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post #21 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-09-2007, 10:53 AM
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Suposedly they made a lot of changes in 06 but my 04 is as pretty poor for a bike with only 7K on it. I am not saying the trany is unusable but rather I can see no reason for it to feel like it is grinding going into second just because it is 95 Deg. outside and the bike is a little warm. Go Under the knowledge vault on bad weather bikers and you will see I am not alone. I am going to retro fit my clutch with the 06 parts to hopefully help with the situation but we will see.
My '07 shifts nearly as smoothly as my old Ninj... It's still in break-in too...
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Switching to synthetic oils will also help with this...




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Switching to synthetic oils will also help with this...
Already planning on doing so during my first service...
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I wouldn't suggest that. Most companies would not suggest synthetic oils till after 3,000 miles. When I switched on my chop.. I switch to synth oil in my primary, engine, and tranny. Haven't noticed any difference in the primary. But the motors valve train is quieter. And the tranny is smoother and less clunking.

I'm sorry but I don't know this next thing..

Does the Buells run seperate oils. engine, primary, tranny??? I might be able to give some good suggestions if so...




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Does the Buells run seperate oils. engine, primary, tranny??? I might be able to give some good suggestions if so...
Yes the engine oil is in the swing arm and the trany/primary oil is held in the primary cover. From the factory they have gear oil in the primary/Trany and motor oil in the motor/swingarm
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Since that Buell is owned by Harley-Davidson and Harley is controlling the money, you're not going to see a lot of research and development to be spent for hotrodding an engine for the Buells. Buell sales are not exactly spectacular so HD isn't going to spend the extra bucks (even though they can afford it). Say what you will about The Motor Company, they do know how to make money.

America's motorcycling pride isn't about making the fastest bikes any more. America's motorcycling pride is about "coolness" and "attitude", hence HD is selling like hot cakes to all of those people who grew up wanna be like Peter Fonda's Easy Rider or playing Billy Badass Hell's Angels marauders.

The supposedly hardcore riders claim that Harleys are made for long distance cruising. Pray tell then why is it that when I do interstate ridings I usually see Goldwings and BMW touring bikes (and a red Aprilia )?

Back in the days the Sportster was made to combat British sport bikes. The VR1000 made a brief appearance that made my heart fluttered and then HD took a stake to it like I was a vampire.

Believe it or not, Americans do want a competitive American sport bike. But the only joint that has the moolah to do so won't make it.

I'm not a mechanical engineer so I can't say with certainty, but I'm sure that with R&D even the 45-degree aircool V-twin can be made to be highly competitive. No, it will never put out the oomph of the watercooled V-twin or the watercooled I-4, but it can be made competitive. Just look at the BMW R1200S: 1200-cc aircooled flat twin churning out 122-hp and 82-lbft of torque. Kicking ass against the watercooled V-twin and competitive against the watercooled I-4. Who had ever heard of that? But BMW just placed mid-pack in the Le Mans endurance racing against Japanese and Italian liter I-4s. Hell, it even beat out the Ducati 1098 and the MV Agusta F4 1000.

All it takes is commitment and money from Harley-Davidson to make Buell great. But you won't see it.
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I wouldn't suggest that. Most companies would not suggest synthetic oils till after 3,000 miles. When I switched on my chop.. I switch to synth oil in my primary, engine, and tranny. Haven't noticed any difference in the primary. But the motors valve train is quieter. And the tranny is smoother and less clunking.

I'm sorry but I don't know this next thing..

Does the Buells run seperate oils. engine, primary, tranny??? I might be able to give some good suggestions if so...
Really? I thought that after the initial 1k, everything was A-Ok... Good to know... I am very interested in your suggestions...

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Yes the engine oil is in the swing arm and the trany/primary oil is held in the primary cover. From the factory they have gear oil in the primary/Trany and motor oil in the motor/swingarm
What he said...
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Really? I thought that after the initial 1k, everything was A-Ok... Good to know... I am very interested in your suggestions...



What he said...
Well like I said... Big Dog suggest after 3K as well as S&S. Now you basically have a HD sporty drivetrain. That being said... there are alot of primary/tranny oil combos. I'm not sure about running the Shockproof though. That's what I run in my Baker Tranny on the dog. But its a seperate oil. I have ran HD dino (normal) oils in my dog up until the switch to synth. BUt HD also makes a good synthetic oil.

Here's a shot of the primary/tranny oil called Formula X. I'm pouring it into the primary. But I used the same stuff in my tranny on that service.


And here's me pouring in the motor oil





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I really think they need to scrap the POS trany before they start to worry about the power plant. While the bike may be a bit down on top end HP it is still a stump puller down low but the trany on these is defiantly not up to snuff under any measurement of a modern sports bike. I find it hard to believe they kept a 5 speed grinder box that is about the worst trany I have ever had in any bike I have ever owned, and I have owned a lot of bike over the years, when they redesigned the bike back in 2003.
yeah.that shocked me too....thought the shifting would be like butter on a buell....its a very definite shift thats for sure..
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