Wheelie Question

I have heard of the power wheelie and the clutch wheelie. I know how those are also performed but whats with this pulling the bike up technique. Why is it when I watch some videos of people doing wheelie I looks as if the guys are snatching the bike up into the air?

I have heard of the power wheelie and the clutch wheelie. I know how those are also performed but whats with this pulling the bike up technique. Why is it when I watch some videos of people doing wheelie I looks as if the guys are snatching the bike up into the air? ITS COMPRESSING THE FORKS, U STAND UP AND THEN BONCE DOWN ON THE BIKE,AS THE BIKE BOUNCES UP HIT THE GAS AND PULL UP, IT WILL BRING THE FRONT OF THE BIKE UP AND JUST ROLL ON THE THROTTLE TILL THE BIKE COMES UP TO THE SWEET SPOT

what gear would you recommend trying this in. I own an 02 Gixxer 6 with everything is pretty much stock except for a slipon exhaust

what gear would you recommend trying this in. I own an 02 Gixxer 6 with everything is pretty much stock except for a slipon exhaust FIRST OR SECOND BUT BE CAREFUL IN FIRST BECOUSE IT WILL ROCKET UP

do you have a recommended speed for second

You shouldn't need to bounce it up in first. However, the technique is to get the revs up, get out of the throttle, then immediately back in, hard. But as was said before, be careful as you can loop it.

speed isn't the concern, it's RPM's. Probably get out of it around 8K, then hit the throttle hard and it will come up.

omg. dont listen. go read www.stuntlife.com i guarantee theres a sticky on how to wheelie. the bouncing is to compress your fork springs, b/c when they unload its supposed to help bounce the bike up. i guess i've never done wheelies on a 600, but 8k seems pretty high. i have a 929 and can do power wheelies in first at 4k..just going at about 25 steady throttle, then get off the gas, then back on the gas..as he said power wheelies come up quick. clutching it is the way to go. go for 2nd. dont clutch first till you learn second. i do em around 4k on my 929 you might have to go a little bit higher. Its like doing a power wheelie except when you get off the gas, hit the clutch, gas it, then let the clutch out. for an in depth description check out stuntlife, cuz i dont really want to type that much. good luck. btw. are you doing sit down or stand up?

im doing sit downs im not sure if stands up will be so easy for me im 6'4"

my buddies 6'2" and he has no prob. sitdowns...just keep your arms strait and lean back..kinda hang off the bars. standups..put your LEFT foot on the left rear peg, and keep your right on the regular peg, but covering the brake in case your wheelie comes to high. now go read stuntlife cuz i really dont want to type that much. i know theres lots of *******s there, but you'll be fine.:dthumb:

:iagree: with RUI. 8k is way to much rpm's. I own a gixxer1000 and I do basically the same as RUI but going into second I power shift.:luck:

i guess i've never done wheelies on a 600, but 8k seems pretty high. 600's dont have near the low-end torque that liter bikes do. I had to bring my R6 decently into the powerband before it would lift the front tire off using its own power. This is with the quick letoff and back on throttle method of course. The 954, not even close. The 954, of course, is a wheelie monster, but the smaller bikes do need consiberable more revs.

In my experience, the rebound off the front forks is all you need. In a smaller bike throttle it then trottle it back on when you catch the rebound. Standin up will help even more. Bury the forks then pull up on it.:luck:

The 954, of course, is a wheelie monster, but the smaller bikes do need consiberable more revs. :iagree: and coming from somebody that has wheelied many a mile on a Gixxer 6. With stock gearing, Higher reves are needed for the bounce. Clutch wheelie is easy in first and you have to do a little of both in second.

Just curious, how feasible is a 2nd gear wheelie on a Kawasaki ZX6E? I'd be trying it sitting down and boucing it. Or would it even be possible to bounce?

Just curious, how feasible is a 2nd gear wheelie on a Kawasaki ZX6E? I'd be trying it sitting down and boucing it. Or would it even be possible to bounce? That's a heavy bike with not allot of power in comparison. I've never tried it nor have even seen it done. Not saying its imposable but, I think it would be hard. I've been told that first is tricky to get up with out tire spin on a bike like that.

