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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 07-31-2006, 01:01 PM Thread Starter
 
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reverse gp style shifting

a few of my buddies ride lke this with the levers working the other way, saying thats what the racers do. but why do they set them up like that? is it solely b/c it makes it easyer to just tap down to upshift? thats my best guess..
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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 07-31-2006, 01:03 PM
 
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And to add to his question, how hard is it (mechanically) to switch a bike over?
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The theory is easier = faster shifting for racing. Yes, its easy to switch, but I personally hate it.
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Most bikes just require flipping the shift linkage upside down on the spindle. First ask yourself why though. Are you dragging your toes while trying to upshift? If not, I wouldn't. Its kind of the poser thing to do, I see a lot of bike night types doing it.

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Actually it showed up in another thread. It's also a theft deterrant. One guy almost had his bike stolen, but the theif tried to ride away and didn't know the bike had GP patterned shifting. went from 2nd to 1st while accelerating and laid it down. Ran away and the bike was a little scratched but only a block from home.
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Yeah, the same will happen to you when you hop on and forget you switched!

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Yeah, the same will happen to you when you hop on and forget you switched!
True!
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I tried the race style shift for a while when I used to race. Never caught the hang of it, since I had 20 years of the other style practice.

The argument the other racers would give me, is it makes it easier to upshift. IMO, I had plenty of time between up shifts to get my foot where I needed it. On the other hand, hard braking with a lot of down-shifts, was a much more busy and critical time for me. Maybe that's why I used to pass so many folks when I was on the brakes!

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this is a pretty neat concept, but i bet it would definately take some getting used to.
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I switched both my bikes and like it much better than standard....I just find it easier pressing down while upshifting. That's how I learned 40 years ago on a Honda 50 SuperSport...1 up, 3 down.
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Most bikes just require flipping the shift linkage upside down on the spindle. First ask yourself why though. Are you dragging your toes while trying to upshift? If not, I wouldn't. Its kind of the poser thing to do, I see a lot of bike night types doing it.





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I had mine flipped for a while. It did take some concious thought to keep from shifing wrong. After a day or two it was more natrual, but i put a "GP" sticker under my gauges as a reminder. What i did like about the reverse pattern is the downshifting felt better. The upshifts felt a bit vague though i never missed a shift like that. A friend used the bike last week so i changed it back for him and havent gone back to "GP" shift yet.
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I've been interested in trying this, but since my shift rod goes through the frame, it's not an easy mod. I can't complain about normal shift. i haven't had any problem shifting while leaning. You just gotta let your knee hold you and you can move your foot around and hook it up...literaly. It'd be good to have to eliminate people from using your bike. An easy and great excuse not to.

i've seen racers with different bikes that have stickers or tape w/ writing that says "Normal shift" or "GP shift".

Not all racers use this by the way.
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Not all racers use this by the way.
Mladin uses the street pattern, seems to work.
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Mladin uses the street pattern, seems to work.
Yeah, I'll say...

Doesn't Hayden use it? Not sure...
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On the other hand, hard braking with a lot of down-shifts, was a much more busy and critical time
Indeed!

I switched it because of turn 8 at the Streets of Willow. The centrifugal force at the end of that turn is quite a bit, so I thought I'd try it GP style. It took a few canyon runs to get used to it, but it feels pretty good.

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Pucky, for the sv it's as simple as loosening a bolt flipping the linkage, tightening and wham race style shifting. Only problem is when you shift the wrong way and peg the hell out of the rev limiter.

When I brought my SV in for it's first service the tech guys did that to me to screw with me. However, if you get the lower fairings, you have to actually cut them to get it to work. Mine will remain uncut.

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They did it to screw w/ you? WTF is that? Do they know you?
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yeah, it was a joke. They know me.

This isn't the same place the ****ed up the swingarm. This place wouldn't do that because it voids the warranty and it's a suzuki dealership so they can't do anything like that. At least that's what they say.

They didn't let me leave the parking lot, they just wanted to see me confused trying to put it in neutral.

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yeah, it was a joke. They know me.

This isn't the same place the ****ed up the swingarm. This place wouldn't do that because it voids the warranty and it's a suzuki dealership so they can't do anything like that. At least that's what they say.

They didn't let me leave the parking lot, they just wanted to see me confused trying to put it in neutral.
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