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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-07-2004, 11:51 AM Thread Starter
 
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December 7, 1941

48 Civilians
109 Marines
233 Soldiers
1,998 Sailors

1,102 Sailors still rest in 50 feet of water, entombed on the ship they died on.

Take a minute today to appreciate the sacrifices made by our grandparents, and great-grandparents, so that we can enjoy the freedoms we have today.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-07-2004, 12:01 PM
 
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My Grandfather, retired military, he was there! Thank you!
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FDR's Day of Infamy speech:

Yesterday, December 7, 1941 - a date which will live in infamy - the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

The United States was at peace with that nation and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its Government and its Emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific. Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in Oahu, the Japanese Ambassador to the United States and his colleague delivered to the Secretary of State a formal reply to a recent American message. While this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or armed attack.

It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time the Japanese Government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian Islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. Very many American lives have been lost. In addition American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.

Yesterday the Japanese Government also launched an attack against Malaya. Last night Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong. Last night Japanese forces attacked Guam. Last night Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands. Last night the Japanese attacked Wake Island. This morning the Japanese attacked Midway Island.

Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.

Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces - with the unbounded determination of our people - we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God.

I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December seventh, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese Empire."
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My Grandfather, retired military, he was there! Thank you!
Does he ever talk about it?

One of mine was a combat engineer in Europe, and the other grandfather was a medic in WW I. Unfortunately I never got to meet either of them.

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He used to talk about it all the time, he had so many stories about WWII, Pearl Harbor, the patrols he used to go on, the ships, pretty much everything you could imagine during that time, he saw it. Unfortunately, he passed about about 7 years ago. Buried with honors !
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My grandfather served in the Marines during WWII as well. He took a picture of my grandmother with him and wrote the names of every place he was sent during the time. Unfortunately, I was only 12 when he died so I didn't get to talk to him about it much. I wish I could have heard stories from him. I have the flag that was draped over his casket, as well as his uniform, footlocker (trunk), a few foreign bills and an address book that he picked up from a dead Japanese soldier. I never found out if he had shot the soldier or not. I know it's not right for soldiers to keep "souveniers", but I know a lot of them did back in those days.
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True. . mine had a Luger, medals, etc. All of those things are gone. I have nothing from my grandfather who was in WW I except for an artillery shell with "1917" engraved on it.
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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-07-2004, 08:12 PM
 
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Reading this gets me into the mood to watch Pearl Harbor on DVD.

What a lesson well learned that day, in so many ways..
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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-07-2004, 11:17 PM
 
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Thank you Pigface, for the grave reminder of what this day means. In all honesty, I completely forgot the importance of today. What with everything going on in the world and our own personal lives, unfortunately, I'm sure I wasn't the only one. But it's important that we do remember. We can't ever forget what sacrifices have been made for our freedom. So I thank you again.

Both of my grandfathers served in WWII, one Navy, one Army. The one that was in the Army passed away twenty years ago , so I never got to speak to him about it , but I do have a pair of Japanese slippers that he brought back with him. They were a woman's, but they could probably fit my two-year-old's feet.

My other grandfather, the one that was in the Navy, is still living, but there's an estangement there since my parent's divorce, so I never will get to ask him.

I don't know if there are any military on here, veteran's or active, but if there are, thank you for your sacrifices. And to all the soldiers who sacrificed all, R.I.P and God bless you all.
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I agree.. too many people take too many things for granted here. I've only been to the USS Arizona, etc, once, but I want to go again.
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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-08-2004, 10:22 AM
 
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My grandpa served in the army. He told me lots of stories. I love and charish everyone of them. He told me about the gun on his truck that could cut trees in half And how he use to trade his gas stamps for beer. I miss hearing his stories
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My grandpa served in the army. He told me lots of stories. I love and charish everyone of them. He told me about the gun on his truck that could cut trees in half And how he use to trade his gas stamps for beer. I miss hearing his stories
Yeah mine was too and I dearly miss his stories as well. How priceless is it to be an 8 year old wide eyed kid listening to grandpa about WWII while he imbibed mass quantities of brandy and said not to tell grandma, like she wouldn't figure it out by his slurring and staggering? lol.. He was a bad mfr. I wish I had wrote down all his stories - they were awesome.

Major props to all those who have and are currently serving.
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