:iagree: and coming from somebody that has wheelied many a mile on a Gixxer 6. With stock gearing, Higher reves are needed for the bounce. Clutch wheelie is easy in first and you have to do a little of both in second. i DONT RECOMMEND that wheelie noobs try clutching first gear.:yikes:

i DONT RECOMMEND that wheelie noobs try clutching first gear.:yikes: :iagree: I don't recommend a newbie to do wheelies at all but, we know its inevitable.:crazy:

:iagree: I don't recommend a newbie to do wheelies at all but, we know its inevitable.:crazy: That's me... I don't even like telling them anything online... its just not a good idea... its bad enough in person...but online its just too hard to explain and somebody ( :whistle: bulldog) is going to crash and get hurt!

That's me... I don't even like telling them anything online... its just not a good idea... its bad enough in person...but online its just too hard to explain and somebody ( :whistle: bulldog) is going to crash and get hurt! :iagree: love to help but unless i am there watching and giving advice, i must keep my mouth shut.

wheelies come in time ......get comfortable with the bike and you'll know when your ready to pop that wheel in the air.....granted you can pop it up with little effort on a 1000 but it get's a little more skill involved with the throttle out throttle in with a fork rebound ......it's all timing.......you'll get the hang of it give it time

omg. dont listen. go read www.stuntlife.com i guess i've never done wheelies on a 600, but 8k seems pretty high. i have a 929 and can do power wheelies in first at 4k..just going at about 25 steady throttle, then get off the gas, then back on the gas..as he said power wheelies come up quick. Then how can you tell him not to listen if you've never done a wheelie on a 600? 600's don't have the low end torque that your 929 has and they require higher revs.

:iagree: I don't recommend a newbie to do wheelies at all but, we know its inevitable.:crazy: I wouldn't consider myself a noob anymore, and i still don't wheelie on purpose.

I wouldn't consider myself a noob anymore, and i still don't wheelie on purpose. :dthumb:

I wouldn't consider myself a noob anymore, and i still don't wheelie on purpose. Exactly... you are one with your common sense!

Then how can you tell him not to listen if you've never done a wheelie on a 600? 600's don't have the low end torque that your 929 has and they require higher revs. okay well ive wheelied my girls 600RR, but not on the regular and i'm pretty sure i clutched it up in 2nd at 6k with no bounce, just my left foot on the back peg (staggard stance). but ssshhhh. dont tell my girl. :yikes:

just cause i dont want anybody to do what i did. http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72156 remember keep your right foot over the brake in case you go too high. just hit the brake to bring her back down.

just cause i dont want anybody to do what i did. http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72156 remember keep your right foot over the brake in case you go too high. just hit the brake to bring her back down. You have to register to view that thread. Its is very important to keep the rear break covered when attempting to wheelie. Search the Beginners section here on TWF for several other threads on this subject.

yes. i was correct. 2nd gear. 6k. staggered stance. clutch. up she goes. :dthumb: its 45 today for the first time since Nov. so i had to ride somthing and my bikes are all apart. so i stole her bike and went on a 10 minute hell ride. and tested the wheelie theory i previously stated. THat IS correct. well on her bike anyway. its an 03 600RR.

sit down wheelies are going to be hard to do on a 600 in second gear without alot of clutch work. the easyest way to wheelie in second on a 600, would be to power shift it. first will wheelie easy with practice, remember,.....baby steps, give it alittle gas, see how hi the front wheel comes up, then alittle more gas, till the front wheel is as hi as you want it. go to my website, www.256north.com, we have lots of vids edited very well, we have 2 600cc bikes and a 929. check it out.

sit down wheelies are going to be hard to do on a 600 in second gear without alot of clutch work. the easyest way to wheelie in second on a 600, would be to power shift it. ^yes...if you want to get a new clutch every season. shifting thru wheelies without your clutch IS BAD! seriously. trust me, i did it, then my clutch plates started losing teeth, and i could hear em rattling around. if your gonna do power wheelies in first just ride em to the top of first. once you get that down and are comfortable, start learning to clutch up 2nd. its such a dif. feeling, but SO MUCH BETTER once you get the hang of it. I HATED it when i first started doing it, but now i even clutch up first!

Its all a matter of patience, practice and some how not killing your self learning.:crazy:

I wouldn't consider myself a noob anymore, and i still don't wheelie on purpose. :iagree: Same here. The only good wheelie is a pulling her up unitentionally coming out of a corner. I've done this a couple times even on my heavy ass 92. For a rock weighing in at well over 458 lbs. dry she's got enough power to bring it up if it wants too. Banging through gears, hopping on throttle a little too hard a little too soon is a recipe for corner exit one wheelers. :moped: Other than that I prefer to keep the front end where it belongs.

hey whats up, im new here i just got a bike its my first bike. im doing alright have not wiped-out yet its a 06 gsxr-1000. i have been wanting to try wheelies and stoppies is it simple or should i give myself more time to try?

