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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 07-18-2007, 10:46 PM Thread Starter
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what octane fuel do you use in your 600 F4i?

what fuel do you guys use in your F4i? I know its always best to use high octane so don't flame me about that. I was just wondering what you use, what kind of performance you see from using each grade, and do you see different fuel economy using different octanes?

I just bought a 600 F4i and the manual says use atleast 86 octane.
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Using anything more than what it's designed for is a waste of money. There are numerous threads on the subject. Check out this one.
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yes that's what I've heard and I have read that thread but I'm sure there are people out there that use higher octane dispite everything.

different bikes can act differently so I was wondering specifically what F4I riders have seen. also, not that we have to worry about fuel economy but is there a difference between the different octanes?

plus I'm bored t work and this is something to do.
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87 in he 250. I highly doubt using 91+ or anything premium grade is just about a waste on a stock bike unless the manual states to use it. If you bike calls for 87 then use 97, maybe 89. But I wouldn't expect to get any significant change in power or fuel economy by using a higher grade then the bike is setup for. If fact if you go to high you'll hurt the motor because it cant burn it.
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i use the 87/89 in my F4. In cars I never noticed a performance increase due the a higher octane pump gas, Better gas milage, eh a lil, my driving is to ilratic(sp?) to really judge milage
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. You didnt see an increase because unless the ECU and everything else on the bike is set up to run higher grade then there is no gains to be made by running higher grade fuel then stated in the manual for your particular bike/car.
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yes that's what I've heard and I have read that thread but I'm sure there are people out there that use higher octane dispite everything.

different bikes can act differently so I was wondering specifically what F4I riders have seen. also, not that we have to worry about fuel economy but is there a difference between the different octanes?

plus I'm bored t work and this is something to do.
All of the answers are in that thread I posted for you. If your bike is not supposed to run on anything, but 86/87... you'll actually be moving backwards in performance if you run anything else.
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All of the answers are in that thread I posted for you. If your bike is not supposed to run on anything, but 86/87... you'll actually be moving backwards in performance if you run anything else.
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I run 87. Didn't notice any pinging. The owners manual states to use 86 and above.

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The owners manual states to use 86 and above.


put whatever the manual says to put in it! 87 is perfect.
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I save money on gas My Sv acan run on about any octane so i just piss in tank On the serious side I use 87 most the time.Thats what it recommends, once in awhiile ill run 93 to keep eveerything running smooth.
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I save money on gas My Sv acan run on about any octane so i just piss in tank On the serious side I use 87 most the time.Thats what it recommends, once in awhiile ill run 93 to keep eveerything running smooth.
That statement makes no sense. The octane is not a measure of how clean/pure the gas is. Its a measure of the rate at which it allows the fuel to burn. So once again putting that higher grade in your tank (unless it is designed for it) DOES NOTHING TO HELP YOUR BIKE.
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here we go again with the gas lol

how come no1 ever asks what brand do you use? like chevron, arco, thrifty, shell, mobile, 76...
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here we go again with the gas lol

how come no1 ever asks what brand do you use? like chevron, arco, thrifty, shell, mobile, 76...
because most people don't know wut they use
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guess it doesn't really matter i get any where from 46 to 52 miles to the gal. Depending how hard im riding my bike. Its all over priced anyways.
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guess it doesn't really matter i get any where from 46 to 52 miles to the gal. Depending how hard im riding my bike. Its all over priced anyways.
but why would you say something so uneducated and i am paraphrasing you when i write this "i put 93 in to keep everything running smoothly".

it does matter when you put the wrong octane in, you are not helping out the bike at all and are hindering performance.
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here we go again with the gas lol

how come no1 ever asks what brand do you use? like chevron, arco, thrifty, shell, mobile, 76...
That is another great debate... I have explained MANY times before... I have a shiny nickel for anybody that can find a post where I explain it... it being the differences between brands. I must have posted it at least 20 times.




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That is another great debate... I have explained MANY times before... I have a shiny nickel for anybody that can find a post where I explain it... it being the differences between brands. I must have posted it at least 20 times.
I can sum it up... No difference, comes from the same place.
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you can keep your shiny nickel u chromosexual(lol couldnt resist)-but basically i think (didnt bother lookin for the link) u said the gas is all the same, only dif is the additives the companies put in there, dif company, dif additives/amount of additives.

that being said, it seems like that would make a certain brand alil better than another based on what exactly they add, so it just seems weird that no1 asks what brand, its always the octane. thats all i was saying-overall i dont think it matters at all, i only know a few ppl who only fill up at one spot no matter what-i just go wherever its cheapest

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Don't think I've answered this here before, so here is my 2 cents.

For the best performance you should always run the lowest octane possible. Higher octane has netted me a very small increase in mpg in my cars but I'm still testing that with the bike.

As for brand; I prefer Shell. The gas might be the same but the additives are what will get you. I will also use Phillips 66 and BP. You will never catch me at a Clark or Meijer though (not unless there is absolutely no other choice). Put a Clark across from a Shell that is charging 0.10 more per gallon and I will pay mor for the Shell every time. My dad is an auto shop owner who has turned wrenches all of his life and I believe him when he says those stations aren't good for your vehicle. I think it has something to do with gumming up the jets but don't quote me on it; I just know which ones to avoid. Course that being said I have filled up with the "crappy gas" on occasion. The only evident issue I see is with mpg (lower at the Clark/Meijer) as I don't go looking inside to see what it does .

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