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post #1 of 88 (permalink) Old 08-31-2006, 08:36 AM Thread Starter
 
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so what is it that you have against marriage?
Nothing against marriage in particular, but I'd rather have a garage full of bikes than a grumpy guy.
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Nothing against marriage in particular, but I'd rather have a garage full of bikes than a grumpy guy.
we usually don't turn grumpy until we get married.
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If you add no kids ever to that list, that'll make you my dream woman.

Hey Pucky.....how U doin .....call me
I've been saying that for years. I don't have the time or the money for kids.. and if I got pregnant RIGHT now! (Aint happening) I would be 50 before the kid turned 18... yeah, not a good time to START planning for retirement. I'm set in my ways, and not going to change my lifestyle to accomodate an infant.
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Priorities... I'd rather have a content man, house full of dogs, and a garage full of bikes, than a wedding ring and marriage any day. But that's me.
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we usually don't turn grumpy until we get married.
If you read my WHOLE previous post, I noted that if I had a house full of animals, and a garage full of bikes and my man was content, Marriage wasn't a priority.
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If you read my WHOLE previous post, I noted that if I had a house full of animals, and a garage full of bikes and my man was content, Marriage wasn't a priority.
I read your post but I guess I don't understand what your version of content is.
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I guess I don't understand what you're asking. Content = content, Twisty's happy with pippi and bikes and dogs, and doesn't need a wedding... = content. If that was the situation, I wouldn't give a [email protected] about an engagement ring or a wedding.
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I guess I don't understand what you're asking. Content = content, Twisty's happy with pippi and bikes and dogs, and doesn't need a wedding... = content. If that was the situation, I wouldn't give a [email protected] about an engagement ring or a wedding.
So basically, why fix it if it's not broken.
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Although on Pippi's side... if that's all it takes to make her happy... it's not like the paper means anything anymore. Without Kids divorce is easy. Michigan is a no-fault state... Sign the papers and pay the fee.
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Although on Pippi's side... if that's all it takes to make her happy... it's not like the paper means anything anymore. Without Kids divorce is easy. Michigan is a no-fault state... Sign the papers and pay the fee.
not to sound like a smart azz or anything but what pippi does, you do the same....? I guess what I'm trying to figure out is why a woman would not want to be "married" with children as opposed living the single life. This is not directed at you so don't take it that way.
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Why would I want to be married with kids? I respect people who make that commitment. But I have absolutly no reason to want that lifestyle. You're trying to figure out why I could care less about marriage and children, but I don't even know where to start this conversation. Why do you think I should want that lifestyle? We have no common frame of reference. I have not had that as a dream or goal since I turned 18 and left my little home town and discovered the big wide world.
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I guess what I'm trying to figure out is why a woman would not want to be "married" with children as opposed living the single life.
(ok, I'm coming in on the end of this, so please forgive me if I'm repeating what someone else has alreadt stated, but.....)

Not everyone dreams of finding prince charming, having a big fluffy white wedding, and being June & Ward Cleaver. Marriage is not for everyone... sometimes people learn the hard way after a failed one, and some people just know from the start it's not for them. Others might be in a perfectly secure and stable relationship, but have the (as you said) "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality... they know they're happy, they know they're committed, so the 'piece of paper' is merely a trivial detail.

I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.....?

If it were a MAN who was content with the way things were, and he wasn't chomping at the bit to walk down the aisle, you wouldn't think twice about it, but because it's a woman there's the expectation that she should want marraige?
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(and for the record, I AM in a secure, happy, committed relationship, and marriage is in the future. That much we know. But if it wasn't? It wouldn't exactly be the end of the world..... I'd much rather be happy and yes, content with the man of my dreams, than miserable with Mr. Wrong and a big rock on my finger... been there, done that.... )
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(ok, I'm coming in on the end of this, so please forgive me if I'm repeating what someone else has alreadt stated, but.....)

