Rumor has it... ZX14 1/4 runs...

larryg
02-25-2006, 10:04 PM
...Ricky Gadson ran a 9.30 on a bone stock ZX14 yesterday and after they bolted on a 6" over swingarm and a pipe he ran an 8.35...still on a stock motor! Larry

MOTV8
02-25-2006, 10:23 PM
Reading your post, ...then your signature makes me think of a Zen koan. :readng: ....:scratch: ....:smoke: ....:rofl3:

DLIT
02-25-2006, 11:25 PM
Pretty impresive. That's the same guy who ran high 9's on a stock '05 R6 right? Didn't he just lower it and change the gearing a bit?

R1up0n1
02-26-2006, 12:04 AM
I guess this guy might know what he's doing, or just experimenting with new idea's and they work out.:dthumb:

ebbs15
02-26-2006, 12:08 AM
...Ricky Gadson ran a 9.30 on a bone stock ZX14 yesterday and after they bolted on a 6" over swingarm and a pipe he ran an 8.35...still on a stock motor! Larry so where'd you hear this? dang... I wonder what a bit of money into the motor would do?:yikes:

Captain Morgan
02-26-2006, 05:40 AM
Pretty impresive. That's the same guy who ran high 9's on a stock '05 R6 right? Didn't he just lower it and change the gearing a bit? Yep, same guy. He was running low 10's with a stock R6, then lowered it and changed the gearing by 1 tooth and got it down to 9.9x.

Gas Man
02-26-2006, 09:05 AM
That's pretty impressive... got any more info on that Larry?

rider76
02-26-2006, 10:00 AM
I think 9.30 on a bone stock KAwi has the busa beat....for this year anyway..

gixxer1333
02-26-2006, 07:02 PM
:readng: Checking on the power to weight ratio and for some reason this time Can't be put down w/o some mod:nonod: 8.35 on stock motor:doh:

ebbs15
02-26-2006, 07:07 PM
I'm still wondering where this rumor came from!?

R1up0n1
02-26-2006, 07:18 PM
I'm still wondering where this rumor came from!? I guess larryg will have to tell us next time he logs on and looks at this thread.:2cents:

Gas Man
02-26-2006, 07:44 PM
:readng: Checking on the power to weight ratio and for some reason this time Can't be put down w/o some mod:nonod: 8.35 on stock motor:doh: Yeah but most of those specs haven't been proved or dis-proved!

gixxer1333
02-27-2006, 07:19 PM
:scratch: True, but from experience in squezzing as much out of a motor as possible, there is no equation that would work out to reach such times. Not even a Busa.:nonod:

rider76
02-27-2006, 08:18 PM
Larry? Larry where are you. you start this thread, get a debate going and you are no where to be found. tell us where you heard the rumor....

Gas Man
02-27-2006, 08:41 PM
Larry? Larry where are you. you start this thread, get a debate going and you are no where to be found. tell us where you heard the rumor.... :damn: :rant: Don't you hate when people do that!!

jeeps84
02-27-2006, 08:47 PM
:yikes: WOW That is impressive. But he seems to be able to get numbers out of bikes nobody else can.:crazy:

DLIT
02-27-2006, 09:15 PM
Yeah, I think that R6 was in a magazine at one point.

larryg
02-27-2006, 09:52 PM
Sorry guys...I did a little research and it seems he ran a 9.37 stock (possibly lowered a little) and more like a mid-8 with a 6" over swingarm, tire, pipe, and air shifter. I heard the rumor when my sales manager got a call from a buddy of his that was at the track watching it happen and then I found some more details on another forum. Either way, this is very good news for Kawasaki and very bad news for Suzuki :D Larry

jeeps84
02-27-2006, 09:55 PM
Either way, this is very good news for Kawasaki and very bad news for Suzuki :D Larry It just gives Suzuki something to best with the new model.:2cents: :sorry:I'm just a Zuk fan at hart.

