JK_DILLA
09-03-2005, 11:25 PM
So we do get the ER 6n, but its the Ninja 650R here and it has full fairings.
motorcycle daily article (http://motorcycledaily.com/31august05_2006kawasaki_ninja650r.htm)
http://motorcycledaily.com/083105top_650.jpg
Ninja 650R (ER-6n)JK_DILLA 09-03-2005, 11:25 PM So we do get the ER 6n, but its the Ninja 650R here and it has full fairings.
motorcycle daily article (http://motorcycledaily.com/31august05_2006kawasaki_ninja650r.htm)
http://motorcycledaily.com/083105top_650.jpg pickle.of.doom 09-04-2005, 12:25 PM Sweet, I like it! Curve 09-04-2005, 03:09 PM I like the silver and dark red color scheme. Can't wait to see that on the street someday. For that matter, can't wait to see it in my garage somday. :wink: Gas Man 09-04-2005, 09:07 PM I like! :drool: Any stats on it?
Another pic...
http://motorcycledaily.com/083105bottom_650.jpg Curve 09-04-2005, 09:37 PM I just noticed what an interersting exhaust that bike has. Is there piping leading to a canister or does it exit just under the bike where that hole is? Gas Man 09-05-2005, 08:30 AM Its under the bike...just in front of the back tire...kinda like a Buell.... keeps the CG (center of gravity) lower and therefor the bike should turn in better... JK_DILLA 09-05-2005, 10:40 AM Cant find any "first rides". Wonder if its the SV kiler that they say it is. I will say that the headlights are way cleaner than the ER-6n. Now lets see how much character they pulled from a parallel twin. jeeps84 09-05-2005, 01:07 PM Great looking bike. Its a wide open market and should cut into Suzuki's sales. Gas Man 09-05-2005, 01:44 PM :withstupi larryg 09-06-2005, 08:22 PM Kawasaki's dealer show is next week...I'll let you know if there is any more info on it.
Larry JK_DILLA 09-07-2005, 07:23 PM Kawasaki's dealer show is next week...I'll let you know if there is any more info on it.
Larry
please do! jeeps84 09-08-2005, 12:36 AM Kawasaki's dealer show is next week...I'll let you know if there is any more info on it.
Larry
We need tons of info on the thing. larryg 09-17-2005, 08:00 PM Hey guys, just got back. Good looking bike in person, lots of nice details on it. Not many specs were available yet but we were told that they tested the bike head-to-head on the track with the SV650 and everybody did better on the Kawi. My initial impression is that the bike seems larger than the sv but it has been a while since I rode one. Price looks like it will be competitive and could end up as a good entry-level bike just above the EX500 who's design is showing its age. It will be interesting to see if it does as well as we think it will.
Larry JK_DILLA 09-17-2005, 10:03 PM Hey guys, just got back. Good looking bike in person, lots of nice details on it. Not many specs were available yet but we were told that they tested the bike head-to-head on the track with the SV650 and everybody did better on the Kawi. My initial impression is that the bike seems larger than the sv but it has been a while since I rode one. Price looks like it will be competitive and could end up as a good entry-level bike just above the EX500 who's design is showing its age. It will be interesting to see if it does as well as we think it will.
Larry
thanks larry. With the SV's price piont its hard to beat in that range. And carrys a strong cult following. If the 650R meets or beats it then kawi has a winner. I cant wait to see these things mix it up on the track. Larry whats your opinion on the swingarm? Its braced but doesnt look like much... what do you think Gas Man 09-18-2005, 12:36 AM Good info Larry! Thanks as always!
Do we really see the end of the EX500? :yikes: It has been a Kaw mark in the industry for a long time! larryg 09-18-2005, 09:50 PM For starters, the EX500 isn't gone...heck the EX250 is in its 20th year now IIRC. I just think its size and price will make the 650 available to entry-level riders.
Overall, I liked the design of the bike. In fact, I think it is a shame the frame is hidden by the bodywork. The swingarm isn't particularly stout but it looks right for a bike of that size and power. The rear shock looks like it will be very easy to replace for track duty and has easy access for making changes. My biggest issue was that the bike felt larger than I was expecting. I'm a big guy so I would expect it to feel small and it didn't. It has an upright riding position and tall wide bars. Of course, little things like that can be changed easily...
I also heard a rumor that they will be getting aggressive with contingency money to get them out on the track in full force.
