ShanMan14
02-16-2005, 01:38 PM
Season is officially cancelled. Pick your favorite news outlet...
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NHL = teh suckShanMan14 02-16-2005, 01:38 PM Season is officially cancelled. Pick your favorite news outlet...
:cursin: :cursin: :cursin: :cursin: :cursin: :cursin: GSXR1000DJ 02-16-2005, 02:08 PM :sob: :sob: :cry: :bash: :bash: :redevil: pickle.of.doom 02-16-2005, 02:14 PM Me<--- :bthorse: ---> NHL
p.s. im the guy with the bat :) BikesR4Girls 02-16-2005, 06:11 PM :sob:
Damnit. And I just went to my first hockey game last Saturday. I'm so disappointed. Of course I went to an ECHL (I think ??? :lol: ), but I loved it!!!! I'm so addicted and hopefully will get to go again tomorrow night.
This sucks! As if they don't get paid enough... :nono: bulldog 02-16-2005, 06:25 PM well they will be back next year :hug: :hug: Gas Man 02-16-2005, 07:03 PM well they will be back next year :hug: :hug:
You don't know that for sure!!! Low 02-16-2005, 07:04 PM Guess everyone will have to watch Classic Football... :sob: bulldog 02-16-2005, 09:56 PM You don't know that for sure!!!
oh i thought tht isd what my friend said(i dont follow NHL at all) :dthumb: jeeps84 02-16-2005, 10:46 PM :whistle: Everybody go to Canada and smoke lots of pot!!!!!!! :redevil: Captain Morgan 02-16-2005, 11:41 PM What's hockey? ;) bulldog 02-16-2005, 11:56 PM What's hockey? ;)
ha now thats what ive whanted to say for a while!!!!!!! :lol: GsxrJack 02-17-2005, 07:26 AM the NHL has been horrible for years now..only good games are playoff games and there excellant, too bad the regular season isnt like that...
all i watch now is college hockey and go to a few games a year...its nice being around UNH, Boston college, Boston university, Umass lowell etc...some great hockey from start to finish.... Low 02-17-2005, 07:43 AM ...only good games are playoff games and there excellant, too bad the regular season isnt like that...
:iagree: You know that doesn't only apply to NHL... NBA, NFL and Baseball are the same... :sob: maybe that's why ratings and attendance has droped over the years... Guess they need to restructure... GsxrJack 02-17-2005, 07:45 AM :iagree: You know that doesn't only apply to NHL... NBA, NFL and Baseball are the same... :sob: maybe that's why ratings and attendance has droped over the years... Guess they need to restructure...
they need to get rid of 5 or 6 teams, i would agree with basketball in the regular season being boring but never ever football NFL :cheers: Low 02-17-2005, 08:06 AM I don't know about that... I seem to only watch OU football on a regular bases...and could probably care less about almost all the pro-sports...until the playoffs start... :flush: chev 02-17-2005, 10:03 AM Rumor has it that 8 teams may be dropped from the league next year! Finally. They let it get too big and the salaries out of hand. With the cap, teams will be forced to dump people and you'll see better competition because of it. Some teams are in a lot of trouble. I would expect there to be a season next year, with the pros or with backup players from the minors. Players don't agree to play, then the owners will let them sit and bring it people who want to play, not cry. Most likely, you'll see an agreement with a salary cap around 45 million. The Wings are screwed....they're currently at a salary of 100 million plus. ShanMan14 02-17-2005, 10:09 AM I don't see how the league COULDN'T lose teams after this. Pigface1 02-17-2005, 10:25 AM Goodnow needs to be shot. Mudpuppy 02-17-2005, 11:23 AM What a joke. I heard a local Detroit DJ who will remain nameless - THE DREW of Drew & Mike - saying all this crap about the players, blah blah blah - how can you blame them, etc. Quit sucking up to the gd players and the f'd up players union and blaming the owners you kiss a$$ - I was SOOOOOOOOOOO going to come to work and blaze his a$$ but then I said forget it - the guy hangs with players all the time and they would kick his a$$ among other repercussions.. But when I see Brasheur driving a new Ferrari into