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Crash into Motorcyclist-Misdemeanor

Here's a story in the Rocky Mountain News where a car crashed into a motorcyclist stopped at a light: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...702232,00.html. The driver hit and run. The motorcyclist was seriously injured with a broken back. They found the driver's license plate at the scene, and she finally turned herself in.

Can you imagine that young, woman rider left alone on the highway? The SOB driver was charged with careless driving, a misdemeanor, for hitting the motorcyclist. But she was charged with leaving the scene of an accident involving serious bodily injury, a felony. Shouldn't hitting and seriously injuring the motorcyclist be a felony? I'm going to write a letter to the editor.
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As sad as it is its the risk we take riding bikes.
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Friend of mine got rear ended today.
Riding a 04 YZF600, waiting to make a left turn to go into his place of work, a woman in a Sante Fe rearends him, sending him flying about 20 ft.
He has a broken wrist, banged up knee, and many cuts and bruises. Thankfully he was wearing his helmet, as that is severly scraped up on one side.
The bike I'm sure will be totaled. Left side fairings busted up, stator cover scratched, mirror broke off, rearsets bent, subframe bent, back plastic broken up, rear wheel bent, exhaust bent.
There may be more damage, but that's what I saw with a quick once over.

The woman admitted right away to the cops that she just wasn't paying attention, and it was all her fault. There were a few witnesses around that gave the same account, she never even slowed until impact.

We'll see what happens out of this... that b!tch should fry...

Luckily, my friend is at home resting... so he should be ok, just take some time to heal up.

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I think the driver of the car should have to pay the riders medical fees, and pay from her own pocket to replace the bike(assuming the rider can ever ride again.)
it should be a felony of the most serious degree to be careless behind the wheel of a car when it involves a motorcyclist.

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I think the driver of the car should have to pay the riders medical fees, and pay from her own pocket to replace the bike(assuming the rider can ever ride again.)
it should be a felony of the most serious degree to be careless behind the wheel of a car when it involves a motorcyclist.
damn she could have killed sv's friend then what oh i wasn't paying attention
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I think the driver of the car should have to pay the riders medical fees, and pay from her own pocket to replace the bike(assuming the rider can ever ride again.)
it should be a felony of the most serious degree to be careless behind the wheel of a car when it involves a motorcyclist.
Being a biker its hard not to agree here, but why is it really any different than if she hit a car? which she prolly would had if the rider took thier cage tat day. We bikers are over looked on the roads I agree. No I dontlike it, but I choose to ride a bike. If you think insurance rates are high now. Let car/bike accidents become felonies. Thru the roof, for not only the bike but the cars as well.

its a loose/loose situation.
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Being a biker its hard not to agree here, but why is it really any different than if she hit a car? which she prolly would had if the rider took thier cage tat day. We bikers are over looked on the roads I agree. No I dontlike it, but I choose to ride a bike. If you think insurance rates are high now. Let car/bike accidents become felonies. Thru the roof, for not only the bike but the cars as well.

its a loose/loose situation.
I disagree about if he had taken his car instead of his bike. If he had been in a car he probably wouldnt have been hit because people casually glance at the road occasionally when driving and are more likely to see a car in that moment than a bike. If hitting a motorcyclist because you 'just wernt paying attention' was a felony sure insurance would sky rocket for a lot of people but there would also be a lot of idiot drivers out there without a license. Which I guess is a double edged sword because they would probably still drive and you wouldn't get **** from there insurance companies if they hit you.
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This is why when I was stopped at a light, I always had my eyes on the mirrors & kept it in 1st gear ready to roll if I saw any cars coming on too fast on my six.

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I read your post wrong. It sounded like you were saying the motorcyclist was charged with a felony, for some reason. Glad I was wrong, but I do see your point.

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I will bet that the bitch was drunk and that's wh she left!!!!
Exactly. Not to jump to assumptions but the bitch looks like a meth head.
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Exactly. Not to jump to assumptions but the bitch looks like a meth head.


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did I miss read or did it say she left the scene of that accident?



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This is why when I was stopped at a light, I always had my eyes on the mirrors & kept it in 1st gear ready to roll if I saw any cars coming on too fast on my six.