^yes...if you want to get a new clutch every season. shifting thru wheelies without your clutch IS BAD! seriously. trust me, i did it, then my clutch plates started losing teeth, and i could hear em rattling around. speed shifting destroying clutchs? are you talking about not using your clutch while upshifting? i do that all the time on the track without any clutch plate damage. but each oil change, i would bead blast the clutch friction plates for better grip. i'm not sure how you can damage the clutch if you are bypassing it while shifting. it's usually popping the clutch at high RPM's that does the damage. doing wheelies constantly will always cause premature wear on your bike. -a|ex

I totaly agree back marker, The clutch is for starting and stopping anyway. you certainly dont need it to up shift and if you know what your doing you dont need it to go down either. Shifting in a wheelie is perfectly fine to do without the clutch.

:welcome: benek!!!

hey whats up, im new here i just got a bike its my first bike. im doing alright have not wiped-out yet its a 06 gsxr-1000. i have been wanting to try wheelies and stoppies is it simple or should i give myself more time to try? I would say get use to your bike. Then practice if thats what you want to do.

I can't really help you out either, I have a ZX12R Ninja and It really doesn't matter which gear or how fast....the front wheel just floats:yikes:

:welcome: benek:twfrox: I can't really help you out either, I have a ZX12R Ninja and It really doesn't matter which gear or how fast....the front wheel just floats:yikes: :welcome: Mikey:twfrox: and :iagree: same with my R1, however lowering the bike a 1/2 helped out a little with it not pulling up the front end so bad.

:2cents: (new to 'treads') New riders (like self) want to get the front up/ its a transition from incomp to what everyone sees on the cover of bike mags> look like a pro to all those passer-byes. 1 week of even touching a bike.. I had the front up 12 o'clock!.. (PRO!).. except I didnt know how to get er back down?!:yikes: and racked the heck out of the "boyz". I find it easy now to power up the front on a 600 by scootin back on the seat.. and dropin the throttle (sends weight foward/compress struts) and hit the throttle.. should bring er up~!.. even on a lower torque bike.. 03 F4i hotbodies UT/two Bro. FULL/PCIIIusb/KN/-1 crushdrive/paint.and +

:welcome: Twisttool!

Yeah...:welcome:...but it MAY be best to get a few more miles in the saddle before you start getting lofty w/ the front end.:2cents:

I would say get use to your bike. Then practice if thats what you want to do. I would say alot of things...none of which would be how to do a wheelie or stoppie if the 1k is your first bike (or any first bike for that matter). I think I'll stay away from this one...

:welcome: to all the :noob:'s that want to start out on one wheel.:crazy: I hope you guys survive long enough to learn how to ride on two wheels. Ok, rant off.

I have a 2004 cbr600rr. To clutch it up in second I have to travel at 38mph rev up to about 9K rpm and she will come right on up. First gear is all power. Just a couple quick revs and then open throttle. All I have is a K&N filter and a Jardine RT-1 slip-on. Be careful not to flip backwards.

:welcome: And to make sure you don't flip it over...keep your foot over the back brake.... one quick stab at that and she'll come down fast!

:welcome: jsj...be careful!

WATCH THIS VID very informative about learning how to get that wheel up (and stay up) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6656191590638402466&q=genre%3Ainstructional+motorcycle narrated by none other than Dave Sonsky (now working for 2WT)

:welcome: Sonic

the gear i'd recommend u do it in is full gear..... pants nad jacket, lid and glove and boots..... jk... well not really.. Do it dsafe. work at it slow and stay protected when u do it

WATCH THIS VID very informative about learning how to get that wheel up (and stay up) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6656191590638402466&q=genre%3Ainstructional+motorcycle narrated by none other than Dave Sonsky (now working for 2WT) :welcome: to TWF and just like he (Dave Sonsky) said. "Too much too soon means you get hurt".

:welcome: to TWF and just like he (Dave Sonsky) said. "Too much too soon means you get hurt". :iagree:

so if you don't suggest newbies trying to learn to wheely, how should i go about learning to wheely. i can wheely all day on a dirt bike (i know it's a dirt bike) but i'm too scared to try on my bike on the street, what do you experts advise

I advise keeping the front wheel where it belongs...on the pavement.