Larry Gas Man 09-18-2005, 11:12 PM That's great news all around Larry! jeeps84 09-19-2005, 12:05 AM Id say the swing arm is fine for a 50 to 60 hp bike. :2cents: pickle.of.doom 09-19-2005, 10:52 PM Check out this one... Even better looking!!!
http://www.cyclenews.com/photos/ninja%20650%20web2.jpg jeeps84 09-19-2005, 11:13 PM Check out this one... Even better looking!!!
http://www.cyclenews.com/photos/ninja%20650%20web2.jpg
:iagree: R1up0n1 09-19-2005, 11:29 PM Thanks for the info Larry! Gas Man 09-20-2005, 08:15 AM Check out this one... Even better looking!!!
http://www.cyclenews.com/photos/ninja%20650%20web2.jpg
That is HOTT!! Is the whole frame red anadized? Sodbuster 09-20-2005, 03:58 PM I have a 1990 EX500 that I got as a starting bike and I've had it for a year (couldn't beat the $800 price). I'm sure I'll be riding it for a few more years to come but I was always thinking that the SV650 would be the next step. However, after getting used to the Kawasaki I wanted to stay "within the brand" since I liked the feel of the 500. I didn't want a true sportbike like a ZX-6R or something and I generally wanted to stay away from inline fours. My preference was for a V-Twin or Twin Parallel. I have to say, now that I've seen this I'm looking forward to owning one in a few years. I just hope they're offering it in some kind of blue color scheme when I am in the market since my gear is blue. R1up0n1 09-20-2005, 05:10 PM :welcome: Sodbuster stick around :twfrox:
The SV is a great bike...I was a little hard on mine as you can see in my sig here, but overall it was a great bike. JK_DILLA 09-20-2005, 05:23 PM I have a 1990 EX500 that I got as a starting bike and I've had it for a year (couldn't beat the $800 price). I'm sure I'll be riding it for a few more years to come but I was always thinking that the SV650 would be the next step. However, after getting used to the Kawasaki I wanted to stay "within the brand" since I liked the feel of the 500. I didn't want a true sportbike like a ZX-6R or something and I generally wanted to stay away from inline fours. My preference was for a V-Twin or Twin Parallel. I have to say, now that I've seen this I'm looking forward to owning one in a few years. I just hope they're offering it in some kind of blue color scheme when I am in the market since my gear is blue.
if they dont offer a blue one the first year they will the next. They usually try to cover all the color bases. :welcome: :welcome: :welcome: Earlzach 09-20-2005, 05:24 PM Very sexy. I think it looks awesome. But you all know the style of bikes I like. Nekkid. Or at least half Nekkid!lol
That exhaust looks like a single in dual out flowmaster :lol:
But I like it. Only one problem being just over entry level isnt going to give me the punch I enjoy out of my 1000. Other than that it looks like a good two up rider for a day of fun on any twisty road. :2cents: :dthumb: JK_DILLA 09-20-2005, 05:28 PM Just the response to this bike on this forum alone, i think kawi has a seller on their hands. Did anyone know this segment was missing till Suzuki introduced the SV? I didnt. SpeedWerks.com 09-20-2005, 05:50 PM Hey guys, just got back. Good looking bike in person, lots of nice details on it. Not many specs were available yet but we were told that they tested the bike head-to-head on the track with the SV650 and everybody did better on the Kawi. My initial impression is that the bike seems larger than the sv but it has been a while since I rode one. Price looks like it will be competitive and could end up as a good entry-level bike just above the EX500 who's design is showing its age. It will be interesting to see if it does as well as we think it will.
Larry
Larry G, I didn't know you were going???? I would have bought you a drink or something while we were there!
Laura Gas Man 09-20-2005, 08:18 PM :welcome: Sodbuster! The EX500 is a great bike! And the SV650 would be a great next bike for you... you would love it as much as you do your 500 if not more! itgirl25 09-20-2005, 08:46 PM now when are they gonna modernize the 250? it is still so boxy up front. are you telling me they can't round it out a bit and make it look sportier, more like a mini-600? i remember when the 250 and the 600 looked like twins. those were the days.... R1up0n1 09-20-2005, 09:01 PM If Suzuki could do it with the old GS500E to the new decient looking GS500F then Kawi can do it with the EX500 :2cents: SpeedWerks.com 09-21-2005, 09:41 AM now when are they gonna modernize the 250? it is still so boxy up front. are you telling me they can't round it out a bit and make it look sportier, more like a mini-600? i remember when the 250 and the 600 looked like twins. those were the days....