practice wearing a $10,000 suit, etc. that makes me sick - who paid for that? We did.. The dumb mfrs who pay for jerseys, tickets, beers, food, etc. and most of us can barely afford that, etc. - We scrape by day to day and spend our last hard earned penny to go see our "heros".. You know what - I am done with that.. We enable this worthless no good selfish mfrs WAY too much - I refuse to support that in any way shape or form.. You want a real sport that is self sufficient and that cares about the fans? Try NASCAR mfrs.. I am so sick of hockey.. Like I said before I will support the local teams like the AHL, UHL, etc. that are working class joes like you and me that have a smigedon of respect for the greatest game on earth.. These clowns in the NHL have no respect for anything.. I hope they all go broke and have to get real jobs like the rest of us - you want to hear some whining mfrs let that happen - they wouldn't last 1 day.. The sad thing is the small bar owners, the trainers, the refs, all the little guys, etc. are taking the blunt of this idiocy.. It makes me sick.. The NHL is and has been DEAD TO ME.. I do not recognize anything related.. I put an anti www.nhl.com program on my PC so that it will NEVER go to their gay a$$ site.. They can go to he!! and they can DIE.. :bthorse: :bthorse: :bthorse: :bthorse: :bthorse: :bthorse: :bthorse: ShanMan14 02-17-2005, 11:33 AM The players decided to see if they could exploit the system, and it worked. The owners paid outrageous salaries. Who's to blame for that? The ones demanding/asking for more money or the ones that actually pay it?
The problem I have is the owners complaining of salaries and profit sharing, yet they, at the same time, pay these salaries to win. You can't have it both ways, if it really was an issue the owners should have come together a long time ago and figured out how NOT to get into bidding wars.
I blame both sides, but I blame the owners more. Even more so now that the players offered a 24% rollback AND a salary cap they were so adamant about not implementing. It shows me a willingness to work it out on the part of the players, and a "eff ewe" attitude on the part of the league.
It's been said many times, but it sure looks like Bettman never wanted a deal. Maybe this is his plan, destroy the league and contract the pool of teams thereby eliminating the weak teams. WHO knows, but the 11th hour effort of the players impressed me, and the outright denial of the league pissed me off.
I'll watch the NHL when it comes back, but the league lost my respect. The only sport I really care about disappoints me. pickle.of.doom 02-17-2005, 11:57 AM The thing with the expansion teams is... they can't really axe em. The cities paid MILLIONS of dollars to be allowed in to the league, which is what started the outrageous spending the owners were doing because they had all this extra money from the expansion. So if they chop teams, they won't be the recently expanded teams.. Yerf Dog 02-17-2005, 12:02 PM The real losers in the cancellation are all the supporting industries (facilities, vendors, etc...) and the fans. :(
It's hard to believe that they couldn't come to some resolution. :screwy:
Should I pitch all my hockey jerseys in protest? :tt: Gas Man 02-17-2005, 01:23 PM The players decided to see if they could exploit the system, and it worked. The owners paid outrageous salaries. Who's to blame for that? The ones demanding/asking for more money or the ones that actually pay it?
The problem I have is the owners complaining of salaries and profit sharing, yet they, at the same time, pay these salaries to win. You can't have it both ways, if it really was an issue the owners should have come together a long time ago and figured out how NOT to get into bidding wars.
I blame both sides, but I blame the owners more. Even more so now that the players offered a 24% rollback AND a salary cap they were so adamant about not implementing. It shows me a willingness to work it out on the part of the players, and a "eff ewe" attitude on the part of the league.
