Playstation 3

Video for the next Kill Zone on PS3. More vids can also be found there. http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/vids_1.html http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614722/killzone-next-gen-20050516075936538.jpg http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614722/killzone-next-gen-20050516075937991.jpg Specs can be found here, it destroys XBox 360 in nearly every aspect. :crazy: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/37061 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050516/sfm178.html?.v=2 :crazy:

yeah, that's nice, but will it play Pong, or Asteroids?? :scratch:

Blah blah... I don't have time for stuff like that with all this :whore: I have to do!! :D

Yeah, I seen that clip for Kill Zone on G4 last night. It was very impressive. The XBOX 360 games they showcased were disappointing at best. Also, can't understand why Microsoft is designing the XBOX 360 to not be fully backwards compatible. It was funny watching the crowd (XBOX supporters) applaud/cheer when it was announced the XBOX 360 would be backwards compatible but...... They totaly missed the fact that he (guy making the announcment) said, "ONLY XBOX"S TOP SELLING GAMES WOULD BE BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE". They didn't bother to specify which titles (hmmm.....interesting.....maybe HALO only). The PS3 will be backwards compatible to the 1st generation games (sweet). I don't think Micorosoft will gain any advantage over Sony with the early launch of the XBOX 360.

The early launch doesn't mean anything, IMO. That's what Sega Dreamcast did and it got them nowhere. As for backwards compatability, I don't really care. I still have a ton of PS1 games and don't play any of them b/c they just don't compare to PS2. But, we'll see. The processor speed on the 3 is just nuts. Bumblebee, you can buy those games and plug them right into your tv. I think they're $12, but don't come with batteries. lol Gas Man, you're missing out mang. :crazy:

Sorry...I'm from the pinball generation...

Sorry...I'm from the pinball generation... I played pinball too, plus the Atari series, Coleco, Intellivision, Table Tops, Nintendos, Sega, etc., the list goes on and on up to my PS2. Gaming has come a long way....

Same here, I'm 31. We had the original Odyssey. . the POS with two white dots that bounce back and forth. Depending on what game you wanted to play, you had to change the static cling maze type deal to your tv screen. lol Then Odyssey 2, Intelevision, Nintendo, Genesis, PS1, Dreamcast, and PS2.

Gaming has definetely come a long way since I stared with an Atari playing Pitfall. I cant wait to see how the new PS3 does, but I still dont think it is going to match up to the graphics and gameplay on my custom PC. And for anybody that has EVER played Super Mario Bros. 3 for Nintendo, you have to watch this... This link will take you directly to the DL page. Just click on the Click here to DL. Link (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=moSMB3.wmv)

I was an avid PC gamer for years, travelled for tourneys, etc. The hardware on a console is dedicated, so no background programs running, etc. Plus you don't have to keep forking over $ to stay on top w/ the best memory, vid cards, etc, reformatting, all that. I'd just rather sit on the couch and play on a big screen than belly up to my PC anymore. Read the specs on the PS3, you're gonna have to spend a fortune to get that kind of performance out of a PC I'd think, especially on a 65" monitor. :crazy:

PigFace... I hate you for posting this... do you realize that I had to replace my keyboard :drool: Da-Jam-Mit :drool: :drool: Looks like I will not only be trading in my PS2 but my Xbox for this one, as well... Dang you PigFace.... I liked that keyboard... :lol: # Capable of handling seven Bluetooth controllers # WiFi capable :yikes: FOOTBALL!!! :pat:

Gaming has definetely come a long way since I stared with an Atari playing Pitfall. I cant wait to see how the new PS3 does, but I still dont think it is going to match up to the graphics and gameplay on my custom PC. And for anybody that has EVER played Super Mario Bros. 3 for Nintendo, you have to watch this... This link will take you directly to the DL page. Just click on the Click here to DL. Link (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=moSMB3.wmv) Checked out the link, didn't watch the entire 11 minutes but that is classic. Also, it was cool to time the jump on the turtle shell/step and get endless freemen. Pitfall, another classic, I always had a hard time timing the jumps from vine to vine. If you want a chuckle or a remeber when, there is old game show where contestants compete in question/anwers and play head to head on arcade games. I haven't seen it in awhile (approx. year) but there were re-runs of it on either G4 or the Game Show Network.

