Bulldog! Copy this post, print it off and put it on your fridge! You need to read these words daily!

what does that meen :bash: You need alot of help! No offense! Get off the PC and get outside and see life... Come on...you live in Kalifonia...

i beleive when i took it we had 1 250R ninja, i rode that as my bike was a 500R that i bought before the class.. so they gave me it to learn on.. everyone else had Yamaha Virago 250s and i htink a few 125 night hawks. And id assume now your class is over.... Howd you come out in the riding test score???????? Enjoy and get some seat time in now with the license and we'll see ya in Monterey for GP.

i beleive when i took it we had 1 250R ninja, i rode that as my bike was a 500R that i bought before the class.. so they gave me it to learn on.. everyone else had Yamaha Virago 250s and i htink a few 125 night hawks. And id assume now your class is over.... Howd you come out in the riding test score???????? Enjoy and get some seat time in now with the license and we'll see ya in Monterey for GP. i am goin to that one (leguna seca) and yes i graduated the only thing i messed up on was the emergency stopping (i used 27 feet when i could only use 20) and i scored a 90% on the written test !!! yeah i am getting my licence in a week and hopefully my bike in a litle while

i am goin to that one (leguna seca) and yes i graduated the only thing i messed up on was the emergency stopping (i used 27 feet when i could only use 20) and i scored a 90% on the written test !!! yeah i am getting my licence in a week and hopefully my bike in a litle while Just remember that the front brake is 70% + of the stopping power of your bike. A guy in my complex was afraid of his front brake for the longest time, until he slid through a red light by only using his back brake. I had been telling him to use the front, but he swore up and down that it would lock up on him. He had never used it. LOL After the stoplight incident, he decided to try the front brake and found out that it won't lock up if you use it properly.

im not scared of it actually my average was like 18 20 feet but i got nervous on the test part so the back locked up and i slid farther then i would have if i used it properly :dthumb:

i am goin to that one (leguna seca) and yes i graduated the only thing i messed up on was the emergency stopping (i used 27 feet when i could only use 20) and i scored a 90% on the written test !!! yeah i am getting my licence in a week and hopefully my bike in a litle while congratulations :dthumb:

Yes, Congrats bulldog. I was gonna make a new thread ealrier saying congrats... but err... i uhh... forgot :D :lol:

Good job buddy

Yes, Congrats bulldog. I was gonna make a new thread ealrier saying congrats... but err... i uhh... forgot :D :lol: oh i seee im not THAT important :tt: :sob:

congrats bulldog..now, go out and apply what you have learned ! And dont raise our insurance rates! :luck:

congrats bulldog..now, go out and apply what you have learned ! And dont raise our insurance rates! :luck: i dont got a bike yet :sob:

Are you doing daily checks of ebay, cycletrader.com and craigslist.com? Are you buying the cycle traders at the store too, just in case ya missed something on the website?

Are you doing daily checks of ebay, cycletrader.com and craigslist.com? Are you buying the cycle traders at the store too, just in case ya missed something on the website? well i am actually going to buy from the dealership put the down payment and then pay payments(i know im stupid but hey i got to get it new :dthumb:

Congrats bulldog on passing the course!! Definitely worth taking :dthumb: Now when you get your bike don't forget what they've taught you or the advice you've been given on here, becuase it's invaluable information that you WILL need and use. If you ride with other people, don't ever let peer pressure get you into riding outside your abilities or just to keep up.... bad things often happen that way. Remember, ride your own ride. But yea I messed up on the test part too, after doing perfect all day during practice. It was those figure 8 u-turns in the little box... we had done them off and on all day and I never once went outside the lines... perfect every time. Then the ONE time it counts I get nervous cuz they're all looking at me and I go a few inches outside the line. Oh well... still passed just fine and got 100% on the written, so it was all good. Good luck in your bike search!

He speaks the truth... here's what happens when you do that... This is a non-WOS member that was trying to ride outside his abilities...

And bulldog, one thing that's different about leaning on a street bike vs. a dirt bike is that on a street bike, you're basically between the bike and the ground when you lean, whereas on a dirt bike, the bike is more between you and the ground. It's kind of tough for me to explain but maybe these pics will help. Can you see the difference between the two? Basically, on dirt, you are to the "outside of" or "above" the center of gravity of the bike, but on street, you are to the "inside of" or "below" the center of gravity of the bike. The book "Total Control" describes this in detail. As has been mentioned, "Twist of the Wrist" is also a good book. I know you're trying to save your money, but these books are less than $20 each and I really feel they will improve your riding. I think that one or more of these books should come standard with a first motorcycle, along with all of the proper gear.