R1up0n1
02-27-2006, 10:11 PM
It just gives Suzuki something to best with the new model.:2cents: :sorry:I'm just a Zuk fan at hart. :iagree: and I am a zuk fan over Kaw, but I think I am becoming a yami fan over zuk. :D

jeeps84
02-27-2006, 10:14 PM
:iagree: and I am a zuk fan over Kaw, but I think I am becoming a yami fan over zuk. :D You'll come around and see the error in your ways.:tt: :lol:

R1up0n1
02-27-2006, 10:15 PM
You'll come around and see the error in your ways.:tt: :lol: We'll see, but going from an SV to an R1 there can't possibably be an error in that! :lol:

ebbs15
02-27-2006, 10:16 PM
You'll come around and see the error in your ways.:tt: :lol: Yeah KAW over EVERYTHING:leaving:

R1up0n1
02-27-2006, 10:18 PM
Yeah KAW over EVERYTHING:leaving: that's just cuz you got a kaw!

ebbs15
02-27-2006, 10:20 PM
that's just cuz you got a kaw! MAYBE:skep: :lol: naw seriously... I like zuk cause of the SV.... but Yam just has... style

R1up0n1
02-27-2006, 10:22 PM
MAYBE:skep: :lol: naw seriously... I like zuk cause of the SV.... but Yam just has... style and power, and styling, and other stuff ! :D

jeeps84
02-27-2006, 10:25 PM
We'll see, but going from an SV to an R1 there can't possibably be an error in that! :lol: Definitely an upgrade, just not the right one for a true Zuk fan.

R1up0n1
02-27-2006, 10:32 PM
Definitely an upgrade, just not the right one for a true Zuk fan. where would i find a great deal on a gixxer like I found on the R1? Which would you choose if you had this oppertunity? I just lucked out and got a great deal on a R1 that I couldn't pass up that's all. I have always wanted a yami after my friend bought his 04 R6 tho.

jeeps84
02-27-2006, 11:03 PM
where would i find a great deal on a gixxer like I found on the R1? Which would you choose if you had this oppertunity? I just lucked out and got a great deal on a R1 that I couldn't pass up that's all. I have always wanted a yami after my friend bought his 04 R6 tho. :jacked: Personally, I would have bought the R1 months ago. sold it for profit and stuck with my Gixxer.

Gas Man
02-28-2006, 10:36 AM
Larry... do you have a link to that other forum?

bumblebee
02-28-2006, 11:32 AM
Wow...and I am thinking about how slammed truck and others got bashed:bash: when they reported/showed pics of their bikes after they extended their swing arms...:scratch:

MOTV8
02-28-2006, 12:08 PM
:scratch: Why? Is there some anti-drag racing bias I'm not aware of? Hell, I wanted to see the Pro Stock bikes at the NHRA race here last weekend. :disapp:

Gas Man
02-28-2006, 02:01 PM
No just some can't appreciate the hard work that some people put into their bikes...

rider76
02-28-2006, 07:35 PM
:scratch: Why? Is there some anti-drag racing bias I'm not aware of? Hell, I wanted to see the Pro Stock bikes at the NHRA race here last weekend. :disapp: :iagree: For those of us with ADD, the 1/4 is great. A race last 9,10 seconds then its over . new race new bikes new riders.

larryg
02-28-2006, 10:29 PM
Larry... do you have a link to that other forum? http://www.kawiforums.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=50017

Gas Man
02-28-2006, 10:44 PM
:dthumb: That is SWEET!! Looks like the 14 is going to make a big splash when it starts to work its way into the scene!

Freak69
03-01-2006, 07:39 AM
Impressive timings.. No matter whether I am a suze fan or Yam, it is bloody fast, and quite a bit more than I managed on my R1.. Yeah drag is good if you have ADD, but give me the longer thrills of a race any day..

ebbs15
03-01-2006, 01:54 PM
Impressive timings.. No matter whether I am a suze fan or Yam, it is bloody fast, and quite a bit more than I managed on my R1.. Yeah drag is good if you have ADD, but give me the longer thrills of a race any day.. Hey! I resemble that statement!? :lol: actually I do have ADD... but yet I can't stand drag races... I appricate hard work for the effort and creativity... but I'd rather watch qualifying for MotoGP than any drag race... :2cents:

pickle.of.doom
03-01-2006, 01:59 PM
Hmm, same rumor was going around other forums a couple of weeks before larry's post here... Same details. Either he did it twice, or these are just rumors :D