But they did, they added BNG! LOL! (Bold new graphics)...I'm just kidding, I agree with you. They should update the body style of that bike, especially considering 40% of Ninja250 buyers are women. We'd love something a little more fun. If you check out my pictures from the Kawi event, you'll see the BNG they put on the 250. They added some fun little flames to the bike.
Laura itgirl25 09-21-2005, 01:04 PM But they did, they added BNG! LOL! (Bold new graphics)...I'm just kidding, I agree with you. They should update the body style of that bike, especially considering 40% of Ninja250 buyers are women. We'd love something a little more fun. If you check out my pictures from the Kawi event, you'll see the BNG they put on the 250. They added some fun little flames to the bike.
Laura
i did check out your pics. they were awesome. i'm so glad you were there to speak on us ladies' behalf. they definately did step up the paint schemes on the 250. it looks nice, a step in the right direction. maybe next year there will be a body style update. it really needs it, it is looking dated. jcraig 10-01-2005, 01:41 AM Hello! I registered just to post in this thread. The motor specs appear to be exact same as the ER-6n, which according to Kawasaki's site, claims to produce 71.4HP and 50ft-lbs. of torque.
According to recent dyno's of 2006 600cc. (and 636cc) Sport Bike's, producing 100-108 rwhp, this seems pretty anemic. However, those same dyno's show only 40-42 ft.-lbs. MAX torque. Not to mention, the 650R makes it's max torque at 7,000rpm - almost twice than the SuperSport's at that speed.
I'm looking to buy a bike this weekend in fact and this is one major candidate. However, I will have to ride it first. I'm used to a GSX-R 750, and comfortable on a GSX-R 600, but don't necessesarily need all that power. Am I in for a big let-down with the 650R in terms of performance? Gas Man 10-01-2005, 09:05 AM :welcome: Jcraig! JK_DILLA 10-01-2005, 11:37 AM Hello! I registered just to post in this thread. The motor specs appear to be exact same as the ER-6n, which according to Kawasaki's site, claims to produce 71.4HP and 50ft-lbs. of torque.
According to recent dyno's of 2006 600cc. (and 636cc) Sport Bike's, producing 100-108 rwhp, this seems pretty anemic. However, those same dyno's show only 40-42 ft.-lbs. MAX torque. Not to mention, the 650R makes it's max torque at 7,000rpm - almost twice than the SuperSport's at that speed.
I'm looking to buy a bike this weekend in fact and this is one major candidate. However, I will have to ride it first. I'm used to a GSX-R 750, and comfortable on a GSX-R 600, but don't necessesarily need all that power. Am I in for a big let-down with the 650R in terms of performance?
welcome and thanks for the numbers :dthumb:. You'll miss the bull rush power band of the supersports for sure. But having the torque "dig" you out the corners is real nice. Demo if you can demo, and what kind of riding do you do? jcraig 10-01-2005, 04:39 PM Thanks for the warm welcome!! :cheers:
As far as "the kind of riding" I do... hmmm... how would I explain that? Well, I ride with my room-mate, and a few friends who ride a GSX-R 750, '06 ZX636R, and an Aprillia RSV 1000. We usually get together on weekends and nights to just go bomb some nice country roads or cruise the town. So, "recreational" I guess? None of us like to go balls to the wall for extended periods of riding since we are all pretty level headed riders who understand the reality of piloting these monsters on public Florida roads dominated by senior citizen's and teenagers. And plus, one of us has already met the pavement at 60mph.
I went today to a few shops but none had a 650R yet. They said expect them to be in around April! :disapp:
So, I ended up applying for a Triumph Speed Four. This bike seems to excel in power and quality in it's class and I got a great deal on it (with LOTS of Carbon Fiber accessories too!). I'll see Monday if the application goes through!
