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U.S. Soldier Faces Charges for Killing

An Army officer was arraigned Friday on charges of dereliction of duty and assault with intent to commit murder in the killing of a critically wounded Iraqi, a military spokesman said.

Capt. Rogelio Maynulet, whose fellow officers say he shot the man to end his suffering, did not enter a plea at the hearing in Wiesbaden, Germany. The charges carry a maximum combined sentence of 20 1/2 years, said Maj. Michael Indovina.

The 29-year-old from Chicago told The Associated Press that he's been overwhelmed with support, including a Web site petition that has more than 400 signatures.

"I probably can't say the same for family and friends, I feel bad that they have had to go through this all, but I'm doing fine," Maynulet said in a telephone interview following his arraignment. "The support I'm getting from other members of the military is incredible."

Maynulet's court-martial was set for Feb. 22-25.

The charges stem from a May 21 incident when Maynulet was leading his tank company on a patrol near the city of Kufa, south of Baghdad, where heavy fighting had been reported.

They encountered a sedan thought to be carrying a driver for al-Sadr and another militiaman loyal to the cleric, whose supporters rose up against U.S. forces twice this year.

U.S. soldiers chased the vehicle and fired at it, wounding both the driver and passenger.

When a medic pulled the driver out of the car, it was clear he had suffered critical injuries, with part of his skull blown away, according to testimony heard during Maynulet's Article 32 hearing _ the military's equivalent of a civilian grand jury investigation.

Maynulet's fellow officer, 1st Lt. Colin Cremin, testified that Maynulet told him he then shot the Iraqi in the base of the neck or the back of the head.

"It was something he didn't want to do, but it was the compassionate response," Cremin testified. "It was definitely the humane response."

The military has only referred to the driver as an "unidentified paramilitary member," but relatives named him as Karim Hassan, 36. The family does not dispute that he was working for al-Sadr.

Maynulet would not comment on the facts of the case, but his attorney, Capt. Will Helixon, said: "He maintains that his actions were justified."

Maynulet was initially charged with murder, which carries a mandatory life sentence, but Maj. Gen. Martin Dempsey referred the matter to court-martial on the lesser charges after reviewing the evidence presented at the Article 32 hearing.

Human rights groups have condemned the illegal killings of Iraqis _ either civilians or wounded fighters _ by the U.S. military, saying such acts amount to violations of international humanitarian rights and should be dealt with as war crimes.

On Dec. 10, Staff Sgt. Johnny M. Horne Jr., 30, of Winston-Salem, N.C., pleaded guilty and was sentenced to three years in prison for killing a severely wounded Iraqi teenager in what investigators say may have been a mercy killing.

He was sentenced to three years in prison. Horne was the first of four soldiers from Company C, 1st Battalion, 41st Infantry Regiment, based in Fort Riley, Kan., to face court-martial on charges of murdering Iraqis during fighting in Baghdad's impoverished Sadr City in August.
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-17-2004, 06:56 PM
 
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Dave, you should know better !!, what am I gonna do with you !
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I don't know. LOL
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Damn, does this ever have the potential of going either way...Wow !! But I stand by our troops, 100% !
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Well, the problem here is similar to that of Dr. Kevorkian. Should "mercy killing" be legal? It isn't in the US, as proven by the doc's imprisonment, so I doubt it will fly over there, either.
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Well, the problem here is similar to that of Dr. Kevorkian. Should "mercy killing" be legal? It isn't in the US, as proven by the doc's imprisonment, so I doubt it will fly over there, either.

True. One other solider got 3yrs in jail for doing that.
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Damn! All I can say is, I would not want to be those guys. Hard a$$ labor for the coming years.
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Well, the problem here is similar to that of Dr. Kevorkian. Should "mercy killing" be legal? It isn't in the US, as proven by the doc's imprisonment, so I doubt it will fly over there, either.
I personally believe mercy killing should be legal. If a person wants to die because of severe pain or illness, that is a personal choice. And I also stand behind our soldiers 100%, and if he felt that the Iraqi was in pain and could not survive injuries of that nature, or would suffer living, then hey, he was justified. End of story for me. Just my
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Anytime a family members dies, it is a tragic thing, especially someone in their 30's. However, this was an individual who has committed his life to kill as many Americans as he could, and has probably killed some of our troops. This is a war and I don't believe it is murder.
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I personally believe mercy killing should be legal. If a person wants to die because of severe pain or illness, that is a personal choice. And I also stand behind our soldiers 100%, and if he felt that the Iraqi was in pain and could not survive injuries of that nature, or would suffer living, then hey, he was justified. End of story for me. Just my





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I personally believe mercy killing should be legal. If a person wants to die because of severe pain or illness, that is a personal choice. And I also stand behind our soldiers 100%, and if he felt that the Iraqi was in pain and could not survive injuries of that nature, or would suffer living, then hey, he was justified. End of story for me. Just my
Oh, I never said that I don't agree with what he did, I was just stating that he'll most likely be imprisoned for it, whether we think it's right or wrong.
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This is a war and I don't believe it is murder.
I agree.
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It's war..its ugly, terrible, violent, and deadly!! Period!!! People are going to die, there's no doubt..if they wanna die, at their own personal choice, let it be so.
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Oh, I never said that I don't agree with what he did, I was just stating that he'll most likely be imprisoned for it, whether we think it's right or wrong.
I wasn't trying to change what you were saying or anything, I personally just think that if he does get imprisoned, it's bull****. The government sends them over there, why can't they back them up? We do. But us supporting them isn't as important as their gov't standing behind them. Don't get me wrong, the soldiers need our support as well, but we personally didn't send them, the gov't did, and since they did, they need to support our men more than ever; not train them to kill, send them to kill, then when they kill, we put them behind bars?!?!
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i wanna know who rats these guys out!! if there is a group of people watching them they should know better than to do it especially if guy are already going to jail for this!!! if i was critically injured and there was no chance of survival i would not want to suffer!!!!!
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