MOTV8
03-01-2006, 06:34 PM
Hey! I resemble that statement!? :lol: actually I do have ADD... but yet I can't stand drag races... I appricate hard work for the effort and creativity... but I'd rather watch qualifying for MotoGP than any drag race... :2cents: I enjoy watching ANY two-wheel sport, hell I've been known to watch trials all afternoon. :yaewn:

rider76
03-01-2006, 06:40 PM
well its march and the 14 should be reaching the hands of their new owners soon. wont be too long before we find out what the real deal is. Now one of you kawi riders need to buy one and give us the low down

larryg
03-01-2006, 08:57 PM
As far as I know, our first one has not been released yet. I doubt we will have it more than a day or two. Larry

Spiderman
03-06-2006, 07:08 PM
It was Ricky, and Ryan Schnitz at the Kawasaki proving grounds along with Brock Davidson testing these bikes. The stock 14's were running from 9.18 to 9.35, the red modified bike had a gearing change, full Muzzy system, and an adjustible swing arm. Only Ricky was allowed to run the modified bike, his best time was 8.82, no airshifter. That is still flying for a such little mods!! Sorry guys...I did a little research and it seems he ran a 9.37 stock (possibly lowered a little) and more like a mid-8 with a 6" over swingarm, tire, pipe, and air shifter. I heard the rumor when my sales manager got a call from a buddy of his that was at the track watching it happen and then I found some more details on another forum. Either way, this is very good news for Kawasaki and very bad news for Suzuki :D Larry

Spiderman
03-06-2006, 07:10 PM
Ricky has a custom painted and modified 14 that has a big motor and all the trimmings, I will post a pick as soon as I can find it again.

Spiderman
03-06-2006, 07:12 PM
Ive put money down on one here in Chicago and plan on running thru some stages as I did my Blackbird. If it runs as well as they are showing(unlike the ZX12) then it should be interesting. I have already started to fab up a turbo system for the bike.

ebbs15
03-06-2006, 07:24 PM
I have already started to fab up a turbo system for the bike. :yikes: damn...

jeeps84
03-06-2006, 07:34 PM
Ive put money down on one here in Chicago and plan on running thru some stages as I did my Blackbird. If it runs as well as they are showing(unlike the ZX12) then it should be interesting. I have already started to fab up a turbo system for the bike. :welcome: to TWF:yikes: :drool: :nopicsbs:

rider76
03-06-2006, 08:01 PM
Ive put money down on one here in Chicago and plan on running thru some stages as I did my Blackbird. If it runs as well as they are showing(unlike the ZX12) then it should be interesting. I have already started to fab up a turbo system for the bike. Thats what i am talking bout. :welcome: man, now got some pictures of the Fab work?

Gas Man
03-06-2006, 09:15 PM
:welcome: to TWF:yikes: :drool: :nopicsbs: :withstupi

Spiderman
03-06-2006, 09:50 PM
Thank you for the warm welcome everyone. My street name is the Spiderman, Ive been racing dragbikes for over 16 years on the street and at the track. I build performance motors, paint bikes, and do as much fab work as I possibly can to make these things roar. Drop me any questions at my website.

jeeps84
03-06-2006, 09:52 PM
Thank you for the warm welcome everyone. My street name is the Spiderman, Ive been racing dragbikes for over 16 years on the street and at the track. I build performance motors, paint bikes, and do as much fab work as I possibly can to make these things roar. Drop me any questions at my website. What sit would that be?:scratch:

Spiderman
03-06-2006, 09:53 PM
www.spidermanracing.com, By the way, is there a dragracing forum up here?? If not I would like to be a moderator for the racing site. I travel all over the US racing and would like to set things up for the track/street racers.

jeeps84
03-06-2006, 09:59 PM
IDK of any Drag Race specific but I'm sure there is.

larryg
03-06-2006, 11:25 PM
Welcome Spiderman, I'm glad someone really knows what is going on...BTW, check with Shanman about moderating a drag race forum (or adding it to the track section). Larry

jeeps84
03-06-2006, 11:30 PM
Welcome Spiderman, I'm glad someone really knows what is going on...BTW, check with Shanman about moderating a drag race forum (or adding it to the track section). Larry Good idea Larry. :dthumb: I think we could use a Drag Racing specific section here at TWF. Ill ask ShanMan if it can be done.