btw... to compair;
'04 Triumph Speed Four
Maximum Power 98PS (97bhp) at 11,750 rpm
Maximum Torque 68Nm (51ft.lbf) at 10,500 rpm JK_DILLA 10-01-2005, 05:11 PM between the two... deffinately the speed four. :cheers: jeeps84 10-02-2005, 12:01 AM between the two... deffinately the speed four. :cheers:
:iagree:
:welcome: jcraig & Sodbuster :twfrox: NotJuliet 10-02-2005, 06:23 AM I went today to a few shops but none had a 650R yet. They said expect them to be in around April! :disapp:
I joined just to respond to this post (google alerts work great!) 2 weeks ago I hit the dealerships, nobody had heard of the 650R - had no idea what I was talking about although I'd read a lot about the bike on the net. They said was probably a late release, and would be out in the spring - around April. Last week the dealer called, said Kawasaki had the dealer meeting - and they were being announced Oct 1. Yesterday morning - there was the bike and all the specs on Kawa's website. Went down the dealership yesterday...he only has his own one copy of the literature (more was on the web about the bike than in the brochure), and it's got a NOVEMBER ship date. He's got 12 coming...they are expecting these to fly out the door. He's going to call me as soon as he knows what day they arrive so I can come throw a leg over so I can get first shot at them. jeeps84 10-02-2005, 09:23 AM :welcome: NotJuliet Stick around because :twfrox:
I think this will be the hoot sailing bike this year also. Gas Man 10-02-2005, 10:53 AM :welcome: NJ! They are coming for sure, cause they had them at the Kaw dealer convention. The salesmen you were talking to just didn't know what the F they were talking about. JK_DILLA 10-02-2005, 06:32 PM :welcome: notjuliet glad you wanted to post. :cheers: Im going to make a special trip to the dealer to just to see this bike. Last time i did that was 2000 when the GSXR 750 redesign came out. Trip 10-05-2005, 09:13 AM Hey I am new to biking and this forum,
I am currently looking to get my first bike and I was considering this one and the Katana 600. Any guesses how this one will rank against the Katana as far as performance? Is it going to be about the same size or smaller? Any other bike recommendations for a bike in this price range? Gas Man 10-05-2005, 10:26 AM :welcome:
About anything will do better than a Kat! :lol:
Seriously, it looks like this Kaw will do alot better than a Kat that has really limited current technology on it! bumblebee 10-05-2005, 10:38 AM Thanks for the warm welcome!! :cheers:
As far as "the kind of riding" I do... hmmm... how would I explain that? Well, I ride with my room-mate, and a few friends who ride a GSX-R 750, '06 ZX636R, and an Aprillia RSV 1000. We usually get together on weekends and nights to just go bomb some nice country roads or cruise the town. So, "recreational" I guess? None of us like to go balls to the wall for extended periods of riding since we are all pretty level headed riders who understand the reality of piloting these monsters on public Florida roads dominated by senior citizen's and teenagers. And plus, one of us has already met the pavement at 60mph.
I went today to a few shops but none had a 650R yet. They said expect them to be in around April! :disapp:
So, I ended up applying for a Triumph Speed Four. This bike seems to excel in power and quality in it's class and I got a great deal on it (with LOTS of Carbon Fiber accessories too!). I'll see Monday if the application goes through!
btw... to compair;
'04 Triumph Speed Four
Maximum Power 98PS (97bhp) at 11,750 rpm
Maximum Torque 68Nm (51ft.lbf) at 10,500 rpm
Great! :welcome: So what public roads in Florida are you riding on??? Come on up to the Big Bend for some riding... bumblebee 10-05-2005, 10:43 AM :welcome: NotJuliet Stick around because :twfrox:
I think this will be the hoot sailing bike this year also.
Yo Jeeps...is that some sort of nautical bike there??? I've never sailed a hoot before...can you show us?... :lol: bmparis 10-10-2005, 12:03 PM Hey, I just joined to respond to this as well. I too have been anxiously awaiting the 650r. Im hoping that my 6'2" and 240 lbs fit happily on this bike. The dealers here in TX have also told me around November for delivery. On the Kaw website, its said to be around 6300 or so. I just took the MSF course and was debating on getting a lil runabout bike in the meanwhile. I dunno. Gas Man 10-10-2005, 04:29 PM :welcome: bmparis!! Stick around cause :twfrox: jeeps84 10-10-2005, 11:52 PM Hey, I just joined to respond to this as well. I too have been anxiously awaiting the 650r. Im hoping that my 6'2" and 240 lbs fit happily on this bike. The dealers here in TX have also told me around November for delivery. On the Kaw website, its said to be around 6300 or so. I just took the MSF course and was debating on getting a lil runabout bike in the meanwhile. I dunno.