PigFace... I hate you for posting this... do you realize that I had to replace my keyboard :drool: Da-Jam-Mit :drool: :drool: Looks like I will not only be trading in my PS2 but my Xbox for this one, as well... Dang you PigFace.... I liked that keyboard... :lol: :yikes: FOOTBALL!!! :pat: :lol: I get the shakes when I think about just how cool Football will be. lol It supports 1080p, where as XBox 360 "only" supports 1080i. Looks like I'm gonna have to get a new tv. :rofl:

Checked out the link, didn't watch the entire 11 minutes but that is classic. Also, it was cool to time the jump on the turtle shell/step and get endless freemen. Pitfall, another classic, I always had a hard time timing the jumps from vine to vine. If you want a chuckle or a remeber when, there is old game show where contestants compete in question/anwers and play head to head on arcade games. I haven't seen it in awhile (approx. year) but there were re-runs of it on either G4 or the Game Show Network. I remember the endless free lives deal jumping on the turtles, as well as Pitfall on Intelevision. :lol: Hell, Duck Hunt is still one of the coolest games ever too, but the light guns don't work on rear projection tvs these days. :(

Having old game swork on new systems it the only way to go. Good game sare more thatn great graphics, they are great game play. I still keep a NES "antique" around just because it has some of the most fun games on it.

The only game that I really will play over and over is EA Sports NCAA football. There are some other great ones out there, but sports games generally keep my interest longer.

I only play sports games, arcade/simulation racing, and action adventure (i.e Metal Gears/Splinter Cells/Mafia/Getaways/Hitmans, etc.). Those are the genre's that keep my attention.

I loved Metal Gear Solid, but linear games eventually bore me. So, Gran Turismo, the Grand Theft Autos, and all sorts of sports games are the ones I stick with. Some of the shooters are cool, but they just don't compare to the ones on PC. However, I'll be all about Kill Zone on PS3. lol

I still play pinball machines... :wink:

Just another gimmic (much like M*crosoft) to make more money off hard working people cause you know all the little kiddies will see them and then want that! How much they gonna retail for like $300?-$400? I mean, that's like a steering stabilizer for my new R6, I'd rather that. Get much more use out of it than a PS3. I have an XBOX and barely play that!

Flip the coin graff, kids without a bike would rather a system than a steering stabilizer for a R6. :2cents:

o u bet i will be getting the GF to get me ps3 for xmas when it comes out. casue that shiot in HD quality is going to be the shiot big time.

Just another gimmic (much like M*crosoft) to make more money off hard working people cause you know all the little kiddies will see them and then want that! How much they gonna retail for like $300?-$400? I mean, that's like a steering stabilizer for my new R6, I'd rather that. Get much more use out of it than a PS3. I have an XBOX and barely play that! F' that, I'm getting one. 65 inches of fun. :D Besides, you can't enjoy the steering damper when you're hanging out with friends drinking beer. lol

Hey, I am planning on getting one as well. I already told the wife expect to see me camping out to get my hands on one.

anyone know if the ps3 will come with actual HD hook ups?

anyone know if the ps3 will come with actual HD hook ups? You mean component cables? I wouldn't count on it. However, I hear the XBox360 is all 720p and 1080i which leaves me to believe those are the only cables that will work. If so, people with normal tvs are screwed. . :confused: Hopefully the component cables I have for my PS2 now will work since it's a proprietary deal. On the G4 channel (geek channel that shows mainly games, computers, etc) they're doing a deal at E3 this week. They're showing all kinds of cool stuff.

i mean like HDMI cables, i have the monster components now and they better work but thats still not True HD. and HDMI cables are cost even more than component.

They're good for 1080i and less. . there's nothing in a 1080p format right now to justify getting them that I've seen. But, I seriously doubt they'll come with the cables.

ah yeas there is something that can justify it, its a samsung DVD player that used HDMI and comes with the cable, but its still only shows them in 1080i, and i forgot to buy it at my discount b4 i quit Circuit city. but i thought the ps3 was gonna be 1080p?

