Browns' Winslow to undergo knee surgery

And now they tell us what we already new...another squid bites the pavement... BEREA, Ohio (AP) - Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. reportedly injured his kidney and liver while attempting stunts on his high-powered motorcycle last month. He will undergo surgery Tuesday on the right knee he tore up in the accident. Winslow tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee when he crashed his motorcycle into a parking lot curb at 35 mph. The 21-year-old was hospitalized for nine days after being thrown over the handlebars. In his first interview since the accident, Winslow told the Akron Beacon Journal that he lacerated his liver and kidney, bruised his right shoulder and cracked a bone in his upper right leg in the crash, in addition to the torn knee ligament. He said all of his injuries have healed except for his knee. He added he was aware that riding a motorcycle is listed as a hazardous activity in his contract. "I'm grown. I still have to live my life," Winslow told the newspaper. "I did know the circumstances behind it, but I'm still learning. I'm young. You think you're invincible. You think nothing's going to happen to you. It was a mistake." On the opening day of Cleveland's minicamp, Browns coach Romeo Crennel said Winslow will miss the entire 2005 season - the first time the team has been allowed to reveal that information because of federal privacy laws. "Hopefully he'll have a good repair," Crennel said, "and we'll get him back on the field at some point, whenever that is." Wearing a brace on his knee and a backward Cleveland Indians' cap, Winslow watched intently from the sideline as the Browns practiced. Now that he has missed a mandatory team event, the team can begin asking for a portion of the $4.4 million bonus he was paid in March. The Browns have not yet informed Winslow that they will ask him to return some of the money. Based on his experience with other players, Crennel said Winslow will likely need nine months to recover from the operation. At the time of his accident, Winslow was still rehabbing a broken right leg that he suffered in his second game as a rookie. "He is back to square one," Crennel said. "He'll be where he was last year, having to rehab an injury. Hopefully at this time next year he'll be back on the field. Hopefully we'll have a player then." Winslow, who bought the motorcycle in April, said he is going to be back and told the Beacon Journal he has no desire to play anywhere else. "My back's up against the wall," he said, "and I'm going to get stronger." Cleveland traded a second-round pick to move up one spot and select Winslow with the No. 6 overall pick in the 2004 NFL draft. But Winslow, who briefly held out of training camp in a contract dispute, made just five catches before breaking his ankle while trying recover an onside kick in Week 2 at Dallas and missing the final 14 games. "He's a good friend of everyone in here," said tight end Steve Heiden. "I've got nothing but positive things to say about him." Winslow has expressed remorse to Crennel and his teammates for the motorcycle crash, and also told the Beacon Journal he regretted what happened. "You know, I am sorry for what I've done," he said. "A lot of people have motorcycles, but since I got hurt, I'm sorry."

Its just sad to see a guy that had everything in the palm of his hands throw away 4.4 million.. :nonod:

money does not buy invincibility...With great rewards come great responsibilities...something today's young people don't seem to understand. Michael Jordan is the perfect example. In his interview with Greg White he said that no matter how much he loved motorcycles, he couldn't even look at one when he was playing, because he knew he would be on one.

Exactly Bee... daymn kids these days! :D

Its just sad to see a guy that had everything in the palm of his hands throw away 4.4 million.. :nonod: That sucks that he got hurt, but hey, the Browns aren't good anyways so...Well, it won't make a difference!

Well maybe, but the problem is that you got these young kids (lower 20's) making millions and screwin it all up over somin stupid!

Well maybe, but the problem is that you got these young kids (lower 20's) making millions and screwin it all up over somin stupid! That is true. But then again, professional sports has become all about the money anyways. I mean, like wouldn't it be nice if the salary cap for ALL pro sports was like $250,000 a year? I mean, that's what the president of the United States makes, granted with MANY, MANY, MANY perks but still it ain't like pro sports players don't get free cars, huge discounted houses, etc. If they lowered the salary cap to like that level, then people may actually want to play for the love of the game and not solely for the money. How long has it been since you HONESTLY heard a player say that he/she plays for the love of the game and for their fans? I'm talking like sports where they get paid $500,000 or better ?

That is true. But then again, professional sports has become all about the money anyways. I mean, like wouldn't it be nice if the salary cap for ALL pro sports was like $250,000 a year? I mean, that's what the president of the United States makes, granted with MANY, MANY, MANY perks but still it ain't like pro sports players don't get free cars, huge discounted houses, etc. If they lowered the salary cap to like that level, then people may actually want to play for the love of the game and not solely for the money. How long has it been since you HONESTLY heard a player say that he/she plays for the love of the game and for their fans? I'm talking like sports where they get paid $500,000 or better ? WTF :crazy: If an employer is going to pay you $5 million a year for your skills, would you turn it down? Owners are guility ones, not players ;) Big deal Winslow crashed on his bike, its only money out of his pocket. Using logic posted to this thread, any bike rider who has family to support better not be riding motorcycles.

