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post #1 of 49 (permalink) Old 04-12-2006, 11:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Keeping it up

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I vowed to never do another wheelie since I was put in the hospital due to my last one about two years ago. So I taught my self not to do it anymore, well the problem is I have the bug again!!

Any, I remember how to get the bike off the ground easy, but I am having trouble keeping it up?! (I am doing power wheelie in 1st)

Any suggestions on keeping it up?

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Its all about throttle control and don't forget to keep the rear break covered. Do a search on TWF and you will find many threads on wheelies.

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LOL! I really set my self up for that one! Only problem I am seeing is when I am bring it up on first I am 14-16,000 rmp bike redlines at 17k? I tried shifting just brings it back down. I am not a fan of dropping the clutch due to the fact thats how it put me in the hospital
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Practice Practice Practice
You have to find that sweet spot to stay in one gear. If you powering through a shift. The shifts need to come earlier.

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post #5 of 49 (permalink) Old 04-26-2006, 11:54 AM Thread Starter
 
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Would you suggest to get a power commander for a little more power?

Thanks for your reply.
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Did my first power wheelie the other day. I about **** my pants. I have gotten the wheel off the ground several times when going hard off a red light, but this was the first time I put a major gap between my front tire and the ground. Definitely is a weird feeling, I don't think I will try it again for awhile.

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Im loving it. Im just starting as well, only prob I have is Im working on bringing it down easy but the few times I dont really smooth I rack my nuts SOOOO bad, wtf im keeping my knees pinched to the tank and still crack them suckers. Any ideas...
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LOL! I really set my self up for that one! Only problem I am seeing is when I am bring it up on first I am 14-16,000 rmp bike redlines at 17k? I tried shifting just brings it back down. I am not a fan of dropping the clutch due to the fact thats how it put me in the hospital

what bike do u have that you are redlining at 17k??? i thought only the 06 R6 was suppose to do that...but obviously does not as they were busted!!! lol

u should start your first gear wheelie at around 7-8k rpms....and if you get high enough and balance a little....you should be able to keep the wheel up between 9-11k rpms...just with little throttle play as it starts to fall...rock the throttle back and forth.
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post #9 of 49 (permalink) Old 04-27-2006, 04:03 PM
 
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wheelies

yeah just get your rpms up to about 8thousand compress your springs and jam the throttle down till your up as far as you want, i have a 02 gsxr 600 and that works fine for me,and im 5ft10in 210lbs. finally able to ride on the rear in first gear standing at 40mph, just cruzzin. just takes pratice and throttle control. just take it easy till your comfortable with how the bike reacts. and be carefull.
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yeah just get your rpms up to about 8thousand compress your springs and jam the throttle down till your up as far as you want, i have a 02 gsxr 600 and that works fine for me,and im 5ft10in 210lbs. finally able to ride on the rear in first gear standing at 40mph, just cruzzin. just takes pratice and throttle control. just take it easy till your comfortable with how the bike reacts. and be carefull.
That's the key! Learn the bike and how it react to your input. Same bike with different riders gets different results.

ie.. I can wheelie a friends F3 as easy and far as him. We use totally different techniques to get results also.

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i agree throttle control. i started clutch poping in first, you gotta get to that comfort zone. when the front tire is in the air and it seems like it takes nothing to keep it there(balance point) then i went to 2nd gear stand ups. i was at this stage for a while. now i start in 2nd in a stand up..lightly let off the throttle and shift into third on a wheelie then its away we go. in third gear at about 75-80 im no where near the red line. so you can just float the throttle back and forth to keep it up and keep it balanced.
THE BIG THREE
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2.BALANCE
3.COMFORT ZONE.

A LOT OF THE FIRST, MORE OF THE SECOND, AND NEVER GO OUTSIDE THE THIRD.

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i agree throttle control. i started clutch poping in first, you gotta get to that comfort zone. when the front tire is in the air and it seems like it takes nothing to keep it there(balance point) then i went to 2nd gear stand ups. i was at this stage for a while. now i start in 2nd in a stand up..lightly let off the throttle and shift into third on a wheelie then its away we go. in third gear at about 75-80 im no where near the red line. so you can just float the throttle back and forth to keep it up and keep it balanced.
THE BIG THREE
1.PRACTICE
2.BALANCE
3.COMFORT ZONE.


A LOT OF THE FIRST, MORE OF THE SECOND, AND NEVER GO OUTSIDE THE THIRD.

the big 3!!!!!!!
also 1st gear wheelies suck! They are too short, too quick, and hard landings.
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the big 3!!!!!!!
also 1st gear wheelies suck! They are too short, too quick, and hard landings.

You can go just as far in 1st as any other gear if it is in the balance point just takes practice
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i agree throttle control. i started clutch poping in first, you gotta get to that comfort zone. when the front tire is in the air and it seems like it takes nothing to keep it there(balance point) then i went to 2nd gear stand ups. i was at this stage for a while. now i start in 2nd in a stand up..lightly let off the throttle and shift into third on a wheelie then its away we go. in third gear at about 75-80 im no where near the red line. so you can just float the throttle back and forth to keep it up and keep it balanced.
THE BIG THREE
1.PRACTICE
2.BALANCE
3.COMFORT ZONE.

A LOT OF THE FIRST, MORE OF THE SECOND, AND NEVER GO OUTSIDE THE THIRD.
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But I do second gear sit downs. I feel more comfortable that way then standups.
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I guess you still pop the clutch (on a 600) for 2nd gear standups? I haven't been able to get it up in 2nd no matter how many miracle blue pills I take.
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I guess you still pop the clutch (on a 600) for 2nd gear standups? I haven't been able to get it up in 2nd no matter how many miracle blue pills I take.
Once you learn your bike well enough, you can get it up in second with out the clutch. However you would be hard pressed to find the balance point before running out of power. The clutch just gets you up there quicker.

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well I've been goofing around a bit, and I still can't get the hang of standups. Now I start in 1st, shifting to 2nd. once in a while i standup after I shift to second but I just can't start off that way. I just feels way to wierd (I'm 6'3") because I'm bending down so far.
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Im loving it. Im just starting as well, only prob I have is Im working on bringing it down easy but the few times I dont really smooth I rack my nuts SOOOO bad, wtf im keeping my knees pinched to the tank and still crack them suckers. Any ideas...

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post #19 of 49 (permalink) Old 08-20-2006, 08:53 PM
 
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use your body... do em leaned back... then leaning forwar will steady it out or bring it down soft... i found it more useful then trying to lift and lower the front on all throttle
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I started with clutching 2nd gear sitdowns first to get a good feeling for the bikes balance, 2nd gear stand ups without clutch around 9k because i find using the clutch on a stand up perrty scary. Once you can do 2nd gear stand ups for what seems like forever, Try 3rd gear around 10k wich is 82 on my bike, stand up lean back and stab it with a bounce from your body weight. 3rd gear is smooth and comes up slow wich is nice. 2nd gear is where i do most of my stand ups tho. 9k bounce, stab it, balance. I balance mine around 13k. It is high in the rpms but if you get in trouble and go back to far it provides good engine breaking to bring the front forward to a nice place. Last right before you land if your at highspeed make sure the wheels straight and stab it for a softer landing and this will also help with tankslap wich is what will get you really fast.
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