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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 05-13-2007, 11:56 AM Thread Starter
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I lost one this week

I hesitate to even post this as I'm sure there'll be cacaphony of posts and thoughts of "that's what you get" or "they were probably squids and got what they deserved" from a number of you but here goes... Thursday evening at around 8pm there was a ride in some of our back woods area around here. One of the guys on a Kawasaki 636 came into a corner a little hot and lost it. A guy that was quite a bit behind him on a Hayabusa got target fixated and ran off right behind him. I didn't see the accident myself but from all accounts the first guy was playing "catch up" to the leaders and got out of his comfort zone. The first guy has lost his leg as a result and has possible spinal damage and the second guy unfortunately broke his neck and was dead on the scene. Just for the record,both of them were wearing helmets, jackets and gloves and the guy on the 'Busa was 61 and had only slightly less experience on a bike than me. I've known the first guy for about 6 years when he got his first bike and we went to Daytona together. The second guy I've known almost 20 years and helped him with his technique back when I had a '88 Yamaha V-Max and he had Kawasaki Eliminator. Maybe, I should have helped him more(or even possibly less considering the outcome). They were both good friends and good riders even if the guy on the 636 would pull a wheelie once in a while and the guy on the 'Busa would speed "excessively" on occasion. THEY WERE NOT SQUIDS OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT!!! So all of the self-rightious members of this forum can just keep it to themselves or at least pm each other about what "squids" and "idiots" we/they are/were. I am a firm believer in the notion that you will go when it's your time and I know there wasn't anything I could have done to prevent this BUT it doesn't make it any easier to face the families at the funeral home or the hospital. The only comfort I ,and hopefully the families have,is that they were both doing what they loved the most and quite frankly,I hope the same can be said for me when I go. Thanks for your time, Lon

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post #2 of 31 (permalink) Old 05-13-2007, 12:07 PM
 
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Man I am sorry to hear that. I know what you mean by the self-rightious members. Even if they are, were, or aren't squids it still doesn't justify death or serious injury. Good luck with the families and like you said there was nothing you could've done.
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Sorry to hear the news a lot of this is happening lately everyone please be safe RIP Dudes
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If they had gear on then they don't qualify as squids in my book. I'm sure they were just enjoying themselves.
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That doesn't sound like squidly behavior...

Sucks to hear about losses like this... How you are you holding up?

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That really sucks..RIP....
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Sorry to hear about your friends. Keep your head up and know he is in a better place- with NO speed limits. RIP

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That sucks man.

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I wish the other guy a speedy recovery.




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post #9 of 31 (permalink) Old 05-13-2007, 03:33 PM
 
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I wish the ones that made it through a quick speedy and wholesom recovery. And I am so sorry for your loss RIP man. Your friends were not squids at all in my book,,you guys were just people with BRAINS for wearing gear out to have a good time...SH*T happends man...sometimes you are just the one on the bad end of it no matter how many precautions you take.
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That doesn't sound like squidly behavior...

Sucks to hear about losses like this... How you are you holding up?

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Fine I guess...I'm having a hard time getting on my bike right now. Sometimes you wonder if it's even worth it. Between the cops and the injuries and just the bs that comes with this lifestyle. I just don't know... whenever this happens I always think" should I have been going slower?" or was there something I could have said before the ride that would have slowed him down? Some of the other guys are VERY traumatized and I don't know what to say to them. I've been in all three positions before; I've crashed,I've been the leader and I've been behind someone going down. I'm here to tell those that don't know that none of these spots feel very good and that's why about 90% of the miles I put on are by myself. Anyway,thanks for the kind words,I'm gonna try to ride again and put this out of my mind.