:welcome: Don't waste your money on something you don't want when the one you like is just around the corner :2cents:
Bee
woops :whistle: everybody knew what I meant. :lol: hot selling bike NotJuliet 11-01-2005, 09:41 PM I'm bacccckkkk! My dealer was supposed to hear Oct 29 when in November they'd be in - but hasn't heard anything. This will be my first bike too - I almost bought a Blast - but was afraid it wouldn't be a good bike for a lotta slab/distance - and that I'd outgrow it too fast. My biggest problem was finding a bike I wouldn't outgrow too fast - but that I can handle at 5'3". I've ridden as a passenger with Southern Cruisers for 2 years and they and my mechanic think it will be a great first bike for me. I'm waitin with baited breath for the call from the dealer :) Of course, by the time it comes in - I'll have to park it in the garage for the winter :( bmparis 11-02-2005, 05:55 AM Of course, by the time it comes in - I'll have to park it in the garage for the winter :(
Not me hee heee! When I get my bike, Im riding regardless of temperature. Of course I can say that in San Antonio when it rarely dips under 40.... :wink: Gas Man 11-02-2005, 07:52 AM Juilet, if you live in a actual winter like us Michiganders... why worry... just check back in Feb.... they'll have em! jeeps84 11-04-2005, 07:09 AM Juilet, if you live in a actual winter like us Michiganders... why worry... just check back in Feb.... they'll have em!
:iagree: Its not like they are limited production or anything. Gas Man 11-04-2005, 12:29 PM Yeah..exactly... ScottSellersUNR 11-04-2005, 08:09 PM i think its ognna be a even better bike then the SV to start on.. power is in line with it but slightly less torque to get a new rider in trouble with.
Is it fuel injected? (id assume yes) bmparis 11-05-2005, 07:43 AM its supposed to be fuel injected and all the reports seem pretty goood. im torn between this bike and the zzr 600. Gas Man 11-05-2005, 07:57 AM That means you have to to and see them both... seeing them in person may sway your mind! bmparis 11-05-2005, 08:26 AM I know I know :( Ive seen the dark blue 05 zzf600 and love the look. Im just waiting (impatiently) til the 650r comes out so I can sit on both. ScottSellersUNR 11-05-2005, 09:52 AM looks wise and the 650R is much more up to date... Suspension.... i dont know.. that may be a big sell point too.
did the ZZR also get fuel injected finally?
If that that be be a clear descision for me. But the I4 Vs. parallel twin is gonna make em act different.... I love twins, but a small twin may fall short if u want a lot of speed. bmparis 11-05-2005, 10:02 AM Nah the 05 zzr is still carburated... how does that affect the performance of the bike? ScottSellersUNR 11-05-2005, 01:22 PM It wont affect stock performance, but when modifing to a new exhaust, air filter and other htings, it requires rejetting.. where a EFI bike will not require any changes... or just a PC3 thats tuneable.. much faster and easier tuning. To tune the ZZR as finely will require a shop and a lot of time, most of your Stage 3 jet kits require modifiying your carbuerator by drilling it.... And EFI is less affected by trips into the mountians and htings thats a carb cant adjust for as well. Gas Man 11-05-2005, 04:02 PM The thing to consider with the parrellel twin is that they just don't produce the power of the V-twins or the I-4's JK_DILLA 11-05-2005, 05:54 PM The thing to consider with the parrellel twin is that they just don't produce the power of the V-twins or the I-4's
typically yes. but thats not stopping Kawi from claiming 72hp for the Ninja 650. par for an SV. jeeps84 11-05-2005, 07:50 PM I know I know :( Ive seen the dark blue 05 zzf600 and love the look. Im just waiting (impatiently) til the 650r comes out so I can sit on both.
I had the same problem deciding on color after I decided which new bike to get. Impatiently waiting to see the Yellow and Black in person.
I hope you don't have that issue later. bmparis 11-06-2005, 03:15 AM Hey has anyone seen the wheelbase on the 650r? I cant seem to find it anywhere... Funny today my wife almost agreed to getting a zx6r. Almost took her up on it. But since im starting out, wanted something a lil more tame for now.
Larry, have you heard anything new concerning the 650r rollout? JK_DILLA 11-06-2005, 10:22 AM Hey has anyone seen the wheelbase on the 650r? I cant seem to find it anywhere... Funny today my wife almost agreed to getting a zx6r. Almost took her up on it. But since im starting out, wanted something a lil more tame for now.
Larry, have you heard anything new concerning the 650r rollout?
th e kawi site doesnt even know... :lol:
Engine Type: 4-Stroke, Liquid-Cooled, DOHC, 4 Valve Cylinder Head, Parallel Twin
Displacement: 649 cc
Bore & Stroke: 83.0 x 60.0 mm
Maximum Torque: N/A
Compression Ratio: 11.3:1
Carburetor: DFI with Keihin 38mm Throttle Bodies (2)
Transmission: 6-Speed
Final Drive: O-Ring Chain
Rake/Trail: 25°/4.2 in.
