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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-10-2006, 08:36 PM Thread Starter
 
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How far do you lean?

I'm a pretty new rider (since 2003) but I have about 20,000 miles of riding overall (10,000 + on my 600RR) under my belt. that's not too bad in 3 years... anyway most of those miles have been spent practicing (not stunting!!) taking turns, braking, body shifting, throttle control etc etc. I've been to the local track a couple of times too. One thing I noticed about myself is that I tend to feel a lot more comfortable dipping into left handers than right. Is that normal? Why do I feel that way? Also, sometimes when I'm in the middle of a corner, I can feel my Michelins sliding (both front and back). Is that because I'm doing something wrong, or my tires suck, or they're not properly warmed up? Maybe all of the above?
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-10-2006, 10:09 PM
 
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the reason it's easier to lean left is because your throttle hand is not as confined. it is more relaxed when hanging off the left. as for tire sliding. i've only slid them on cold tires on a crappy cold moist morning on the first corner. i've slid them both many times on the track. that's when they have reach max temp and will start reducing traction on the next cool down cycle.

riding hard on low tire pressure sometimes feels like you are sliding both tires.
low tire pressure will also cook the tires.

Since you ride street most of the time, keep your knees tucked in when hanging off. get rear sets so you don't mess up your balance by moving your feet around from tip toe to gear changing. make a conscious effort to countersteer on high speed turns. this is where newbies panick and go off-roading.

an hour of track time = 1 year street riding experience.

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the reason it's easier to lean left is because your throttle hand is not as confined. it is more relaxed when hanging off the left. as for tire sliding. i've only slid them on cold tires on a crappy cold moist morning on the first corner. i've slid them both many times on the track. that's when they have reach max temp and will start reducing traction on the next cool down cycle.

riding hard on low tire pressure sometimes feels like you are sliding both tires.
low tire pressure will also cook the tires.

Since you ride street most of the time, keep your knees tucked in when hanging off. get rear sets so you don't mess up your balance by moving your feet around from tip toe to gear changing. make a conscious effort to countersteer on high speed turns. this is where newbies panick and go off-roading.

an hour of track time = 1 year street riding experience.

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Good post, ive onlly been to the drags and always wondered why i can leaner out far left but a lil shady bout the right
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the reason it's easier to lean left is because your throttle hand is not as confined. it is more relaxed when hanging off the left. as for tire sliding. i've only slid them on cold tires on a crappy cold moist morning on the first corner. i've slid them both many times on the track. that's when they have reach max temp and will start reducing traction on the next cool down cycle.

riding hard on low tire pressure sometimes feels like you are sliding both tires.
low tire pressure will also cook the tires.

Since you ride street most of the time, keep your knees tucked in when hanging off. get rear sets so you don't mess up your balance by moving your feet around from tip toe to gear changing. make a conscious effort to countersteer on high speed turns. this is where newbies panick and go off-roading.

an hour of track time = 1 year street riding experience.

-a|ex
100%

Most of the time, you will get better at corners you can see through! i.e. In Australia, we ride/drive on the left hand side of the road. Approaching most intersections, visibility is better to the right, because you've got the whole other side of the road to look across. On the left, you've generally got buildings blocking your veiw, so you'll naturally be more cautious going into a left hander. Obviously the opposite is true for the States.

I did the Superbike school just recently. Something that hit home was one of the instructors opening statements. "Do you have ten years experience, or one years experience followed by 9 years practice?" I've learnt more in 2 1/2 years racing than I have in 25+ years on the road.


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I'm pretty equal now as far as which side I lean. I go edge to edge on both sides. My front tire almost has no chicken strips. Less than 1/4 inch on both sides.
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I'm pretty equal now as far as which side I lean. I go edge to edge on both sides. My front tire almost has no chicken strips. Less than 1/4 inch on both sides.
Impressive.



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Impressive.
I still have to lean more to be consistent on dragging a knee. I'm already hanging off a bunch. My whole ass pretty much.
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Damn whole ass and no strips. You're an animal.



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Damn whole ass and no strips. You're an animal.
geez DLit!
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Damn whole ass and no strips. You're an animal.
At first I wasn't really hanging my upper body off and I fixed that. I know pretty much have my armpit near my gas cap and my head up by my mirror kinda. I'm getting more use to sticking my knee out and I fixed my foot positioning to do that. I guess I just have to lean more. I mean I can feel the edge of the seat with my ass. If I'm leaning left I can feel the outer left edge with my right ass. It's definately a work out, riding on that road for a few hours. Gotta keep practicing though.
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As said by many... keep your shoulders square to the bars!
I do for the most part. My whole upper is just leaned over. Gotta lean the bike more I'm thinking.
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I wanna ride with DLIT!!! I saw the pics of his tires in another thread and I got a feeling wether hes got "PERFECT" form or not this dood can ride!!!! Id love to ride behind him and watch....that is if I could stay close enough to see.
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I wanna ride with DLIT!!! I saw the pics of his tires in another thread and I got a feeling wether hes got "PERFECT" form or not this dood can ride!!!! Id love to ride behind him and watch....that is if I could stay close enough to see.
Thanks, bro. I feel that way about the guy I ride with. I can stay close to him, but he's got real good form. He just plants the knee like it was nothing. I'm jealous.
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I wanna ride with DLIT!!! I saw the pics of his tires in another thread and I got a feeling wether hes got "PERFECT" form or not this dood can ride!!!! Id love to ride behind him and watch....that is if I could stay close enough to see.
You saw my thread about the video we took this past Sundy right?
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You'd leave me for dead by the sounds of things. FU.



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You'd leave me for dead by the sounds of things. FU.
I don't think I'm that fast. Quick, but not that fast.
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