Any Petite women rider in here?

I am 5'2 and i have trouble riding...and i never see any1 my size ride a motorcycle b4. Please give me some hope!

I've seen a couple of girls who are barely 5ft that ride sport bikes (unlowered at that:yikes: ). I wouldn't recommend it to someone I care for, but if there's a will, there's a way. Being short limits your options a lot. A lot of short women would go to the Harleys or metric cruisers just because of the height issue. And on a sport bike, you can lower the suspension considerably. However, this action will cost a good amount of money if you were to want to do the job right instead of just changing out the dogleg. You'd need lowered shocks and possibly cut down the forks. Just changing out the dogleg alone usually change the bike's handling characteristic enough to make it a hazard for a person to ride sportively. If you just want to putt-putt along then it wouldn't matter too much. My niece at 5ft1 can ride the Kawasaki Ninja 250 just fine. She has to wear boots with some heels and thick soles. A saleswoman at SoCal Ducati who is barely 5ft tall has her Ducati Monster 620 lowered considerably. If there's a will, there's a way. It just costs more, that's all.

That new Ninja 650R is really low as well.

i am only 5'2", maybe 5'3". i have a kawasaki zx636. i was concerned about the height and weight when i bought it, but i got me a set of the dog bone lowering links. to be honest, i haven't noticed any severe changes in handling, and i don't just putt putt around either. the links have served me well, i can touch on the balls of my feet with them (tip of tippy toes without). they are easy to install and relatively cheap (less than $100). with a set of these you should have no problem handling the bike. however, i strongly recommend starting on a 250 if this is your 1st time/bike. i had 2 of them before stepping up to the 636. they are rather light and very manageable for learning, and the seat height is a bit lower. you can do it girlfriend. no need for a cruiser bike. now get out there and get yours! :dthumb:

:welcome: Time for a trip to the dealerships and throw your leg over some bikes.... if you find one that is at least close to what you want/need you can always lower it to get that extra bit!

i forgot to mention that i am only 98lbs:nonod: I luvs the ducati monster...I sat on a bimota db1 fits like a gloves BUT the power throws me off the bike. Now i have a scooter aka Cagiva mito on my list (65mph, sad uh?)..hopefully i can upgrade to monster next yr. I am an Italian bike fanatic- thank guys

i'm 5'0 i ride an 05 gsxr 600 lowered 1 1/2" with boots and still on my tipy toes, but ive learned to stop with one foot. I really dont get your question but feel free to Pm me if u like. I been riding for almost 2 years, i've been to the mountains on my bike. Blood mountain and others. My boyfriend KP on the board is prepping my bike now for my first track day :dthumb: I just purchased my leathers from speedwerks and its awesome! BTW I have trouble parking lots of times because of the not being able to touch on both sides to manuver my bike. Most of the time I try to park uphill so u can roll back. Other times I push the bike back with one foot and lean the bike a tad. I keep my right foot on the brake, then sometimes my roommate pushes my bike back while I am sitting on it which helps alot. If I have any trouble there are usually people around to help me. Once I had my bike parked on a hill in a parking lot and it was leaned over far.. so far I couldnt get it up so some guy wlaking by I asked him for a little help so he pushed the bike a tad over for me. This was at a bike night so it was ok he wasnt just some stranger walking by :-)

Even tho I'm not as small as some of the other women here, I am vertically challenged also. I'm 5'5" and 105 lbs. and I have no problem with most bikes weight. As for the seat, that's a different story. Most sportbike inseams range 31" +. I personally would never recommend lowing links. I don't like them nor trust them. Some of the people here have no problems with them, but at one time I did have one installed and it really messed with the handling, especially in cornering which is what I LOVE to do. No one here mentioned shaving the seat. I just purchased 2 06' 600RR's and I'm having a problem with touching the ground. I can place most of the ball of my foot (not feet) on the ground, but I still feel unstable. I'm taking the seat off this week end and shaving a good 1' (inch) off. I like to have both feet planted firmly on the ground. Look into shaving the seat before using lowering links. Just my :2cents:

My girlfriend is 5'1, 108, and rides a Ninja 250 as her first bike. We are having it lowered at the dealership for her. She could ride it, but it was tippy toed with normal shoes. She needed one or the other, and I figured lowering it and having her buy bigger shoes would be the best option all around.

My wife (FireNIce) is 5'2" and rode a GSXR 600 till I sold it. She did use lowering links and I did shave the seat. I also lowered front and rear equally. The only negative effects was a major loss in ground clearance. Mostly and issue while in the corners.

The only negative effects was a major loss in ground clearance. Mostly and issue while in the corners. See that's what scares me the most. YIKES! Honestly I would rather shave as much of the seat as I could or have one custom made. An issue in cornering is not an option, at least for me.

:welcome: I am 5'2" as well but thankfully I have really long legs!! I could only put the ball of my foot on the ground on the 600 i got first but then I went to a 250 and had no problems!! My friend is the same size but has short legs and she could touch comfortably on the 250 as well, but both of us wear boots with a fairly thick sole and at least an inch heel. I wear a two inch heel and my legs bend when I am sitting on my 250, keep in mind, if you buy a new bike, especially the 250's my friends and I have all noticed that after you ride it a bit and break it in it will actually sit lower than right off the floor!! I have another gf that just bought one also and she is only 5'0" and is doing AWESOME on the 250!! :dthumb: I have the dog bone lowering links on the 600 and we dropped it just an inch and it has not changed the handling or the clearance noticably, but thats just my bike!! But since we did that I can sit it as well as or better than my 250 even!!! :willy:

:welcome: I am 5'2" as well but thankfully I have really long legs!! I could only put the ball of my foot on the ground on the 600 i got first but then I went to a 250 and had no problems!! My friend is the same size but has short legs and she could touch comfortably on the 250 as well, but both of us wear boots with a fairly thick sole and at least an inch heel. I wear a two inch heel and my legs bend when I am sitting on my 250, keep in mind, if you buy a new bike, especially the 250's my friends and I have all noticed that after you ride it a bit and break it in it will actually sit lower than right off the floor!! I have another gf that just bought one also and she is only 5'0" and is doing AWESOME on the 250!! :dthumb: I have the dog bone lowering links on the 600 and we dropped it just an inch and it has not changed the handling or the clearance noticably, but thats just my bike!! But since we did that I can sit it as well as or better than my 250 even!!! :willy: You have still yet to show us that thing pink. I want to see it completed. My girlfriend thought that was pretty cool. She is just starting to ride with me on my bike a little and I told her if she ever wanted to get her own I would help her as much as I could including putting her in MSF first.

I'd wholeheartedly recommend starting on the Ninja 250 until you're comfortable with riding. The little 250 is very light and easy to handle even if you're on the ball of both feet. If you don't have enough legs to sit on the bike and push it around then just hop off and walk the bike. I really don't understand the reasoning behind short people trying to lean this way and that way to try to push the bike around with only one foot. I'm not too short (5ft6) but I have short legs, so I simply swallow my pride and hop off the bikes every time I stop to maneuver them. I'm on one-foot with most sport bikes and ball/tippy toe with both feet. Once you learn to handle the bike, balancing on one foot is no longer a big deal. I can ride those massive KTM and BMW adventure bikes just fine and I'm on the ball of one foot on those biggies. Just start with a light bike and work yourself up.

You have still yet to show us that thing pink. I want to see it completed. My girlfriend thought that was pretty cool. She is just starting to ride with me on my bike a little and I told her if she ever wanted to get her own I would help her as much as I could including putting her in MSF first. weeellll, thats cuz it still in a million pieces:nonod: ...I will update my old thread from when I first got it...so see that one later...BUT i did post pics of the pieces that are painted and ready to just put back together...it is going to be the best looking bike ever!! IMO, course I am a lil biased!! :lol:

and where is your GF Vol, she should be on here chatting me up!! And the other ladies!!

I'd wholeheartedly recommend starting on the Ninja 250 until you're comfortable with riding. The little 250 is very light and easy to handle even if you're on the ball of both feet. If you don't have enough legs to sit on the bike and push it around then just hop off and walk the bike. I really don't understand the reasoning behind short people trying to lean this way and that way to try to push the bike around with only one foot. I'm not too short (5ft6) but I have short legs, so I simply swallow my pride and hop off the bikes every time I stop to maneuver them. I'm on one-foot with most sport bikes and ball/tippy toe with both feet. Once you learn to handle the bike, balancing on one foot is no longer a big deal. I can ride those massive KTM and BMW adventure bikes just fine and I'm on the ball of one foot on those biggies. Just start with a light bike and work yourself up. As for the whole one foot and manuevering the bike, moving a big bike (not my 250) around when I cant touch even enough to back it up scares the :yikes: outta me, i dont know how ya'll do it, or the other small women, it just doesnt seem safe!! What if you step in gravel, whoom, down ya go! scary...

I will try to get her on here. I don't know how she will react to my rants though. Everytime I start to go on one, she tells me to shut up or risk the consequences. So needless to say she has never see me go on for awhile. She probably won't like my avatar too much either.

My wife (FireNIce) is 5'2" and rode a GSXR 600 till I sold it. She did use lowering links and I did shave the seat. I also lowered front and rear equally. The only negative effects was a major loss in ground clearance. Mostly and issue while in the corners. :iagree: (and thanks again Jeeps) I am the same height and ride a GSXR 600. I did all the same to my bike. I have had no issues with ground clearance, since I lowerd it only 1.5 inches. I feel the issue with the corners on lowered bikes, is that you feel you are leaning more than you actally are, possibly from the center of gravity being lower. Or you lean to much and drag a part (which I have never done, I do not ride aggresive at all)

Hi all! I'm new to the forum, but thougth I'd put my 2 cents in on this one for my first post..... I'm 5'2" and I ride a stock height '06 R6S. I can get the balls of my feet down with my riding boots on and feel pretty stable and comfortable with that. I've chosen not to lower it, and while I haven't found the height to be a problem at this point, if I did in the future, shaving the seat is where I'd start. I don't tend to roll around or back up with just one foot, but I will just get off and roll it around where I need to if I need to. No shame in that......I've also had people push me - like backing into a parking spot that I'm a couple feet shy of. I got my R6S about a month ago and the light weight is a plus. Before that, I rode a Katana stock height. The Katana was a little lower (seat height), but it was much heavier. I've also been on a GSXR600 and found that height somewhere between the Katana and R6S. So...like someone else said, go to a dealership and sit on different bikes. That's basically what I did. There's hope for us shorties yet!! :dthumb:

:welcome: But i have yet to hear of anybody happy with the seat shaved...

:welcome: But i have yet to hear of anybody happy with the seat shaved... after my trip this weekend, and as non comfy as my seat is already, :yikes: i dont know how anyone could shave it and be happy if they do any amount of riding!!

Another alternative to seat shaving is to send the seat to a saddle specialist and have them install better foams on that are much thinner than the crappy factory foams yet still comfortable. Corbin will do this for you, as is Sargent, Bill Mayer, Rick Mayer, etc.

Actually it would be a gel material that is what you want!

I have a shaved seat and ride fine with it.. no complaints I ride for hours at a time.. ride the north ga mountains and it takes at least 4-5 hours to ride to.. up.. down and back from the mountains. I have not once complained my butt hurts.

just get some lowering links and a pair of stripper shoes... those will add about 6 inches of height... just kidding about the stripper shoes...

See that's what scares me the most. YIKES! Honestly I would rather shave as much of the seat as I could or have one custom made. An issue in cornering is not an option, at least for me. The ground clearance was only an issue in extreme ridding from me. She never rode it to the point of worrying about it.

I just found out Suzuki has an OEM lower seat. Supposedly 1.5" difference. That drops the SV650S to 30.2, which should be balls of the feet for me 5'2". I'll post an update once I get it installed. I just ordered it. I'm trying to avoid the lowering links if I can. It's only around $75 So not alot of money to make this adjustment.

That new Ninja 650R is really low as well. My girls 5'3" and she had a hard time lifting it off the stand. I had to help her get it up. It's a little heavy.

after my trip this weekend, and as non comfy as my seat is already, :yikes: i dont know how anyone could shave it and be happy if they do any amount of riding!! Keep in mind you're on a Honda. The RR's seat feels like plywood.

I am 4" 11" and about 103 pounds. I am in the process of getting my bike license now. My boyfriend is alwys riding so i figured I would take a stab at it. I hope have evrything squared away by the end of the summer so next year its all riding. Anyone has any advice on bike and technique? Thanks!~

oolilbitzoo check the numerous threads in the beginners corner....there is a TON of info there. Is your BF on TWF? If not, howcome? Bring him on and have him put you as a referal.

:iagree: If you need to modify I would start the cheapest and most simple solutions that won't change the riding characteristics of your bike.

Based on the subject alone... :nopicsbs:

:withstupi

I just found out Suzuki has an OEM lower seat. Supposedly 1.5" difference. That drops the SV650S to 30.2, which should be balls of the feet for me 5'2". I'll post an update once I get it installed. I just ordered it. I'm trying to avoid the lowering links if I can. It's only around $75 So not alot of money to make this adjustment. you can get the adjustable lowering links like I did... so U can lower it 1/2" or whatever you feel comfortable at... the dog bones have 3 holes.. stock height, lowered 1 inch and lowered 3 inches. You wont have a problem with ground clearance or cornering unless your on the track doing 150mph around a corner.. you will be ok

The seat dropped the SV enough for me. I have absolutely no intention of messing with my suspension. Pics on the seat are located on the "Need to Lower my SV650S (http://www.twowheelforum.com/showthread.php?t=10685)" thread

That new Ninja 650R is really low as well. As a friend of someone who has a 650R at stock height, and being 5' 3.5" with short legs, I was very "tippy-toed" trying to crab-walk it. I would definitely need it lowered. My girls 5'3" and she had a hard time lifting it off the stand. I had to help her get it up. It's a little heavy. From what I've been told, it weighs about 400 lbs and is apparently one of the lighter ones out there. But yes, 400 lbs is very heavy for girls my size. :eek: Looks like I need to eat my Wheaties... I have another friend with a Kawasaki Vulcan 1500. I'd never be able to move that thing.

In terms of comfort, us fellas have to keep in mind the female anatomy... Generally speaking the ladies have a little more padding in the rear (that's as politically correct as I could put it)... They might have as much trouble with those lower profile seats... Also, women have a higher threshold for discomfort and pain (helllooooo childbirth), so that should be taken into consideration as well.

In terms of comfort, us fellas have to keep in mind the female anatomy... Generally speaking the ladies have a little more padding in the rear (that's as politically correct as I could put it)... They might have as much trouble with those lower profile seats... Also, women have a higher threshold for discomfort and pain (helllooooo childbirth), so that should be taken into consideration as well. yeah, we don't have danglies to pinch either...

yeah, we don't have danglies to pinch either... :withstupi that was my thought upon reading his post...actually I find that even with my stock "cardboard seat I am fairly comfy...most guys arent on my bike, but many guys think I sit way to far forward, maybe I dont have enough "padding" to fill up my whole seat!! :lol:

I can say that I fear no bump while in my 1-peice. It keeps the "package" tucked up nice. It doesn't feel like a tipee everytime I hit a bump.

im 5'2" at first it was really hard to ride, my mate was teachin me to ride on his daytona 650 and i just got the hang of stopping with 1 foot, the weight can be an issue if im buggered, when i get my licence ill try to figure out the best bike 4 me to buy, i have no idea what bikes are good for lil riders...

im 5'2" and it was hard for me to ride at first especially because of the wieght but its all good now:cheers:

Welcome!!! we are glad to have another lady onsite!! You might try some of the 250's, 500's or a lowered 600...

I'm 5'2" and I'm on an SV650S Suzuki makes a lower seat assembly which just gives us tippy toes on both sides. But if you're used to only one foot it makes it perfectly comfortable. If you keep one foot on the pegs, you can almost go flat foot on the other. Let me know if you need the part number. It's actually listed as 10mm difference, but it has a different profile it actuall gives you 30-35mm in actual difference at your foot. I didn't have to mess with my suspension at all.

Im only 5'0". I have a 03 R6, lowered the back 2", shaved the seat & lowered the front 2". The ground clearance sucks but I still can drag knees to a point before the foot pegs drag on the ground. It would be nice to be flat footed on the ground @ a stop but being on your tippie toes isnt bad, or just lean more on one side and one foot will be flat on the ground.

Why would you need a flat foot on the ground? Unless you were so tired from the day of riding that your legs were shaking (in which case it's time to stop anyway) Tippy toes are enough to steady the bike, and that's all you need. I might go custom seat becuase the stock lower seat has a few pressure points, but I'm not changing a thing on my set up.

im 5'2" at first it was really hard to ride, my mate was teachin me to ride on his daytona 650 and i just got the hang of stopping with 1 foot, the weight can be an issue if im buggered, when i get my licence ill try to figure out the best bike 4 me to buy, i have no idea what bikes are good for lil riders... :scratch: what does "buggered" mean?

:scratch: what does "buggered" mean? Tired or startled... If she's not all there the weight of the bike can be a problem when she can only get one foot down.

i guess it is just a matter of personal preference but I dont see how anyone can think they are in control of a bike that they cant get at least one foot flat on the ground on...:scratch: if it starts to go and you arent ready for it and only have tippy toes on the ground there is no way in h3ll you are gonna be able to control the fall, i.e. what if you are tippy toeing on an oil slick?? I am speaking from personal experience as well...IMHO it would be safer for a woman to at least have the bike where she can get one foot comfortably flat on the ground for a good base to lean on, preferably both! if this requires her to shave the seat, lower the bike, whatever, better that than an accident cuz her and the bike werent fit together properly... just my :2cents: (it may be I feel this way b/c my CBR RR is heavier than alot of bikes, but whatever...)

i guess it is just a matter of personal preference but I dont see how anyone can think they are in control of a bike that they cant get at least one foot flat on the ground on...:scratch: if it starts to go and you arent ready for it and only have tippy toes on the ground there is no way in h3ll you are gonna be able to control the fall, i.e. what if you are tippy toeing on an oil slick?? I am speaking from personal experience as well...IMHO it would be safer for a woman to at least have the bike where she can get one foot comfortably flat on the ground for a good base to lean on, preferably both! if this requires her to shave the seat, lower the bike, whatever, better that than an accident cuz her and the bike werent fit together properly... just my :2cents: (it may be I feel this way b/c my CBR RR is heavier than alot of bikes, but whatever...) who are you talking at? If it's at my previous comment, if I keep one foot on the pegs, the other is flat. But I prefer to maintain my balance with both tippies down.

who are you talking at? If it's at my previous comment, if I keep one foot on the pegs, the other is flat. But I prefer to maintain my balance with both tippies down. I am not "talking at" anyone, i am voicing my :2cents:

It sounded like you were replying to a specific post, the way you phrased it at the beginnning, and since we have about three conversations running in here now, I just wondered which one you were commenting on.. but if it's a general comment on bike fit and weight, cool.

It sounded like you were replying to a specific post, the way you phrased it at the beginnning, and since we have about three conversations running in here now, I just wondered which one you were commenting on.. but if it's a general comment on bike fit and weight, cool. :dthumb: nah, its more i was reading all the posts and wanted to put my :2cents: on the footing thing, it makes a huge difference on the bike i think as well as the women...I am 5'2" but I am mostly legs, so it was easier for me to flat foot versus 1 foot, and the fact that I have the tallest seat height and I think heaviest bike in the 600 hundred class (cept for Kanotuna, but not sure on that) and for me, in order to ride it comfy and safely at all times, I needed to have it lowered a bit, we went with the 1 inches on the dog bones and it is great, we didnt really have to adjust much else and the handling doesnt appear to be affected...i havent drug pegs yet, but I just got my Powers, so we will see how the pegs do then...but I am a huge advocate of doing whatever you need to do to a bike within safety bounds to make it safe for you to ride, and that means being able to safely touch in some manner :dthumb:

i guess it is just a matter of personal preference but I dont see how anyone can think they are in control of a bike that they cant get at least one foot flat on the ground on...:scratch: if it starts to go and you arent ready for it and only have tippy toes on the ground there is no way in h3ll you are gonna be able to control the fall, i.e. what if you are tippy toeing on an oil slick?? I am speaking from personal experience as well...IMHO it would be safer for a woman to at least have the bike where she can get one foot comfortably flat on the ground for a good base to lean on, preferably both! if this requires her to shave the seat, lower the bike, whatever, better that than an accident cuz her and the bike werent fit together properly... just my :2cents: (it may be I feel this way b/c my CBR RR is heavier than alot of bikes, but whatever...) :iagree: i'd love to have both feet on the ground if possible, but that won't happen for me. so i settle for the balls of both feet. that is after the dogbones. i was on tippy toes without those. i decided that i'd sacrifice a bit of suspension for peace of mind and a better footing. before that, i often placed one foot flat on the ground. however, doing so did sometimes throw me off balance a bit on takeoffs due to the weight being unevenly distributed.

Tired or startled... If she's not all there the weight of the bike can be a problem when she can only get one foot down. how'd you know that? do you speak australian or did you look it up? :dthumb:

how'd you know that? do you speak australian or did you look it up? :dthumb: i know it as well, i have had several friends from England and Australia and they use the term...i beleive it can also mean "screwed", as in "man, you are totally screwed/buggered!!" :lol:

yes, my roommate in college was from Austrailia.. had a green card even.. she didn't have an acent, but boy did her mother. It's usually used for "screwed" but that wasn't the usage above...

:iagree: i'd love to have both feet on the ground if possible, but that won't happen for me. so i settle for the balls of both feet. that is after the dogbones. i was on tippy toes without those. i decided that i'd sacrifice a bit of suspension for peace of mind and a better footing. before that, i often placed one foot flat on the ground. however, doing so did sometimes throw me off balance a bit on takeoffs due to the weight being unevenly distributed. That's why I prefer two sets of toes , I've been on sloped stop lights and not had problems yet. We'll see what happens after i switch up to racing boots, but for now I'm good.

Just curious but to all the petite riders, do you have a set of dog bones on your bikes set to the lowest setting?

No dog bones... just lower oem seat for me 5'2" 2006 SV650S.

No dog bones... just lower oem seat for me 5'2" 2006 SV650S. i have 3 holes, i use the middle one. the last hole i would be flat footed with, but 1 good bump and i rip my license plate off my undertail.

Well 5'2" is not "really" that short....for bike riding that is!

I buy my pants in the petit section, or take 'em to the tailor... under 5'6" is considered Petit in clothes.... About the same for bikes... 5'6" and above is comfortable on a std sport bike, the rest of us find some method of modification.

1badcbr = :bonk:

:iagree: with it and pucky....and to answer your question, i think mine is set on the first, but like i said earlier, i have really long legs so it isnt as much of a problem for me as it is for several of my friends, we are all the same height, but they have no legs!!! so they cant touch on my bike and I can flat foot both feet...

I was just wondering because my wife, when she sits on my bike, only one foot (toe) touches the ground. I have my dog bone set to the the middle setting. If I was to set it to the lowest setting, I'm truely scraping the ground when I ride a passenger.

i have 3 holes, i use the middle one. the last hole i would be flat footed with, but 1 good bump and i rip my license plate off my undertail. My words exactly!

i have 3 holes, i use the middle one. the last hole i would be flat footed with, but 1 good bump and i rip my license plate off my undertail. At first glance I thought this thread had gone WAY off acceptable...

Just curious but to all the petite riders, do you have a set of dog bones on your bikes set to the lowest setting? I went with the middle setting on my dog bones....on a GSXR 600..that drops the back @ 1.5 inches.. the front forks only needed to be lowered about 1 inch...I also saved the seat... After riding this way for a year...I had the front forks internally shortened (they no longer stick up through the triple tree). The bike rides so much better now :D. I was so amazed.

Im only 5'0". I have a 03 R6, lowered the back 2", shaved the seat & lowered the front 2". The ground clearance sucks but I still can drag knees to a point before the foot pegs drag on the ground. It would be nice to be flat footed on the ground @ a stop but being on your tippie toes isnt bad, or just lean more on one side and one foot will be flat on the ground. :cool: about dragging knee. I have always wondered about hard parts dragging on a lowered bike. Seems it will happen :(. Does your bike sit at the same angle as it did when it was stock height? Just seems add to me the front and the back were lowered equally. But I do not know anyone who rides a lowered R6.

:scratch: what does "buggered" mean? lol sorry, it means like tired, worn out it must be an aussie thing i guess:bonk:

i know it as well, i have had several friends from England and Australia and they use the term...i beleive it can also mean "screwed", as in "man, you are totally screwed/buggered!!" :lol: i never knew australian was so confusing in some places lol sorry guys:leaving:

i never knew australian was so confusing in some places lol sorry guys:leaving: please, keep 'em coming! i would love to add some new words to my vocabulary. i think it's fetch! :dthumb:

At first glance I thought this thread had gone WAY off acceptable... :lol: pervert :dthumb:

I was just wondering because my wife, when she sits on my bike, only one foot (toe) touches the ground. I have my dog bone set to the the middle setting. If I was to set it to the lowest setting, I'm truely scraping the ground when I ride a passenger. i have pretty much given up hope of hauling a full-size passenger, unless i raise the bike back up. i am waiting for my 7 year old daughter to get a bit taller to ride with me, but that's about it. i should be able to do that much. i don't wanna sacrifice a sure-footing just to give a joyride to someone. (woo hoo, triple post)

i have pretty much given up hope of hauling a full-size passenger, unless i raise the bike back up. i am waiting for my 7 year old daughter to get a bit taller to ride with me, but that's about it. i should be able to do that much. i don't wanna sacrifice a sure-footing just to give a joyride to someone. (woo hoo, triple post) makes sence to me! I don't really care for riding anyone either. I like to ride way too fast and to have to worry about someone on the back is not something that I like to do.

:lol: pervert :dthumb: Remember he is "sick" you know.....:wink:

:lol: pervert :dthumb: I resemble that remark...