Front Wheel Travel: N/A
Rear Wheel Travel: N/A
Front Tire Size: 120/70-17
Rear Tire Size: 160/60-17
Wheelbase: N/A
Front Suspension: 41mm Hydraulic Telescopic Fork
Rear Suspension: Offset Laydown Single Shock
Front Brake Type: Dual 300mm Petal Disc with 2-Piston Caliper
Rear Brake Type: Single 220mm Petal Disc
Fuel Tank Capacity: 4.1 gal.
Seat Height: N/A
Dry Weight: N/A
Color: Galaxy Silver/Metallic Graystone, Ebony/Galaxy Silver
Warranty: 12 months
Good Times Protection Plan: 24, 36 or 48 months
must have taken some real conviction to pass up a 6r and wait for the 650. Props main! jeeps84 11-06-2005, 10:29 AM :lol: That's the first place I looked when he asked.
What's up with a bike so close to release. They don't event have all the info on their own bike. :wbs: JK_DILLA 11-06-2005, 10:29 AM Model Year 2006
......Tyre, front 120/70ZR17M/C (58W)
Tyre, rear 160/60ZR17M/C (69W)
Brakes, front Dual semi-floating 300 mm petal discs, dual piston caliper
Brakes, rear Single 220 mm petal disc, single piston caliper
Steering angle, left / right 32° / 32°
Dimensions (L x W x H) 2,100 mm x 760 mm x 1,095 mm
Wheelbase 1,405 mm
Seat height 785 mm
Fuel capacity 15.5 litres
Dry weight 174 kg...... Gas Man 11-06-2005, 11:00 AM That makes it just a hair over 55 inches... JK_DILLA 11-06-2005, 05:02 PM 06 ER6n/ 650R- 55"
06 R6- 54.5"
06 CBR600 RR- 54.7"
06 GSXR 600- 55.1"
06 SV650S- 56.3"
06 FZ6- 56.7"
06 599- 56.1"
anything else yall want me to add to this list? jeeps84 11-06-2005, 06:37 PM Yep, all very close. JK_DILLA 11-06-2005, 06:52 PM all just numbers, but its WB numbers are'nt far from the "sharp" bikes. And better than its immediate comp. jeeps84 11-06-2005, 06:54 PM Shorter is not always better. It depends on the total package. JK_DILLA 11-07-2005, 04:01 AM thats what i mean by "its just numbers". but their favorable. jeeps84 11-07-2005, 10:54 PM thats what i mean by "its just numbers". but their favorable.
:dthumb: bmparis 11-08-2005, 07:19 AM must have taken some real conviction to pass up a 6r and wait for the 650. Props main!
MAN you have Noooooo idea! But what kept me from jumping primarily (since i see me moving up to that class of bike in a few years) is that its 2k more than i really wanted to spend. Money has a way of putting things into perspective sometimes jeeps84 11-08-2005, 10:47 AM Money has a way of putting things into perspective sometimes
Aint that the truth. JK_DILLA 11-08-2005, 06:16 PM Money has a way of putting things into perspective sometimes
the ultimate decision maker:yesnod: Gas Man 11-08-2005, 06:29 PM Aint that the truth.
Yeah well you also have to like/love what you are paying for. Regret in wishing you got the other "one" is a bietch! Gas Man 01-08-2006, 04:34 PM More and more pics...
Well I don't know what some of these dealers are telling you people but the bike definatly excists. I sat on it and it was quite nice.
I really liked the bike. It had a bit less aggressive stance in the rider position but the bike looks GREAT! Here's some pics!
Check out the rear suspension, I love seeing it and I'm surprised I do! Plus the pic of the exhaust header.
What do you think?
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http://www.twowheelforum.com/photopost/direct_data/521/medium/Cycle_World_041.jpg pickle.of.doom 01-08-2006, 04:43 PM Yep, was definitely one of the bikes I thought was coolest at the show yesterday.. The black/silver one looked REAL sharp! JK_DILLA 01-08-2006, 05:55 PM the seat didnt seen almost too low for yall? it was really low for me. jeeps84 01-08-2006, 10:54 PM the seat didnt seen almost too low for yall? it was really low for me.
