Anyone Got A Ticket?

Has anyone got a ticket for doing at least 20 MPH over the posted limit? I got one last week and didn't get a fine but I got a court date. Has this happened to anyone else before? What happened? I'm gonna try to settle this before i have to go to court so I don't have to pay court costs. I know it's different in each state but i was just wondering.

In many states, 20 over is a criminal offense. It can mean a non-custodial arrest and a mandatory court date. I don't know what it's like in your state, but you may have no choice.

I got one something like that in 1989 109 in a 55. Lost my license for 30 days! Lost my insurance company and had to get new company with much higher rates. You play you pay. Sooner or later.

The officer said I was going 86 in a 65 and I told him I was going like 70 or 75. he just said "OK" and continued to write me up. Shouldn't he have showed me the radar? I think I'm gonna use that if I actually do appear in court. I don't have my endorsement yet either. All I have is the MSF card. I know, I know, i should have mentioned it earlier. Around here the cops will accept the MSF card alone. I'll just tell them I'm waiting on the MA DMV to mail me back my endorsement, because I don't want to become a Nevada resident.

Ooooooooh... your'e in trouble :tt: :spam: I could not even tell you what could happen... I know that it is the Judges discretion if you will pay a fine or be able to take Defensive driving... but How much over the speed limit were you really going and how fast did he clock you? I have a few things at work... that may be able to help you...in some way... :luck:

Here's my best suggestion... check out this website... Linky (http://www.svrider.com/tips/speeding.html)

I got a really stupid one in 99. (stupid me) Just got my new/used bike and spun it around the hood. Got pulled over for no plate, ticketed for no insurance, and escaped with no endorsement. I really could have used that money elsewhere. :nonod:

He said I was going 86 in a 65 and I said I was going like 70-75. He never showed me the radar showing I fast I was going. So he might or might not have clocked me at 21MPH over the limit.

I just got my first ticket about a week ago on my way up to Orlando. I got pretty lucky though.... the whole way up there I was going about 120-125 (70 mph limit on the t-pike), and I get north of West Palm Beach (about 75 miles) and get pulled over by FHP. Luckily I had come up on some cars just before that and had slowed down to 90, so that's what he had me clocked at. He was really nice though and didn't even give me a lecture, just said "well you were going a little fast back there, so I'm gonna have to write you a citation", and then he dropped the speed to 79 in a 70 since 90 would have been over $200. So now it's only $82, and court is not mandatory. This way I can just take the driving scool thing online and get the fine reduced, and no points on my license. Several months ago though I got REAL lucky! Got pulled over locally going 90 in a 65, and I too didn't have my endorsement put on my license yet, only the MSF card. After a brief lecture and him telling me he "could" take me to jail right now, he said "you have 2 options: I take you to jail or you have somebody come pick you up". I told him I'd have somebody come pick me up. Then he said "well I'm not gonna wait around here, so whatever you do after I leave is your business. If I come back by here and your gone I'll assume somebody picked you up". After all that, he got in his car and left... phew!! I waited about 10 minutes and slowly made my way back home, LOL

I waited about 10 minutes and slowly made my way back home, LOL I would have done the same! :lol:

He doesn't have to show you the radar... you can ask but I believe that's up to them if they will show you or not... what did he write on the ticket... Cuz that's the speed that the judge will look at.

Well I didn't get lucky on this one. Thanks for the link Gas. I'm gonna be reading it for a while and taking A LOT of notes.