WTF :crazy: If an employer is going to pay you $5 million a year for your skills, would you turn it down? Owners are guility ones, not players ;) Big deal Winslow crashed on his bike, its only money out of his pocket. Using logic posted to this thread, any bike rider who has family to support better not be riding motorcycles. Well Duh!! Some people have go out and work to support their families, they don't get to live off Daddy's money. For most people, a crash and injury like Winslow's, where they couldn't work, could cost them their jobs, homes, just about everything...Many insurance companies won't pay if you get hurt on a motorcycle...Not too many families can afford 30 to 50K in medical bills...Do you practice being dense, or does it just come naturally??

Well Duh!! Some people have go out and work to support their families, they don't get to live off Daddy's money. For most people, a crash and injury like Winslow's, where they couldn't work, could cost them their jobs, homes, just about everything...Many insurance companies won't pay if you get hurt on a motorcycle...Not too many families can afford 30 to 50K in medical bills...Do you practice being dense, or does it just come naturally?? :iagree:

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Well Duh!! Some people have go out and work to support their families, they don't get to live off Daddy's money. For most people, a crash and injury like Winslow's, where they couldn't work, could cost them their jobs, homes, just about everything...Many insurance companies won't pay if you get hurt on a motorcycle...Not too many families can afford 30 to 50K in medical bills...Do you practice being dense, or does it just come naturally?? :scratch: Mojority of riders who ride risking, jobs, home take that risk just like Winslow did ;)

Well Duh!! Some people have go out and work to support their families, they don't get to live off Daddy's money. For most people, a crash and injury like Winslow's, where they couldn't work, could cost them their jobs, homes, just about everything...Many insurance companies won't pay if you get hurt on a motorcycle...Not too many families can afford 30 to 50K in medical bills...Do you practice being dense, or does it just come naturally?? That's why I'm planning on living off my $150,000 wellfare check! :wink: :lol:

:scratch: Mojority of riders who ride risking, jobs, home take that risk just like Winslow did ;) So what you're saying is that there is a huge majority of squids out there willing to risk millions of dollars in wages to get a few pieces of fun.... UM OK!

So what you're saying is that there is a huge majority of squids out there willing to risk millions of dollars in wages to get a few pieces of fun.... UM OK! Well, that could be true. I know two people that got litre bikes or larger as their first bike, having never been on one either. One, with a 'busa, flew across the road, hit a guard rail sending the bike into the trees and it pretty much snapped in half. That was the day he picked it up from the dealer on his way out of the dealer parking lot! Another, well he was trying to go down the highway at like 150+ and well, lost it, that slid into the cement median and probably slid down the highway some like 200+ yards, along with him. So yeah, there are people out there that are squidtards doing stupid things with their money.

So what you're saying is that there is a huge majority of squids out there willing to risk millions of dollars in wages to get a few pieces of fun.... UM OK! Worse, huge mojority of people willing to risk family security riding bikes :mad: If I had my way, to get motorcycle license you must have proof of full unlimited medical coverage. Along with insurance policy to privide for your family if you are not financially secure. Now who's more stupid Winslow who already has $millions. Joe biker with wife at home along with two kids. With limited or no medical insurance, no accidental insurance????

Worse, huge mojority of people willing to risk family security riding bikes :mad: If I had my way, to get motorcycle license you must have proof of full unlimited medical coverage. Along with insurance policy to privide for your family if you are not financially secure. Now who's more stupid Winslow who already has $millions. Joe biker with wife at home along with two kids. With limited or no medical insurance, no accidental insurance???? Is that a trick question?

Is that a trick question? Wished it was. Mojority of riders need to take responsiblity for risks that go along with bike riding :dthumb: Most riders not looking at big picture. :nonod:

Wished it was. Mojority of riders need to take responsiblity for risks that go along with bike riding :dthumb: Most riders not looking at big picture. :nonod: I do, that's why when I got the insurance for my bike I also got a $25,000 life insurance policy. Although I know it won't bring me back, at least any thing that needs to be done will be able to be done between that and my trust fund.

Insurance is a wonderful thing for those of us with out millions. My wife would do well finically when I leave and vise versa.

Insurance is a wonderful thing for those of us with out millions. My wife would do well finically when I leave and vise versa. That ain't right man. That's like sayin' your gonna kick the bucket. I'll miss ya Jeeps, don't go. I'll have nobody to :whore: with since I'll pass 636's post count this week!

We will all kick the bucket sooner or later. Today, tomorrow or 50+ years from know.

