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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-26-2007, 10:48 AM Thread Starter
 
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Which is better, clutching a 2nd gear stand up or powering up a 2nd gear stand up?

I started messing around with the 2nd gear stand up wheelie recently. I have no problems doing a 2nd gear clutch wheelie but I'm not sure which is better for the standup. I haven't tried clutching a stand up in 2nd but have tried powering it up. I've only gotten it high once while powering it up, but the only problem is is that I have to like pull up on the handlebars while giving it throttle. Will clutching it have the same effect as in 1st gear where the bike comes up fast as hell or will it be smoother like a power up?
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-12-2007, 12:47 PM
 
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I started messing around with the 2nd gear stand up wheelie recently. I have no problems doing a 2nd gear clutch wheelie but I'm not sure which is better for the standup. I haven't tried clutching a stand up in 2nd but have tried powering it up. I've only gotten it high once while powering it up, but the only problem is is that I have to like pull up on the handlebars while giving it throttle. Will clutching it have the same effect as in 1st gear where the bike comes up fast as hell or will it be smoother like a power up?
Here's some answers to your questions. A power up will always be smoother then clutching it, always. If you're trying to get the bike up quickly then clutching it is the way to go in 2nd. It all depends on how comfortable and how quickly you want the bike to stand up. You obviously have more control powering it up, but it takes more effort/time/distance, but if you can clutch 2nd and feel 100% comfortable then I would stick to that method. At least that's what I do.
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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-12-2007, 02:29 PM
 
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I perfer the clucth also ..i tend to be a bit smoother bringing it up if i do..
If i power it up in second i have to be little higher rpm's and it tends to come up little fast for me ..plus for me bringing it up erly in second with clucth gives me more time to get with it

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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-12-2007, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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I'll try clutching it and see how I like it. I gotta wait til my new clutch cable comes in though; it snapped on the way to work Friday morning. Wonder if it has anything to do with clutching sitdowns in 2nd?
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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-13-2007, 04:15 PM
 
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Depends on your bike, I dont clutch stand ups at all....I can power it up in 3rd and i'm on a 600, I dont like clutching up at all. Try throwin some gear at it like one down in the front maybe. I can do a power up sitdown in 2nd. So 2nd gear stand ups are easy. 3rd gear takes some serious lean back and bounce my I myself* wouldnt clutch stand ups. *Not knocking anyone elses methods*
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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-14-2007, 10:28 AM Thread Starter
 
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yeah my bike is all stock except for exhaust. I know I can't power it up in 3rd. I know in second I can but I'm doing something wrong whether it's timing or something else. I probably won't change out my sprockets for a lil while so I'll just mess around with them and see what happens.
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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-22-2007, 09:40 AM
 
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clutch ups all the way, much more consistent and predictable once you get the feel for them. practice makes perfect. if you want to learn 2nd gear highway wheelies clutch up (if you have stock or close to it gearing) around 40-50 mph dont dump the clutch when you release it more like slipping it quickly

Keep practicing you'll get it feel free to pm if you need any help or pointers
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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-22-2007, 01:14 PM
 
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forgot to mention thats left foot on pass. peg right foot covering brake, feels kinda weird the first few times but once you get used to it its way better in my opinion. Lot less arm pump and much more control over the bike, allowing you to steer the wheelie easier etc.
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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-23-2007, 01:31 AM
 
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I started messing around with the 2nd gear stand up wheelie recently. I have no problems doing a 2nd gear clutch wheelie but I'm not sure which is better for the standup. I haven't tried clutching a stand up in 2nd but have tried powering it up. I've only gotten it high once while powering it up, but the only problem is is that I have to like pull up on the handlebars while giving it throttle. Will clutching it have the same effect as in 1st gear where the bike comes up fast as hell or will it be smoother like a power up?
well in my short wheelie time i got pretty good but they were always sitting. never could get a tand up past like a foot off ground lol. its weird to kuz i was a big dirt bike rider years ago. but anyways power up is smoother and if practiced im sure u could master it but i loved the clutch. master the first part first just plow it up quick and dont ride them out yet just master the RPM and speed u have to have in second to get it way the hell up in the air. then once u got that ride them out. then u run outa second go to third but be careful. on my sv i kinda had to clutch it a lil just to keep it from sroppin down but i was heavy and sitting.

i love wheelies though i would be going about 22 or so and pull the clutch with just my middle finger (in second) and rev it (forgot now what the RPM was) but i reved it goodand just let the middle finger slip fast. (just use ur middle though kuz u want a grip on the bar)and boooooom at the sky u looked lol
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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-23-2007, 01:32 AM
 
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forgot to mention thats left foot on pass. peg right foot covering brake, feels kinda weird the first few times but once you get used to it its way better in my opinion. Lot less arm pump and much more control over the bike, allowing you to steer the wheelie easier etc.
i could not do that (never whent back and fell and only came close once) but i could NOT have my right foot over the brake it just wasent right for me. i dont know why it bugged me so bad
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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-23-2007, 10:11 AM
 
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I never used to use the brake for the first year or 2 i was learning, doing the 100mph + freeway wheelies. But once i started getting into slow stuff i found out the brake was my best friend and saved my ass a cpl times.

Took me getting a little crf50 and bustin my tailbone on the asphalt a few times before i really got brake control down.
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