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Re-evaluating the word friend-GXR-750 K6
I don't know if any of you know me, but whether u do or not I consider this TWF like family & I need to call on family now so show me some love, die hard truth, logic, and neutrality.
I'm a gov't contract worker in the middle east currently & I left my GXR-750 K6 in my garage a month ago. I had just repaired it for the most part because I dropped it. Only thing that was left to repair was the left mirror, but the bolt was stripped & I asked my best friend to fix it for me. I figured he would repair it in my garage since that is where we repaired the rest of the bike(fairings, windscreen,fender, etc). I go back to work in the Middle East and he sends me an e-mail a week later saying the mirror was fixed and I thanked him.
Here is the issue.My daughter's mother went to my home to check on things & she instant messaged me telling me the bike wasn't there. I'm freaking out.My brother told her that my friend said that I asked him to repair the bike & told my brother that I said he could take it. I only have liability insurance only by the way. My brother said he had the bike for 3 weeks and even came over to get my gloves claiming his hands were hurting from riding the bike.I immediately sent word to him to put my bike in the garage. He's been my boy since High School so how should I handle this situation. I've already said he can't use my car or my bike anymore. I'm just thinking I would have never done that to a friend. So my question is, Is he not a true friend or am I making a big deal out of nothing. He has had my back in the past, for which I am appreciative.
I'm a gov't contract worker in the middle east currently & I left my GXR-750 K6 in my garage a month ago. I had just repaired it for the most part because I dropped it. Only thing that was left to repair was the left mirror, but the bolt was stripped & I asked my best friend to fix it for me. I figured he would repair it in my garage since that is where we repaired the rest of the bike(fairings, windscreen,fender, etc). I go back to work in the Middle East and he sends me an e-mail a week later saying the mirror was fixed and I thanked him.
Here is the issue.My daughter's mother went to my home to check on things & she instant messaged me telling me the bike wasn't there. I'm freaking out.My brother told her that my friend said that I asked him to repair the bike & told my brother that I said he could take it. I only have liability insurance only by the way. My brother said he had the bike for 3 weeks and even came over to get my gloves claiming his hands were hurting from riding the bike.I immediately sent word to him to put my bike in the garage. He's been my boy since High School so how should I handle this situation. I've already said he can't use my car or my bike anymore. I'm just thinking I would have never done that to a friend. So my question is, Is he not a true friend or am I making a big deal out of nothing. He has had my back in the past, for which I am appreciative.
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Sounds like a shiesty deal. has any harm come to your bike from this? was there maybe a miscomunication?
maybe he though since he fixxed it w/o you you owed it to him, who knows. From the sound of things dont get too upset about it right now. If it's possible that he stole it than you should know how to get ahold of the guy and kick his ass, and if he claims he didnt steal it and its still missing you know where to find him.
The law is very sketchy otherwise, in this sort of situation though. Unless you have documented proof that you said he WAS allowed to use your facilities but was NOT allowed to take the bike off your property than you are out of luck.
what you need to do is explain to HIM how serious the situation is, and that your friendship may be on the line. If he values you as a friend he'll understand.
maybe he though since he fixxed it w/o you you owed it to him, who knows. From the sound of things dont get too upset about it right now. If it's possible that he stole it than you should know how to get ahold of the guy and kick his ass, and if he claims he didnt steal it and its still missing you know where to find him.
The law is very sketchy otherwise, in this sort of situation though. Unless you have documented proof that you said he WAS allowed to use your facilities but was NOT allowed to take the bike off your property than you are out of luck.
what you need to do is explain to HIM how serious the situation is, and that your friendship may be on the line. If he values you as a friend he'll understand.
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Bike is back in the garage now.
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Sounds like a shiesty deal. has any harm come to your bike from this? was there maybe a miscomunication?
maybe he though since he fixxed it w/o you you owed it to him, who knows. From the sound of things dont get too upset about it right now. If it's possible that he stole it than you should know how to get ahold of the guy and kick his ass, and if he claims he didnt steal it and its still missing you know where to find him.
what you need to do is explain to HIM how serious the situation is, and that your friendship may be on the line. If he values you as a friend he'll understand.
maybe he though since he fixxed it w/o you you owed it to him, who knows. From the sound of things dont get too upset about it right now. If it's possible that he stole it than you should know how to get ahold of the guy and kick his ass, and if he claims he didnt steal it and its still missing you know where to find him.
what you need to do is explain to HIM how serious the situation is, and that your friendship may be on the line. If he values you as a friend he'll understand.
