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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 08-16-2007, 08:14 PM Thread Starter
 
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Feckin computer freezes

It's 3 months old, someone who shall remain nameless *cough* fiances brother who is with us while their parents are on vacation in Mehico*cough* decided to download some games from Limewire....

It was an executable and he had clue what he was doing apparently. Needless to say it was not a game but some sort of evil POS.

Now I have free range on the introweb and can access any games and such, but everything in "my computer" freezes, every file. Say for instance, you open "my music" where the thumbnails should be it shows a square and never loads the thumb of the song. It's also rearranged all my songs in alphabetical order, and I had them from newest to oldest, so I could find the songs I CURRENTLY liked.

Regardless, Norton can't find anything, Ad aware deleted the tracks of his porn surfing (he's 16) but nothing has fixed this.

Any computer nerds here? I have no access to music, pictures or anything else beyond what has a link in the start menu.
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post #2 of 38 (permalink) Old 08-16-2007, 08:24 PM
 
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Sounds like he mauled up your hard drive...
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I just don't understand why the internet works, all thegames work, and things like the solitare games that come with windows xp still function, arent they all on the HD? I'm thinking it might be a corupted file, but then have no idea what to do about that either.
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I just don't understand why the internet works, all thegames work, and things like the solitare games that come with windows xp still function, arent they all on the HD? I'm thinking it might be a corupted file, but then have no idea what to do about that either.
eh yea limewire n exe's you got to be REAL careful. alot of big program/game names listed but their file size is like 758Kb good games these days are at least 1 GB, older ones in teh 5-700MB range. See if you can download n install hijack this n run it. It will give a detailed list of what is running and then paste it here b4 tryin to delete anything. Hijackthis can bee ya best friend or worst enemy if you dont know wtf ya deleting

If you are not able to download n install that you may need something that can be download on another computer n burnt to a CD so you can boot form it n fix the issue. and BTW norton's sux
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Try Spybot Search and Destroy I have better luck with it than Adaware. I would also clean the registry. Norton is a PoS imo, get McAfee. If that fails do a system restore and see if that helps. Or if you are absolutely dead set against restoring you could always get EndItAll and just run it every time you start your computer lol.
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Try Spybot Search and Destroy I have better luck with it than Adaware. I would also clean the registry. Norton is a PoS imo, get McAfee. If that fails do a system restore and see if that helps. Or if you are absolutely dead set against restoring you could always get EndItAll and just run it every time you start your computer lol.
McAfee sux too IMO I use AVG Pro. It finds as much if not more than either nortons or McAfees does. And their free version works as good just less control features.

Yea Spybot is good stuff too. On XP I used it, then ran Adaware to get what it missed n vice versa. Restoring to a earlier point is good advice too. I know alot of wasy to deal with but none thans easy to explain online I look at the running processes when I think I may have something (rare :lol) and see if I see anything I dont regonize.
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Yea EnditAll closes all running processes that arnt standard for windows to run (ie it will keep explorer.exe running but stop coolfreepr0n)
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Yea EnditAll closes all running processes that arnt standard for windows to run (ie it will keep explorer.exe running but stop coolfreepr0n)
kewl aint heard of that one will check it out next tyme I am fixings someones ate up puter
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Ok, I'm an IT guy (computer nerd) for the government. I'll tell you this:

1. Spybot and AdAware are both bs. Neither of them really work. They both show false positives and as said, "one picks up what the other doesn't"; yeah, that's the false positives.

2. Limewire, and all of those file sharing programs, leave open connections to your computer once you install them and those connections stay open even if you close the program and then turn the machine off and on.

3. The only way to get rid of them, sorry to say, is a wipe and reload. That'll remove all program installs as well as registry keys that will open ports. These ports can allow a hacker to put a virus, worm, or other malicious code on your computer. We can even put a key logger so if you do any online banking or financial transactions, it'll catch all of your keystrokes for your passwords and user names.

4. Just wipe the machine and reload, if you don't know how, the machine should have came with "restore cds". These are what you'll need. If you want to backup (burn / save) any files, make sure that they are ONLY files you created. However, before you drop them back on the wiped out machine (after it's been reloaded), make sure you scan the cd with a virus protection program to make sure there are no viruses, trojans, worms or other malicious code on the cd.

5. Any antivirus program works. It depends on how up-to-date you keep it. If you're not updating it daily, it won't do squat. I prefer Symantec but they are all personal preference, you pick what YOU want, read some reviews on the net, ask some questions at the store, check the benchmarks on the programs (statistics for catching, detecting, removal of viruses and other malicious code). The thing that you may like about Symantec is that you can call them if you can't get rid of a virus and they'll do it for you, charge you like $50.00 though but it'll get rid of it. My sister used it before she called me, she's not bright but oh well.

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Ok, I'm an IT guy (computer nerd) for the government. I'll tell you this:

1. Spybot and AdAware are both bs. Neither of them really work. They both show false positives and as said, "one picks up what the other doesn't"; yeah, that's the false positives.

2. Limewire, and all of those file sharing programs, leave open connections to your computer once you install them and those connections stay open even if you close the program and then turn the machine off and on.

3. The only way to get rid of them, sorry to say, is a wipe and reload. That'll remove all program installs as well as registry keys that will open ports. These ports can allow a hacker to put a virus, worm, or other malicious code on your computer. We can even put a key logger so if you do any online banking or financial transactions, it'll catch all of your keystrokes for your passwords and user names.

