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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-02-2006, 09:19 PM Thread Starter
 
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What is the difrence in a f4i and a 600 rr?

Im looking at a 2003 cbr 600rr and a 2002 f4i. All i realy know about the difrence in these is that the F4i dosnt have undertail exaust and its also alot cheaper. So could somone help me out here.

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-02-2006, 09:51 PM
 
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Honda once had a philosophy of one bike to do 2 jobs when it came to its 4stroke sport bikes. The F series 600's were built with alot of street riding in mind also, so they typically came with a banana seat and taller clipons and lower rear sets. The F4i was hondas first step away from that philosiphy though not completely. In 2003, honda finally debuted a dedicated repli-racer: the CBR600RR. So the difference is the F4i is more of the all-arounder of honda sportbikes (and they still make them), and the 600RR is the race bike.
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from what I've heard they are very similar engine wise. The RR has a much more aggressive feel (not to mention dashing good looks), but if you want a more comfortable long distance bike I would go with the F4I. I myself enjoy my RR very much and would definately buy it again.
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Well the reason im asking is because even tho I can do what I want my parents dont think its a great idea to start out with a cbr 600 rr because all my dads friends that he rides dirtbikes with that ride streetbikes also where telling him how agressive the 600rr is and how its more of a racing machine so they both dont want me to get that. So do you think the F4i would be somewhat of a beter choice then the 600rr?
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Depends what you want it to do. The rr is a race rep. The f4i has plenty of pep but is a bit more comfortable.



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Depends what you want it to do. The rr is a race rep. The f4i has plenty of pep but is a bit more comfortable.
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Honda once had a philosophy of one bike to do 2 jobs when it came to its 4stroke sport bikes. The F series 600's were built with alot of street riding in mind also, so they typically came with a banana seat and taller clipons and lower rear sets. The F4i was hondas first step away from that philosiphy though not completely. In 2003, honda finally debuted a dedicated repli-racer: the CBR600RR. So the difference is the F4i is more of the all-arounder of honda sportbikes (and they still make them), and the 600RR is the race bike.
But the F4I can still rip on the track under a good rider.
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But the F4I can still rip on the track under a good rider.
But slightly less cornering clearance too.



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But slightly less cornering clearance too.
True, but not too bad. you can buy rear sets for it.
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True, but not too bad. you can buy rear sets for it.




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Just to add, there was a side by side comparison done and the both bikes made almost identical horse power. The only difference was the RPM at which that power was made. I am not sure how old or what model years it covered but I know it's at least two years old. I was considering both bikes for purchase when I started riding. Google it, I am sure you'll come across the same article.
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But slightly less cornering clearance too.
yep!
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to me, the biggest difference, is the RR, is a track oriented machine, built to go fast almost all the time, the F4i, is more geared to daily riding, meaning a more relaxed rider position, power is spread out through a broader rpm range, and its got the high mount pipe on it instead of undertail.

where the RR, is pretty much the opposite. if its your first bike, I'd get the F4i, its a bit milder than the RR, still a potent machine, but not as aggressive. think of it as nascar race car being the RR, and the F4i being a corvette, both are potent, fast machines, one just does it differently from the other.
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to me, the biggest difference, is the RR, is a track oriented machine, built to go fast almost all the time, the F4i, is more geared to daily riding, meaning a more relaxed rider position, power is spread out through a broader rpm range, and its got the high mount pipe on it instead of undertail.

where the RR, is pretty much the opposite. if its your first bike, I'd get the F4i, its a bit milder than the RR, still a potent machine, but not as aggressive. think of it as nascar race car being the RR, and the F4i being a corvette, both are potent, fast machines, one just does it differently from the other.
Good words.
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OK...I can't be quiet any longer...As someone who has garaged and ridden literally hundreds of miles on the RR (birdman's 03 and Snakemann's 04) and who owns an f4i...I will say this...

When I purchased my '04 F4i I looked seriously at both...there was a 500 dollar difference brand new. Somewhere, way back in my post history...if it is still available, I put up the Spec. sheets for both bikes for '04...

The engines are the same...the RR has 3mm bigger throttle bodies and a different map...(PCIII will equalize this)and the "factory undertailheader"...The RR puts out around 10 HP more than the F4i...It also came with stock sprockets at 16 in the front and 43 in the rear and the F4i is 16 and 46...the RR has a different swing arm and the rear shock is slightly beefier...The front brakes are also a few mm's bigger. The front shocks also have slightly stiffer springs. The RR has more lean angle so can be more agressive in the twisties.

For cosmetics, remember, the '01 to 03 F41 had the split seat...the '99-00 had the banana and they brought it back in '04. The F4i seat height is 2" lower and the clip-ons are above the triples on the F4i and below on the RR...That is why you feel the "more aggressive stance."

As has been stated earlier, the RR is basically a "track ready" bike. The ergos on the F4i were more suited to what I wanted the bike to be...

If you want to be a track rat...Buy the RR...If you are going to put 10K+ miles on the bike every year like I have...buy the F4i...

We can ask birdman later what he thinks...since his SV...and the '03 RR have no passenger pegs, he is out on a first date ride with a new lady on MY F4I... ...I have the SV up on stands in my garage right now...

But remember this...in 2002...the F4i was Honda's flagship in the 600 class in super sport and super stock...

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The f4i definetly sounds more like a beter bike for me right now. The bike i think is a good price I got the guy down to 3200 for it its a 2002 f4i with 10,000 miles. I figure if i ride it for a year or so and want somthing beter i can either get a 600 rr or a 1000rr and ill be alot more suited for that then.

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Ill post some pics if I end up buying it.
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unless you are riding on the track competitively...FOR MONEY...you will not be able to "out grow" the F4i...
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isnt this bike popular with the stuntin crowd?-f4i and i dont see many RR stunten'



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isnt this bike popular with the stuntin crowd?-f4i and i dont see many RR stunten'
very popular! The exhaust on the RR is not good for stuntin'
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yeah, the F4i is VERY popular with stunters here. undertail exhaust aint so good for stuntin, not with a 12 o clock bar on the back.
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