I advise keeping the front wheel where it belongs...on the pavement. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Tell that to Rossi.

so if you don't suggest newbies trying to learn to wheely, how should i go about learning to wheely. i can wheely all day on a dirt bike (i know it's a dirt bike) but i'm too scared to try on my bike on the street, what do you experts advise this thread is old...Read the rest of the posts not just this page...There is some good and very bad advice in this one...Look for newer

http://www.twowheelforum.com/showthread.php?p=215170#post215170 Try that one

so if you don't suggest newbies trying to learn to wheely, how should i go about learning to wheely. i can wheely all day on a dirt bike (i know it's a dirt bike) but i'm too scared to try on my bike on the street, what do you experts advise it's up to each individual to decide when they expect to crash. as a newbie or as an experienced rider... stunt bikes are crash bikes. if you don't mind crashing your new bike, then go for it. i would suggest conditioning your body for crashes. this means routine exercising. when i taught my kids to skateboard, i had them do falling excercises (same ones i learned in Akido). it's always sad to see newbies crash a brand new bike doing wheelies. if you are determined to learn the correct way, i would also suggest modifying your bike for stunting. this would include, sprocket gear change, removal/replacement of mirrors and turnsignals, replace OEM plastics with aftermarket, installing crash bars and a tail bar (12 o'clock bar). also, don't forget your body armour. -a|ex

Fur your bike and your helmet so normal riders can spot and avoid you when you are out in front of them, keep some duct tape handy, and don't forget to authorize yourself as an organ donor. :whistle:

I love to see people give advice on something they dont do. Just because you dont or cant wheelie, does not mean that another person cant or wont. I personally love to wheelie and stoppie. I dont have a crash cage or a 12 bar. Ive been doing this stuff on all 3 of my bikes and never have crashed, Knock on wood. So I say, if you wanna learn and do them, talk to people who actually do. Go get some advice from them. And the biggest thing is to take your time. It took me quite a while to learn to do them controlled, but I had fun along the way.:2cents:

:iagree: Same here. The only good wheelie is a pulling her up unitentionally coming out of a corner. I've done this a couple times even on my heavy ass 92. For a rock weighing in at well over 458 lbs. dry she's got enough power to bring it up if it wants too. Banging through gears, hopping on throttle a little too hard a little too soon is a recipe for corner exit one wheelers. :moped: Other than that I prefer to keep the front end where it belongs. :iagree:

I love to see people give advice on something they dont do. Just because you dont or cant wheelie, does not mean that another person cant or wont. I personally love to wheelie and stoppie. I dont have a crash cage or a 12 bar. Ive been doing this stuff on all 3 of my bikes and never have crashed, Knock on wood. So I say, if you wanna learn and do them, talk to people who actually do. Go get some advice from them. And the biggest thing is to take your time. It took me quite a while to learn to do them controlled, but I had fun along the way.:2cents: you miss understood the main point. i have no problems teaching a veteran rider how to wheelie. but teaching a newbie that don't have the feel for the bike or hasn't learned to balance themself will only end up bad. the fastest way to learn to wheelie is on a crash bike, be it a newbie or veteran. as for my experience doing wheelies, i used to ride with a group of nuts back-in-the-days in ohio (starboyz). i've seen many newbies flip the bike over. i even flipped the bike over. i've also slipped off the tank. i think i've destroyed about 5 bikes. i quit stunting and running from cops when i found the race track. I love to see people give advice on something they dont do ...I sure hope you weren't referring to me... -a|ex

you miss understood the main point. i have no problems teaching a veteran rider how to wheelie. but teaching a newbie that don't have the feel for the bike or hasn't learned to balance themself will only end up bad. the fastest way to learn to wheelie is on a crash bike, be it a newbie or veteran. as for my experience doing wheelies, i used to ride with a group of nuts back-in-the-days in ohio (starboyz). i've seen many newbies flip the bike over. i even flipped the bike over. i've also slipped off the tank. i think i've destroyed about 5 bikes. i quit stunting and running from cops when i found the race track. I love to see people give advice on something they dont do ...I sure hope you weren't referring to me... -a|ex I completely agree with you. And no, I wasnt directing anything at you personally or anyone else for that matter. I just hate it when people try to discourage people from stunting or learning to stunt. It feels like all people ever give praise to is the guy who can drag a knee doing 120mph or the streets but cut down on people whol like to stunt. I personally like to do both, but prefer stunting because of the lower risk factor for me. If I hurt myself low speed stunting, thats my problem. But If I hurt someone else by taking corners too fast, then Its not just my problem.

