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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-11-2006, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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Hey Ladies...I was hoping you could help me out with some questions I have come up with while searching for gear. How safe are the mesh jackets? Are they mainly just useful when riding in city traffic where you might not get much airflow? Are they better than a textile jacket when being a passenger? I'm trying to find a jacket that will work for city riding as well as longer rides on the interestate. Would I be better off just getting a textile jacket with plenty of vents to start with or would you only where leather on longer rides?

Now on to helmets...what do you suggest as far as bang for the buck? I would prefer something that is a little lighter weight, that I can see easily out of and that isn't gonna be useless if needed. I'm willing to bet that is what everyone is looking for, but I just want to see what you have found and recommend. My only riding experience comes while in Wisconsin that doesn't have a law on needing helmets, so here your "gear" is usually what kind of sunglasses you own. Thanks for all your .
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Hey there, and welcome to our little corner of the forum.

Let's see... where to start:

Mesh - Protective
Textile - More protective
Leather - MOST protective

Being a passenger (versus rider) isn't the important factor.... if you were to go down, you'd likely sustain just as bad of injuries as the pilot.

What you opt for is up to you.... down here in Florida, mesh is a NECESSITY. There's just no way it's humanly possible to wear leather year-round. Where you are? Depends.... if it doesn't get really hot/humid, you might be able to get away with a well-ventilated textile during warmer months, and certainly leather in cooler months.

Key things are this: One, make sure, whatever it's made of, that it fits YOU right. Look for women-specific gear, as it'll be shaped and cut to fit a woman's body, rather than a man's. You don't want it too loose; think about if you were to go down, and slide on the pavement -- you don't want the jacket to come riding up because it's not tight enough. (I'm not trying to scare you, I just want you to realize the importance of fit).

Also, look for CE armour. There are a few types of armour, but if it indicates it's "CE approved" it's going to give you a higher level of impact protection. CE used to be hard to find in women's gear (but was the norm in men's gear) but in the last year or so, that has changed. I believe most -- if not all -- of the Joe Rocket ladies offerings have CE armour in them, as does the new line from Power Trip. Icon, on the other hand, while very popular, and "cute," is not CE approved. In fact, if you read the tag on the inside of most any Icon jacket, there's a disclaimer that it is NOT "personal protective gear." (which is frightening, when you think that some of their men's leather jackets are upwards of $600.... )

As for helmets, many of your higher end models (Arai, Shoei, Suomy) are going to be very durable, and lightweight. Other mid-range companies are getting better, though... I've heard AWESOME things about the Scorpion Line. Check the Gear area of this site -- I've posted a huge list of "feminine" and "girly" helmets... you might find something there you like.

And let's not forget gloves. You may not think you need them, since you're only a passenger, but again, in the event of an accident, you need just as much protection as the pilot. Get some good quality mesh-and-leather or leather gloves. This will also give you a better "grip" on the tank when you're riding, and will reduce the vibrations you'll feel in your hands (which often make your hands go numb for a bit).

Hope this helps! And good luck!
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on Everything!! Being in Florida I currently have a textile jacket for winter and my new meshy from Power trip is on order... they have the best looking new stuff IMO, but whether if you are just riding passenger or on your own, you should always wear full gear! Look up Road Rash in this forum or any other and I would bet you will find some really horrific pix.

My textile is well vented and is okay for winter temps all the way up to about 68-70 degrees, then when I stop movin i start cookin...color makes a difference too tho, black (which is what I currently wear) obviously hot in summer...
the textile I am borrowing from a friend is nice, you are def tons cooler, but when the temp drops at night it gets cold...but maybe not so much when you are a passenger...and all this depends on your weather conditions...

gloves are a must, have you ever had your hand out the window driving down the road and got hit with a bug?? Imagine getting hit with a rock kicked up by the car in front of you!! You should be able to find a decent pair of gloves fairly inexpensive ($50-) i think mine were $35...dont remember

helmets I think are a personal preference, go try some on, just make sure it is DOT & Snell approved, you'll find that on the back of the helmet...(oh yeah, the bug thing applies here too if you ever think about riding without a helmet, i've gotten hit with a few on my helmet that hit so hard I swear it echoed!! )

I always wear jeans to ride, with leather chaps on if its chilly, for long trips I probably will too, but havent done it yet so I will let you know when I try it...

and ALWAYS boots over the ankle!!! I wear boots that go up to just below my knee, they are a life saver if you ever touch those burnin exhaust pipes...I leaned on mine last night and didnt realize it till my leather heated up, whew , i felt stupid, but if I hadnt been wearing them my leg would have melted to my jeans and the pipe...gag...gross thought but true...

always try everything on if you can, walk around in it, sit on a bike in it, get a good feel for it, and good luck!!!
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Wow, that helps a lot. We will be living in Kentucky and I know it gets plenty warm for me about everywhere. I'm kinda a wimp when it gets over 80... Do you think since we won't be starting to ride til about May or June I could get by with a mesh jacket with a liner for starters? I've seen some great deals on newenough.com on Joe Rocket stuff. How hard do you try to match your bike? Or do you try at all? Most of the stuff I've seen is either pastels or black. I like the black but want some visibility too. There were a couple of silver ones I really liked as well, biased on that cause its my favorite color. Think it would be ok to go with measurements for size on a website when they offer to exchange it? Lots of questions I know, but I don't want to spend money on stuff I'm not gonna use or not spend money on the stuff I need. Thanks for all the help!
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I'd go to your local Cycle Gear or motorcycle shop if I were you. It's too hard to order online, until you're familiar with how a particular brand fits you (in my experience, Joe Rocket and Power Trip run true to size; Icon leathers run SMALL, but Icon Textiles run HUGE; Alpinestars runs very small, and if IDEAL if you're a very petite build; Teknic runs a little large, but not very. BUT their sizing is 2, 4, 6, 8, etc... like dresses/clothes, so it's a more precise fit).

