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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-30-2007, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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new plugs in 954????????

i just put a new set of plugs in my 954, it was a real pain, i was told by the honda shop that i should have them do it because the heads were very easy to strip out, but i done it myslelf anyways cause thats me, my question is?????? i put the plugs in finger tight, then i tightened them at about a half turn, or 40% of a turn, is this tight enough or am i going to shoot a plug through the tank, lol?
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post #2 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-30-2007, 08:49 PM
 
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it's best to torque to proper spec... what year is the 954? specs may vary by year....
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post #3 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-30-2007, 09:10 PM
 
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A good rule of thumb for tightening anything where heat is involved is to use a1/4" drive ratchet and get it "wrist" tight (meaning do not pull with your arm) But like Tater said, the best option is to use a torque wrench.
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post #4 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-30-2007, 09:12 PM
 
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or the old saying goes..... turn it till it snaps the back it off a quarter turn...
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MAN... don't pay to have that done! Its Freakin easy!

Pull the gas tank, pull the air box and they're right there!

Spray the old ones with some penetrating oil. Let them sit for about 15 mins.

Pull the old ones... replace with new. But put some never sieze on the threads of the new ones. Put new in with your fingers or most of the time... in the socket with extension spinning extension by hand. Then torque to specs.

If you don't have a torque wrench just use the german method..good n tight. But don't over do it.




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i was always told, finger tight then use a tool to tighten it one quarter of a turn



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What I'm saying is... you'll need to socket and extensions to put them in... no way to do so with your actual fingers. In all these "Over head cam" motors... you usually need like 6" worth of extension to get to the spark plug... that's all... use the socket and the extension with your hand to thread it in.... no ratchet till its threaded in!




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No torque values given in my Honda manual, but the Haynes manual states "finger tight then 1/4 turn". But make sure that finger tight means that the gasket on the spark plug is touching the cylinder head, not just resistance from goop in the threads.
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well i used a 3in extension, with the socket and a swivel, i turned then as tight as i could by hand, then i turned them around a 1/4 turn, i put it all back together and it ran great, i let it warm up, turned it off and repeated the process a few times, no problems what so ever, ohh and i also used never seize, so from everyones response it seems i did it by the book.....
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Your tool kit should also have a spark plug socket. Just get em good and snug.



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post #11 of 44 (permalink) Old 01-31-2007, 11:58 AM Thread Starter
 
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there good enough, i really dont feel like takin all that crap back apart...
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[QUOTE=Gas Man;298032]MAN... don't pay to have that done! Its Freakin easy!

Pull the gas tank, pull the air box and they're right there!



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i talked to my mechanic today, he told me to take it apart again and tighten them up, that there was a risk of one coming looses and backing out, he said from the compression it would strip out the last few threads as it workled its way out? anyone ever had this happen, or have any more suggestions?
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MAN... don't pay to have that done! Its Freakin easy!

Pull the gas tank, pull the air box and they're right there!

Spray the old ones with some penetrating oil. Let them sit for about 15 mins.

Pull the old ones... replace with new. But put some never sieze on the threads of the new ones. Put new in with your fingers or most of the time... in the socket with extension spinning extension by hand. Then torque to specs.

If you don't have a torque wrench just use the german method..good n tight. But don't over do it.
see i was told the opposite. i was told by the honda shop that they would do it for 60.00 (there hourly rate) because two are easy to get at but the other two you all but have to remove the frame to get to, at least on my 929... i havent even tried to replace them yet...
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That could be... I know there are always a few that hard to get to.. at least on every bike/car/truck/mower.... I've ever worked on.

But nothing makes you feel better about your bike than working on it yourself. I'd be more than willing to help you working on the bike, I have a bike lift and all the tools. But you'll have to get it down to me... which would be a 2 hour ride.




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That could be... I know there are always a few that hard to get to.. at least on every bike/car/truck/mower.... I've ever worked on.

But nothing makes you feel better about your bike than working on it yourself. I'd be more than willing to help you working on the bike, I have a bike lift and all the tools. But you'll have to get it down to me... which would be a 2 hour ride.
really...sweet...pm me your number and ill hit ya sometime here soon, you can never have enough opinions...
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so gas, if i road up with a couple bottles of engine ice, some ss lines and brake fluid in my back pack....



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so gas, if i road up with a couple bottles of engine ice, some ss lines and brake fluid in my back pack....
Come on over.... if its too much to handle... ride, work on bike, and ride back... (judging by your last visit... I think not) I can check with the wifey about puttin ya up for the night...




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really...sweet...pm me your number and ill hit ya sometime here soon, you can never have enough opinions...
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