Has anyone got a ticket for doing at least 20 MPH over the posted limit? I got one last week and didn't get a fine but I got a court date. Has this happened to anyone else before? What happened? I'm gonna try to settle this before i have to go to court so I don't have to pay court costs. I know it's different in each state but i was just wondering. Few years ago just finished tuning up my Ninja 1000R jumped on freeway looked behind me for cops, none opend throttle full open. Looked in my rear view mirror CHP car was right on my a$$ :rant: Figured Officer had my plate no chance of taking off. Officer said he clocked me at 125 MPH but he would give me a break wrote ticket for 85 MPH in 55 MPH zone. Decided to go to court to see if cop showed up, was going to give story that I merged onto freeway car came up on me fast so I nailed gas for my own safety. Officer showed up for court, decided hell with story just plead guilty. Good thing I did. Judge said if I had given him a story he was going to suspend my license. Paid $250 fine for speeding only :whistle:

He doesn't have to show you the radar... you can ask but I believe that's up to them if they will show you or not... what did he write on the ticket... Cuz that's the speed that the judge will look at. CA cops are suppose to lock in your radar speed, if you ask cop has to show it to you. Friend who is local radar cop told me if I ever get pulled over for speeding with radar gun drag out ticket. When you are ready to sign ask to see radar reading. He says most cops donot lock in speed on gun, knowbody ever asks to see speed reading. Hopefully will never have to try this out :cheers:

If the police show you the radar or laser is completely irrelevant. Even if they do show it to you it wont show that it was your vehicle that was clocked. They will very rarely show it to you unless you ask. Bringing it up in court that he didnt show it to you will just be a waste of the courts time. Judges do not like that at all. First off you do want to GO TO COURT. There is a chance that the officer wont show. OK, say he does show this is what will probably happen The officer will testify first (please keep in mind this is at least how it works in So. Cal) and will say something to the extent of..... I was monitoring Van Nuys Blvd which is a North South street. The posted speed limit is 45 with a critical speed of 47 mph. Van Nuys is a very busy street with many stoplights, pedestrian traffic, etc. etc. There is a speed survey on file with the court if you would take judicial notice. I was in a uniform like this one sitting on a black and white police motorcycle. I observed Mr ....... travelling s/b at an estimated speed of 64 mph. I placed my calibrated laser unit to my eye and squeezed the trigger. I have attended a 40 hour class covering laser and radar units. The laser returned a reading of 66 mph. The laser was properly functioning. Due to the above circumstances and Mr..... speed I believe that he was operating his vehicle in an unsafe manner. I stopped Mr...... and he said............ I then cited him for the indicated violation and released him on his promise to appear. If you get a officer who says the above and seems to recite all this from memory. Your pretty much done for. This will be the case of all Motor Cops. This is what they do. This is what they get paid for and this is how they get to keep on their bikes OK that is the worst part. Now for the stuff that might help you. Sometimes a officer might be using a radar/laser unit and might not even be trained on it. 1. If he makes no mention of being laser trained. Ask him his experience. 2. Ask if there is a speed survey for the street on file with the court 3. Ask when the Laser/Radar was calibrated last. When you are stopped BE COOL during the entire time. This goes even when they ask you to sign the ticket. Most police do not like giving nice cooperative people citations. IT IS THEIR JOB. If they let you go they just have to go find someone else. If they see that you show up in court and do care enough to hope that maybe they would not show sometimes you may get a break and they will dismiss the ticket without you having to do a thing. Granted, that is a best case scenario but it does happen. This is why you want to be cooperative during the entire time you are stopped. Just because he asks you to sign the ticket doesnt mean he cant/wont help you later. Good Luck.

I got one something like that in 1989 109 in a 55. Lost my license for 30 days! Lost my insurance company and had to get new company with much higher rates. You play you pay. Sooner or later. the year i was born

the year i was born and that's why we try to help you. Even if you don't understand it. :dthumb: :jacked: :sorry:

i seriouskly dont speed until i am about a mile or two into the country ..... i MAYBE hit 40 on a 35 in the city but thats it

and that's why we try to help you. Even if you don't understand it. :dthumb: :jacked: :sorry: no i know you guys do :dthumb: sometimes i just get agrivated that all :dthumb: :sorry:

I can tell you, as a former cop, it was sometimes difficult to recall history. You do so many different things in the course of a 10+ hour day and have to write reports for most of it. Then, these court dates are down the road. That's why it's important for the officer to do the same thing at every stop and write a detailed report. If it's not in the report, it didn't happen. They would try and schedule the court dates around our schedules, most of the time we could make it. Sometimes we could not. Once, I worked a 10 hour shift and had a court date 90 minutes after my shift ended. I was so tired, but stuck around. Not all officers would have. So, the officer may or may not make it. When he's there, I wouldn't count on him forgetting the incident, but I can tell you it is difficult to remember, at least it was for me. We used to have to go to records ahead of time and "prep" ourselves by going over the report so it was fresh in our minds.