Congrats Bull on passing the class... :dthumb: Enjoy & ride safe..... :luck:

how long those courses last? what kind of bike u gettin of the dealeship?

how long those courses last? what kind of bike u gettin of the dealeship? im getting the sv650s suzuki go to http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/SV650SK5/Default.aspx or the gsf 500 http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/GS500FK5/Default.aspx in black i strongly suggest you do the same (i think you had a post about the R6) the classes last just about all day sat and sun and 6 to 9 on thurs

And bulldog, one thing that's different about leaning on a street bike vs. a dirt bike is that on a street bike, you're basically between the bike and the ground when you lean, whereas on a dirt bike, the bike is more between you and the ground. It's kind of tough for me to explain but maybe these pics will help. Can you see the difference between the two? Basically, on dirt, you are to the "outside of" or "above" the center of gravity of the bike, but on street, you are to the "inside of" or "below" the center of gravity of the bike. The book "Total Control" describes this in detail. As has been mentioned, "Twist of the Wrist" is also a good book. I know you're trying to save your money, but these books are less than $20 each and I really feel they will improve your riding. I think that one or more of these books should come standard with a first motorcycle, along with all of the proper gear. well to me it felt natrual (serious im not bragging or nothing) but when he was talking about counter steering (press left to go left press right to go right) i was like whatever i dont do that and i turn fine, well i figured i would try it the last day and when i thought about doing it i realized that i was doing that to begin with wiothout him telling me to , maybe you do it on dirt to ??? i just turn and it works i dont think about that i am consintrating on what to do next or a pot hole or something in front of me and i was like the best in the class at cornering and swerving :dthumb: i think i am just a natrual rider because i learned on my 250 cc dirtbike when i was eight and was racing that at hollister hills beeting kids with more experence then me ???? i am seriously not bragging or anything i know i have a lot to learn and i would get smoked by anyof you most likely i am just saying that i dont really think about it when i turn .... do u guys or am i wierd

Eventually, you won't think about countersteering, it's just natural after awhile. Countersteering "upsets" the chassis of the bike, causing it to lean the opposite direction. After you start the lean, then your wheel turns the "correct" way. But my post was talking about proper body position and the difference between dirt and street. If you think about it when you ride, you'll notice the difference. Now, it IS possible to be on the outside of the bikes center of gravity on the street, but you can't take the turn at maximum speed that way. In fact, you WANT to be on the outside of the center of gravity for VERY SLOW turns. All of this is brought up in the books I mentioned. Even if you ARE a natural rider, I still think you can learn something from those books. ;)

oh i am getting one or the other this weekend i will go to cycle gear (got a discount there) which one should i get ???? ..... yes i am very cheap !!!

oh i am getting one or the other this weekend i will go to cycle gear (got a discount there) which one should i get ???? ..... yes i am very cheap !!! Do you plan on concentrating on track days or street riding? If track days, then get Twist of the Wrist. If you want to know more about street riding, then get Total Control. TC talks more about street riding and different kinds of bikes, but mentions track days. While it DOES concentrate on street riding, it still gives excellent advice that can be used on the track. TotW is mainly for track and racing, but also gives good advice that can be applied to the street. So, after all that, get whichever one they have available because either one will help improve your riding. :lol:

I changed my mind on getting new one, cuz i'm worried its gonna get stolen like my bro's car last friday nite, and i want to learn wheelies, so i'll try to save up some money, in couple month i'll be able to get used newer R6. which courses u took? substized or something or full tution? and what is the diff? subs classes all ful until april in my area :sob:

Do you plan on concentrating on track days or street riding? If track days, then get Twist of the Wrist. If you want to know more about street riding, then get Total Control. TC talks more about street riding and different kinds of bikes, but mentions track days. While it DOES concentrate on street riding, it still gives excellent advice that can be used on the track. TotW is mainly for track and racing, but also gives good advice that can be applied to the street. So, after all that, get whichever one they have available because either one will help improve your riding. :lol: i am a newbie remember :lol: track days... i havent even made it there yet in my dreams :lol:

I changed my mind on getting new one, cuz i'm worried its gonna get stolen like my bro's car last friday nite, and i want to learn wheelies, so i'll try to save up some money, in couple month i'll be able to get used newer R6. which courses u took? substized or something or full tution? and what is the diff? subs classes all ful until april in my area :sob: boy i am a newbie my self and that whole post spells trouble :lol: .....well i will probably do wheelies too :lol: who am i foolin :thumbs: but be careful.......about the classes i have no dam clue what your talking about call your DMV and ask about MSF they will know what it is and find a class near you and it shouldent be a wait there was only 12 in my class and not like everyone whants a bike........tuition wtf, all you got to do is pay either 150 or 199 depending on age and they have a night class thurs 6 to 9 and then sat 6 12 lunch then written test 1 to 2 then sun 6 to about 3 then your skills test but i am sure that it is different everywhere and the course is VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY basic i was bored for like 3 hours the first time we rode because we had to teach the idiot how to ride a clutch because he had ridden a gay ass scooter b4 soooooo overall i recomend it and chill off the wheelies until you get the hang of your bike at least :thumbs:

i am a newbie remember :lol: track days... i havent even made it there yet in my dreams :lol: You don't have to be a highly experienced rider to go to a track day IF it's the school type. You just have to be really comfortable with your bike. Sportbike Track Time has a decent structure, where they have a beginner class that is divided up into different sections based on experience. They teach you a lot, but I would still suggest reading either TC or TotW before going to a track day. Either one will help you out for your first track day. I'm SOOOOOOOOO looking forward to the track days now that I have the R6. They were fun on the old Katana, I can only imagine how much fun they'll be on a bike that is actually designed for the track.

You don't have to be a highly experienced rider to go to a track day IF it's the school type. You just have to be really comfortable with your bike. Sportbike Track Time has a decent structure, where they have a beginner class that is divided up into different sections based on experience. They teach you a lot, but I would still suggest reading either TC or TotW before going to a track day. Either one will help you out for your first track day. I'm SOOOOOOOOO looking forward to the track days now that I have the R6. They were fun on the old Katana, I can only imagine how much fun they'll be on a bike that is actually designed for the track. :nono: funny guy over here thinks he can make me jelious......well you DID jerk :lol: jk i dident know they had a beginner race track day course thingy mobober but do they have it at leguna seca or where do they do it in cali and how much about would it be

and chill off the wheelies until you get the hang of your bike at least :thumbs: of course, im just thinking of future, cuz if i'll get bike now i'll be stock with it for couple years

but do they have it at leguna seca or where do they do it in cali and how much about would it be STT will only be at Laguna Seca on December 16th (should give you plenty of time to get familiar with your bike and practice the lessons in Total Control). The cost is $300 (Sheesh, is EVERYTHING more expensive in California???) Anyway, here is the website. http://www.sportbiketracktime.com/schedule_western2005.html

STT will only be at Laguna Seca on December 16th (should give you plenty of time to get familiar with your bike and practice the lessons in Total Control). The cost is $300 (Sheesh, is EVERYTHING more expensive in California???) Anyway, here is the website. http://www.sportbiketracktime.com/schedule_western2005.html yep but i got better weather then you :lol: i think i would trade though

Bulldog, did you say in a thread that you were going to get the Suzuki GS500? Not to rain on your parade, but I just looked at a test between the GS500 and the Kawasaki Ninja 500 in the July, 2004 issue of Motorcycle Consumer News. Except for brakes and styling, the Ninja beat the GS in every catagory. Six page article. If you want a copy, send me a pm with your address.

Bulldog, did you say in a thread that you were going to get the Suzuki GS500? Not to rain on your parade, but I just looked at a test between the GS500 and the Kawasaki Ninja 500 in the July, 2004 issue of Motorcycle Consumer News. Except for brakes and styling, the Ninja beat the GS in every catagory. Six page article. If you want a copy, send me a pm with your address. done :dthumb:

Cycle world had a comp form a while back too, PRICE, and performance go to the 500R, but the R cant touch the GS for style... and ive got a R. No doubt the new GS is the nicest 500 ive ever seen outside a pro race bike

Cycle world had a comp form a while back too, PRICE, and performance go to the 500R, but the R cant touch the GS for style... and ive got a R. No doubt the new GS is the nicest 500 ive ever seen outside a pro race bike :dthumb: i agre but the r isnt THAT bad and ive heard nothing but good about it

if i wont have shoes that will cover my ancles, will that be an issue on MSF training? i got my scheduled on feb 24