Not everyone dreams of finding prince charming, having a big fluffy white wedding, and being June & Ward Cleaver. Marriage is not for everyone... sometimes people learn the hard way after a failed one, and some people just know from the start it's not for them. Others might be in a perfectly secure and stable relationship, but have the (as you said) "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality... they know they're happy, they know they're committed, so the 'piece of paper' is merely a trivial detail.

I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.....?

If it were a MAN who was content with the way things were, and he wasn't chomping at the bit to walk down the aisle, you wouldn't think twice about it, but because it's a woman there's the expectation that she should want marraige?
no, no, no....I would say the same thing if the role was reversed, actually my view point would be why would a man not want to have a "seed" to carry on their name. There is no expection just because pucky is a female.

It's not that I don't understand, I was just wondering why some female are for marriage and others are against it, but would rather be with someone but never actually married to them. ie.....Oprah.....
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Nee your getting ready to get married right?
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no, no, no....I would say the same thing if the role was reversed, actually my view point would be why would a man not want to have a "seed" to carry on their name. There is no expection just because pucky is a female.

It's not that I don't understand, I was just wondering why some female are for marriage and others are against it, but would rather be with someone but never actually married to them. ie.....Oprah.....
As for the seed to carry on... With world populations on the rise, people living longer and the stress we're putting on nature. Why should I feel obligated to increase the poplulation? Carry on the family line... My mother was the oldest of 4. All three of her brothers have 3 kids. My father had a younger brother who did have children also. Both lines continue without me contributing to what I see as a world problem.
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Ideally my dream was to be a wanderer, have great meaningless sex with every woman I came across, and generally be free as the wind...

That is the stereotypical male right? An dnot generally true either. You can't stereo type women or men and make statements based on that misconception. People are individuals which means each of us have different goals and understandings about or wants and needs and guess what ? It changes as we change throughout our lives.

Now I am happy as can be wife my wife and 2.5 kids. OK so somedays i still dream of having a harem, but I wouldn't give it all up for that. Marriage is a mainstay of society but definitley not something you can force on everyone.

As long as your happy being who you are and meeting your needs who is to judge
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As for the seed to carry on... With world populations on the rise, people living longer and the stress we're putting on nature. Why should I feel obligated to increase the poplulation? Carry on the family line... My mother was the oldest of 4. All three of her brothers have 3 kids. My father had a younger brother who did have children also. Both lines continue without me contributing to what I see as a world problem.
Ok, so we may be like China in the next 50yrs or so . There is no need for someone to feel obligated to increase the worlds populatioon just by being married. I know many married couples that don't have any children. I also know many "couples" that have broken up over the smallest of things, only becuse they can because they were not married and it's so much easier to do. If your spouse, lover, boyfriend was to stray from your relationship, can you blame him for wanting more out of the relationship?

Note: I know I'm about to be beat up for that last comment.
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no, no, no....I would say the same thing if the role was reversed, actually my view point would be why would a man not want to have a "seed" to carry on their name. There is no expection just because pucky is a female.
Oh my God, are you a caveman or something? "Seed" to carry on their name? Holy crap.... that's some funny stuff right there...

Children are a HUGE responsibility; I give MAD RESPECT to people (male or female) who recognize that parenting isn't for them, and make the conscious decision to NOT have children. There are far too many neglected, unloved and abused children on this earth, and if every man spread his 'seed' solely to carry on his name, we'd have MILLIONS more neglected children to contend with on this earth.

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It's not that I don't understand, I was just wondering why some female are for marriage and others are against it, but would rather be with someone but never actually married to them. ie.....Oprah.....
Are you for real? Why do some women collect shoes and others don't? Why do some women have long hair, and others prefer it short? Why are some vegetarians and others are omnivores? Because we're all individuals. We don't all share one brain. We aren't all wired exactly alike. We are living, breathing, individual entities (just as men are), capable of free thought and of determining what is best for us as human beings. I really don't see what's so difficult to understand......
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