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He's just taking advantage of you-period. Sure he helped fix you bike but did he pay for it? I used to have friends that would do sh*t like that. Funny that ususally these "friends" can't afford to replace or even buy a bike if they wreck them. Honestly drop your "friend", if he was your friend he wouldn't be taking what's yours out for his own enjoyment.
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yah this really boils down to a matter of respect. He doesnt respect you enough to understand that you were concerned about your investment. Bikes arent toys, they are very expensive. If he is too childish to man up and say "im sorry i took advantage of your trust" then you are better of seeing him less and less, he'll only bring you down with him man.
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Respect/ taken advantage
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yah this really boils down to a matter of respect. He doesnt respect you enough to understand that you were concerned about your investment. Bikes arent toys, they are very expensive. If he is too childish to man up and say "im sorry i took advantage of your trust" then you are better of seeing him less and less, he'll only bring you down with him man.
wash your hands of this fool. would he just take it upon himself to help himself to your girlfriend if you left her behind? that's not a friend...
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I caught my ex wife sleeping with my supposed best friend.... he was my best friend for over 10 years...my brst man in my wedding... and was my daughter's godfather.... I have a real problem with trust now... so i let actions do the talking. confront him and ask him why he took the bike out and if it looks like bull**** and smells like bull****..... then it's bull****... if the reason sounds legit... you make the call.
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True friends???
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I caught my ex wife sleeping with my supposed best friend.... he was my best friend for over 10 years...my brst man in my wedding... and was my daughter's godfather.... I have a real problem with trust now... so i let actions do the talking. confront him and ask him why he took the bike out and if it looks like bull**** and smells like bull****..... then it's bull****... if the reason sounds legit... you make the call.
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ouch man. he might be a friend but he cant really be trusted. only one of my friends rides my bike (when i know hes ridin it) and he knows if he hurts it i ride his while he fixes it! I could ride a cbr900 if he wrecked my cbr929. woudnt like any of it but i would.
i wouldnt say ditch him but id make sure he didnt have a key to my house or garage!
i wouldnt say ditch him but id make sure he didnt have a key to my house or garage!
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I would say that your friend is at the least very disrespectful of your property, and I would not put up with that. If he were to own up to being wrong about taking your nike with out permission and apologize I might let it slide. If he doesn't see what the deal is then he is not the kind of friend you should have. Its one thing to lend a friend in need a hundred bucks and know that it could be a very long time if ever that you get payed back. It is a totaly different matter for a friend to decieve your brother and use your bike with out asking you that is not cool at all...
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He's just taking advantage of you-period. Sure he helped fix you bike but did he pay for it? I used to have friends that would do sh*t like that. Funny that ususally these "friends" can't afford to replace or even buy a bike if they wreck them. Honestly drop your "friend", if he was your friend he wouldn't be taking what's yours out for his own enjoyment.
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yah this really boils down to a matter of respect. He doesnt respect you enough to understand that you were concerned about your investment. Bikes arent toys, they are very expensive. If he is too childish to man up and say "im sorry i took advantage of your trust" then you are better of seeing him less and less, he'll only bring you down with him man.
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wash your hands of this fool. would he just take it upon himself to help himself to your girlfriend if you left her behind? that's not a friend...Quote:
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I caught my ex wife sleeping with my supposed best friend.... he was my best friend for over 10 years...my brst man in my wedding... and was my daughter's godfather.... I have a real problem with trust now... so i let actions do the talking. confront him and ask him why he took the bike out and if it looks like bull**** and smells like bull****..... then it's bull****... if the reason sounds legit... you make the call.
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I would say that your friend is at the least very disrespectful of your property, and I would not put up with that. If he were to own up to being wrong about taking your nike with out permission and apologize I might let it slide. If he doesn't see what the deal is then he is not the kind of friend you should have. Its one thing to lend a friend in need a hundred bucks and know that it could be a very long time if ever that you get payed back. It is a totaly different matter for a friend to decieve your brother and use your bike with out asking you that is not cool at all...