I checked one out at the dealer on Sat. The whole bike felt like a Ninja 500 to me.:disapp: jarelj 01-09-2006, 12:49 PM Hi all, lurked for a while figured I'd register and post now that I have something to say! Got my 650R last week and started getting it ready for the race track. It has a few PITA design elements, like the huge steel rearset/passenger peg bracket, but overall it's going to be a great track bike. Riding it around on the street a little bit I am pretty impressed with it, very solid chassis and good handling in stock form. Motor pulls strong, it's much faster than a Ninja 500R, very similar to the SV. This would be a great bike for a newer/lighter rider since it's "friendly" in size and disposition, but like the SV it will be a great lightweight track bike as well.
Here's mine "in progress"...... race bodywork is next.....
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I enjoy your insight on this.
How did you find us here at TWF? Referal or internet search on your bike? JK_DILLA 01-09-2006, 08:42 PM :welcome: jarelj! Yeah those footpeg brackets are monsterous. I think you can answer the question ive been asking since ive heard of the 650R..... is it better than an SV? I see you have plenty of the latter around. And if you get bored, see if you can fit the Ninja rims on an SV :D
and :welcome: again! jarelj 01-09-2006, 08:55 PM :welcome:
I enjoy your insight on this.
How did you find us here at TWF? Referal or internet search on your bike?
Don't remember for sure, I had the site bookmarked for a while and floated over once in a while. It was probably an internet search. I run a forum myself, and participate in many, so I'm always keeping my eyes open for other good forums! :cheers: jarelj 01-09-2006, 09:00 PM :welcome: jarelj! Yeah those footpeg brackets are monsterous. I think you can answer the question ive been asking since ive heard of the 650R..... is it better than an SV? I see you have plenty of the latter around. And if you get bored, see if you can fit the Ninja rims on an SV :D
and :welcome: again!
I can't say it's better or worse overall, it definitely has some things better but lacks a little in others. I'll be able to answer whether I like it better as a race bike over the next few months. So far, I'm very impressed with it, and it seems to have great potential in the handling department. I'm hoping it's at least equal to the SV so I don't embarass myself this year with all those SV's around me! :bonk: R1up0n1 01-09-2006, 09:35 PM :welcome: jarelj:twfrox: jeeps84 01-09-2006, 10:20 PM :welcome: jarelj:twfrox:
:luck: with keeping the SV's at bay. ScottSellersUNR 01-10-2006, 12:06 AM Hey Jarel.
Just for the person that asked, he came over from www.riderforums.com
He has been racing SV's for some time so it should be a real fair and unbiased comparo when he says whats faster at the track.
Good to see ya over at the only other forum ive ever posted on. I think youll find this one interesting, though much broader in spectrum. Riderforums has more info on the few bikes it caters too, but this one might offer more rider perspective on the sport versus a certain bike. jarelj 01-10-2006, 08:09 AM Hey Jarel.
Hey Scott, thanks for the welcome! :cheers: Gas Man 01-10-2006, 01:52 PM Hey Scott, thanks for the welcome! :cheers:
But make sure you stick around! jarelj 01-25-2006, 08:00 AM See, I'm still here! :cheers: Track test #1 is complete with the little Ninja, we just got back from a 3-day event at JenningsGP in Florida. For this test I had managed to get the forks upgraded with the typical SV supersport setup of race-tech gold valve emulators, proper springs, modified damping rods and thicker oil. On the rear I had shoehorned in a Penske off of an F4i and resprung it for my weight on the Ninja. Had some hacked up prototype bodywork on it, clip-ons and some prototype rearset plates. So it had all of the basics you need for a race bike, just looked a little ugly with the mismatched, unpainted bodywork. Overall the bike did great, once I got good tires on it I could corner as hard as I did on the SV, it was stable under braking, stable mid-corner, held a line well, turned in easy enough and made left-right transitions even easier than the SV. The bone stock motor with stock exhaust pulled strong up to the point it was strangled by the exhaust, so I'm really excited about how well it will do once I get a full system and PCIII on it. rider76 01-25-2006, 12:11 PM keep us up to date on it man, Nice pictures!!!! Gas Man 01-25-2006, 05:16 PM Let see some pics of it all track done and pics of the suspension mods!! R1up0n1 01-25-2006, 09:20 PM :iagree: jarelj 01-25-2006, 10:22 PM Ask and you shall receive! :wink:
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http://www.CycleZoo.com/TrackPics/650R20060125e.JPG R1up0n1 01-25-2006, 10:33 PM looking good there jarelj:dthumb: jeeps84 01-25-2006, 11:01 PM :iagree: That's a crazy exhaust on that bike any way. I'm surprised you are getting an aftermarket so soon. jarelj 01-26-2006, 07:49 AM :iagree: That's a crazy exhaust on that bike any way. I'm surprised you are getting an aftermarket so soon.