personally, I used to wheelie my bikes...I could even wheelie my old CB 750's... Now, I have other pressures on my resources...crashed bikes are expensive to fix... Have you ever noticed how much children can eat???

personally, I used to wheelie my bikes...I could even wheelie my old CB 750's... Now, I have other pressures on my resources...crashed bikes are expensive to fix... Have you ever noticed how much children can eat??? And they have that annoying habit outgrowing clothes and needing new ones....

Wheeling does take some practice , i took my time to wheelie as i kept telling my friends keep ur mind in ur head and not on ur wrist.. too bad some didnt listen :bash:

And they have that annoying habit outgrowing clothes and needing new ones.... :lol:

i just got my bike like 2 months ago, and had never ridden a street bike before, although i did grow up riding dirt bikes. i started trying wheelies about 2 weeks ago, and i can now power up a wheelie and ride it for probably a hundred yards, and i get my rpms to about 6,000 and then let off

i just got my bike like 2 months ago, and had never ridden a street bike before, although i did grow up riding dirt bikes. i started trying wheelies about 2 weeks ago, and i can now power up a wheelie and ride it for probably a hundred yards, and i get my rpms to about 6,000 and then let off I have a friend who started on dirt bikes and he learned how to wheelie them, then changing gear, now he owns a gixxer 750 and he now wheelies for 10 miles easy. it was a good start.

I have a friend who started on dirt bikes and he learned how to wheelie them, then changing gear, now he owns a gixxer 750 and he now wheelies for 10 miles easy. it was a good start. 10 miles easy?? I don't care how good you are, 10 miles is quite a stretch of distance and seems a tad unrealistic. Maybe I'm wrong, but I gotta call :wbs: .

If you're running mostly straight Highway at 100 mph, it's only about 6 minutes.. I know people who are comfortable doing that... I couldn't but some can.

10 miles easy?? I don't care how good you are, 10 miles is quite a stretch of distance and seems a tad unrealistic. Maybe I'm wrong, but I gotta call :wbs: . you think 10 miles is long? we have ppl here who live on one wheel, it just gets crazier and crazier. The thing i have noticed though after a strech like that with him he gets tired. I do have a vid on tape of it, it gets boring looking at it after 10 mins though.

Like I said, I could be wrong. 10 miles is alot to most people. Maybe it's because my wheelies suck and are like 10 feet long. :wink: :cheers:

Like I said, I could be wrong. 10 miles is alot to most people. Maybe it's because my wheelies suck and are like 10 feet long. :wink: :cheers: You'll get the hang of it man, i mean i cant wheelie for 10 miles, my wheelies are short and sweet i think the max i wheelied was 1 mile in 3rd gear but im happy with that. Good luck , you will get the hang of it. stay confident :dthumb:

Yea i have seen people wheelie for very long distances....but watch out the motor will take a crap if you keep doing it because of the placment of the oil pickup in the case....no oil tot he pickup mean knockin rods and premature wear.

10 miles easy?? I don't care how good you are, 10 miles is quite a stretch of distance and seems a tad unrealistic. Maybe I'm wrong, but I gotta call :wbs: . :iagree: The oil light usually comes on after only a mile or so.:cursin:

I believe it was R1upon1 that mentioned that he took apart the bike to reposition the suction hoses so that they are not aimed towards the front of the oil resevoir to the rear so that in a wheelie situation it would be able to get oil even if it was up on one.. 10 miles i call Shennanaganz* .........

No i have seen 6 miles so i dont thin that 10 is unrealistic.