DVDs are 480p, however, some players up-convert.. Yes, the PS3 will be 1080p and the 360 will be 1080i. As far as I've heard, only the 3rd gen DLP sets have 1080p. . ?

yeah but component cables wont actually give you HD in order to get HD you need th HDMI hookup for the best possible quality. not sure if my tv uses true 1080p or not, i know it has a thingy called virtualHD to try and get 1080p out of nothing but i dont know, know is when i wish i was at home.

It may not be as clear as HDMI, but it is definitely true HD. There's no comparison between 480p and 720p, much less 1080i if your set is calibrated. You're right, though, I should hook up through HDMI. On a side note, I noticed a big difference on my PS2 when I switched from S Video to Components. Still, it's not HD, only 480p I think.

yes the component cables make a huge difference and if ps3 will let ur hook it up using HDMI watch out casue i have seen the dvd players that just give it a 1080i look and its really nice. if it hooks up HDMI there will be a big difference. now only if they give us the damn cable with it. this is also a reason that pc games usually have better graphics becaseu they can use higher resolutions and shiot, now if ps3 and xbox alow you to use better resolution its gonna kick arse.

The xbox 360 will rule all.

There's only one LITTLE problem with the Killzone 2 video. It IS NOT legit. It's actually a video Sony hired an outside company to make, to give an 'idea' of what the game MAY look like on the PS3. Article at IGN (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/616/616591p1.html) Important point to highlight from article: Is the Killzone sequence a fair example of what people can expect from realtime gameplay on PlayStation 3? Jan-Bart: Yeah, it's basically a representation of the look and feel of the game we're trying to make. Sony so desperately wanted to make a splash at the E3, but the PS3 isn't done yet, while the new Xbox is on it's way, that vids had to be made for their games. This includes the new Madden, which may not look anything like the vid they've shown around, to Killzone 2. Always remember kids, "buyer beware"!! :dthumb: "And knowing is half the battle!!" Disclaimer: Yours truly has already reserved his Xbox360

It only took me two years to get a PS2. I doughty Ill ever get the new any game station. :skep:

F' that, I'm getting one. 65 inches of fun. :D Besides, you can't enjoy the steering damper when you're hanging out with friends drinking beer. lol Pigface, That's where your wrong, well I should say where you were misguided in your youth. LITTLE BOYS drink beer! MEN drink the HARD STUFF! But when I have people over, it usually turns into watching a movie and drinking since I have like 600+ watt surround sound and over 450DVDs. Or it'll turn into everyone passing out cause they always ask me to mix my special drinks for them. Pheonix, I'm with you on that one anyways. If I'm gonna get a new system, although I completely dispise M*crosoft, I'd go with the XBOX360. I don't like the way Sony makes their controllers, they dig into my hands if I play too long. PLUS, Playstation doesn't have HALO...Now what is a gaming system without HALO? :smash: :smash:

I own both a PS2 and a Xbox, but I find myself playing the Xbox more. All because of Xbox Live. Live makes up at least 50% of the Xbox experience. If you don't play online, you aren't really getting all you can out of your Xbox. Case in point, end of the month Moto GP3 comes out. Not only can you race in GP races now, but you can race in the cities that the GP races take place in. All online of course. I can't wait! Moto GP3 Preview (http://xbox.ign.com/articles/582/582867p1.html?fromint=1) My Live membership carries over with the new Xbox360, and when PS3 finally rolls out, the chance to play Halo3 online will be here.

yes the component cables make a huge difference and if ps3 will let ur hook it up using HDMI watch out casue i have seen the dvd players that just give it a 1080i look and its really nice. if it hooks up HDMI there will be a big difference. now only if they give us the damn cable with it. this is also a reason that pc games usually have better graphics becaseu they can use higher resolutions and shiot, now if ps3 and xbox alow you to use better resolution its gonna kick arse. My Mitsu HDTV is 4 years old and doesn't have an HDMI hook up. Looks like I'll be going DLP next year. lol

