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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old 06-10-2006, 08:52 AM Thread Starter
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Will I get tired of a 250?

I'm looking into getting my first motorcycle. I've checked into a Honda 250 Rebel (which is what I learned on) and a Ninja 250 because i really want a sport bike. I've been told I will become bored with a 250 and the dealer suggested i start with a Ninja 650 at 5500 OTD. Will I get tired of a 250? And is the 650 too big for a beginner?

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If you can ride at all the Ninja 650r should be ok. If yourinto sportbikes then yes, you will get tired of a 250. I even think a 500 such as the EX500 or the Suzuki GS500 would be great for you. Good luck and be sure to stick around and post up pictures.

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You may or may not...

But this is my thing. Unless you are a speed junky girl... it has been my expierence that girls tend to be ok on the smaller bikes. They don't have the devil on their shoulder that most guys do.

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SV650. 'Nuff said.

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hey thanks ya'll!! Yea I just wish i could come up w/ the $5500 for the black Ninja 650. It's a sexy bike But if i do get the 650 or even a 500 i'm def putting sliders on it. Putting a dent in a brand new rebel at class wasnt much fun

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Just reading the subject, I will answer you. Yes you will get tired of it. Maybe after a year or two.
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I say just go with the new ninja! you'll be happier... besides the red frame is sexy!




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You already have a SV650S icon. You're halfway there!

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I think you will be fine on the 650.

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I guess I'm going to disagree with the masses here and say it might not be best to start with that ZX650. Granted, it, as well as the SV650/650S are much tamer than the "R" bikes, and are overall well suited to newer riders (and both have comfortable riding positions).

BUT, I don't think you should be considering a NEW bike for your first. If you're really concerned you'll get "bored" with a starter bike, do this: pick up a used 250 or 500, ride the heck out of it for a year and then turn around and sell it to another new rider. You can pick up used 500's for a couple grand, and more often than not, you can turn around and sell them for nearly what you paid for them (since you're buying it used, someone else has already taken the big depreciation hit).

Something to remember... you WILL most likely drop your first bike. Yes, frame sliders can minimize damage to fairings, etc... but not always, and not 100%. If you bought a brand new bike, you'd be utterly crushed the first time you dropped it. Not to mention, having a new bike adds pressure to a new rider just learning....

Just some things to keep in mind... I absolutely adore BOTH the ZX650 and the SV650S (both of those, as well as the ZZR, are on my list of potential bikes to upgrade to later this year), so it's nothing against the bikes.

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having started with the ninja 250, i loved it!! it was a GREAT starter bike but for me a starter only. I am big into speed and I got bored with it really quick, it will get up and go but 108 was the max I could get up to...(so i was ready to move on within 3 months...) If you can ride already, i mean ride, not the MSF course only, i would def think about getting the 650, if you arent a really exp. rider yet start with the 250!! Also, as far as i know, they dont have frame sliders for the 250's...
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If you bought a brand new bike, you'd be utterly crushed the first time you dropped it.
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I wish there were sliders for the ninja 250, but from what I hear you dont really need em.

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i had 2 ninja 250s. each i kept for at least a year. when i bought the 636 2 years ago i traded a 250 in. i was a bit unsure even then that i was ready for a 600. i never got bored with my 250s. they were great to start on. i even came from an extensive dirt bike background and all that crap. as a petite girl, the 250 should do everything you should hope for. i am glad i started out small. my first street bike was a YSR50. top speed of about 45mph. now that's small. but i am a better rider because of it today. don't let a bunch of boys influence you. buy what you are comfortable with. and if it is the 650, so be it. but you are the one that has to ride it, not some dealer. there is no $$ in selling the 250s, so don't be surprised that they want to sell you the big bikes. but here's how i see it: no bike = bored, any bike at all = not bored. with the choice. and as my idol, pink, would say: don't be a "stupid girl", think for yourself and do your own thing.

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I'm looking into getting my first motorcycle. I've checked into a Honda 250 Rebel (which is what I learned on) and a Ninja 250 because i really want a sport bike. I've been told I will become bored with a 250 and the dealer suggested i start with a Ninja 650 at 5500 OTD. Will I get tired of a 250? And is the 650 too big for a beginner?
I am having the same dilema. I was able to find a used 250 with 800 miles on it for $2500 and the woman is willing to take payments. Nothing at all wrong with the bike, but the guys I will be riding with ride nothing smaller than 600s. I'm not really worried about keeping up with them or anything right away, but I'm sure I will be bored being the last one all the time. My gut says go with the 250 cause I think I would be more comfortable on it to start, but my head says to get an older used 600 so I don't need to "upgrade" in a year.

I would say go with what you feel comfortable on. If the 250 feels right then go with that, you can always sell it after you know the ropes better. I've watched used ones on eBay go for more than new ones. Whatever way you choose though, and keep us posted.
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well, you shouldn't really be in last place all the time unless the guys are riding at speeds above 108mph. rae said the 250 will do at least that, i never tried on either of mine (nor with my 636 now). the only bad thing about the 250 is the slow pick-up. it isn't the fastest bike off the mark, but once it gets going it will hang with the big bikes. it is a very respectable 1st bike. but that's just my .

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Ok here is my typical Noob statements

Take the MSF Course

Get the gear (leather jacket, Full helment, gloves minimum) a fully perforated leather jacket is good to 85deg as long as your moving, after that temp everything is hot no matter what. This is gonna cost you $400-$1000 for anyting worthwhile

Get these two books. They will take you the next step after the MSF. Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist II and Lee Parks Total Control (?) With these two books they will teach you insights into riding that you would have never thought of and you will improve 10 fold over a year. Riding is more a mental sport than anything else.

As for bikes, if your not a nitwit, get what you want but don't overdo it (aka 1litre bikes) The 650r will just get you there a little faster. If you don't like your bike your not gonna ride it. Total HP is not everything, I know guys that can outride me (in the twisties) on their 500ex and I am on my Aprilia and I am not a slow rider.

PS your gonna drop your bike, even if its just in the parking lot. OEM Plastic is very expensive.

Ride ride Ride, that is the only way to get better. Country riding is much more satifying than highway, city riding. Ride 5000 miles before you start to really push yourself. You need to train your muscles to ride the bike natrually and not think about shifting gears, braking, looking through turns, etc. On the street you always ride below "YOUR" 70-80% level not mine
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I am having the same dilema. I was able to find a used 250 with 800 miles on it for $2500 and the woman is willing to take payments. Nothing at all wrong with the bike, but the guys I will be riding with ride nothing smaller than 600s. I'm not really worried about keeping up with them or anything right away, but I'm sure I will be bored being the last one all the time. My gut says go with the 250 cause I think I would be more comfortable on it to start, but my head says to get an older used 600 so I don't need to "upgrade" in a year.

I would say go with what you feel comfortable on. If the 250 feels right then go with that, you can always sell it after you know the ropes better. I've watched used ones on eBay go for more than new ones. Whatever way you choose though, and keep us posted.
thats a killer deal on a 250 as long as it isnt too old, what year is it?? And I would totally reccomend getting a 250 for a first bike, nothing bigger, but depending on your needs, you may grow tired of it really quick like i did or enjoy it longer like itgirl did...they are very easy to learn on, and honestly unless it is something silly, you probably wont ever drop it...and mine was really easy to resell and I didnt take too much of a hit considering I only had it 3 or so months...
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shes already taken MSF passed, dropped the bike and all that fun stuff not a complete noob... more like a parking lot princess...(if she reads this she will kill me)



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That sounds like a pretty good deal on new 650. I think you'd really like that or the SV a lot, and have fun on/get use out of longer than doing the 250/resell/buy route.

I sort of disagree with the blanket "you'll be crushed the first time you drop it and make it not shiny" statement about buying a new bike. If you go into it really KNOWING that you're likely to bang it up some, it really isn't so bad when you do. That all depends on the individual and how they respond to something like that. However, a newer bike is flat out going to cost more to replace parts/plastic on than older bikes. It's certainly something to consider when making the new/used decision.


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im pushing the 250, buy/use/sell and then work her way up, i think she would have more fun on the 250, but i know i am goin to have to work something out to act as sliders or make the first nakid 250



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