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Fine I guess...I'm having a hard time getting on my bike right now. Sometimes you wonder if it's even worth it. Between the cops and the injuries and just the bs that comes with this lifestyle. I just don't know... whenever this happens I always think" should I have been going slower?" or was there something I could have said before the ride that would have slowed him down? Some of the other guys are VERY traumatized and I don't know what to say to them. I've been in all three positions before; I've crashed,I've been the leader and I've been behind someone going down. I'm here to tell those that don't know that none of these spots feel very good and that's why about 90% of the miles I put on are by myself. Anyway,thanks for the kind words,I'm gonna try to ride again and put this out of my mind.
Well bro, I can also tell you that you won't quit riding. It's a lifestyle and it pulls you in the moment you learn to use the throttle properly. You will be fine, time takes care of trauma. Everyone's been there or will experience it eventually, just talk to the guys and make sure they are ok to get back on. Take it easy and get back into it. I'm with you on the solo riding man, I always ride solo unless I know the guys and ride with them frequently.
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I'm sorry to hear about this. R.I.P. and get well soon to the two riders. Just take it easy when you get back on your bike. Don't go and do anything stupid.
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God Bless....I know how you feel...lost a good friend last November when we were out with our sandrails and he rolled his and got killed.
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Sorry to hear about that. Hope the one guy makes a good recovery.
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I hesitate to even post this as I'm sure there'll be cacaphony of posts and thoughts of "that's what you get" or "they were probably squids and got what they deserved" from a number of you but here goes... Thursday evening at around 8pm there was a ride in some of our back woods area around here. One of the guys on a Kawasaki 636 came into a corner a little hot and lost it. A guy that was quite a bit behind him on a Hayabusa got target fixated and ran off right behind him. I didn't see the accident myself but from all accounts the first guy was playing "catch up" to the leaders and got out of his comfort zone. The first guy has lost his leg as a result and has possible spinal damage and the second guy unfortunately broke his neck and was dead on the scene. Just for the record,both of them were wearing helmets, jackets and gloves and the guy on the 'Busa was 61 and had only slightly less experience on a bike than me. I've known the first guy for about 6 years when he got his first bike and we went to Daytona together. The second guy I've known almost 20 years and helped him with his technique back when I had a '88 Yamaha V-Max and he had Kawasaki Eliminator. Maybe, I should have helped him more(or even possibly less considering the outcome). They were both good friends and good riders even if the guy on the 636 would pull a wheelie once in a while and the guy on the 'Busa would speed "excessively" on occasion. THEY WERE NOT SQUIDS OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT!!! So all of the self-rightious members of this forum can just keep it to themselves or at least pm each other about what "squids" and "idiots" we/they are/were. I am a firm believer in the notion that you will go when it's your time and I know there wasn't anything I could have done to prevent this BUT it doesn't make it any easier to face the families at the funeral home or the hospital. The only comfort I ,and hopefully the families have,is that they were both doing what they loved the most and quite frankly,I hope the same can be said for me when I go. Thanks for your time, Lon




sorry man...that sucks bad....you and your friend are in my thoughts and prayers.....

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That doesn't sound like squidly behavior...

Sucks to hear about losses like this... How you are you holding up?

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I agree...it doesn't sound squidly to me...

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sorry to hear you lost a couple good friends. they were wearing their gear, just a couple guys out having a good time that got away from them and ended badly, nothing squidly about that. I wish your buddy a speedy and full recovery, and RIP to the one in heaven.
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Truly sorry about your loss, and wish the other guy a speedy recovery.

At least now the man on the Busa can do what he loves all day long in complete riding happiness and never have to worry with back pain, numb butt, police, or other stupid drivers!

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We only heckle people about unsafe riding because in most cases the few represent the whole, and i've never seen a news article about how John Q Wright made a safe comute to work on monday... some cases cant be avoided, but more often than not accidents occur when somebody is doing something they shouldnt be doing on a motorcycle. like riding outside their limits or faster than the indicated speed limit around corners they are unfamiliar with.

That said, nobody deserves to pay such a hefty price for doing something they love. loosing your life or limb is a horrible thing. Thanks for sharing your situation regardless, at the very least it may keep a few riders safer around these parts.


I'll repeat what was said to me a while back, that i've allways kept in mind. If it makes you frown, slow it down.

sorry your friend died, man.
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