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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-16-2007, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
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Need some wheelie advice..when slowing down

I am going to start working on slowing down the speed to my wheelies. I have gone the slowest of about 45mph as of rite now. I really want to get them down as low as poss.

What are some good tips when doing this and what is the slowest speed about that I should aim for?

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clutch and throttle control... have you altered your sprockets at all? that'll get your front end up quicker (slower)
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If your balance is good enought get it up around 45ish and past the BP and drag the rear to keep you slightly slowing and balancing.


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Dinner plate rear sprocket. Then you can pull that $#!T up right off idle.



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Dinner plate rear sprocket. Then you can pull that $#!T up right off idle.
I'm gonna be lookin these up. Yes, I want something that is gonna be poppin me rite up eventually (when I get good at it) then hold at a slower speed after the initial pop up.

No, I have not altered sprokets at all. I have a friend though that can do this. Is there any certain way that I should tell him I want it done?

(Do you or anyone have a link to some rear sprokets like that?)

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I dont...but I dont stunt either. Just get something huge...like 65 tooth. But beware...if this is a street bike...you loose all your speed...and you'll need a new chain to accomodate the huge sprocket.



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just get a V twin.

with the torque of my SV, I bring it up at about 25 mph, just blip the throttle in first, no clutching necessary!

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Well I have the zx-14 that I mainly use for street use (and a minor bit of stunting) but the one that I want to fix up is the r6 (yamaha) that is my stuntbike (practice). That one the only time that it gets riden in the street is when we are just going around to find spots to ride or that we are going to 'the spot'. What is the pick-up ratio change for when you add in a 65 from having a 'factory' installed one?

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Please don't attempt to stunt the 14

I don't stunt, but I do know that if you change the sprockets, you'll get it. Ever had a ten speed bike? Remember how easy it was to wheelie when you had the small sprocket in front and big one on the back. Same principal.
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Please don't attempt to stunt the 14

I don't stunt, but I do know that if you change the sprockets, you'll get it. Ever had a ten speed bike? Remember how easy it was to wheelie when you had the small sprocket in front and big one on the back. Same principal.
Dont worry about the 14,,,all that I do on that one is just a little wheelie or 2...that is all...the rest gets saved for the r6 (that is all beat up)

Yup, I owned all those 10 speeds and 18 or whatever it is speed bike when I was young. and yeah, I remember that. Good advice..thanks!

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Clutch up from almost a stop, you'll be able to hit bp at a lot slower than 45mph.
You have to work that rear brake, not just cover it. You don't have to get a huge sprocket right away, you still have a lot of work to do before it would be useful to you.
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definately dont need a big sprocket to learn slow stuff, i learned on stock down to 5 mph wheelies on f4i never bogged down or stalled

Bring it up at a comfortable speed preferably less than 45 more around 25 or less, get to bp then slowly start bring it back a little further while using the rear brake. Take your time and practice you'll get it, wear your lid.
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definately dont need a big sprocket to learn slow stuff, i learned on stock down to 5 mph wheelies on f4i never bogged down or stalled

Bring it up at a comfortable speed preferably less than 45 more around 25 or less, get to bp then slowly start bring it back a little further while using the rear brake. Take your time and practice you'll get it, wear your lid.
I'm starting to get it down (going to go practice some more today since I just got done with daily stuff to do). I am going to try this theory a little bit more since it seems to be working. We just took our bikes to go buy a new washer and dryer set from Sears. (since they deliver) and while I was waiting for my boy to come out I was practicing slow wheelies in the Sears parking lot..and getting quite the audience too!


(While at Sears) I got my speed while up on one tire down to around 37 mph.

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theres NO reason to change gearing of any kind to get a nwer 600 in the air ( the only one that might have trouble is i believe the new r6 with its new system designed to keep the bike on the ground). Also if you cant get the bike up till 45 mph you must be using all throttle no clutch. WRONG! Wheelies should be able to be performed from just a few rolling mph 7+ without any problems. Let off the clutch so the bike is rolling, grab the clutch, run the rpms midway up the tack, let go it ( and I really me just let go, BE CAREFUL tho and dont start off at midway on the tach work your way up, this will jump the bike up right from the start, also it wheel bump your speed up so lightly use the rear brake and slow yourself back down to a safe speed ,10-20 mph and balance yourself and the bike and you will be fine, or while the front is already up, gradually increase speed and ride that wheelie for as long as you'd like.
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theres NO reason to change gearing of any kind to get a nwer 600 in the air ( the only one that might have trouble is i believe the new r6 with its new system designed to keep the bike on the ground). Also if you cant get the bike up till 45 mph you must be using all throttle no clutch. WRONG! Wheelies should be able to be performed from just a few rolling mph 7+ without any problems. Let off the clutch so the bike is rolling, grab the clutch, run the rpms midway up the tack, let go it ( and I really me just let go, BE CAREFUL tho and dont start off at midway on the tach work your way up, this will jump the bike up right from the start, also it wheel bump your speed up so lightly use the rear brake and slow yourself back down to a safe speed ,10-20 mph and balance yourself and the bike and you will be fine, or while the front is already up, gradually increase speed and ride that wheelie for as long as you'd like.
I was wondering about a lot that you just cleared up for me. Just so you know, my r6 is a 2001. I found out last nite (since I was practicing) that I only have to go (for myself) about 15 mph to get it up in the air. It seems like I have good balance up until I reach about 20mph (which I got to last nite) then I really start wobbling all over. I know this is going to take TONS of work.

I row also..and I know when I slow down my strokes per minute it is really hard to balance the boat, but once I practice I can get down to about a 9...(which in rowing is VERY slow) Guess it is the same in wheelies!

Thanx for the advice!

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thank you, finally someone cleared up the sprocket ****. i hate people that think it's easy if you just put a big sprocket on it. if that's the case then why is it whenever my friends say that, and i let them ride my stunter they can't do a wheelie for ****? oh ya, cause IT'S THE RIDER!

sprockets only help when you have skill and are doing super slow stuff so you don't have to feather the clutch. i can rock almost everything on my stock 636 that i do on my f4i. i just have to feather the clutch with slower stuff and if i did circles on my 636 (too pretty right now to do that ****) i would be destroying that clutch.

once you get it balanced, just give it some more gas to bring it past the balance point and then ease into the brake. slowing it down is all about keeping it past balance and using just a slight ammount of brake to scrub off speed and not fall backwards. keep practicing and you'll find that spot and before you know it, it's second nature.
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Mine comes up at 15 mph LOL but i dont clutch it either i get rolling aat about 15 to 20mph then twist the wrist i dont like clutching it up and powering it up is really smooth FOR ME... and i have good throttle control.

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