Not sure to tell you the truth. It may just depend on the instructors. I wore a pair of work boots and there was one guy that had a pear of sneakers on and they didn't say anything to him about it.

well my instructor sent a guy home because of it so that meen the guy has to pay 100 $$$$$ to take the course over again !!!!! GET A PAIR OF RIDING SHOES i wore a pair of work boots i use to mow the lawn as long as they are over the ankle they dont care what they are

lol he could've bought some nice joe rocket boots for 80$

yeah the guy was pissed but since you have class the first night bring him the shoes you plan on wearing and if he says no then just buy some 20$ work boots at walmart :thumbs:

glad to see ur takin the msf though :dthumb:

yeah, i was always was thinking about it, but not that fast, the courses by my house where all filled up until may, so i called this place like 40min from me and somebody canceled so i got lucky, got that date, did u get the bike that u wanted from dealer?

yeah, i was always was thinking about it, but not that fast, the courses by my house where all filled up until may, so i called this place like 40min from me and somebody canceled so i got lucky, got that date, did u get the bike that u wanted from dealer? well not yet long story short: if i get the job i am appling for then i will get me uncles friends svs650 if not then when i do get a job then i will get it straight out the dealer (i am only 16 so tring to find first job is kinds hard) r u getting the R6????

well good luck i found one in Ohio for $7,685 OTD price, plus 400$ for shipping, but i need one more thousand for down payment

thats cool good luck with the R6

Bulldog... I really couldnt say anything bad aobut the 500R except i wish it came factory full fairing.. but im sure it will in the next year or two... Great bike and the motor is amazing for durability and maintance. But yeah if u dont go GS or SV first..... And we've discussed that enough to leave it alone now

Scott don't worry about it. Bull is a pro and knows more about it than you... come on he's taken a MSF coarse and is now a seasoned pro!

Scott don't worry about it. Bull is a pro and knows more about it than you... come on he's taken a MSF coarse and is now a seasoned pro! :cursin: :sw: :bas: :wtf: :loud: when did i say that!!!.................i am but when did i say it!!!! jk

Bulldog: Here is one you should get: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6708&item=4526324061&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

i just cant bring myself to get an ugly slow bike??? i am either gettin the svs650 or the gsf 500 i havent made up my mind yet and probably wont until i go to see the bikes and will probably test drive them and theone i like better i will get im sorry if this sounds squidly but some of you said i woule grow out of the 500 quik so i dont see myself getting a 250 plus i am a big guy and that would just look stupid :wtf:

I'm around 220 and I have ridden a VTR 250... and had an absolute freakin blast... See, little bikes like that, you can whip em around like thay are a BMX... not literally, but they are so light and flickable, you can really have fun on them. Full throttle is fast enough for the E-way, although you won't be winning any races. Yuo know how many times a rider usually drops their first bike? I think its an average of like 4 or 5... a 250 is a lot easier to pick up :)

:cursin: :sw: :bas: :wtf: :loud: when did i say that!!!.................i am but when did i say it!!!! jk You say it all the time in a round a-bout way! :redevil:

when you guys say DROP THE BIKE do you meen like at a trafic stop and they dont got balence or somethin??? b/c i have NEVER droped my dirtbike unless i am in the process of falling do to something other then balence :tt:

when you guys say DROP THE BIKE do you meen like at a trafic stop and they dont got balence or somethin??? b/c i have NEVER droped my dirtbike unless i am in the process of falling do to something other then balence :tt: :lol: Dropping it is dropping it, regardless of the reason. If you pull up in your driveway and your foot hits sand and the bike falls, that's dropping it. If you're going around a turn and you hit some gravel or a car comes into your lane and you make a stupid move and go down, that's dropping it. If you come around a turn and you lean over farther than your tires will allow or you catch a footpeg and you lowside, that's dropping it. If you come into a turn too hot and you go off the road and go down, that's dropping it. If you're putting it on the trailer and your buddy loses his grip and the bike falls over before you can catch it, that's dropping it. Get the picture? Yes, you will drop the bike at some point, it happens.

Plus, you will do all the stupid things with your first bike, no matter how hard you try to tell yourself you won't :) Leave it on the kickstand in the dirt, come out to a fallen bike... Test your bikes off road capabilities, end up with a fallen bike.. Like capn said, put your foot down wrong, whamo. Most occur while low speed maneuvering through a parking lot... it just happens...

okay then :thumbs:

you def must alway double and triple check that the kickstand is all the way down and on a hard surface. my buddy had his bike for a week and put the stand down on a rock and it fell over right as he turned away. i have seen a bike drop becasue of strong wind b4, is that dropping it. lol

Low, don't even talk about it! I had my 9R for about 2 or 3 weeks and it was blown over in a strong thunderstorm. It was sittin outside my apt, me not thinking it was going to storm, with a bike cover on it. Woke up in the middle of the night and found it laying on it's side. The cover acted as a sail and just poof...blew it right off the kickstand and over!

BTW the strong wind blow over and the kickstand on a rock happen to the same person one day after another. it messed up his tail section pretty bad scratches.

:lol: i got to get used to kick stand !!! my bike dont got one i usually just sit on it all the time lol

:lol: i got to get used to kick stand !!! my bike dont got one i usually just sit on it all the time lol Just make sure you get used to putting it UP before you take off. Although, a 2001 SV should have a safety switch to prevent you leaving it down.

Mine did like $3300 worth of damage.. That's cause state farm replaces everything that has any type of scratch, regardless of how small!

im not sure any 04-05 bike wont have a safety switch.. except maybe a HD. The like 94 EX250s have a safety switch so any of the big for bikes use em one evrything.

im not sure any 04-05 bike wont have a safety switch.. except maybe a HD. The like 94 EX250s have a safety switch so any of the big for bikes use em one evrything. Yeah, but some people actually remove the switch from the circuit (usually if it breaks). :crazy: So I just wanted to let him know about it if he buys a used bike.

Yeah, but some people actually remove the switch from the circuit (usually if it breaks). :crazy: So I just wanted to let him know about it if he buys a used bike. thanx captain :dthumb:

whats up guys...i'm back..havent been here for couple weeks, well got some news, i'm half thru with my MSF classes :cheers: classrom part is boring as hell, driving if FUUUUUNN, even bikes are old and look ugly they're fun to ride! And I'm gonna say that if i will have kids who want to ride bikes, they are NOT going to be over there with out passing MSF courses and will recommend it to everybody!!! and almost forgot, i got my 2005 R6 in Ohio for $7,300 OTD plus shipping 400$...

whats up guys...i'm back..havent been here for couple weeks, well got some news, i'm half thru with my MSF classes :cheers: classrom part is boring as hell, driving if FUUUUUNN, even bikes are old and look ugly they're fun to ride! And I'm gonna say that if i will have kids who want to ride bikes, they are NOT going to be over there with out passing MSF courses and will recommend it to everybody!!! and almost forgot, i got my 2005 R6 in Ohio for $7,300 OTD plus shipping 400$... SWEET !!!! how does it handle with ya!?

they didnt have it in stock so they ordered one, and its coming here in two weeks, but as soon as i'll try itout, i'll tell u... man this one dude came in gym pants and hoodsweater and some snickers(w/e u spell it) and instructor let him stay :thumbs:

they didnt have it in stock so they ordered one, and its coming here in two weeks, but as soon as i'll try itout, i'll tell u i think it will be cool but be careful on it mine is a dangerous toy and the R6 is much much much more powerful as far as i know

Is it going to be assembled or do you get a fresh crate job? (that's the way I likem)

im good at mechanics but i wouldent trust my skill on something i would be riding 60+ miles an hour on the gravel :dthumb:

im good at mechanics but i wouldent trust my skill on something i would be riding 60+ miles an hour on the gravel :dthumb: Most street bikes just need the front wheel installed, breaks and clutch bleed, check oil, hook up and charge the battery, air up the tires, adjust mirrors, and check for loss bolts (needs to be done regularly) This varies from brand to brand but, most are about the same. Im sure I forgot some things but, that should cover most of it. The stealer charge $400 or $500 for that service! :cry:

Most street bikes just need the front wheel installed, breaks and clutch bleed, check oil, hook up and charge the battery, air up the tires, adjust mirrors, and check for loss bolts (needs to be done regularly) This varies from brand to brand but, most are about the same. Im sure I forgot some things but, that should cover most of it. The stealer charge $400 or $500 for that service! :cry: i have to do that myself :cursin:

i have to do that myself :cursin: They may do it for you! just ask. If they don't, make sure there not charging you for it.

idk triton you better let me break the R6 in for ya!!! :wink: i really whant to ride a (LITER) bike to see the performance diff. b/c my bike is FAST and you dont realise how fast you goin till u look at the speedometer but for a bike to have more power then mine must be fun to ride!!!