Spiderman
03-06-2006, 11:43 PM
Im on alot of forums, just like to help out.

jeeps84
03-06-2006, 11:56 PM
Im on alot of forums, just like to help out. Ill drop the word.:dthumb:

Gas Man
03-07-2006, 08:02 AM
So Spider... how well do you think this new Kaw is going to do in the drag world?

ebbs15
03-07-2006, 10:19 AM
according to Motorcycle Daily (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/01march06_zx14pt1.htm) the writer ran a 9.83 at 146mph stock...

Spiderman
03-07-2006, 12:28 PM
Ricky Gadson and Ryan Schitz are personal friends of mine, I got the report right from them that day, not too mention that Brock Davidson was also there, the stock bikes ran 9.30's and the modified bike went 8.80's

Spiderman
03-07-2006, 01:09 PM
Well Im currently waiting on one for my self, this will be the first non Honda/Suzuki project in over 15 years of racing. So that should tell you how excited I am about it. Im figuring that with a good turbo system and chassis mods the bike should be mid to low 7's with no problem. I just hope that the bikes that actually make their way to the dealers have the same performance numbers - the ZX12 was crap next to the test model.

rider76
03-07-2006, 05:37 PM
So the rumor is true... thats some nice numbers!!!!

Gas Man
03-07-2006, 09:34 PM
Well Spidy... keep us updated on you getting one!

Spiderman
03-07-2006, 09:55 PM
As soon as it is in my grasp, 1st step is 100 miles of break in, then off to the dyno, then PC3R with a Hindle pipe, then back to the dyno.

Gas Man
03-07-2006, 10:07 PM
I'm really looking forward to those numbers!!!

biggallemore
03-09-2006, 02:27 PM
guess my busa will be supporting a turbo in place of a oil cooler b4 any1 around here gets ahold of the new big bad kawi. i will still stick with the Zuk line up. besides the busa is WAY over due for an upgrade. I would think that the guys at Zuk will do it this year. maybe a 1450cc busa? or a 15? i heard the original design was a 15 but that it was to excessive to be released so they dropped it to a beefy 13 and let it out of the gates. (heard that from local zuk dealer)

Spiderman
03-09-2006, 07:17 PM
Well if you look at it that way, the Suzie and the Kaw are both still slower then the fastest modified street bike around!!! Kent Stotz just reset the record for the AMA Prostar Prostreet Bike class, 7.23@201.32, that beats out the fastest Suzie by almost a 10th of a second!!

ebbs15
03-09-2006, 07:21 PM
Well if you look at it that way, the Suzie and the Kaw are both still slower then the fastest modified street bike around!!! Kent Stotz just reset the record for the AMA Prostar Prostreet Bike class, 7.23@201.32, that beats out the fastest Suzie by almost a 10th of a second!! what was the bike?

rider76
03-09-2006, 07:22 PM
Well if you look at it that way, the Suzie and the Kaw are both still slower then the fastest modified street bike around!!! Kent Stotz just reset the record for the AMA Prostar Prostreet Bike class, 7.23@201.32, that beats out the fastest Suzie by almost a 10th of a second!! That maybe true, but a 9second stock bike is nothing to sneeze at!!

Spiderman
03-09-2006, 07:24 PM
Honda CBR1100XX, I do think that Suz will come out with a larger bike, that is what us Honda fans were hoping for, Im just going to build the Kaw too see how well it holds up, Ive had both Suzuki's and Honda's for years, this will be the first Kaw that I have personally built for myself.

rider76
03-09-2006, 07:28 PM
guess my busa will be supporting a turbo in place of a oil cooler b4 any1 around here gets ahold of the new big bad kawi. i will still stick with the Zuk line up. besides the busa is WAY over due for an upgrade. I would think that the guys at Zuk will do it this year. maybe a 1450cc busa? or a 15? i heard the original design was a 15 but that it was to excessive to be released so they dropped it to a beefy 13 and let it out of the gates. (heard that from local zuk dealer) I was hoping for a 1500, Might be a good use for some of the money i made in Iraq last year.

Spiderman
03-09-2006, 07:29 PM
Before the Busa got popular, we ran a 9.85 on Honda XX with just an exhaust system, no PC for the injection and no regearing. With the exhaust, PC2, lowered the bike ran 9.0's all day. So the Honda, Suzuki and Kaw are all in the same league, the difference will always be in the rider. The Suzuki is popular only because of the racing history, Honda has just about always dominated the road racing coarses and Suzuk and Kaw on the drag strip. Im a little older then the rest, but in 1984 Honda sat on top of the drag racing world with Terry Vance and Byron Hines running the old CB1100F as a platform. That was the last year that Honda was in the NHRA division.