Once you've tried some stuff on, then go surfing for deals... New Enough is great, as is Cyclegear.com, Tricktape.com, etc.... And Ebay is also a good place to look.

Personally, none of my gear matches my bike, actually, but all of my gear matches my other gear. Buy what you like, and don't fret about if it matches the bike -- it's serving a purpose: keeping you safe.
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I'm just the opposite, I HATE being cold, but I love the heat, most of my girlfriends down here have gotten by just fine with a mesh when it is cooler down here, so IMO you should be fine...measure yourself and then look at the sizing charts for the correct size, and check with Neebelung, she is familiar with Joe Rocket...as for matching, yes mine has to match but it is a personal preference I am currently painting my bike to match all my gear!
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whatever gear you get, remember this: don't get white...

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whatever gear you get, remember this: don't get white...

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why?/??
Cause it dirties so fast/easily.

Why are we only asking this in the ladies section????

Nee said...

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Mesh - Protective
Textile - More protective
Leather - MOST protective
It should be
Mesh - Protective
Textile - More protective
COW Leather - BETTER protective
ROO Leather - BEST protection

Now I didn't want to read all that crap above...

Mesh works quite well... can't remember who it was... but somebody on here crashed really bad...I think it had something to do with a tow truck on the side of the road....

Anyway, he was wearing a meshy and it did really well. Speedwerks (more over Laura) could tell you that they have seen many in the shop that did well.

Understand this... a meshy is a one-time use jacket. You go down once and its done! Buy another one!

A textile... nearly the same thing... sometimes they will hold up enough to re-use but not as likely as it is with leather.




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It should be
Mesh - Protective
Textile - More protective
COW Leather - BETTER protective
ROO Leather - BEST protection
Ah yes, I stand corrected. Forgot about Roo leahter.
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Avoid just buying blindly online. You absolutely must go to a local shop and try stuff on for fit. Like was said above...every brand has different fit. You want to be sure it fits the first time.

As for helmets...ideally you want to put one on and wear it around the store for a good 15-20 minutes to see how it's gonna affect you. Make sure it fits...you don't want it to come off in a crash. As for standards...just make sure it's DOT. Snell, BSI, etc...are above and beyond. If it's DOT approved it passed required tests. You'll be paying more coin for the other standards. Scorpion is solid for middle of the road $$$.

Check out sportrider.com, read the helmet articles.



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Ah yes, I stand corrected. Forgot about Roo leahter.
Yeah... Roo leather rocks! Half the weight..twice as strong!




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Thats some great info, very useful... Still working on explaining to the hubby that gear is for safety not looks, but after reading what everything needs to say on it for proper safety, I am confident enough that I just won't let him get anything else. I'm really glad I asked cause I had no idea what to even look for before. None of the bikers I know even wear gear besides when it is warm out, so I really didn't have a starting point at all. Thanks for all the help!
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Gear is of the utmost importance if you are on 2 wheels. IMO...no one should ever throw a leg over a bike w/o proper gear. Tell you hub that he gets no if he doesn't wear gear.



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Gear is of the utmost importance if you are on 2 wheels. IMO...no one should ever throw a leg over a bike w/o proper gear. Tell you hub that he gets no if he doesn't wear gear.


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I bought the Joe Rocket Cleo mesh for my girlfriend. She seems to like the fit a lot and she says it is vented real well. She only rides on hot/warm days, so she wanted a meshy. She is currently using a friends helmet that does fit her correctly(made sure of that), she really wants the KBC heart helmet, but I am unsure if I want to get something cheap for her head because she thinks it's pretty.

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Vol...get her a Shark helmet like I got the wife.... its really nice and not too much money.




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Vol...get her a Shark helmet like I got the wife.... its really nice and not too much money.
Hey folks,

A great female friend of mine (I did my training and test with her many years back in fact) tried a whole bunch of helmets and after many trials she pronouced the Shoei Raid perfect for the girls.

Light, strong, looks cool and (apparently - I wouldn't know because I take an XXL *anything* in head size) fits women really well.

Worth checking out, in any case.

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... I am unsure if I want to get something cheap for her head because she thinks it's pretty.
Does that include you mate?

hehe, sorry - I'm a big VolEngineer fan generally, just a cheeky Brit as well, and we do have a somewhat irreverent sense of humour. (Heck, we even spell humour with an extra 'u'!) Hope you can get along with it

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ARGH! A thought just occured to me.

VolEngineer - if the girl in your avatar is your girlfriend then we're gonna have to do pistols at dawn or something...

Eeeek

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