Yeah, the oil light does come on, what they do here is actually just add more oil, and in alot of cases, what i have seen them do is they lower it to like 10oclock wheelie for a bit then bring it to 12 oclock, they make it look easy... i think ill stick to my short 1 mile wheelies :leaving:

yeah i can now wheelie fairly well, but i ride an f4i... so i have absolutely no problems with oil circulation... its a very good stunt bike from what i have heard and read about it online...

yeah i can now wheelie fairly well, but i ride an f4i... so i have absolutely no problems with oil circulation... its a very good stunt bike from what i have heard and read about it online... The F4i is the best bike out there to wheelie and stunt on. It has plenty of power and no oil circulation problems.:cheers:

The F4i is the best bike out there to wheelie and stunt on. It has plenty of power and no oil circulation problems.:cheers: :iagree: :withstupi :iagree: :withstupi :iagree: :withstupi :iagree: :withstupi

I guess the F4I and the 600RR are very similar. I love wheelies.

just thought I'd throw that out there

I guess the F4I and the 600RR are very similar. I love wheelies. They are pretty close. The onl difference I have found is that the motor on the RR sits a few MMs further forward which makes it a lil more difficult than on the F4i. Its setup that way for better turn in and less wheelies for racing. Also, the F4i has stock gearing already higher than the RR. It uses a 46 rear as compared to a 43 on the RR.

ah I see, the guy I bought the bike from already had a 46 on there. I guess I've never driven an F4I but have heard that they are sort of the same.

Guess I don't have that much experiance switcing gears around and such but I'll try to do the math. 46/43 = 1.07, so like a 7% increase in torque. With 45.4 ft lbs at 11k, that's like 3.2 more foot pounds at the tire. How big of an effect does that have? Also, what happens to your top end speed and ability to perform on the track? Also, since I'm not a big wheelie person (although I do like to come out of a turn skippin the front tire on the acceleration pretending I am in the AMA... who doesn't do that seriously) I have to pose this question cause it's never made sense to me. Whenever someone asks, I have a midrange cc duca-suzuka-yama-honda, how do I get the front wheel up? Everyone always responds with take her up to 9k rock the throttle to compress the springs and hit it. Are the people answering these questions all rockin liter bikes? Max torque on a liter bike is around 8.5 krpm so it makes sense to rock the throttle at 9k to get the bounce at 8-8.5 krpm. Wouldn't you do this at about 11.5 krpm on a 600? That doesn't leave much Tach left tho.

They are pretty close. The onl difference I have found is that the motor on the RR sits a few MMs further forward which makes it a lil more difficult than on the F4i. Its setup that way for better turn in and less wheelies for racing. Also, the F4i has stock gearing already higher than the RR. It uses a 46 rear as compared to a 43 on the RR. Thats interesting because I can pull up the RR quicker than I can the F4I.

Guess I don't have that much experiance switcing gears around and such but I'll try to do the math. 46/43 = 1.07, so like a 7% increase in torque. With 45.4 ft lbs at 11k, that's like 3.2 more foot pounds at the tire. How big of an effect does that have? Also, what happens to your top end speed and ability to perform on the track? Also, since I'm not a big wheelie person (although I do like to come out of a turn skippin the front tire on the acceleration pretending I am in the AMA... who doesn't do that seriously) I have to pose this question cause it's never made sense to me. Whenever someone asks, I have a midrange cc duca-suzuka-yama-honda, how do I get the front wheel up? Everyone always responds with take her up to 9k rock the throttle to compress the springs and hit it. Are the people answering these questions all rockin liter bikes? Max torque on a liter bike is around 8.5 krpm so it makes sense to rock the throttle at 9k to get the bounce at 8-8.5 krpm. Wouldn't you do this at about 11.5 krpm on a 600? That doesn't leave much Tach left tho. I'm on a 2k4 CBR600RR and at around 10k in 3rd gear I bounce and wheelie (standup). If you do it right then you should be able to hold the wheel up at around 12k or so. After that you are going too fast anyways and you get speed wobble (SCARY AS HELL).

I have heard of the power wheelie and the clutch wheelie. I know how those are also performed but whats with this pulling the bike up technique. Why is it when I watch some videos of people doing wheelie I looks as if the guys are snatching the bike up into the air? i agree sir im on my first bike myself, i cant get my wheeles right either. one day at the same rpm it comes up like a bat out of hell, and some days just enouf to fall back down. the whole wheeles things i still trying but not close yet. plus i think alot has to do full tank or not. i drive a zx6rr 03, my friend had a zx6r 636, a much better bike for stunting. i had to change my spockets to keep up with him. i wish yea the best if u find a good way holla at me because im still working on mine too. thanks for your time

yeah how full your tank is makes a huge difference in wheelies.. nad the RPM range that it comes up.. Practice practice practice... youll learn to adjust the rpm for the tank.... for 2nd gear or ups... just do em with the tank half full or less, when u fill it up, just wait till u ride it out to practice, that way it is more consistant.