I would drop this guy like a bad habit man....or a good habit in my case....Like it girl said in my eyes that is like helping you self to my girl.....
not gonna happen with out getting shot at in the process.
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Man that's unbelievable. Makes you wonder if he was doing her while ya'll were still married. That's like the most disrespectful thing I ever heard. Here I am talking about a bike, but this was your ex-wife. I feel for you bro. There is just no comparison between a bike and a person you love. Well, I do love my bike and that is why I'm seriously considering dumping him as a friend. Because friends do friendly things and not evil things. As friends we screw up sometimes, but as friends we don't Fk up<<< Can I say Fk on this site?
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Ok, here's my take on it. He was disrespectful for assuming you wouldn't mind if he rode your bike. But he was respectful enough to return it immediately when you messaged him. I think you should first make it clear (without being an ass) that you simply don't want your bike being ridden while you're away. Explain about the insurance and the fact that you just got the bike fixed. You don't want it wrecked and your insurance won't cover him (it would, but he probably doesn't know that). Try to make it sound like it's in his best interest to NOT ride the bike. Explain that you only have liability and you wouldn't want him owing you to replace the bike if it's wrecked. Or just say that even though he's your friend, you simply don't want anyone to ride your bike. If he understands this, then all is good. If he doesn't, then it's definitely time to find a new friend. But keep in mind, true friends are harder to find than new bikes.
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Ok, here's my take on it. He was disrespectful for assuming you wouldn't mind if he rode your bike. But he was respectful enough to return it immediately when you messaged him. I think you should first make it clear (without being an ass) that you simply don't want your bike being ridden while you're away. Explain about the insurance and the fact that you just got the bike fixed. You don't want it wrecked and your insurance won't cover him (it would, but he probably doesn't know that). Try to make it sound like it's in his best interest to NOT ride the bike. Explain that you only have liability and you wouldn't want him owing you to replace the bike if it's wrecked. Or just say that even though he's your friend, you simply don't want anyone to ride your bike. If he understands this, then all is good. If he doesn't, then it's definitely time to find a new friend. But keep in mind, true friends are harder to find than new bikes.
That pretty much sums it up perfectly...
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Ok, here's my take on it. He was disrespectful for assuming you wouldn't mind if he rode your bike. But he was respectful enough to return it immediately when you messaged him. I think you should first make it clear (without being an ass) that you simply don't want your bike being ridden while you're away. Explain about the insurance and the fact that you just got the bike fixed. You don't want it wrecked and your insurance won't cover him (it would, but he probably doesn't know that). Try to make it sound like it's in his best interest to NOT ride the bike. Explain that you only have liability and you wouldn't want him owing you to replace the bike if it's wrecked. Or just say that even though he's your friend, you simply don't want anyone to ride your bike. If he understands this, then all is good. If he doesn't, then it's definitely time to find a new friend. But keep in mind, true friends are harder to find than new bikes.
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damn I hate it when some one argues and makes since........he is right.
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a "friend" of mine wanted to take my bike to the next city (45min away) i just looked at him and laughed. there is only one other person who has riddin my bike. he is a very good friend and if he wrecked it.. he has the money to replace it.
other then that. no one tuches _her_!
and if some one took her with out me knowing.. id find out why and if i didn't like the answer.. id be kickin some ass.
other then that. no one tuches _her_!
and if some one took her with out me knowing.. id find out why and if i didn't like the answer.. id be kickin some ass.
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Ok, here's my take on it. He was disrespectful for assuming you wouldn't mind if he rode your bike. But he was respectful enough to return it immediately when you messaged him. I think you should first make it clear (without being an ass) that you simply don't want your bike being ridden while you're away. Explain about the insurance and the fact that you just got the bike fixed. You don't want it wrecked and your insurance won't cover him (it would, but he probably doesn't know that). Try to make it sound like it's in his best interest to NOT ride the bike. Explain that you only have liability and you wouldn't want him owing you to replace the bike if it's wrecked. Or just say that even though he's your friend, you simply don't want anyone to ride your bike. If he understands this, then all is good. If he doesn't, then it's definitely time to find a new friend. But keep in mind, true friends are harder to find than new bikes.
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