It's been said many times, but it sure looks like Bettman never wanted a deal. Maybe this is his plan, destroy the league and contract the pool of teams thereby eliminating the weak teams. WHO knows, but the 11th hour effort of the players impressed me, and the outright denial of the league pissed me off.
I'll watch the NHL when it comes back, but the league lost my respect. The only sport I really care about disappoints me.
Very well put Shan!!!
MP, I think you heard Drew & Mike wrong! They were wondering how people could blame the players! But then again, I'm trying not to listen to all of it. I'm not a big hockey fan, but I hate to see the little guys suffer during all of this.
Also, who is going to be pissed is the season ticket holders. They were talking about that as well on Drew&Mike, that they only got to see a few games....they want some of their money back!!! Pigface1 02-17-2005, 02:09 PM Here's the bottom line. . the players' association said they will under no circumstances entertain any idea of a salary cap. They said that 7 months ago.
Three days ago they changed their minds and went back on everything they said. They should have started negotiating seven months ago. F'em.
If it was the NFL, whatever, I could understand. But the NHL is lucky just to be around, it is not popular nation-wide, never has been, and never will be. It's the owners that take all the financial risk, not the players. They need to bring some CHL players into the training camps and I guarantee you the NHL players will change their tune.
The last three times there were lockouts, it was at the hands of Goodnow, not Bettman. He needs to pull his head out of his ass and understand the basic economics of it, or step down before he completely ruins the league. The NHL can't afford to be screwing around like this.
Greed, no more, no less. DLIT 02-18-2005, 01:33 AM NHL=NO HOCKEY LEAGUE :flush: :nopity: FOR ALL YOU HOCKEY FANS Pigface1 02-18-2005, 11:00 AM I don't blame the players, I blame Goodnow. You'd think he would have learned something from the previous past two times. In 87 the NFL finally said f'it and they brought in some CFL, etc, players. A cap works in every other sport, but for some reason he thinks the NHL is above it. And now all he did was damn near kill it. It sucks. .I'm not as big of a fan as Shan, but I absolutely love the playoffs and road to the Cup. Not to mention I'll probably never get to see half of my favorite players ever hit the ice again all b/c Goodnow is a f'n moron, IMO.
Someone tell me if I'm wrong about this. :skep: Low 02-18-2005, 12:02 PM :here:
THE SOX CURSE LIVES (FOR HOCKEY) [Roger Clegg]
As explained Here (http://prodtsn.tsn.ca/audio_video/video_loader.asp?reel=21429), the Boston Red Sox curse still lives, at least for hockey fans. When the Red Sox won the series in 1918, the following season’s Stanley Cup playoffs were canceled because of an influenza epidemic. Then everything went along fine for 85 years, with the Sox losing and the Cup being awarded. But then, last fall, the Red Sox won another series and, sure enough, hockey fans must now again suffer a Cupless season.
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Go figure... :tt: chev 02-18-2005, 01:15 PM Hockey is a tier 2 sport. Sorry, but it is. When I say that, I mean from a commercial standpoint. Personally, I love the game. I love going and watching my ladies brother play college, it's great. I use to love the NHL until Bettman came in and tried to expand it and take it to the ranks of baseball or football. Not possible. There just isn't the market here. Come on, Canada's game left Canada for the US and the US screwed it all up by trying to compete with the big leagues. It's like soccer, never going to be big over here but it's the biggest sport in the world......because it's marketed in the right places. Hockey never should have expanded the way it did...especially south. Tampa Bay wins the cup but the team loses money!!! What's wrong with that picture. So, I blame Bettman for trying to blow the league up into NFL caliber and at the same time I blame the players NOW for letting it go to there head and want that kind of money. Who ends up suffering....WE DO with ticket prices etc. As far as I'm concerned, let the kids have a chance at the NHL. BRing up the college, minor leagues, etc and let them play. I'd rather watch that hockey anyday. Those are the guys busting their balls to make it....still playing with heart and for the love of the game. Not these NHL babies who just play now because it pays well. | |