4. Just wipe the machine and reload, if you don't know how, the machine should have came with "restore cds". These are what you'll need. If you want to backup (burn / save) any files, make sure that they are ONLY files you created. However, before you drop them back on the wiped out machine (after it's been reloaded), make sure you scan the cd with a virus protection program to make sure there are no viruses, trojans, worms or other malicious code on the cd.

5. Any antivirus program works. It depends on how up-to-date you keep it. If you're not updating it daily, it won't do squat. I prefer Symantec but they are all personal preference, you pick what YOU want, read some reviews on the net, ask some questions at the store, check the benchmarks on the programs (statistics for catching, detecting, removal of viruses and other malicious code). The thing that you may like about Symantec is that you can call them if you can't get rid of a virus and they'll do it for you, charge you like $50.00 though but it'll get rid of it. My sister used it before she called me, she's not bright but oh well.

Let me know if you need help.
nortons sux.

but I bet you limewire dones do chyt on my pc except what n when I use it. Yes it can if one is all click click n dont know wtf they are doing. And you should know this. Yes any anti-virus is better than no antivirus. Another thing is about a computer shop will clean a computer up for about $50. Symantec dont have a lock on that and their AV is a joke any kiddie with VB can get past it. And unless viri/bug what ever has embeded itself into the kernel (rare these days) or into the run.dll it can be cleaned off. It may be a PITA but it can be cleaned. Yes the restore CD's maybe the easiest way to fix said problem but there are ways to fix it. You should know all this. the govt teach you if it isnt the norm its bad??
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I use Kaspersky 6.0, updated daily, nightly computer scan. Slows down the comps operation a bit due to it's examination of all network tasks but nothing has gotten through in all of my surfing of seriously sketchy ass websites. I got it for free too

I also use peerguardian which blocks thousands of government, hacker, advertising and anti p2p organizations.

I don't download programs from any website I don't trust and only then when it's been reviewed thoroughly or seeded by many people with lots of good messages.

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2. Limewire, and all of those file sharing programs, leave open connections to your computer once you install them and those connections stay open even if you close the program and then turn the machine off and on.
I didnt mention removing limewire because I figured he uses it for songs since he mentioned having them organized. But yes limewire will KILL a computer by leaving open ports. I have a crap machine I use to DL everything, install it then check for sketchy activity, if its all good I then download it to my laptop which is my main machine.
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If u have sh)t backed up... format the disk and reinstall. its good for windows to be reinstalled fresh every once in a while IMO

if u don't have sh)t backed up...I'd find a scanner that u can boot from CD so the OS/ crap thats on there doesnt have a chance to load

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I didnt mention removing limewire because I figured he uses it for songs since he mentioned having them organized. But yes limewire will KILL a computer by leaving open ports. I have a crap machine I use to DL everything, install it then check for sketchy activity, if its all good I then download it to my laptop which is my main machine.
Funny it doesnt own my computer, nor does any other program I use. There are settings to control limewire and any other legit program. People really need to learn how to installs and configure their applications instead of saying it flocks computers up. Come on people.
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It's not the software itself that screws up your computer, its all the little holes and vulnerabilities it has that makes your computer more susceptible to viruses and crap. Not to mention half the stuff people download with it is already riddled with trojans and god knows what else.
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It's not the software itself that screws up your computer, its all the little holes and vulnerabilities it has that makes your computer more susceptible to viruses and crap. Not to mention half the stuff people download with it is already riddled with trojans and god knows what else.
about the crap people download but thats on them Only time my Limewire has its service ports open is while I am using it. When I close it I have it set to shut all its crap off unless I have something downloading. I also set it to use 1 specific folder which is just used to download stuff into. I guess it gets down to people need to learn any apps they use n how to insure it only does what they want it too oh yea I dont let any p2p to scan my pc for chyt to share And far as holes and vulnerabilities windows has plenty of those by itself

Oh and thats another thing I like about spybot, I run its teatimer (weird name) that monitors the registry, so anything that attempts to make changes I get alerted n have to approve or deny it. Believe Windows Defender can do this as well, as can Adaware but its more of a PITA than spybot. And for Mr. Govt IT guy every scanner has false positives. And the only true way to completely secure a computer from online threats is to unplug the net work cable
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Try running Spyware Doctor and Registry Mechanic. They're made by the same company. Spyware Doctor is great for blocking nasty stuff.
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nortons sux.

but I bet you limewire dones do chyt on my pc except what n when I use it. Yes it can if one is all click click n dont know wtf they are doing. And you should know this. Yes any anti-virus is better than no antivirus. Another thing is about a computer shop will clean a computer up for about $50. Symantec dont have a lock on that and their AV is a joke any kiddie with VB can get past it. And unless viri/bug what ever has embeded itself into the kernel (rare these days) or into the run.dll it can be cleaned off. It may be a PITA but it can be cleaned. Yes the restore CD's maybe the easiest way to fix said problem but there are ways to fix it. You should know all this. the govt teach you if it isnt the norm its bad??
yes, the government does teach, though most is taught on my own. However, I was tyring to give him a simple, normal person fix, not a techie fix.
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yes, the government does teach, though most is taught on my own. However, I was tyring to give him a simple, normal person fix, not a techie fix.
true that I try to give more options b4 86ing all thier info, tho alot of people dont really have anything of importance on the machine
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