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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 01-16-2007, 06:34 AM Thread Starter
 
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Downgrade: '03 954RR to '07 600RR?

Has anyone here ever "downgraded" from a "liter-bike" to a 600? The new 600RR looks like it's going to be an awesome bike for the 600 class, almost enough to tempt me to trade "down" from a bigger bike.

My first bike was an '02 F4i that I bought brand new and had for about 2 years, but I didn't really put many miles on it (1200 total). Then last spring I decided to buy another bike and picked up a used '03 954RR. This time I've actually been doing some riding, and put 2k miles on this one since I got it.

When I had the F4i, I was still learning to ride, but it seemed like a little more power wouldn't hurt the bike. When I got the 954, the extra power was exactly what I was looking for.

So, now I'm planning to "trade" my '03 954RR for something new this spring. At first I was thinking about the logical upgrade, which would be a CBR1000, but the color schemes this year just aren't doing anything for me... I guess I need to see them in person when the dealership gets some in.

The new blue color scheme for the 600RR looks awesome, and the bike runs about $2k less than any of the liter-bikes. But, I just don't think I could go back to the 600 after having a bigger one, especially knowing that an '07 liter-bike is going to have more power than the 954 I have...

A test ride on the new 600RR would answer the question for me, but I don't see that happening...
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 01-16-2007, 07:51 AM
 
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I would only go back down if the 954 deemed to be way too much power for me. Other than that, I'll go with the 1 grand.
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I would only go back down if the 954 deemed to be way too much power for me. Other than that, I'll go with the 1 grand.
That new 600RR is a helluva bike. 345lbs and a short 53.8 inch wheel base.
New ram air induction taken from the RC51. I bet that this is better through the twisties than the 954. I bet DLIT will agree.
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post #4 of 19 (permalink) Old 01-16-2007, 08:46 AM
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but at the same time...it wont have the same kinda power you are used to, if you are a power junkie I would step up not down, if you are big into the twisties and getting the most outta your ride, i would go with the 600
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600RR is an awesome bike, no doubt... I don't think it would disappoint. My only concern would be if you're a bigger guy/tall, you MIGHT feel really cramped on it. The 600 is TINY, both in terms of width, and in terms of how 'compact' you are in the riding position on it.

If the color scheme is the only thing deterring you from the 1000RR though, two simple options: either wait till '08 and see what they offer then, or get an '07, and have it painted the color of your choice. I mean, if the 1000 is what you truly WANT, then don't let color be a hinderance.
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You'll notice the power difference. It really depends on what kind of riding you do. The Honda will be a track beast. With such a short wheel base, it'll be so flickable and with what they're syaing about the HP and torque, it should be great. It's definately a bike designed for the track. No slipper clutch though, from what I've read. That's kinda gay. It won't have the power or the top speed, but it'll definately be a fun bike.

But it sounds to me like you really want the 1000. Look at the new R1...pure sickness. Fly-by-wire, variable intake, slipper clutch, newly designed heads. I think it'll be the bike to beat. Just need a good rider to extract all that power and handling smoothly. But I can also understand brand-loyalty too. I don't think I'll own anything than Yamaha's.
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If the new 600 RR will keep up with a 1k then go for it. I am impressed with the 06 Yamaha R6.... it keeps up well with my 03 Yamaha R1.

I can't see myself ever down grading tho.
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You'll notice the power difference. It really depends on what kind of riding you do. The Honda will be a track beast. With such a short wheel base, it'll be so flickable and with what they're syaing about the HP and torque, it should be great. It's definately a bike designed for the track. No slipper clutch though, from what I've read. That's kinda gay. It won't have the power or the top speed, but it'll definately be a fun bike.

But it sounds to me like you really want the 1000. Look at the new R1...pure sickness. Fly-by-wire, variable intake, slipper clutch, newly designed heads. I think it'll be the bike to beat. Just need a good rider to extract all that power and handling smoothly. But I can also understand brand-loyalty too. I don't think I'll own anything than Yamaha's.
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dude if you read the SR mag.. you'll understand ...
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Right now I am probably leaning towards the R1, the '07 looks sick and I like all three color schemes on that bike.

I've only ridden Honda so far and I'd like to stick with them, but other than the Repsol it just seems like the colors for the 1K are too bland... same old black or red/black... and last year's two-tone silver looked better than this year's plain silver. I like something a little bit different, but for some reason the Repsol just hasn't caught my eye... this from someone who used to own a '98 Indy 500 Pace Car replica Corvette (yes, the purple/yellow one).

My local dealer had a leftover '06 silver 1K that they were willing to let go for $9k, which would be tempting, but by the time I sell my 954 it will probably be gone (if it's not already). So, then I'm stuck looking at paying more ($10k?) for an '07 1K that hasn't changed much from the '06 except for the colors that I don't care for.

The '07 R1 looks like it's going to be about $11k OTD, and with the new tech and the styling/colors of that bike, it's probably worth the extra $2k to me.

So... sell my 954... buy an R1... wait for spring...
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with everyone else about your riding. I think you should get what most fits your style of riding. I personally have an 05 R6 and I will probably own another 600 for my next bike. Most likely yamaha cause i think my bike handles better than any other 600 that i have ridden, but that's just my opinion. You can't go wrong with the R1. Best looking 1000 jap bike out there. Again an opinion
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ok man...
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I ride on streets with giant SUV's and most drivers on cellphones. I also ride some of the twistiest roads in the nation, but they have sand, ice, tourists stopping in the middle of a blind corner to take pictures, deer, elk, dogs, foxes, mountain goats, big horn sheep, marmots, and animals I didn't know what they were. Plus, I don't race on a track.

So I would take the 954 for the torque and some room to move. The 06 RR makes 25 lb/ft at 4K, and the 954 makes 55. The 954 makes over 50 lb/ft from 3,500 to 12,000. The RR makes 45 at 12,000. Not good enough for my type of riding.
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Isn't this like asking the wife if its ok to have your "unit" reduced? J/K JUST KIDDING!!

The concensus is here... I just hope you don't regret it just cause of a bad paint scheme!




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Go with the R1...best looking liter bike out there right now.



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