My notes...hope they help. Learn About the Case Against You If you're going to fight a traffic ticket, you'll want to know as much as you can about the case against you. This article will help you obtain and understand the police officer's notes. Ever wondered what the officer who just ticketed you is doing, sitting in his patrol car after writing you up? He is probably writing notes -- something on the back of your ticket -- with details of why he ticketed you and what the conditions were at the time. Just before trial, he will typically review his notes, and sometimes refer to them while testifying. With courtroom experience, an officer can often glance down at his notes every few seconds, rattling off a narrative that sounds like he was recounting something that happened yesterday. But because the officer probably won't remember much about what happened and doesn't want to be tripped up fabricating a detail, most officers will depart very little from their notes. Get The Officer's Notes If you can obtain those notes before your traffic court trial, you may be able to glean the officer's strategy for convicting you. Fortunately, in many states you have the right to demand access to the officer's notes made at or soon after your ticket was issued through a process called "discovery." You also have the right to demand access to other information, like instruction manuals on the use of equipment that was used to clock your speed. This information can be a huge help when cross-examining the officer and presenting your own case at trial. To discover the officer's notes, you must make a specific written request for the disclosure of all notes or documents relevant to your case. If you have an arraignment, you may be able to do this there. But if, as is far more common, you plead not guilty and post bail without an arraignment, you'll need to make your request promptly by mail. Send your discovery request to both the police agency that ticketed you and to the local prosecuting agency. Ask your local court if you have the right of "discovery" and how to write a letter demanding access to the policeman's notes. If Your Discovery Request is Ignored Because so few defendants ask to see the evidence against them, many police, prosecutors, and even some judges, believe this "discovery right" is not available in traffic court. Accordingly, even though your discovery request is probably proper in your state, you may find it's ignored. If so, you'll need to persist in making this request, reiterating that you believe access to the officer's notes is critical to presenting your defense. If you get no response to your discovery request within three weeks, you will need to go to court and make a "pre-trial motion" to ask the judge to order the police to release the notes to you. Lawyers call this a "motion to compel discovery" or dismiss the case. Your best bet is to call or visit the court clerk to schedule this motion before your scheduled trial date. Failing this, it may be possible to have your motion to compel discovery considered on the day of your trial. Assuming a pretrial hearing to consider your discovery request is scheduled, be prepared to show the judge a copy of your written discovery request. Then ask him to formally order the prosecution or police agency to provide a copy of the officer's notes. Be sure to ask the judge to order that this be done prior to any scheduled trial date, so you have enough time to use them to prepare. If your discovery request has still been ignored when your trial date rolls around, you may want to ask the judge to dismiss your case. Here is sample language that, of course, will need to be adjusted to fit your facts: Your honor, the prosecution has failed to provide the discovery I properly requested ("and," if true, "that you ordered"). I move to dismiss the case on account of the prosecution's failure to provide discovery. Here is a copy of the written request I made a month ago for the officer's notes. I sent them to the prosecutor and police agency, and they both ignored me. I have not waived my right to a speedy trial, and I shouldn't have to. I can't properly prepare for trial even if the notes are produced now. As a result, I request that the charges against me be dismissed. If the following requirements are met, you may get your case dismissed at this point: * You are entitled to discovery under state law. * Your state has a speedy-trial law entitling you to trial within a certain period and you haven't given up the right to a speedy trial. * Postponing the trial to allow the prosecution to get the notes for you would require you to give up your right to a trial within the "speedy trial" time allowed. * You made your request for "discovery" promptly (and within any time limit). If the judge won't dismiss your case, renew your request right then that you be given a chance to examine the officer's notes. The judge should at least be willing to give you a few minutes to do this. What To Do With The Officer's Notes If you receive a copy of the officer's notes, you'll want to study them carefully. It's possible that these notes may cause you to re-evaluate your defense strategy, when you know what the officer is going to say at trial. Here are some things to look for: * Detail. If the officer's notes don't say much, he probably won't have much to say at trial, unless you gave him a reason to remember your specific case (a big reason why it's never wise to behave like an idiot when you are pulled over). On the other hand, the more detailed his notes (such as a fact-specific statement convincingly laying out what you did) the better he'll probably sound at trial. # What the Notes Don't Say. If the notes lack key details, you may be able to challenge the officer's memory. Look to see if the notes: o Mention which lane you were in. o Say exactly how the officer recorded your speed, if you were cited for speeding. (For example, if pacing was used, how far the officer paced you before stopping your vehicle.) o Have detailed specific information about road and weather conditions and other nearby vehicles. For example, if you were cited for an unsafe turn across traffic, the notes should detail the exact traffic situation justifying the officer's judgment call. o Report where the officer was when he observed you. * Diagrams. Police will often make a diagram on the ticket, especially with violations that occur at intersections, like running a stop sign or stoplight, unsafe turns or failure to yield. If the officer does a careful job of including significant details, he will probably look well prepared in court. If not, you have a better chance to raise a reasonable doubt as to your guilt by demonstrating through cross-examination that the officer can't honestly remember what happened. * Driver statements. Most officers will note any admissions made by the driver on pulling him or her over ("said she was going 70, asked for a break"), sometimes quoting them directly. ("Yes, I ran the stop sign, but my daughter's pet iguana was sick and I had to get her to the vet.") Of course, you are far better off if there are no such admissions written down.

