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Building my garage / workshop (56K death)

So I thought I would share what I've been spending around 1 day a week average working on since the summer: Building my own garage/workshop. I'll be adding to this thread as I make more progress.

My folks' office building has some parts of the basement that are separate due to the building having had a couple additions over its lifetime. One portion is about 15x18, and consists of a dirt floor, and very old plaster covering the walls and ceiling (the type of plaster with a mesh screen nailed up and the plaster attached to the screen). It's been full of a bunch of useless crap we have to shove in there about 7-8 years ago in a hurry (long story) and haven't done anything with since. Also, through a small wall there is another small portion separated from the main basement that is about 5x15 which also has a dirt floor and had crap in it as well.

Upon starting the project I decided it would be well worth it to break down the wall and connect the two sections into one workshop... the smaller room will end up with lots of shelving mounted to the walls. Due to the age of it all, I decided to frame new walls inside the room in most places, in order to be able to insulate easily, hang drywall, and mount light fixtures, outlets, etc. There are some walls in the smaller room up which I will just mount insulation and sheetrock directly, though.

Just getting all the stuff out and making all the dump runs, as well as ripping out all of the old plaster and insulation took me the first few months (only one day a week, roughly).
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So, here is what I started with:

Main room full of crap:




Here is part of the smaller room:


After I knocked down the wall between the two and cleared out the main room, here is a view looking from the main room into the smaller room:
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So, essentially, here is a schematic of the space I will be working with:


Here is the whole place stripped out,dirt floor, ready for concrete:




In this one you can see the main garage door as well as the smaller door in the small room.
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The concrete needed not only to be laid inside the building in the two rooms, but there are severe drainage issues right outside the building, so there is now also a concrete 'apron' that runs around the whole back of the building and up the side a little bit. This makes sure all the rain goes away from the building. I don't have pics of the outside right now, I'll add some later. Also, all of the walls that border the outside world, I sprayed using a paint sprayer with a heavy duty sealing primer called 'Kilz'... seals in moisture, etc. Also, I caulked any cracks or holes both on the inside and outside.
Here's some shots with the floor in, walls sealed,(I've also insulated the walls in the small room that I won't be building another wall inside of) ready to start getting some real work done:




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I framed walls on most of the remaining walls. There are a couple where I will use the existing frame. To attach the bottom 2x4 to the floors, I used one of those powder-actuated nailers that use little bullets and you hit them with a hammer. I've used them before, they work great, made by Remington. After that it's just standard pain in the ass wall framing.

Then, I ran all of my wires. Due to anticipated high amperage, I used 4 gauge wire (for this particular wire I used aluminum because copper is so damn expensive right now) and ran a line from the takeoff lugs on the building's main panel back to my garage, and mounted a subpanel. I also used an existing wire to connect a fan-forced heater and mounted it in the framing... nice and toasty in there now. I ran all the wires for three big fluorescent light fixtures with a 3 way switch in two places, 4 small spotlights (for above where I plan to build a workbench and where I plan to have my big roller tool chests) controlled by a switch near where the workbench will be, 9 normal outlets, and 1 line for a 220V wire for when I get a compressor, hopefully not too far in the future. This is all managed by a 15 amp breaker for all the lights, three 20 amp breakers for all the outlets, and a 40 amp breaker for the 220V line.

Here is some pictures with most of the walls done being framed and most of the wiring done.



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Today I got some bulbs and turned on the breaker for the fluorescent lights so I can stop working with those damn spot/work lights. I finished a couple other little wiring things and insulated the two walls that are up that border the outside. Here's some pics with the lights on.





I plan to run a couple speaker wire outlets and the accompanying wires on the back wall because I plan to bring in my stereo and speakers on shelves there. After a couple more little wiring and insulation things, it will be time to start the drywall for all the walls and the ceiling. Really starting to come together.
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Thanks. It's a lot of work, but I think it will be worth it when I'm done. I don't do things half-assed. It's gonna be a great little shop.
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I see why your CEO, thats some good work man!
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Damn brother. You really look like you know your $#!T. Nice job. Really looks good.



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Damn brother. You really look like you know your $#!T. Nice job. Really looks good.
can't wait to see the finished job
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wow I wish I had the skills to do that... nice work

if you're already wiring for speakers why not just get some built-into-the-wall speakers? that'd be tight...
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lookin' good so far.

wait, and ya had time to ride a bike this year too?
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Don't fool yourself, kid. No joe schmoe from the street is building that.



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permits? don't need no stinking permits...

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lookin' good so far.
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if you're already wiring for speakers why not just get some built-into-the-wall speakers? that'd be tight...
That would be nice... I can't afford more electronics though, especially since I already have a stereo system I never use though, so I'm just going to mount little shelves for the speakers, and a shelf for the components (tuner, cd player, equalizer, etc).
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Wow. That is so incorrect.

It takes the opposite of those things. It's ALL labor and time and hard work, with a sprinkling of knowledge and experience.

It doesn't take much money, just materials. It can't take much money, since I really don't have any right now
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I've done it- it's pretty easy.
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It takes the opposite of those things. It's ALL labor and time and hard work, with a sprinkling of knowledge and experience.

It doesn't take much money, just materials.
materials = money.

Labor is cheap- if you're doing it yourself, maybe having some buddies/family help. You need the space to do it, and the money for materials. If you have those, almost anything is possible.

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I've done it- it's pretty easy.
Most people have no idea how to do any of that stuff, that's all.
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materials = money.

Labor is cheap
50 2x4's, screws, etc.... less than 100 bucks.

Cutting them all to length, driving the base into the concrete, framing it all together, etc... to make all the walls.... several days of work.

It just costs much more in terms of work and time, compared to the cheap cost of materials. The only materials that are somewhat expensive is some wire, just because copper prices have gone through the roof. Even using aluminum core wire, the 4-3 line was about 50 bucks.

Labor just costs my time. Which isn't exactly infinitely available, unfortunately, otherwise I'd be done by now
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