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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 07-16-2007, 12:43 AM Thread Starter
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What set up do you use for stoppies?

Ive been trying them for 3 short days now on my 636, Im good at them on bicycles and dirt bikes, and can keep them at BP for a couple seconds at least...so I know to get on the brake quickly but smoothly then let off once Im near BP and drag the brake....but thats a HUGE difference compared to trying them on a 425 lb bike even though I have steel braided brake lines and galfer HH pads. The bike feels really numb and pulls a lot more Gs than Im used to.

Ive been winding out first gear to about 12k and using 2 fingers on the brake, and it seems I can only manage a stoppie once I get it down to 20 mph. Ive tried getting my ass off the seat but the feeling is too alien for me. Though today I tried to get the back up on the highway and to my surprise I got it off the ground, though I used all 4 fingers. I was under the impression that using your whole hand wasnt good, like using your whole hand to clutch up a whoolie...but maybe not.


Im wondering what settings you guys use for the lot, and for the street--What psi, minimum settings on the damper if you use one, and what lever settings 1-5 and how many fingers do you guys use? And how much tire pressure could I get away with using assuming the road is decent? I like mixing tricks in with my canyon carving, and kneedragging isnt the safest at 15 psi Ive tried 20 psi and I still get the wheel to lock up when the tire is warm. But I guess if the road is crappy it doesnt matter what pressure the tire is...


Also...I keep picturing that guy with the busted 636 forks every time I hear a clank on the bike with the clutch pulled in. lol. I bought this 636 already crashed from a bad stoppie so the forks are a little tweated. Someone re-assure me the forks arent going to snap, Im not going to eat chit, and total my bike if I keep doing this ahaha



I have a GPR damper and a good front tire btw

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I'm curious about this also, never done a stoppie on a cycle. Not too many wheelies either. This is because I'm tall and fat.
Not at all eager to start stunting but I would like to know the method for stoppies.

Is this the pic you're referring to?

The look on his face is pretty priceless. "OH SHIIIII......"


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Thats the one.

Stoppies have their pros and cons. They are easier to learn, but harder to master. You cant learn to ride BP on a stoppie unless you get to it. And in a stoppie, if you hit BP and youre learning, more likely than not youre going to crash. If you go a hair past BP in a wheelie, you can barely move the throttle and come back down. or the brake. Or both. If you go a hair past BP on a bike in a stoppie youre going down and theres not a thing you can do.

I honestly have no desire to go pro with any stunt, especially stoppies. But they are fun and I believe in completely understanding and using the potential of the bike.

After only 3 days of learning hard braking, I think Ive learned more about how fast I can really stop than the 2 years Ive previously been riding.

Heres the basics:

Roll on the throttle
Squeeze the tank hard with your legs
lock your arms tight and keep your body stiff - its very very important that you do this if you dont have a damper. Some people dont even try without a damper its such bad joo joo
Pull the clutch in at the same time you get off the gas so you dont loose speed, and get on the brake right after. If you get off the gas first you will loose potential speed.
Pull on the brake harder and harder until you feel the back come up and either keep it where you are at or let off the brake.
I would use 2 fingers at first regardless of anything just encase. Its much harder to **** up with just 2 fingers.

Do NOT stoppie to a complete stop. If you are rolling the stoppie from whatever speed down to 5 mph and then get on the brake the bike will jolt its weight forward and you have a better chance of going down - To keep the bike up to a complete stop in a stoppie, you have to give it more brake at the very end and that is why its so common to see a crash.

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did that pic is sick, that would be a terrible feeling the moment they snapped.

I run stock f4i front end w/ stiffer racetech internals. works good. thers a good thread on stuntlife about fork setup for stoppies in the help and how to section
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Did I use too many words?

cliffs:
1. I LIKE STOPPIES LOL
2. DO YOU LIKE STOPPIES? ROFLROFL
3. HOW DO U DO THEM? LMAO
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