Most of the European exhaust companies already have products out since the Euro version (ER-6N) has been out for a few months longer already. I haven't decided which one I'm getting yet, I'm kind of holding off for Arrow to come out with one since I was so happy with the Arrow Ti system I had on my SV. ScottSellersUNR 01-26-2006, 11:23 AM very race bike looking!lol The suspension is justso diff looking in the back with the mounting of that shock. Is there a reason your keeping the normal style forks up front, or maybe a better question is, Do inverted forks offer any better performance or is it just for ease of springing them that everything is going inverted? jarelj 01-26-2006, 11:26 AM very race bike looking!lol The suspension is justso diff looking in the back with the mounting of that shock. Is there a reason your keeping the normal style forks up front, or maybe a better question is, Do inverted forks offer any better performance or is it just for ease of springing them that everything is going inverted?
I'm actually going to be putting on inverted 636 forks, but I wanted to get some track testing in with the stock/emulator setup to see how well it would work. Since we sell suspension upgrades, I like to be able to offer first-hand experience when I talk to people about what works and what doesn't. jeeps84 01-26-2006, 12:21 PM I was wondering the same thing. It guess it makes sense to know exactly what your telling the costumer about and whether they need to spend the extra $$$ for the complete new suspension. jarelj 01-26-2006, 12:57 PM There are quite a few benefits to the full inverted fork setup, mainly the added stiffness with the large part of the tube being clamped in the triples rather than the smaller tube, the full cartridge internals rather than damping rods for more precise damping and easier tuning/adjustability, and the brakes which are much more powerful. For an average street rider, it's a worthwhile upgrade if you can justify spending $1000 on a new front end, but if not you can still have a very nice setup with proper springs and emulators. For aggressive/track use the inverted front end is pretty nice as long as you're not planning to race in the supersport class. pickle.of.doom 01-26-2006, 01:29 PM Did you just do a track day at Jennings GP? I was looking at someone elses trackday pics on a different forum and saw a 650 in the same color race plastic. Can't be too many of those yet :D jarelj 01-26-2006, 05:06 PM Yeah, 3 days at JenningsGP last Saturday - Monday. Where'd you see those pics, I'd be interested to check them out! pickle.of.doom 01-26-2006, 07:22 PM http://forums.cycleworld.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/72660552/m/6960080821 Gas Man 01-26-2006, 09:27 PM Looks good man!!! jarelj 01-26-2006, 10:29 PM http://forums.cycleworld.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/72660552/m/6960080821
Cool, he got better shots of the bike than I had! :cheers: jarelj 02-01-2006, 08:50 AM Here she was in action down at JenningsGP:
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I'd like to show you my mount:
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http://photos-849.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v316/240/112/590144849/n590144849_773840_3074.jpg Phenix_Rider 12-10-2008, 12:59 PM For anyone wondering about reliability, rideability, and staying power- here's mine two seasons and 17,000+ miles later. Commuting, day trips, long weekend rides, group rips with SS bikes, trackdays- this thing does it all well. I'm looking for another to beat up at the track.
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x166/Phenix_Rider/P1000818.jpg zercath 10-28-2009, 11:40 AM When you've got something that works, why not look for an easy way to get it to more people? That's the question the people at Kawasaki must have been asking themselves, and their answer came out in the form of the oddly named 2009 Kawasaki ER-6n. This naked streetbike utilizes the same chassis and engine combo that underpins the likeable 2008 Kawasaki Versys 650—Kawi's quasi-adventure bike with the longer-suspension travel (unchanged for '09 with the exception of now being California-legal)—and the sensibly sporty Ninja 650R.
Both the ER-6n and the revised-for-2009 Ninja 650 share many evolutionary changes. There's a new tank shape and seat to improve ergonomics and make it easier for shorter riders to touch at least toes down at stop signs. Very low-effort controls were a design mandate of these models from the start, and that carries over onto the '09 model—you don't need big mitts to pull the clutch or work the throttle. And as compliant as the engine is, some complained that the 650cc eight-valve parallel-Twin was a bit buzzier than they would have liked. But instead of quelling it at the source (expensive), Brand K's engineers went after the bad vibes further down the line. The frame itself has revised stiffness (more rigid here, less there) and the rear engine mount is now rubber instead of solidViagra Online (http://www.safemeds.com/) . Rubber handlebar mounts and footpeg coverings further insulate rider and passenger from buzz. Hey, maybe the "ER" in ER-6n stands for "Extra Rubber?" | |