CORRECT! I keep the bike in 1st gear with the clutch in and I will also either tap my foot brake or tap my hand brake if I am on a flat surface and don't need the brake to keep from rolling back or forward... my thoughts are keep that brake light flashing, it is more likeley to be seen that way.

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Being a biker its hard not to agree here, but why is it really any different than if she hit a car? which she prolly would had if the rider took thier cage tat day. We bikers are over looked on the roads I agree. No I dontlike it, but I choose to ride a bike. If you think insurance rates are high now. Let car/bike accidents become felonies. Thru the roof, for not only the bike but the cars as well.

its a loose/loose situation.
I agree with Playful on this this one. There are some instances that punnishments should be stiffer...

... like speeding in a construction zone (there are men just trying to earn a living working within inches of distracted drivers all rushing around)

...or if you are driving impaired or carelessly (drunk, high, or witnesses saw you driving a stick shift cage with a coffee in one hannd a cigarette in the other a phone propped between your ear and shoulder while knitting a sweater behind the wheel)

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I disagree about if he had taken his car instead of his bike. If he had been in a car he probably wouldnt have been hit because people casually glance at the road occasionally when driving and are more likely to see a car in that moment than a bike. If hitting a motorcyclist because you 'just wernt paying attention' was a felony sure insurance would sky rocket for a lot of people but there would also be a lot of idiot drivers out there without a license. Which I guess is a double edged sword because they would probably still drive and you wouldn't get **** from there insurance companies if they hit you.
I think that drivers need to do a one day course every couple of years when they renew their liscences... basic drivers safetey where the fundamentals of driving are refreshed and are shown how short a distance a bike can stop in vs. a car... I wish I could find that video but they took a motorcycle (cruiser) and a car (taurus) and had them travel the same speed (50mph) and had them side by side and once they crossed a line they were to brake hard to a stop and the video showed how much longer it took for the car to stop they they played the video's spliced together and you can see the car drive right through the biker....

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I will bet that the bitch was drunk and that's wh she left!!!!
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I think the driver of the car should have to pay the riders medical fees, and pay from her own pocket to replace the bike(assuming the rider can ever ride again.)
it should be a felony of the most serious degree to be careless behind the wheel of a car when it involves a motorcyclist.
That's why we pay insurance companies... Unfortunately we take that chance every time we fire up our bikes... If this were a "corvette forum" would you suggest stiffer legal penalties for rear ending a corvette??? I do however believe that the misdemenor charge for reckless driving should have more charges tacked on if the driver is found to be neglagent. or if there is sever bodily injury... but to call it a felony and put someone in jail due to an accident that would normally be a fender bender that is just magnified due to the fact that the one hit was a motorcycle rider is not correct in my mind..

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Here's a story in the Rocky Mountain News where a car crashed into a motorcyclist stopped at a light: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...702232,00.html. The driver hit and run. The motorcyclist was seriously injured with a broken back. They found the driver's license plate at the scene, and she finally turned herself in.

Can you imagine that young, woman rider left alone on the highway? The SOB driver was charged with careless driving, a misdemeanor, for hitting the motorcyclist. But she was charged with leaving the scene of an accident involving serious bodily injury, a felony. Shouldn't hitting and seriously injuring the motorcyclist be a felony? I'm going to write a letter to the editor.
I usually agree with most of your posts but I have to say that I am not with you on this one... The act of leaving an accident where there was bodily inury should definately be the felony... but an accident can happen to any of us.. as long as the driver was not impaired in any way they should not be charged with a felony....

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I usually agree with most of your posts but I have to say that I am not with you on this one... The act of leaving an accident where there was bodily inury should definately be the felony... but an accident can happen to any of us.. as long as the driver was not impaired in any way they should not be charged with a felony....
I thought the rider- who was injured- was charged with a felony for leaving the scene? And the a$$hole cager had a misdemeanor.

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A woman pulled out of a bowling alley in a PT Cruiser...didn't see him and BAM !!

The story did state that the biker was traveling at a high rate of speed though.

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Maybe NW should key in here... kinda sounds like there is some confusion..

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