Last ticket, over 10 yrs ago. 76 in a 55 - $312. All cause the cop was d@#khead and wrote it for 21 over doubling the fine. :puke:

Good notes Low... sure they weren't off my link... :D I've always been told these 2 things on top of many other things already mentioned... Don't be memerable to the cop... Always re-schedule your first court date...you're trying to get off that cops schedule. With out getting in the calibration of the equipment or the training of the cop those will help. I got clocked once before in Detroit going home from a WOS gathering... I was in the left lane doing about 77 in a 55... I seen the car in front of me (up a ways) hit their brakes and then my radar detector on my bike went off for laser and I seen the outline of a MSP officer... as I came by the rear of his vechicle (which was hiding in the dark under a overpass) he was getting in his car and his brake lights came on... figuring he was puttin her in gear to come after me.... I slowed down to about 70 then said "PISS ON THIS" I cracked her wide open and did about 150+ all the way home.... clearing some 15 miles in just over 7 min or somin like that... Next situation with speed on my bike and cops.... Gettin on M-5 near Grand River... with a RC51 of WOS... we both hit it on the h/w not knowing a cop was like 2 cars back... cop clocked the RC51 at 130 and said that he couldn't get a lock on me but that I was going well over 150 (which was very true)... he thought he lost the RC but caught up to him farther down the road... understand that neither of us knew he was there... he pulled over this RC51 and that's how I know the story. However, being a honest and true MC rider.. the RC51 never gave up the other biker! Yeah that RC guy rocks!!!

I thought this thread would be a flame fest. I'm glad to see so much great info. Gas kudos' to the RC rider. Coming home from the Gap on h/w 28 at 100+ We found a State Trooper setting on the side. The slowest rider almost got ran over buy him as he pulled out. He never gave us up and I think the cop gave him a break for almost taking him out. I know he was going almost as fast as the rest of us and only got a ticket for 69 in a 55.

Yeah... it's like a cardinal rule! When you get pulled over out of a group of riders... YOU DON'T KNOW ANYBODY!!!

Yeah... it's like a cardinal rule! When you get pulled over out of a group of riders... YOU DON'T KNOW ANYBODY!!! :iagree: