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I was looking at the bike sites.. Kawi, Honda etc. I was wondering why Honda Yamaha and Suzuki don't have 250 and 500 sport bikes? You would think that they would, to help bring new and younger riders to there flock..
Do u think they should? I do.
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I was looking at the bike sites.. Kawi, Honda etc. I was wondering why Honda Yamaha and Suzuki don't have 250 and 500 sport bikes? You would think that they would, to help bring new and younger riders to there flock..
Do u think they should? I do.
Suzi has a 500... Actually, they all have some various smaller displacement bikes... Hell, Honda even has a 125 sportbike... They sell those smaller bikes outside of the US because our noobs are sweet enough to start out on Busa's.
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I was looking at the bike sites.. Kawi, Honda etc. I was wondering why Honda Yamaha and Suzuki don't have 250 and 500 sport bikes? You would think that they would, to help bring new and younger riders to there flock..
Do u think they should? I do.
Suzuki has the gs500f

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OSP beat me to it, but yeah they all make 250cc and smaller bikes everywhere else in the world. You see a lot more small displacement bikes than 600cc+ in other countries, us americans just like the big bikes for some damn reason.

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OSP beat me to it, but yeah they all make 250cc and smaller bikes everywhere else in the world. You see a lot more small displacement bikes than 600cc+ in other countries, us americans just like the big bikes for some damn reason.
Us Americans have amazingly large penises... that's why.
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Not 2 smart on this damn magic box. I missed the suzuki.. How bout Yamaha??
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or amazingly small penises and are just trying to compensate for it.....





















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or amazingly small penises and are just trying to compensate for it.....
I got nothin'!!!!
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Why you speak the truth anyone that thinks they need a little to look <insert egotistical adjective here>. If we were to look at track times between the superbikes n the supersport classes I believe their is like less than a 1 second difference. Translate to the street? Yes you got it nuttin but ego boosting because a 1k will never hell a 600 will never be pushed to its limits on the street. Plain facts guys accept it

Ok let the flaming n crying begin....................
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I know Kawasaki makes the EX500, and 250, which are technically sportbikes, although the 500 to me is more or less a sport tourer without saddlebags.

Suzuki, theres the GS500 E and F series, the F model being styled much like the K4/5 GSXR in a way.

Honda has the CBR125, I think 250, and 500 in europe, but they REALLY should import them to the US.

Yamaha, I have no idea about.
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I know Kawasaki makes the EX500, and 250, which are technically sportbikes, although the 500 to me is more or less a sport tourer without saddlebags.

Suzuki, theres the GS500 E and F series, the F model being styled much like the K4/5 GSXR in a way.

Honda has the CBR125, I think 250, and 500 in europe, but they REALLY should import them to the US.

Yamaha, I have no idea about.
Honda does or they wouldnt be in the 250 or 500 class of motogp. Dunno why they dont import em here
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Why you speak the truth anyone that thinks they need a little to look <insert egotistical adjective here>. If we were to look at track times between the superbikes n the supersport classes I believe their is like less than a 1 second difference. Translate to the street? Yes you got it nuttin but ego boosting because a 1k will never hell a 600 will never be pushed to its limits on the street. Plain facts guys accept it

Ok let the flaming n crying begin....................







hey it's better if that stuff comes from a guy... but yea i'd agree.....

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I have a Ninja 500. First street bike. I love it. Going 2 upgrade to a 600 next year. Just going to the sites had me thinking.
My daughter is 14 going on 15 and she wants a Honda. She doesn't want a Kawi like her Old man. And I wont let her start on a 600. Want some thing smaller. I guess she could use my bike but that is still 2 big for my likes....
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I have a Ninja 500. First street bike. I love it. Going 2 upgrade to a 600 next year. Just going to the sites had me thinking.
My daughter is 14 going on 15 and she wants a Honda. She doesn't want a Kawi like her Old man. And I wont let her start on a 600. Want some thing smaller. I guess she could use my bike but that is still 2 big for my likes....
Honda does sell the 125cc in the US but it isnt street legal. You may look into what it would cost to but it n make it street legal.
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What do u have 2 do to make it legal?
Lights blinkers and a lic plate on back??
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What do u have 2 do to make it legal?
Lights blinkers and a lic plate on back??
purdy much, mirrors depending on the state.
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Forgot mirrors. Thanx. Its a idea.
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They don't sell the 125s/250s/500s in the US because they dont sell as well. It's about money, not about keeping people from killing themselves on bikes too big for them.

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They don't sell the 125s/250s/500s in the US because they dont sell as well. It's about money, not about keeping people from killing themselves on bikes too big for them.
the honda site has the 125 listed but its just in race form.
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Yanks are pretty lazy also, I know I would not have wanted to put up with mixing my own fuel/oil mixture for every tank of gas if I started on a two stroke. The nothing....nothing....nothing...EVERYTHING!!! powerband doesn't sound like much fun either.
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If we were to look at track times between the superbikes n the supersport classes I believe their is like less than a 1 second difference. Translate to the street? Yes you got it nuttin but ego boosting because a 1k will never hell a 600 will never be pushed to its limits on the street. Plain facts guys accept it

Ok let the flaming n crying begin....................
Depends on what you mean by "pushed to its limits". Most people don't buy sportbikes to go on track, or even to be used in serious twisty's. The huge pose factor, cheap fun and speed sells sportbikes mostly.
The same statement about using full potention is true of Ferrari's, Lotus's, Porsche's, corvette's or any other serious sportscar or supercar. We don't bust their balls about using "too much for the road" though do we? This is partly because bikes are cheap and a LOT of idiots wrap themselves around trees on flashy new literbikes. This is also because it seems crazy that it's so easy for the masses to have access to a truly race-ready bike that can decimate any car on the road for under 10 grand. The Ferrari Enzo or Bugatti Veyron costs a few million bucks so we think "eh that's allright, only a few rich old guys can afford em". Go take a look at wreckedexotics.com and change your mind.

The minority is the people who preach getting rid of chicken strips and learning the proper way to corner, as on here. I've done this and still do try to be a better, more skilled rider.
Most sportbikers do not do this, hence why the hayabusa has been such a huge grand slam for suzuki along will all the other hyperbikes. All hayabusa riders are NOT bad or idiot riders. But owning one gives a certain statement of intentions that you're not too into canyon carving, you're more into dragging or highway rips. The Hayabusa has been one of Suzuki's greatest hits as a company btw. Lot's of people want that kind of bike.

And I'd love to own one.

That's right, too much power is a fantastic thrill. I ride a hell of a lot in the twisty's and while a 600 could go faster around a turn and may feel more smug about doing it with less power and more finesse, the idiots at the bar like my bike more and so do I. I find myslef laughing at the thrill of riding my bike on a daily basis.

I shun newbs from riding liter bikes and a couple posts on this site made me realize modern 600 supersports are pretty ferocious for a newby also.

600's can't be pushed to their limits on the streets. True...in a stricly legal sense. There's some pretty extreme pictures on killboy of 600's all the way on their sides and there's lots of other roads in the US where people get just as low and fast. You'll have to dig a little harder but I'm sure there's many pictures of liter bikes being leaned over just as far. Are they going as fast as a pro could on a racetrack? Probably not but they're definately using a hell of a lot of the bikes ability.

A huge part of "ability" is horsepower and America is the land of the superhighway. It's uncool to admit on this site but I enjoy the odd early morning highway blitz. It's wrong, illegal, unsafe to myself and others, childish and more. And I do it anyway.
It is fun to watch the neat little digital speedo click higher and higher into license busting oblivion every now and then.

No offense PG, just felt that I needed to uphold a difference of opinion with you and several others on here.
Insanely powerful motorcycles are not useless or simply ego boosting for the street or anywhere else. There's a lot of life enhancing thrill to be had and I suggest you put a few hundred miles on a couple before you write them off completely.



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