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Fluckin' Camcorders...

So I'm lookin' at buying a camcorder... As I wait for my account to be activated on www.camcorderinfo.com so I can ask the experts, I figured I'd post up here...

I want something that has good picture quality, decent low-light, and a solid image stabilizer. Mic input is also a requirement. Flexible regarding format, though I lean towards Mini-DV...

I will be using it primarily to mount on the bike and record rides so DVD format is out (doesn't work well with the forces involved). With that in mind, if going Mini-DV, side or top load tape is required as I don't want to screw around unmounting the thing every time I have to change tapes. For longer trips however, the mDV format is less appealing as I will have to change tapes all the time...

On the other hand HDD format would be much, MUCH more convenient for shorter jaunts... I just worry about editing and storing enough data for longer weekend or even longer vacation type rides... Don't want to have to bring a laptop along... though if an external HDD is a possibility, that would be killer (can you even do that? go direct to an external HDD from the camera?)...

Like I said image stabilization and the mic input are huge, again I will be mostly recording rides. To further compound things, I'll want to record some of my bedroom exploits so low-light functionality also comes into place. Manual adjustments are not important as it will spend most of it's life solid-mounted.

The real kicker is... I don't want to spend a fortune on the thing... Sure, I could shell out a cook $1k and get something totally money that I will love forever, but I'd rather stick somewhere in the $500 range... Any camcorder aficionados out there?

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Ohh... and...

Software package is a plus too... I am a total noob to all of this so easy editing software is important and there are a few specific things I want it to do... like edit video to speed up and slow down sections, add text, clean up quality things, highlight stuff... yeah probably basic retard stuff, but I have no idea about really any of this...
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Sorry man no clue. I am hoping to get a digital camera for christmas this year.
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the windows movie maker is easy to use. I use it and the Nero stuff. If you mainly plain on using it on the bike, check out the dvr for that. I am not expert, but I think you can plug in a external HDD, but the more stuff you got hooked up, ya end up needing a tank bag to hold it all. There was a site, I think Trip posted it, that had all you needed to do bike vids. I think the low end was $300-400, and up near $800+ for the top end shyyt.
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iMovie is great for editing. Wait that's only for Mac. Sorry you are missing out Windows users.
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i bet there are some camcorders that let you go straight to HDD, i know that some digi cams do that.

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iMovie is great for editing. Wait that's only for Mac. Sorry you are missing out Windows users.
I have a Mac too but dont use it much
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I have a Mac too but dont use it much
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the windows movie maker is easy to use. I use it and the Nero stuff. If you mainly plain on using it on the bike, check out the dvr for that. I am not expert, but I think you can plug in a external HDD, but the more stuff you got hooked up, ya end up needing a tank bag to hold it all. There was a site, I think Trip posted it, that had all you needed to do bike vids. I think the low end was $300-400, and up near $800+ for the top end shyyt.
Yeah, that was the helmet cam site... Good stuff, but I want more versatility (ie. off the bike use)... I am not opposed to a tank bag either...

I was thinking that I wouldn't want to record directly to the external HDD, though that actually sounds pretty good... I was thinking more along the lines of using the external HDD to download everything from the camcorder at night in hotel rooms and whatnot...

I could see the direct record to HDD having issues with power consumption, but I was planning on hacking something together to have the bike power the cam as to alleviate battery life worries... That would just provide another 'mouth to feed', but I couldn't image much of a problem...
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The November, 2007 issue of Consumer Reports tested different types of camcorders.
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The November, 2007 issue of Consumer Reports tested different types of camcorders.
Hmm... I'll have to see if I can't find a copy around...
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Oh, i guess i will let you off this time. Mine is the 2GHz core 2 duo intel Macbook.

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i bet your bike could handle a small load from a camcorder charger

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i bet your bike could handle a small load from a camcorder charger
I figure as much, but if I would also be running an external HDD that complicates things... not in terms of too much power consumption... Just need to build another circuit... I guess I could go moron-easy and get a little inverter... That'd just be more crap to mount/carry...
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I figure as much, but if I would also be running an external HDD that complicates things... not in terms of too much power consumption... Just need to build another circuit... I guess I could go moron-easy and get a little inverter... That'd just be more crap to mount/carry...
Most likely the dvr will use sd cards, and they are gettin up in size too.
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I would just get one that uses removable media like sd/flash/memory sticks/whatever... they come in pretty big sizes these days like PG said.

Hell my tiny digicam can take videos and you can use 2 gig cards in it, enough for long vids.
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I would just get one that uses removable media like sd/flash/memory sticks/whatever... they come in pretty big sizes these days like PG said.

Hell my tiny digicam can take videos and you can use 2 gig cards in it, enough for long vids.
you can fit a 2hr avi on a 1GB card. Yea my digi does vid too but I'm not sure it would do good moving vids tho
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Most likely the dvr will use sd cards, and they are gettin up in size too.
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you can fit a 2hr avi on a 1GB card. Yea my digi does vid too but I'm not sure it would do good moving vids tho
I don't want anything that records just to flash cards... If I run at high quality, flash cards don't measure up... I am going to be wanting to record HOURS (like 8 or so) of video before transferring it to a PC (or external HDD)... Impossible to do, unless I want to spend a fortune in SD cards...

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Video files are very large, and the result is that archiving them in a digital format takes up a very large amount of space. One MiniDV tape at high quality would take two of the 2GB SD cards...
The main reason I lean heavily towards mDV is cost... HDD camcorders don't offer the same video quality at a competitive price point... The question really is, how much am I willing to spend/sacrafice for the convenience of the HDD?

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