Spiderman
03-09-2006, 07:30 PM
Your 1000 is a 9 sec bike all day with just little mods, but so is the CBR1000RR and the ZX10R. They are all great bikes. That maybe true, but a 9second stock bike is nothing to sneeze at!!

rider76
03-09-2006, 07:32 PM
Thats true the rider is what makes the bike. I dont care how fast the bike is if the rider can't pilot it to its potential

Spiderman
03-09-2006, 10:27 PM
Ive set national records over the past 15 years. I had the first true 600cc motorcycle that went 9.90's, had an article and photo's in CycleWorld, 1993, Bike was a 1992 CBR600F2. Nitrous, swing arm, no air shifter.

rider76
03-10-2006, 06:21 AM
Ive set national records over the past 15 years. I had the first true 600cc motorcycle that went 9.90's, had an article and photo's in CycleWorld, 1993, Bike was a 1992 CBR600F2. Nitrous, swing arm, no air shifter. Impressive spidy!!!!

Spiderman
03-10-2006, 08:38 AM
I will let you know when Im going to be at Gateway next, or maybe I could even come down for a little street racing, Im about 5 hours away.

mitch_1100xx
03-17-2006, 10:05 AM
whats he doing strapping thrusters on it?? spidey i wish you could run up my bike on the strip i would love to know what it runs with a pro racer on it.

Spiderman
03-18-2006, 09:55 PM
Your bike with the arm and the nitrous, Ill run 9'0s maybe even 8:90's, all depending on the tire and how much nos. whats he doing strapping thrusters on it?? spidey i wish you could run up my bike on the strip i would love to know what it runs with a pro racer on it.

WildMonkey
04-04-2006, 09:56 AM
First, Welcome to our little slice of Paradise ! Second, if you are in to racin' for cash, check out " Da Haouse of Hook" Carolina Dragway, they run T&T on Thur. and Sat. night, but the unique thing about this track is they acyually have 2 staging lanes for Gamblers only ! I have seen $20 to $30K cash change hands on cars, and bikes bring some pretty good dollars too ! The track is always prepped outstanding, with a full safety & Emergency crew. Steve.

GixxerNHemi
04-04-2006, 06:15 PM
i would think the zx-14 is better than a 9.30 bone stock.....isnt it? isnt the average for the 1000s around a 9.3-9.6? whereas the 750 is a high 9 and the 600s are low-mid 10s? rickey was running 8.72 - as low as 8.48 @ 178mph! in the AMA superstreet class. i have a link to a website where they are running a 9.17 bone stock...and its not ricky gadsonhttp://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mckaw/06_ZX-14/index.motml

drewpy
04-04-2006, 07:09 PM
did see on there a 200 hp rating with ram air in effect?

Twistedspeed
04-05-2006, 03:33 PM
Well if you look at it that way, the Suzie and the Kaw are both still slower then the fastest modified street bike around!!! Kent Stotz just reset the record for the AMA Prostar Prostreet Bike class, 7.23@201.32, that beats out the fastest Suzie by almost a 10th of a second!! This is the standing record for prostar. (Kent Stotz Schaumburg, IL Hon Valdosta 3/06 7.275 201.82) This was the record before they change the class to prostreet.. (Barry Henson Davie, FL Suz Gainesville 11/04 7.254 ) I really dont see how honda beats out the fastest suzie by almost a 10th of sec. When clearly it stats a Suz is still has the fastest e.t! Kent has the fastest mph. Thats cause Stoll couldnt back up his 202.00 mph pass last year.

zukboy
04-15-2006, 06:16 PM
you must also realize that we are talking about rickey gadson running this bike. There are few people with as much riding time as him and probally will not be able to beat this time. The busa is a proven drag bike and has most of the mechanical kinks worked out on it since it 99. We first must see how rider friendly the new kawi is a see how many mechincal kinks came out in the next year to see if this new bike will unthrone the busa. my opinion is that there will be some good racers this year but it will take another year or so to see this bikes real potiental.:cheers:

drewpy
04-25-2006, 05:18 PM
http://cs.kawiforums.com/cs/cs.display.asp?auth=32313839383B38333335393B3434303B755962775B4D5B5F58565C61457A