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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 03-21-2007, 07:24 PM Thread Starter
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Riding a wheelie?

I have been riding for about 2 1/2 years and i have struggled riding a wheelie. I have a 00 zx6r -1 front,- D&D Slip on, k&N filter, and i use M1 tires. I can power the front up but once it comes up and i switch gears it comes down. How do some guys ride and pull up 80 mph wheelies? I try to clutch 2nd but no dice. Am i not doing it right? I get up to 6-8K and slip the clutch and nothing?
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post #2 of 45 (permalink) Old 03-21-2007, 11:13 PM
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Watch the second half of this video, its starts out for beginners but it covers being able to ride on your back tire for about 2 miles. Hope it helps. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...le+video&hl=en
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I learned fast highways wheelies back in 00 by clutching up in 2nd at around 45 mph, wasnt quite hitting balance point then so i was chasing the wheelie and setting down at a little over 100. I had a 00 zx6r a few years back and rode plenty of long highway wheelies on it very well capable.

Practice clutching the bike up in 2nd at around 45 mph give or take and cover the rear brake in case you go too far back you can hit it to come down if needed. start slow and try and clutch it a little higher each time, you'll get it before you know it then it will feel like 2nd nature and be able to snap it right to balance point w/ the flick of the wrist
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post #4 of 45 (permalink) Old 03-22-2007, 04:04 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks i appreciate it. I will try this out over the next couple of weeks and i will keep ya posted on my progress.
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post #5 of 45 (permalink) Old 03-22-2007, 06:11 PM
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I learned fast highways wheelies back in 00 by clutching up in 2nd at around 45 mph, wasnt quite hitting balance point then so i was chasing the wheelie and setting down at a little over 100. I had a 00 zx6r a few years back and rode plenty of long highway wheelies on it very well capable.

Practice clutching the bike up in 2nd at around 45 mph give or take and cover the rear brake in case you go too far back you can hit it to come down if needed. start slow and try and clutch it a little higher each time, you'll get it before you know it then it will feel like 2nd nature and be able to snap it right to balance point w/ the flick of the wrist
same exact technique worked for me and i was decent at them
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I played some today and was able to clutch 2nd gear about 1 1/2 foot through 2nd. I only tried it about 4 times but the cops are bad today but not too bad for only trying it a couple times. Thanks i will keep everyone posted!!!
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very good video, lots to learn when i get a bike. nice job and get a video once you get the hang of them.
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thats what it takes keep practicing and one day it will just click and seem liek 2nd nature to you
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Definatly when i get good at them youll see a video!

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post #10 of 45 (permalink) Old 03-23-2007, 08:06 PM
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heh, i've been practicing mine, i slip the clutch in first, comes right up sitting down.. i stand up and give it gas.. comes right up. but im to affraid to hit balance point
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not sure why.. but i will keep trying :s

07 gsxr 600 is what im riding btw.
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post #11 of 45 (permalink) Old 03-24-2007, 01:51 PM
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dont crash that bike its pretty lol,

sounds like you got the concept down just keep at it. Hitting BP the first time is a head game it seems. practice covering the brake and using it to bring you down when you get uncomfortable w/ the height of the wheelie.

You will know when you hit Bp feel like someones holding the front wheel up for you.
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Hey what everyone has said here is true. When I started 2nd gear wheelies I couldn't get one up if my life depended on it. I just tried different things like scooting back in the seat to make the front end come up easier, giving the throttle more gas than usual while holding the clutch in, and pulling the clutch in around 7-8k. You can ride them in 2nd for a long time once you get the hang of it. If you're wondering about the balance point check out the thread that I posted in the stunting section. I had some questions about them myself and am now riding my wheelies at bp or very close to it. Practice makes perfect though. If I can get em good on an F4i, the you should have no problem on a 636. Good Luck!
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I just sold an 01 zx6r and i dropped a tooth in the front as well and around 5500rpms i could power wheelie it up. I could clutch it up in third as well. Just play around and when you feel the power kick it you just bounce the front wheel up.
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I just sold an 01 zx6r and i dropped a tooth in the front as well and around 5500rpms i could power wheelie it up. I could clutch it up in third as well. Just play around and when you feel the power kick it you just bounce the front wheel up.
Are you talking about power wheelie in 1st gear? And you clutched it in 3rd!! Thats crazy I am still having some difficulties in 2nd. It seems like sometimes is easier than others. I am still trying though!

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I just sold an 01 zx6r and i dropped a tooth in the front as well and around 5500rpms i could power wheelie it up. I could clutch it up in third as well. Just play around and when you feel the power kick it you just bounce the front wheel up.
You clutch wheelies in 3rd? Are you sitting down or standing up? And you clutch them at 5500rpm in 3rd?
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post #16 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-18-2007, 01:17 PM
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my f4i would come up in 3rd clutching it hard when stock geared, i did it every now and then, but i prefer 2nd for the highways you have a little more engine brake.

i have a 60t rear sprocket and stock front now and it will come up in 5th clutching hard if i want to lol mazinly just use first int he lots and 2nd on the highways still though
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my f4i would come up in 3rd clutching it hard when stock geared, i did it every now and then, but i prefer 2nd for the highways you have a little more engine brake.

i have a 60t rear sprocket and stock front now and it will come up in 5th clutching hard if i want to lol mazinly just use first int he lots and 2nd on the highways still though
What year is your f4i? I have an '05 and can get it up fine clutching in 2nd. I've only messed around with it a little bit in 3rd, trying it all throughout the rpm range and might have popped it a few inches. I've tried scooting back in the seat to make the front end come up easier but no luck. Also, my sprockets are stock. Were yours stock on your f4i when you were clutching in 3rd or did you have to change them out first?
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Ok i haven't rode yet this year because its to dam cold and wet in jersey right now but the weekend looks good. I ride an '05 R6. I still have not been ableto slip the clutch. I get it up in first with a power wheelie. When I try to clutch in second it either does nothing or I feel like I am gonna be thrown off and I let go of the throttle and nothing except a heart attack - obviously! Also I don't feel like I am holding the left hand strong enough. A little hlep on the slip action would be greatly appreciated. pull it in, gas it, let it out (quick/slow)? I have read around and everyone says slip the clutch but no one says how...
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Basically get rolling around 65% rpms and then pin the throttle and apply pressure to the clutch lever enought to get it to almost instantly rev to revlimited then let it out as fast as you can. Dont go to hard on the throttle after you snap it out or youll be twelevin' it big time.

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As far as how you work everything I personally get to the RPM i want while riding (5-7k, depending on altitude), pull in the clutch, rev it up, and while it's still revving up let out the clutch and the bike comes up flawlessly. All this happens in a matter of like 1-2 seconds. Throttle control is a MUST! If you give it to much gas you'll definitely go high, but if you don't give it enough you'll be chasing it. I didn't start messing with wheelies in 2nd until I could ride one in first without hitting the rev limiter. It's easy after you do it a few times and aren't scared to go high.
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