The xbox 360 will rule all. Read the specs, it won't even deserve to be on the same shelf. 2 Teraflops for the PS3. Graffix, I use the beer just to keep the pallet wet. Vodka is to keep the liver pickled. :lol: I've got 200 something dvds, but stopped buying them since 99% of the movies seem to be crap and I never watch them again. As for XBox live, it's cool. I used to be an avid online PC gaming junkie and just got tired of all the bs. Cheats, hacks, etc.

very nice tv there pigface, bet u that cost a pretty penny back in its day. i just got mine like a year ago, its a Hitachi ultravision and for projections its the shizzle its got HDMI. got it when i worked at Circuit city, discount i couldent pass up. And my opinion is that Xbox sucks and my reason is that the only good game for it is Halo. and i personally dont like halo or any game where the gameplay is fake. I am a PS2 fan and i knwo the xbox might have been a little better but the ps3 will dominate all especially if it gets 1080p, most of you dont know what that is but it will make the graphics look completely real. i personally love the ps2 controller and hate xbox, xbox controller is way too big. and Socom 2 is still the best game for ps2 online. and you dont have to pay to play online right now.

Read the specs, it won't even deserve to be on the same shelf. 2 Teraflops for the PS3. Graffix, I use the beer just to keep the pallet wet. Vodka is to keep the liver pickled. :lol: I've got 200 something dvds, but stopped buying them since 99% of the movies seem to be crap and I never watch them again. As for XBox live, it's cool. I used to be an avid online PC gaming junkie and just got tired of all the bs. Cheats, hacks, etc. Ive read what everyone said and I've read everything there is to know about both consoles. Even though I'm an xbox girlie I will give the facts straight. The PS3 wins in the brute force department. its cell processor is definitely "revolutionary" but it is also new, and therefore wont be perfect. The 360 on the other hand has much less processing power but uses a liquid cooled version of the traditional processor, creating a more stable operating environment. In the GPU department the consoles appear to be almost equal. So at the moment that isn't exactly a topic open for debate. The two different CD drives are interesting. BLUray is definitely a more powerful format coming in at around 54 gig and talk of expansion up to 200. But the only blu ray players released (japan only) at the moment cost $4000 U.S. which could dramatically affect the cost of the console. The 360's Double Layer DVD's can hold around 9 gig, but there is also talk of expansion for them. The 360 also doubles as a media station, playing photo Cd's mp3 Cd's and the like making it more practical. Connectivity wise the PlayStation has more ports and supports more controllers. The odd number of controllers confuses me, if it were 8 you could have multiplayer running on two TVs with two teams of 4. The 360 supports media players like ipods and can connect with your home PC and all games must have custom sound tracks. I also looked into the two controller types, the bluetooth uses battery ALOT faster. The xbox comes across as a very user friendly console, out of the box Internet access which allows you to send and receive text messages and use voice chat, you can also view yours and others profiles and update EVERY game (its compulsory). With the upgrade to gold for around $50 you can play online games and get trailers demons and movies as well. The 360 comes with a camera and headset. Sony has yet to announce their online service. The xbox also boasts the interesting light on the front. Tt informs the player of different things like whether they are signed onto live and how many controllers are connected, very user friendly. The 360 also comes with a remote which allows you to turn the console on and off and use the media player and play DVDs. Sony's main advantage in the previous battle was some very influential titles, such as final fantasy (available on 360) and gran turismo. Sony has lost that edge in the next generation. I myself will be buying the 360 as soon as i possibly can. Oh yeah and the PlayStation controller is the stupidest thing I've ever seen, the 360s is an obvious improvement.

Video for the next Kill Zone on PS3. More vids can also be found there. http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/vids_1.html http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614722/killzone-next-gen-20050516075936538.jpg http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614722/killzone-next-gen-20050516075937991.jpg Specs can be found here, it destroys XBox 360 in nearly every aspect. :crazy: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/37061 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050516/sfm178.html?.v=2 :crazy: hey i got to start saving up right now then lol

Always remember, the specs as delivered by the company line can be suspect. They've been 'suspected' by of course someone who works for M$, Major Nelson goes into detail on the specs of PS3 VS. Xbox360. Major Nelson's review (http://www.majornelson.com/) CONCLUSION When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment. Also, Live for the most part doesn't have the cheats of regular PC play. Xbox doesn't support Gamesharks or game modifying programs, so when you get online any 'cheat' or such is something you can do as well. There's also enough people online that if you don't like who you're playing with, you can find some decent sorts. Live as an online component works very well. Sony didn't even consider it worthy of notice, till they saw the success Xbox had with it. NOW they want to consider it in their plans. Something else to consider, you may want to start saving for the PS3 yesterday... An annual report into the games industry published by Wedbrush Morgan Securities has suggested that added media functions in PlayStation 3 could push its launch price up to $500, alienating many consumers in the process. Analyst report on PS3 pricing (http://uk.codejunkies.com/news_reviews.asp?c=GB&cr=GBP&cs=%A3&r=1&l=1&i=7659&p=1&s=7) I stick with, if you can afford an Xbox 360 (Which you may want to reserve now, there maybe shortages ) get one. If you can afford another system in the next year, PS3 will be out sometime in 2006, either the same time as the PSP this year, tax time/the end of the Sony's financial year, or November next year.

As stated before, I'll stick with Xbox. Now I gotta call my friend and see if he can get me one at cost price!

As stated before, I'll stick with Xbox. Now I gotta call my friend and see if he can get me one at cost price! :iagree: and think your friend should get me one at cost too :whistle: :lol:

:iagree: and think your friend should get me one at cost too :whistle: :lol: I can see if you want me to? I emailed him about the price and told him that I had the old Xbox to trade in for some money off. It's up to you though, I don't really think he'll care.

I can see if you want me to? I emailed him about the price and told him that I had the old Xbox to trade in for some money off. It's up to you though, I don't really think he'll care. That would be awesome!!!! :thumbs: ...I just sold my old Xbox on Ebay...it was having some issues with the disc drive and I just didnt have the time/patience to mess with it.

That would be awesome!!!! :thumbs: ...I just sold my old Xbox on Ebay...it was having some issues with the disc drive and I just didnt have the time/patience to mess with it. Ok, I'll let you know when he emails me with the price. If I don't hear from him by like Wendsday, I'm gonna call him anyways. I'll let you know beautiful.

For what I understood from my friends at the local game store, M$ hasn't settled on the price of the 360 yet, officially. There are many guesses that it will start at $299 and a version with the hard drive maybe $399. No one knows for sure as M$ has until November to release that info, and has other info they want to get out about the 360 before then.

Ok, I'll let you know when he emails me with the price. If I don't hear from him by like Wendsday, I'm gonna call him anyways. I'll let you know beautiful. Thanks hun :hug:

Gurlie, aside from the camera, everything you mentioned the XBox having, the PS3 has. PS3 is a full blown media station as well with plug-ins for just about everything. As for the Gran Turismo series, how can you say PS2 has lost its advantage in that genre? Forza is good, but it's still crap compared to GT4. The big green light on top of the 360 controller may be appealing to you, but a lot of people would rather have a controller that's functional and easy to use, like the PS2/PS3 controller. WiFi and Blue Tooth on the PS3. XBox has Halo, and that's it. No Grand Theft Auto until nearly a year later, no Gran Turismo, and they're EA Sports games are hand-me-downs from Playstation's. EA Sports builds their games for PS, not the other way around. XBox, although currently a stronger system, is getting its ass kicked all over the market b/c the games on it pale in comparison. They're going to launch early with an massively inferior system. Obviously they learned nothing from the Dreamcast. As for cost, it will be inline with the market. Sony has been on top for 10 years b/c they know what the hell they're doing.

Also, Live for the most part doesn't have the cheats of regular PC play. Xbox doesn't support Gamesharks or game modifying programs, so when you get online any 'cheat' or such is something you can do as well. There's also enough people online that if you don't like who you're playing with, you can find some decent sorts. Live as an online component works very well. Sony didn't even consider it worthy of notice, till they saw the success Xbox had with it. NOW they want to consider it in their plans. If you don't think there are cheats and hacks with online consoles, I have a bridge to sell you. Sony has already said they didn't push the online aspect b/c the market wasn't ready for it. It's still barely ready when you consider less than half of the people that play consoles have broadband. So, Sony focused on making games through 1st and 3rd party that are actually fun to play. XBox didn't, and that's why PS2 still can't keep up with the market share and why you see XBox sitting on shelves.

You cant use the Gameshark for ps2 online, as soon as they realized that ppl where using it they patched all the games so you cant. which does not matter casue all games have glitches that everyone can do and there ususally better then the gamesharks if you know how to do them. but then agian ps2 also sends out updates to stop theses also.

There will always be exploits, etc. I just don't care about playing online. . if I'm going to play online, I'll be on my PC. I'm hooked up wireless and could if I wanted to, I just don't care too. Although, I may have to hook up the PSP and see how that is.

The Dreamcast argument means nothing because Sega went into that battle with a horrible track record. But your "coming out first" argument does apply to the PS2 in comparasion to the Xbox and gamecube which have better graphics and specs than the PS2. However the PS2 didnt need better graphics or specs to win the fight. They had a one year head start and built on their fan base from the original PS....and the Xbox360 will do the same.

The Dreamcast argument means nothing because Sega went into that battle with a horrible track record. But your "coming out first" argument does apply to the PS2 in comparasion to the Xbox and gamecube which have better graphics and specs than the PS2. However the PS2 didnt need better graphics or specs to win the fight. They had a one year head start and built on their fan base from the original PS....and the Xbox360 will do the same. She's so smart. I luv her! Will you marry me? :hug:

If you don't think there are cheats and hacks with online consoles, I have a bridge to sell you. Sony has already said they didn't push the online aspect b/c the market wasn't ready for it. It's still barely ready when you consider less than half of the people that play consoles have broadband. So, Sony focused on making games through 1st and 3rd party that are actually fun to play. XBox didn't, and that's why PS2 still can't keep up with the market share and why you see XBox sitting on shelves. Can I have a say in that bridge? With Live, there are exploits, there will always be. It's impossible to make a game and cover every exploit. But as far as cheats go, there have been very few. Not like the many that were on PS2 online games like Socom, D&D, and more. The fact that Xbox doesn't support gamesharks and only saved game files, goes a long way to stop those cheats. After playing for the last two years online, I can tell you of 2 games ( Wolfenstein & Rainbow Six ) that had hacks/cheats that worked. Other games have had nothing more than exploits, that in all fairness, you the player could also take advantage of. If you can tell me some other games you played on Live that had working cheats ( not exploits ), I'd like to hear of them. Also it is your opinion on what game's are crap on Xbox, but great on PS2, such as Forza & GT4. I will tell you though that a large number of PS2 fans were quite upset when the online component for GT4 was lost & supposedly going to be put in later as a seperate game, while Forza has become a very popular online Live game. Have you seen the Batarang/sexual device that passes for the PS3 controller? That's better? You're the only PS fan that I've heard from that likes that controller. Lastly, the Xbox stopped getting it's ass kicked by PS2 shortly before Halo 2 came out. It's actually been the other way around, which is what led to Ken Kutagari being demoted from head of the Electronics & games division. I've never been a big fan of these fanboy arguements over which system is better. I simply just get both and appreciate both for what they can do. PS2 has a greater selection of games built in from their early advantage, but Xbox has the best online system made to date and has been a blast. As I've said before, I'll be getting both next gen systems as they come out.

She's so smart. I luv her! Will you marry me? :hug: *blush* Any day....any time :hug:

*blush* Any day....any time :hug: Really? Great...Wonderful even...I hope you like a wedding in Aruba?

Really? Great...Wonderful even...I hope you like a wedding in Aruba? Ohh I can work on my tan and get married in the same day! Sounds like a plan! :dthumb:

The Dreamcast argument means nothing because Sega went into that battle with a horrible track record. But your "coming out first" argument does apply to the PS2 in comparasion to the Xbox and gamecube which have better graphics and specs than the PS2. However the PS2 didnt need better graphics or specs to win the fight. They had a one year head start and built on their fan base from the original PS....and the Xbox360 will do the same. You need to read up on who's signed on with PS to build games and get back to me on that. :lol: JMax, for all intents and purposes, it doesn't matter if it's a cheat, hack, or exploit.