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600... wheelies... and you.

Not really trying to do a wheelie yet, just pushing my bike a bit harder today. I've been grabbing a fist full of throttle on long empty straights lately just to get a feeling of what its like. The only time i ever feel my front end get light is in first, right before i redline (at about 15k, on my 98 cbr). I really haven't given it all i have in second yet, but i have a feeling it wont get up in 2nd. How many of you can power up a 600?
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The CBR could easily do it, the rider chooses not to. I lifted the front end pretty easy on the SV as well.

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I used to bounce up my 02 R6 easily..I was -1+2
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with a twin, i imagine its not very hard.

How many horses you have pulling that white carriage, and do you know the torque?
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I used to bounce up my 02 R6 easily..I was -1+2
yezz yezz yezz, i can imagine w/ new sprockets its quite easy.
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with a twin, i imagine its not very hard.

How many horses you have pulling that white carriage, and do you know the torque?
I am not real sure, I am going to get it dynoed and tuned when I get the Akra pipe. I know there was an Akra dyno map I posted somewhere...


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With a lot of work and the right circumstances I can get my 500r to bust a power wheelie... It works about 5 out of every 75 times I try... Usually uphill, always first gear, generally with very little gas, a hard bounce, and while the planets are aligned I can get it a couple feet up... then that's all she's got... I would guess that if I did standups I could get it up higher... Probably end up at the balance point if I stood on the rear pegs...
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try to wheelie but can't get it up for the life of me. i even try to clutch it in first still nothing

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06 r6 will not power wheelie at all in 2nd gear on flat
and first gear just choppin and snappin around 11krpm the front gets light and hovers about 4 inches off the ground.

Basically no powerwheeling on my bike, have to use clutch.


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how do you work the clutch

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if ur on an 06 gixxer six then roll it out to about 50 in second and go full throttle and then snag the clutch so it snacks out about 4k rpm more than what you were rolling at. That may not lift the front either, and youll have to go harder on the clutch. The new bikes are designed to not lift the front, and the r6 is damn near impossible to lift stock and without the clutch on level ground.


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My ZX636 will easily power wheelie in first gear. Accelearte your bike up to about 30 to 40mph kinda quick, dump the gas for about 3 seconds, then give it all its got. Be prepared cause it might come up fast. In second gear I have to be doing about 80 then dump the gas and bounce it a little before I gas it. Its not easy in second.
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Your bike has a shorter wheelbase and a lower first gear and a little more top heavy so it all adds up to make it so the front comes up easier.
Every bike is different.
But all 1k will powere up in first.


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i should have never asked this question, im getting all sorts of horrible ideas in my head.
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wheelies on my 600rr are a piece of cake. You got several options:
A) Speed up to about 7k, then drop the throttle and reapply instantly whilst leaning back. The front end should shoot up. I don't prefer this method cause it feels painful.
B) at around 5k pull in clutch, rev to around 7 or so, and drop the clutch whilst leaning back. Its all about feel so test out at lower RPM first.
C) Standup first, keep steady pace at about 6k or so, standup, bounce front end while applying throttle. I don't like 1st gear standups cause the are really short and the wheel comes up too fast.
D) 2nd/3rd gear standups. Perfect gears. Second comes up quick with the bounce method at around 7k, once you are good shift to 3rd for extended wheelies. 3rd can only be brought up at around 10k but is super smooth.

This is just what I do personally, and cannot be held responsible for the results if you try it yourself. Not sure about your bike, could be alot different from mine.

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Never wheelied more than a few inches....which was coming out of corners...RPM's at 10-12,000 and getting sloppy with the clutch. But that was when I was full finger jones on the clutch. Now I roll 2 finger mcgillicutty and thus sloppy clutch work is a thing of the past.



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Never wheelied more than a few inches....which was coming out of corners...RPM's at 10-12,000 and getting sloppy with the clutch. But that was when I was full finger jones on the clutch. Now I roll 2 finger mcgillicutty and thus sloppy clutch work is a thing of the past.
I am digging the the "bubba-isms" on your discriptions.

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I am digging the the "bubba-isms" on your discriptions.
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got it up a few inches i went to 9k then let off a little then opened up full throttle and it came up a little. now that i know the tip of the ice burge i just have to work on gettin up higher and staying up.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmO5A1A1cWo

this is one of my fairly high speed wheelies. This one I did last year, and have gotten much better since.

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