We will all kick the bucket sooner or later. Today, tomorrow or 50+ years from know. True, so true. That's why I like my dads and my philosophy of "Why save money when you can die in your sleep?" I mean, don't get me wrong, I do save, but I just don't see the point in like having thousands and thousands in the bank and when I see something I want, I don't buy it cause I'm "saving". Hell now, I'm gonna buy it!

True, so true. That's why I like my dads and my philosophy of "Why save money when you can die in your sleep?" I mean, don't get me wrong, I do save, but I just don't see the point in like having thousands and thousands in the bank and when I see something I want, I don't buy it cause I'm "saving". Hell now, I'm gonna buy it! You will be broke for ever!

You will be broke for ever! Bills paid, family provided for, that's all that matters. I still save, just not like thousands and thousands of dollars. I'd rather have it now than in the back when I'm dead.! What is it gonna do for me there when that happens?

Jetski... I like Jeeps responses...so I'll take one of those!!

Bills paid, family provided for, that's all that matters. I still save, just not like thousands and thousands of dollars. I'd rather have it now than in the back when I'm dead.! What is it gonna do for me there when that happens? If you died tomorrow, are you telling me your house would be paid for and your family wouldn't have to sell it to survive? Do you have your childrens' educations taken care of? Have you even looked far enough foreward to realize how foolish you sound??? News flash!!! Thousands and thousands of dollars won't do it...you'll need hundreds of thousands of dollars... really have much to learn, you do, young Jaywalker...

Hey put this mfr high up in your draft card for the TWF league.. lol.. I know at some point during this season I will get some sucker to trade me a good player for Winslow.. What a moron.. He pisses away all that money being a squid.. I hope he never plays again and he has to work a real job like the rest of us slugs.. You will be able to pick him out a mile away because he will be the one crying like a little girl all day because real work is too "hard"..

If you died tomorrow, are you telling me your house would be paid for and your family wouldn't have to sell it to survive? Do you have your childrens' educations taken care of? Have you even looked far enough foreward to realize how foolish you sound??? News flash!!! Thousands and thousands of dollars won't do it...you'll need hundreds of thousands of dollars... really have much to learn, you do, young Jaywalker... Bee, I have a trust fund that is well over $250,000. In January when I did my taxes, I believe it was actually around $300,000-$325,000 so I think they will be fine along with the $25,000 life insurance policy.

ONe can not have too much life insurance as long as the benifiary doesn't know how much!! :D

Bee, I have a trust fund that is well over $250,000. In January when I did my taxes, I believe it was actually around $300,000-$325,000 so I think they will be fine along with the $25,000 life insurance policy. Mighty proud of you.. Want a cookie? Last one to go on the cookie has to eat it..

Mighty proud of you.. Want a cookie? Last one to go on the cookie has to eat it.. No, don't want a cookie MP. Not really into sweets, thanks anyways. I um guess it's bad now to have a family that looks after the well-being of their offspring.?

ONe can not have too much life insurance as long as the benifiary doesn't know how much!! :D Lack.of.trust.

No, don't want a cookie MP. Not really into sweets, thanks anyways. I um guess it's bad now to have a family that looks after the well-being of their offspring.? Grafixx01, great to see your family looked after you :cheers: Internet you are going find lots of jealous people if you come from $. Just ignore them :dthumb:

Lack.of.trust. No it's a joke.... you never tell the wife how much your worth dead or she might lace your morning coffee. Or if you're a real prick you just don't get any so that you have the last laugh!

Bee, I have a trust fund that is well over $250,000. In January when I did my taxes, I believe it was actually around $300,000-$325,000 so I think they will be fine along with the $25,000 life insurance policy. That's not enough...If your family had to cash it in, it would provide 30K per year for 10 years...I'm sure they plan on living longer than that...And if they could get 5% it will pay 15K per year...that won't make a house payment here in Tally, let alone taxes, insurance, utilities, food or clothes...They estimate 100K for a college degree now...what will it be in 15 years when it's time to pay for that...you don't have enough...you might want to rethink your spending/saving priorities

But it is a great deal better than what most people...young people and old people, leave behind.

Furthermore... I guess somebody will have to get a damn JOB instead of trying to live off their dead dad's life insurance money!! Oh, I'm :sorry: NOT! There are too many people that just want things handed to them...well in the real world it don't happen that way. So what if he only leaves his family $300K I guess they'll have to make due with $300K that they never earned! My rant isn't at Bee but all the lifeless, no good, lazy POS' of the world!

Furthermore... I guess somebody will have to get a damn JOB instead of trying to live off their dead dad's life insurance money!! Oh, I'm :sorry: NOT! There are too many people that just want things handed to them...well in the real world it don't happen that way. So what if he only leaves his family $300K I guess they'll have to make due with $300K that they never earned! My rant isn't at Bee but all the lifeless, no good, lazy POS' of the world! :iagree: Very well said

yeah thanks! 92