idk triton you better let me break the R6 in for ya!!! :wink: i really whant to ride a (LITER) bike to see the performance diff. b/c my bike is FAST and you dont realise how fast you goin till u look at the speedometer but for a bike to have more power then mine must be fun to ride!!! R6 is not a liter bike! :bash: R1 is! :twfrox:

an R6 is a liter bike isent it??? it certinly isent a entry level 600 :screwy:

do u know what a liter is????? 1000cc's...a R6 is 600ccs.... its a measure of engine size..like a 5.7 liter v8 or 2.0liter inline4..... a 600 cc bike is not goign to be a literbike no matter how much power it has.

Bulldog :screwy: :wink: :noob: :twfrox: He will learn! :lol: :lol:

do u know what a liter is????? 1000cc's...a R6 is 600ccs.... its a measure of engine size..like a 5.7 liter v8 or 2.0liter inline4..... a 600 cc bike is not goign to be a literbike no matter how much power it has. my bad i thought it was the measure of performance :bonk: i guess that was stupid :bonk: ....hey it was late i was tired lol :screwy:

I passed the MFS class!!! :dthumb: now i feel more comfortable riding bike, will try r6 soon hehe, but classes were great experience!

I passed the MFS class!!! :dthumb: now i feel more comfortable riding bike, will try r6 soon hehe, but classes were great experience! Congrats!!!!!! :dthumb: You are way ahead of many on the road. :wink:

Congrats!!!!!! :dthumb: You are way ahead of many on the road. :wink: :dthumb:

Damn Bull you put your foot in your mouth GOOD on this one!!! Liter bike being a R6... :screwy: :lol:

Bull; Is my 998 a liter bike? :scratch:

okay that was stupid of me okay!!!! :lol: ..........yes it is

okay that was stupid of me okay!!!! :lol: ..........yes it is It is classified as a liter bike but, :dthumb: technically it is 2cc's short. :sob:(I can fix that) Just for the record, it is a twin like your bike. Its power is closer to the 750's than a 1000.

Ok, here's one that will really be a test... Is my ZX-9R a liter bike????

im gonna go with no, not if its stock. it has to bee ecactly 1000cc to be a liter if your 9r has 1000cc then its gotta be ready to blow up. lol i dont even think it would be possible to bore the motor out that much.

NOPE it is considered a liter bike...just as the 929 and the 954 were....

NOPE it is considered a liter bike...just as the 929 and the 954 were.... Anything 750 up is according to the insurance companies. :bash:

you can bore the 9R motor to 998CC and i'm pretty sure they ould squeese a extra .5 cc from each cylinder.. i htink its just a 998 for the ease and relaiblitity of the mod... but the 9R motor with the 998cc conversion kit is a bad ass motor...basically the exact same specs as the 10R motor then. 10R motor is just hticker if u wanna bore up more.. plus i think its more aluminum and actually liter then the 9R/Z1000 motor. But yeah anything 900cc up is basically a literbike as far as a race organization is concerned. if u went by 1000ccs all hte 1000 badged bikes would fall short a few cc's or 50 ccs even Only a few truely over hte 1000 mark.. old 1100's and the ZX12R and Busa.. rest are basically all under.

Thanks Scott! :dthumb: I was thinking I talked with a guy last fall that said his 9R had a 998 big bore but, I've slept sense then and couldn't remember for sure. In case you haven't figured it out yet. Im not a :puke: Kawie fan, so I don't keep up with them as much. :nonod:

its ok we gotta have ppl with more expensive bikes ot pass.... lol :twfrox: But id buy a Duc if i cna ever affordo ne,,,.. and if they ever get smart and double the number of cylinders. i love the looks of em and the cornering performance. Though i wish theyd make an alum frame too..diet and a 4cyl motor and they have the best bike hands down. For look i htink ducati is doing it all right though.

Owning a Duc isn't about the speed for me. :nonod: (former GSXR 1000 owner). Its about the lust! :wink: :lol:

Owning a Duc isn't about the speed for me. :nonod: (former GSXR 1000 owner). Its about the lust! :wink: :lol: :dthumb: they dont break down like there rep shows do they??? my uncle has one and he aint had no probs

Yeah, Duc's are like the HD of the sportbike world!!! Only second to a Buell!!

second to buell... and thats only cuz buell has the HD motor... if Buell had gotten its own motor it woulda topped the duc :lol: