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post #21 of 58 (permalink) Old 12-07-2007, 05:39 PM
 
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a* is good stuff - remember don't go cheap for the track, leather can burn through, seen suits that have and gave rash to the rider.
Astars suits are overpriced.

Their stuff used to be the best back in the day, but now they're just running on the fumes of their past success, putting out an overpriced product that doesn't live up to the reputation they built with quality products in the past.
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Astars suits are overpriced.

Their stuff used to be the best back in the day, but now they're just running on the fumes of their past success, putting out an overpriced product that doesn't live up to the reputation they built with quality products in the past.
I don't believe that. My A* jacket is the best quality I've seen. Better than JR or Shift or Icon. Never seen Dainese in person so I can't say about that.

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Astars suits are overpriced.

Their stuff used to be the best back in the day, but now they're just running on the fumes of their past success, putting out an overpriced product that doesn't live up to the reputation they built with quality products in the past.
I don't really believe that either but out of curiosity, what would you recommend?
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I don't really believe that either but out of curiosity, what would you recommend?
Probably whatever he wears

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i am starting to agree with ceo a* seems to be putting out a lil lower quality product then in years past, i have no personal exp. with this, just from the reviews and when i was looking for my leathers, for the money the mid priced agv's and teknics were a better bang for the buck, seems like you were more paying for the a* name and getting a lil less product for the same price, but there top of the line stuff is great and worthy of the hype



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i am starting to agree with ceo a* seems to be putting out a lil lower quality product then in years past, i have no personal exp. with this, just from the reviews and when i was looking for my leathers, for the money the mid priced agv's and teknics were a better bang for the buck, seems like you were more paying for the a* name and getting a lil less product for the same price, but there top of the line stuff is great and worthy of the hype
My GP Plus gloves for instance...
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i am starting to agree with ceo a* seems to be putting out a lil lower quality product then in years past, i have no personal exp. with this, just from the reviews and when i was looking for my leathers, for the money the mid priced agv's and teknics were a better bang for the buck, seems like you were more paying for the a* name and getting a lil less product for the same price, but there top of the line stuff is great and worthy of the hype
Exactly. Read the reviews. Alpinestars doesn't hold up like it used to.



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I have a bunch of a* stuff and everything I have has been used a lot. Never had any problems with any of it. The only time I have had something tear up is my heel guards, but I wouldn't expect trying to stop a 40 mph big wheel on asphalt is something they tested them for...

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I have a bunch of a* stuff and everything I have has been used a lot. Never had any problems with any of it. The only time I have had something tear up is my heel guards, but I wouldn't expect trying to stop a 40 mph big wheel on asphalt is something they tested them for...
Have you crashed in it yet?



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Have you crashed in it yet?
not at high speed, they have numerous 20-30 mph fiddy crashes under their belt. No markings whatsoever on any of my stuff besides the boots.

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not at high speed, they have numerous 20-30 mph fiddy crashes under their belt. No markings whatsoever on any of my stuff besides the boots.
Fair enough.



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I use my suit (1-piece octane, moderate priced one) regularly and couldn't be happier, quality is same or better as any teknic/AGV top end I have seen. I love my boots mostly for the fit, I just can't stand the zip/velcro fit ones, I like the draw string snug of mine. Mine have some abuse on them, but that is because I was an idiot and used them in my first big wheel race.... The GP plus gloves are low end gloves, they are alright. I have GP Tech gloves (top of the line) and they are very nice. My back protector is also A*, it's the top of the line one and the fit on it is highly adjustable and great quality.

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I use my suit (1-piece octane, moderate priced one) regularly and couldn't be happier, quality is same or better as any teknic/AGV top end I have seen. I love my boots mostly for the fit, I just can't stand the zip/velcro fit ones, I like the draw string snug of mine. Mine have some abuse on them, but that is because I was an idiot and used them in my first big wheel race.... The GP plus gloves are low end gloves, they are alright. I have GP Tech gloves (top of the line) and they are very nice. My back protector is also A*, it's the top of the line one and the fit on it is highly adjustable and great quality.
I wouldn't buy their gloves...but that's just me. I've read too too many posts on the net of them falling apart not holding up well in crashes.



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I wouldn't buy their gloves...but that's just me. I've read too too many posts on the net of them falling apart not holding up well in crashes.
I would say that is a possibility with the plus gloves I have, the tech ones are top notch. It's what the A* riders wear in moto gp. I have heard nothing but good things about them in crashes. They are also amazingly comfortable after they break in.

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I wouldn't buy their gloves...but that's just me. I've read too too many posts on the net of them falling apart not holding up well in crashes.
It's not specific to A*- I've heard of every makers' textile or mesh gloves falling apart.

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It's not specific to A*- I've heard of every makers' textile or mesh gloves falling apart.
I speak only of leather. Textile is fo suckas.



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There was a guy who posted a couple threads about leathers and stitching and such that were VERY informative a couple weeks ago. He was a new member, and his first 5 or 6 posts were big articles about various product reviews. Someone should dig them up, I'm too lazy.
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I don't believe that. My A* jacket is the best quality I've seen. Better than JR or Shift or Icon. Never seen Dainese in person so I can't say about that.
It would be the best you've seen if you're comparing it to JR, shift, and icon. Their stuff isn't great either.
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I don't really believe that either but out of curiosity, what would you recommend?
I'm going to get a custom suit eventually... will be the same money as an a* or dainese off the rack, and will hold up better, from what I've read/seen, not to mention fit perfectly. Vanson, Zee, Syed, etc. That's where you get your money's worth.
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No. My stuff won't hold up any better than a* probably. However, it cost a hell of a lot less.
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Exactly. Read the reviews. Alpinestars doesn't hold up like it used to.
Yup. It's fine if it doesn't hold up as well as it used to. But the price continuing to rise is what pisses me off. If you're going to pay that much for something, it should be the best. They are just selling their name now.

Even before I went down at the track, one of the seams on my gp pro gloves started coming apart a little bit, just from putting the gloves on and off. Fluck that. I have been thinking I will write them a letter and bitch, maybe get some free gp techs. That's the only decent glove they make.
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So it's really the price to quality ratio that has people steered away from Alpinestars now? There aren't many options out there for females (that I can fins) so that is good to know. I will have to review the prices between the Teknic and Alpinestars.

While you guys are saying the Alpine quailty has come down, is it the same quality as Teknic now or are they still better in comfort/crashes?
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So it's really the price to quality ratio that has people steered away from Alpinestars now? There aren't many options out there for females (that I can fins) so that is good to know. I will have to review the prices between the Teknic and Alpinestars.

While you guys are saying the Alpine quailty has come down, is it the same quality as Teknic now or are they still better in comfort/crashes?
Exactly. But even more than that, is that they used to be the pinnacle of quality, and now are just selling their name. They're using past success to carry their current business, not putting out as good of a product, but selling at high-qual prices, it seems.

I would say teknic is on par with a* quality, but has much better pricing. For example... my teknic chicane pants were only 180 bucks. Full leather, full and partial circumference waist zippers, knee pucks, etc. Real nice. A bunch of other people I know have them too...
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Exactly. But even more than that, is that they used to be the pinnacle of quality, and now are just selling their name. They're using past success to carry their current business, not putting out as good of a product, but selling at high-qual prices, it seems.

I would say teknic is on par with a* quality, but has much better pricing. For example... my teknic chicane pants were only 180 bucks. Full leather, full and partial circumference waist zippers, knee pucks, etc. Real nice. A bunch of other people I know have them too...
I've heard bad things about Teknic though... not sure where. And their website is lame- all the pics look like drawings! I want to see the real gear.

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